#niche discourse

[beemovieerotica]

please reblog this so it reaches members of my family who are the only people who can select "yes" on this poll

[yarnbinch]

Is Aegyoknits korean?

There's a knit patternmaker who I see is gaining a lot of popularity recently- Aegyoknits, whos patterns are titled after Korean words and their entire brand is very Korea (aegyo!) BUT to my knowledge they aren't Korean? Any information about why their brand is Korean is very vague.

They seem to be a Finnish woman in Finland and if that's true that is super appropriative and exploitative. I would love to be wrong, and if anyone else knows more about it let me know but this is a super egregious thing that I see nobody mention despite aegyoknits becoming popular.

Screenshots of their site and social media under the cut:

also that reposted image of a Korean person who made their green sweater is the ONLY Korean person on their instagram. The person in the grey argyle sweater is the creator of Aegyoknits.

[scummrevisited]

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[stolenkissesdiaz]

they do say when one ships falls another rises from the ashes…..

[elflikesfrogs]

the daredevil netflix fandom is kept alive by 3 things: foggy stans, charlie cox simps, and that blog that posts about the 1/6 scale model apartment

[carlyraejepsans]

Uh, context?

someone said people calling themselves bi lesbians are the reason lesbians get sexually harassed by straight men in bars and it was so painfully cruelly stupid and victim blaming that i saw red. and then i was like you know what fuck y'all, I'm not staying in this tar pit, because twitter had already been making me miserable for a while

can y'all stop showing me people gossiping about me behind my back. it's rude that they're doing it in public, but it's their business what they think of me & I don't want to see that either.

[sword-swallower-pin]

we're in such a strange era where men will just casually wax poetic for several paragraphs in mainstream media outlets about how john and paul were in love with each other but no one dares to explore the real questions (were they having gay sex? when were they having gay sex? what kind of gay sex were they having?) mate you're a journalist, do your job

[dwtdog]

really interesting phenomenon of people getting. mad? that dream is listening to their favorite artists anyways this is my favorite part

[francy-sketches]

no I dont think thats true

[apollos-boyfriend]

if i had to guess fundy is crossed off probably due to the “racism” drama of 2021/2022, which people never rlly seemed to get over despite it being unfathomably stupid <- being a fundy fan is a curse that never full leaves

SEE THE THING IS i also considered a bunch of stuff that fundy got in trouble over but i cannot fathom him being crossed out but not like. schlatt or michael or even h if that’s the case. the tweet’s tone very much has a “people that have been canceled SINCE then” because there is something very specific about crossing off connor but not schlatt

[scholliski]

there’s always some sort of discourse floating around about this topic but despite that I do thoroughly enjoy that the aftg fandom can be divided into their niche sub-fandoms, there are people who almost entirely stick to writing about, talking about and drawing the Ravens or the perfect court, those that lean towards the Trojans and make their content surrounding that, and even within the foxes there are those that focus on the upperclassmen, the upcoming freshmen, or the pre-canon seniors; I really think that it makes for a well rounded fandom experience where even the most niche topics and characters are explored and analysed in such depth and everyone eventually finds their own calling within the fandom

[misspoetree]

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[chimera-dolls]

Cos I saw someone 'defending' their misuse of the dollblr tag after receiving an ask about it because 'other people do it' - this is why it's a fucking problem in the first place. It is against TOS. It is unrelated to your post, it is spam, and don't be surprised if everything you post gets reported.

Just because other people spam the tag too, doesn't magically excempt it from TOS or user guidelines. Like at this point I am straight up breaking this down to bare bones website operation here, what's so hard to understand? It's shit like this that literally degrades website quality because as you spread your crap over multiple tags that are accumulating like a goddamn snowball, people stop actually using those tags for the topic they were meant for. People stop posting. People leave. Welcome to dead internet.

It doesn't matter if you see other people doing it, rules are rules. There is a reason WHY tag spam is against the rules and that's to keep a website useable. Actual Dollbr-bloggers? Keep reporting guys.

[butterflyinthewell]

A reminder:

Proship in fandom doesn’t mean liking all pairings or only liking really gross morally badwrong pairings. It means you don’t harass people for what they ship no matter how much you hate it.

It means you say “Ew” to yourself and block to avoid things you don’t want to see.

Someone ships a ship you think is disgusting? Fine! Block them! Now it’s gone. Buh-bye!

Yes, this applies to any pairings, don’t give me any “except for” or “unless it’s” crap. No excuses!

Proship has never meant condoning criminal acts or abuse irl.

If a proshipper sees a real life person in an abusive situation that matches to something they read or wrote in a fanfic, they won’t sit and think it’s sexy, they will be appalled and try to help the person escape.

The key here is proship means fiction is fiction and observing what someone engages with is not the only way to judge their moral character.

Because if that were true, why are fantis who engage with wholesome fandoms some of the most cruel, hateful people on the internet?

How come all their rage is towards sex and never looks twice at violence? They’re fine with violence until there’s sex involved, then all of a sudden it’s wrong. Fantis don’t speak on violence because they know they condone it and attacking it will rip apart all their baseless accusations and arguments.

Btw fanti arguments look identical to transphobic conservative arguments. Think about that. And I see so many of them do it with trans pride flags in their bios. 🙄

If a site gives you options to filter out content you don’t want to see and you won’t use them, and choose instead to harass people because you’re mad that your NOTP is everywhere, you’re nothing but a pathetic bully who brings nothing of value to fandom anywhere.

Btw, just an aside, I hate most of the same ships fantis hate and I don’t make that creators’ problems. I block and move on. I defend content I abhor in fiction because I know censorship will trash works by queer and marginalized people first.

Censorship is a steamroller, not scalpel.

Just look at what queerphobic conservatives are doing to queer content in schools and libraries. We don’t need that in fandom too. Get outta here with that.

[cat-in-a-mech-suit]

Separatism of any kind is shameful and will kill you.

[secretsofthewilde]

There's something particularly frustrating about how academic fandom studies tend to talk about fandom spaces as being a place for inclusiveness and queer representation when there's still a very prominent misogyny problem throughout them. Even when these studies address issues of racism within fandom shipping dynamics, they still tend to perpetuate the idea that fandom is the rare place where queer ships tend to be more popular than straight ones, without really addressing the fact that this tends to only true when it comes to cis, white, m/m ships. If you want some kind of numerical evidence of this, you just need to look at the statistics on ao3 to see that f/f ships are the least popular kind of pairing on that site. And when you think of the stereotypical big name fandoms, most of them are well known for their m/m ships, with the f/f ships often being dismissed or treated as a joke.

I'm not of the opinion, nor trying to make an argument in support of the idea, that this is due to the stereotype of fangirls fetishising queer men. Instead, I think it's largely due to misogyny* - shocker, I know. I really do think that the stereotypical fangirl gravitates towards slash pairings due to both internalised misogyny and the general prominence of male oriented media over female oriented media (which will therefore have more male characters that are fleshed out with more engaging writing as opposed to their female supporting cast).

However, it's one thing for the abundance of male driven stories to generate more fan works exploring said characters, and another entirely for those same fans to then ignore when we do have media that gives us well written and enjoyable female characters. I think it's in part due to our internalised misogyny that fangirls have a tendency to gravitate towards their familiar male orientated shows and then fixate on the same familiar character types, rather than exploring and celebrating the breadth of female-centric media we have finally been getting produced in recent years. And this inability to allow ourselves to enjoy female characters the same way we do with male ones is what leads to an abundance of slash pairings being celebrated in fandom spaces, while femslash ones struggle to get recognition**. The fact that there's a common joke in fandom spaces about popular pairings developing between two characters who never interacted (or for only a brief scene) is all very well and good fun, but this is almost always referring to a m/m pairing.

As fans we should really reflect on why we might celebrate a male character for doing morally grey things, but then hate a female character for exhibiting those exact same traits. It's fine to genuinely not enjoy the writing of a female character (especially when sexist writing is often to blame), but we should consider how much more willing we seem to be to forgive poor writing when it comes to male characters than we are with female characters. If we can make a million headcanons and claim to love a poorly written male character, who is now viewed as something so far removed from the canon of the media he appears in its practically a different character entirely, why do so many of us seem unwilling to do the same for female characters?

We should be doing the same with our female characters - we should be putting more female characters into our favourite dynamics and tropes. I want to see more enemies to lovers headcanons with femslash pairings; I want nbc hannibal levels of art and meta posts about toxic femslash couples; I want johnlock levels of delusion posts about a femslash couple the story writers are claiming they didn't write the subtext for. I would just really love to log into tumblr and see a femslash pairings tag is trending more than once in a blue moon.

*note: obviously misogny is not the only contributing factor, and this initial argument I'm raising doesn't address the issues surrounding racial, gender-queer identities, and other inequalities within fandom. Please do not think I'm ignoring or downplaying them.

**Theres also an argument to be made here about fangirls projecting themselves onto male characters in order to explore queer relationships, without having to challenge their own internalised misogyny/homophobia, but I'll come back to that later (and this in general) and expand on it some other time I think.