#nonbinary people are not women lite
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Unsurprisingly this freak and her equally mentally deluded groomer friends see enbies as “man/woman” lite and don’t realize how gross and enbyphobic it is to put binary genders on non binary people or seeing them as “diet” genders
#antiship#antishipper#exposing radfems#enbyphobia#enbies are not women lite#non binary#nonbinary#nonbinary phobia#nonbinary people are valid#nonbinary people are not men lite#enbies are not men lite#nonbinary people are not women lite
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actually any kiss is gay if i’m involved. i don’t care who i’m kissing, it’s a gay experience and a gay kiss. because i said so. if the person i am kissing is straight, that’s cool, i don’t care. it may be a straight kiss for them, but it’s a gay kiss for me, and that’s what matters. if the person i’m kissing doesn’t like that, then they shouldn’t kiss me. simple as that.
#this is in response to the ppl who think amab and afab nonbinary ppl are men and women Lite#and that clearly it’s a Straight Kiss is we’re kissing someone of the ‘opposite’ gender#and by opposite gender i do mean the ‘opposite’ of whatever people perceive my gender as.#like baby if you new the kind of kisses i was having you’d go catatonic#i’ve kissed straight men and women and straight enby people and queer people and lesbian men and gay women#i’ve kissed boy girls and girlboys and trans people and people who didn’t use any labels at all#and it was always a gay kiss for me. a queer kiss perhaps.#and so far all the people i’ve kissed have agreed that yes it was a gay kiss for me#and i think it’s cool that i can gay kiss someone and have it be a straight kiss for them#that’s cool as fuck actually#the breadth of the human experience never fails to impress
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hey you guys do realize you can criticize nonbinary stereotypes without deadass misgendering and putting down afab nonbinary people right
#like i understand there is a huge problem in the way amab and intersex nonbinary people are treated#but you can talk about that ?? without calling afab people women or girl lite or female with they/them pronouns???#fett rambles#transphobia
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It's 'support trans lesbians' until they're not binary trans women. Until they're trans masc, trans men, or masc AMAB non-binary people.
It comes off as vaguely performative to be honest.
#barring the trans men who DO identify as lesbian does nothing to validate ALL trans people#ofc there are trans men who are straight#but that doesn't mean EVERY trans man who likes women is straight#AMAB nonbinary people owe femininity OR androgyny to nobody to be a valid lesbian. You either support all non-binary lesbians or none.#people seem to only 'support' non-binary people as long as they're AFAB. then they can be pushed into the 'woman lite' box#which is bs in itself.#trans lesbian#nonbinary lesbian#queer#nonbinary#amab nonbinary#afab nonbinary#transmasc lesbian#also reminder that transmasc doesn't immediately mean 'man'#and even if somebody is a man that doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed the labels they're comfortable with.#man lesbians are valid#regardless of HOW they're men
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I struggle a lot with accepting my sexuality because sometimes I feel like people would label me as straight because I'm AFAB and prefer sexual content that involves men.
But the thing is, I'm gender queer so no matter what gender I'm attracted to, it's not straight.
But also like... I like fictional content involving men primarily, but fiction is different from real life.
I have very little desire to pursue real life relationships, but I know from my limited experience that my real life attraction and relationship dynamics are very different from what I enjoy in fiction.
In real life, I do like women and other genders quite a lot. In real life, I also prefer to be the dominant one in sexual situations. Whereas in fiction, I prefer men and I like to be in the submissive point of view.
What I consume as fictional content does not dictate my real life sexuality.
I'm a nonbinary bisexual. I'm not cis. I'm not straight. And me preferring men in my erotica doesn't invalidate any of that.
#sorry just some rambles to help myself feel better#(also when i say 'women and other genders' i really do mean other genders)#(i'm not one of those people that view nonbinary people as 'women-lite')#(it's just that in fiction i prefer to read about men and not nonbinary people or women but in real life i'm cool with all genders)
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i onow its good if a book makes me mad, that means when i write about it ill have something to say. but i really do dislike the slow cooker of anger it puts me in where i just stew and stew until i can put words in order... this time its even more infuriating cause on a fundamental level i wont be able to write about it since my paper is about the translation and not the content! yelling screaming biting into wood etc
#mo talks#i just finished girl woman other and boy do i dislike the treatment of the one nonbinary character#you cannot convince me evaristo is saving the transphobic rethoric of the rest of her book by#pulling an educational PSA a la We should be happy and grateful things change#this is my opinion rn at least. changes possible?#currently im feeling very. youre writing about womens issues/histories and include a trans character but instead of it being a transwoman#its a nonbinary person who gets their gender and pronouns invalidated by the most important adult in their life and all this in front of#continued transphobia from other characters AND being one of the impliedeanings for Other in the book title#like way to go making nonbinary people women lite again im ready to scream#WHY COULD YOU NOT HAVE WRITTE A TRANS WOMAN EVARISTO?#is it because essentially your book stands on bioessentialist feet of inherent difference between men and women?#also the ending was whack af in my opinion but who am i to judge
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BOTH transphobes and allies (and even some trans people) react to trans people existing by doubling down on gender roles/standards and it's REALLY making me mad
#like saying yeah there are many genders but basically everyone still boils down to looking like a 'male' or a 'female'#or insisting nonbinary ppl are women-lite irt afab ppl and completely ignored irt amab ppl for the most part#implying alllll binary trans people pass or want to. implying they all suddenly have the features you expect them to have.#i can only imagine how hard it is for intersex ppl being constantly disregarded too#personal /#yes yes of course all binary trans ppl look exactly like cis people. and basically so do nonbinary ppl#EXACTLY like the transphobes who figure they could 'tell'#edit: i meant trans ppl have to look like cis ppl Or Else yknow. but to allies its like. they cant exist not looking like cis ppl at all.#they either expect to be able to see us as a 'failed' version of our assigned gender. or passing as cis.#when usually its neither
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hey a post about transmisogyny !! I sure hope the poster doesn't deliberately say trans and cis men can not be the victim of genital sexualization, sexual or verbal harrasment, fetishization or violence !
*reads*
oh :(
#guys you can talk about transmisogeny without saying trans men arent over sexualized#we are. acknowledging transmisogeny or any type of transphobia for that matter should never include denial of another trans person's -#experience with transphobia.#if at any point your argument goes into “well this doesnt happen to x group” stop#and think !#“does this not happen at all#or have i just never seen it?“#“have i done enough research on this topic to say without reasonable doubt that this does not happen to x group#and only happens to y group?“#“have i talked to members of x group about their experience with this issue to verify if its something that does or does not happen?”#if at any point your answers are lackluster#stop !#and do your research ! talk to people apart of these communities which you are saying do not suffer !#obviously this isnt saying transmisogeny isnt real#but if your only way to talk about transmisogeny is to put down other trans people and act like they do not experience any transphobia or#sexualization/fetishization of their bodies#then i hate to break it to you#but not only are you not an ally to trans women#you are not an ally to any trans person#divided we collapse. do not act like other trans people do not suffer.#also#because i forgot to add this on any of the other tags#stop acting like cis men cant be sexualized either#its extremely isolating and upsetting as a trans person to read post after post about how trans men dont suffer at all and nonbinary people#dont suffer enough and how trans men and nonbinary people arent sexualized at all#you forget the entire world sees us as ditzy confused girls that need fixing or amab nonbinary people as just boy lite#in conclusion#trans women can suffer at the same time and for similar reasons as trans men#and it will still be important#there is zero reason to say trans men do not suffer to annunciate an issue in transmisogyny
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just had a realization. and maybe im just not looking at the right things. but i dont think i can think of ANY mainstream media that has trans men as characters, or key characters. only trans women, and thats rare. i dont really know what to say on that right now but its. upsetting. very upsetting.
#calamarispeaks#urgh#something to do with the infantalization of trans men as just 'confused women whove been tricked' or whatever#just the complete sidelining of trans men and acting as if they dont exist#MAYBE a nonbinary character but lets be honest a LOT of people just see nb identity as women-lite even though it isnt#its. idk. its gross and upsetting#idk why i never thought abt this before#what the fuck#???
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Istg if I see another 'women and nonbinary people' in the name of a charity I'm going to walk into the ocean
#just say you hate men#just say you only see nonbinary people as afab/women lite#why has feminism gone backwards like. why are we acting like men don't suffer#this was an autism charity btw like what's that got to do with gender#kitty screams#personal#vent#ish?
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Hey howdy, not every nonbinary person who’s attracted to women is comfortable using terms like sapphic, butch, or femme. Just letting y’all know.
#I have a lot of baggage with being called those terms also#up until very recently I would force myself to present more stereotypical like a women and feminine#because I was only accepted in those queer spaces if I presented as women lite#not trying to make a call out post or anything just letting y’all know#because it keeps happening#just trying this whole communication thing#that people are always talking so positively about#my post#nonbinary#sapphic
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i hate these lgbt dating apps (note: im always on there "to browse" but never actually meet anyone or even talk to them despite matching w like dozens of people lol) cause ill check someones profile and their "into" section will say "nonbinary, trans men, cis women, cis men" like ummm. and why are trans women not on there. be so fucking real with me right now.
#97#😐😐😐 like.#i always swipe no on these people like.. ok and if you die about it then..#i get a lot of people who are into 'cis women trans women nonbinary'#which is v much giving 'i think nonbinary people are just women lite'#and ik they wont match w me so i also swipe left lol but like..#idk it at least feels more annoying and less like theyre probably a straight up bigot yknow
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thinking about maybe looking into enby meetup groups in the area but there’s like 2 and one is called “women femmes and thems” and I’m like 😬
just the name gives me the ick like no thank u
#nonbinary people 👏 are not 👏 women lite 👏#that’s something I’ve tried to express in my stories when I can#like Fel Scaven and maybe Blue tend towards the masc side#but it doesn’t make them any less enby#augh
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i just think it would be cool to see multigender people represented in discussions of gender politics more frequently, which is to say more than never.
the same goes for discussions of art, sexuality, the trans experience, the nonbinary experience more specifically, representation in media, so on & so forth. i just think it would be cool if the community didn’t treat us like a phase or non-entity.
#like y’all hate us. you either don’t talk about us or make fun of us or just outright treat us like the lite version of whatever gender you#find most convenient irregardless of fucking context.#i saw another post abt trans rep in art that i don’t want to derail#but then i was thinking abt that but multigender & realized we’re just… never there.#like even when nonbinary people are represented it’s those leaning genderless- which isn’t to say that group should have less that’s not#what i mean this isn’t an rep instead situation- it’s just very unbalanced.#& like it goes to the fact that due to internalized transphobia & cissexism y’all are very uncomfortable with men who are also women.#we’re never discussed in gender politics or in discussions regarding trans experience or sexuality etc like.#& it shows that we don’t even get the bare-minimum positivity art posts from our community.#i am once again thinking about the unbridled wildly undiscussed vitrol the lgbt community has for multigender individuals. gonna stop#before i get incomprehensibly angry actually. tldr do better for your multigender fellows you fuckers.#trans#transgender#lgbt#lgbt+#queer#genderqueer#nonbinary#multigender#bigender#polygender#neogender#xenogender#pride month
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Or they'll have people who INSIST you can't assume they're nonbinary they're just GNC cis men.
“ever notice how all nonbinary people are afab?” no but i have noticed how every single amab nonbinary person ive come across is either forcibly labeled as a trans woman or a cis guy who just Loudly Gay
#y e p#i think it probably ties in with the persistent belief that nonbinary = woman lite#AFAB nonbinary people can be humored because they're women a little to the left#but AMAB nonbinary people get denied existence and actively barred from their own communities over it :/
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I've been seeing a disturbing number of "queer safe spaces" describe themselves as things like "femme & them" and even worse "she+," conflating femininity & nonbinaryhood. cease this immediately. say it with me: nonbinary people are NOT women-lite and it is extremely violent and straight up incorrect to imply that all they/thems are fem adjacent. this is erasure and this verbiage does nothing but make gnc and nonbinary spaces unsafe for masc and male nonbinary people. nonbinary, genderqueer and other third gender people can be and are masculine and men, we can be hes as well as shes and theys, stop allowing yourself and your peers to view nonbinary as woman/femme-lite, signed a butch nonbinary person.
#nonbinary#trans#transgender#lgbtqia#lgbtq#lgbt#transmasc#transmasculine#trans man#ftm#enby#transfem#transfemme#transfeminine#trans woman#trans women#genderqueer#genderfluid#neutrois#bigender#multigender#maverique#gender non conforming#transneutral#transneu#gender neutral#agender#genderfuck#our writing
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