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My guide to understanding my alternative English orthography style
As suggested by the title, this post exists to explain why I do what I do, to teach what these various symbols and practices mean, and how/why I'm using them.
General Stuff
I'm not attempting to create a phonemic spelling alternative to standard English orthography. Some of my changes are purely cosmetic and I've kept many things the same as in standard English. For example, I've kept the "ou" in words like "thou" even though I think "au" would be better, as they do in German. This is because I think a total spelling conversion to a more phonemic style would take too much getting used to for the average reader, and I'm already asking for quite a lot as is. Some people might like it, but I'd like to make at least some attempt to meet people where they are, so I'd prefer not to make things even harder than they already are. Maybe someday I'll explore some more changes in that direction, but not yet.
I am not attempting a version of Anglish (A project that seeks to imagine what English might have looked like had the Norman Conquest not happened), though I am interested in Anglish, so I still use words of Latin and Greek origin, but much of what I do does take influence from much of the work done by Anglishers.
I would also like to clarify that this is very much simply a hobby of mine and I have no illusions of this being more important than it is. It's just for fun.
Old Letters
Æ/æ (Ash)
Ash is a letter used in Old English to represent the "a" sound found in words like "cat" (In General American English). It is also used in some older spellings of words of Latin or Greek origin. In the past I would use it liberally by simply replacing any instance of "a" whenever it made the "cat" sound, but now I generally only use it for words that derive from Old English words that used to use it or for words of Latin/Greek origin which used to be spelled with it.
Œ/œ (Ethel)
Ethel is a letter generally used in some words of French, Latin, or Greek origin. Though it is still used in French, it is only rarely used in Contemporary English. I cannot find any readily available histories about Ethel, but it does not appear to have been used too far back in the history of English. In my research, I've found that Ethel has been used in English with all sorts of words with many different kinds of pronunciations, so it would take a bit too long for me to go into detail about that, but generally when it appears in a word it is still recognizable, such as in "phœnix" (phoenix) or "œsophagus" (esophagus).
Ð/ð (Eth) and Þ/þ (Thorn)
Eth and Thorn are two letters used in Old English to represent a "th" sound. Historically, in Old English, they were used interchangeably with each other before Thorn eventually won out in popularity. There is a misconception that Thorn and Eth represent particular kinds of "th" sounds, but it appears that Thorn is generally preferred for initial instances of "th" while Eth is generally used elsewhere. There is also a misconception that in Modern Icelandic, Eth and Thorn supposedly take on unique sounds, but that isn't true for Icelandic either, but as I am not too well-versed on Icelandic, I will not go too much into detail there.
Ƿ/ƿ (Wynn)
Wynn is a letter used in Old English to represent a "w" sound. As some might know, the letter "w" didn't exist in the Latin alphabet until centuries after the collapse of the Western Roman Empire, so before the introduction of "w" in English, Wynn was used. Obviously, Wynn looks a lot like a "p" in many typesets, so most people don't like it for that reason, but a few don't mind it.
Ȝ/ȝ (Yogh)
Yogh was used in Middle English to represent a few sounds, such as "g," "gh," and "y". It evolved from the Insular G (Ᵹ/ᵹ) which was used in the scripts used in Ireland and England. The letter survived a bit longer in Scots than English. I don't use it very often because in most typescripts it resembles the number 3, so whenever I do, I typically restrict its use to replacing the "gh" found in words like "enough" and "night," so for me it's purely a cosmetic spelling change rather than a change that represents a particular sound.
Shakespearian Stuff
Thou and Thee
The difference between thou and thee is basically the same as he and him. It's always "I see thee" and never "I see thou." Likewise, it is always "Thou seest me" and never "Thee seest me."
Verbs paired with thou always take either the -st or -est endings. For example, for present tense "Thou makest a sword" and for past tense "Thou didst make a sword." Another example, for present tense "Thou hast a sword" and for past tense "Thou hadst a sword."
For the verb "to be", the conjugation for thou is "thou art" for present tense and "thou wert" for past tense.
The -eth ending
The -eth ending is for third person verbs. For example, "He runneth."
Thy and Thine
Thy and thine are used like "your" and "yours". If a word begins with a vowel then you can use thine, such as in "thine eyes." If it doesn't, then you can use thy, such as in "thy sword." If it's a situation where you'd use "yours", such as in "It is yours" then you would say "It is thine."
Runes
I use the Anglo-Saxon Futhorc runic alphabet rather than the Younger Futhark or the Elder Futhark because I think it makes more sense to use an alphabet that was designed with English in mind rather than Old Norse. I generally restrict the use of runes to proper nouns, such as names and titles. If you want to learn more about how to use runes for Modern English, I recommend this guide here. This isn't an authoritative guide by any means, so you can always feel free to make changes. Please keep in mind that runes are not a 1:1 replacement of the Latin alphabet, so please don't make the mistake of assuming that you can just replace each letter of the alphabet with a corresponding rune, because it doesn't always work that way. You can get away with this for many letters but not all. For example, there is a specific rune for the "ing" sound, so you would use that rather than using three runes to represent all three of those letters.
Roman Numerals
I use Roman Numerals whenever I have to use a number. There are many guides to Roman Numerals available on the internet already so I won't link any particular one.
Other Changes
Replacing C with K
I will generally do this whenever C is making the same type of sound as K. If a word has CK in it, I use two Ks. This is because most modern Germanic languages prefer K over C and my guess is that English probably would have followed the same trend had the Norman Conquest not happened, and also because I think K looks cooler than C.
Replacing S with Z
I do this whenever S is making the same type of sound as Z. Unlike English, Dutch and German do a bit more in their languages to make a distinction between these two sounds. Obviously the Z in German is used differently than in English and Dutch, but, still, German recognizes the differences between these two types of sounds and makes an effort to deal with that in their orthography. Another big reason for using Z is, of course, because I think Z looks cool and I think it deserves to be used more.
Writing "Of" as "Ov"
I do this because "of" has a "V" sound, not an "F" sound, and, most importantly, because it looks cooler.
Grave accent
The grave accent is rarely used in English, but occasionally used to indicate that a usually silent vowel is meant to be pronounced. For example, in the word "looked" you usually would not pronounce the "e", but if it is spelled with the grave accent, as in "lookèd", this indicates that the "e" is meant to be pronounced.
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Sans do you ever feel that something might be missing?
Maybe he felt like that at some point, maybe for a long time. In the present, I think he's made some kind of peace with it.
Also, I really like the ask blog format, but I don't really mean this to be an ask blog.
So when writing questions, try to refer them to me instead of the characters. That way, they don't have to break the fourth wall lmao. I really wanted to answer this one tho
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#forgettable-au#YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT TAKES ME THE MOST WHEN MAKING THSES THING#I CANNOT WRITE#Everythings so clear to me and then I have to write it and I get stuck#illustrating it all feels so much easier even when it takes more time#maybe it's just because english isn't my first lenguage#but I'm always checking my orthography and punctuations are correct alsjsdk#papyrus!gaster#papyrus#undertale au#sans#papyrus is gaster#alphys#undyne#toriel#undertale comic#undertale#I JUST REALIZED I FORGOT TO DRAW FLOWEY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO#my boy...#answered ask
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DPXDC CFAU Headcanon: Ghostspeak Edition
Ghosts in the Infinite Realms who saw Jason and Danny together called them "luzdra", a term in ghost speak that directly translates into the words "shared soul". It's literal definition is; "two ghosts with a bond so deep that it was as if they had split their souls in half and given one to the other", but in general it just means two ghosts with a profound, indescribable bond.
Luzdrus is the singular form of the word, and refers to only one ghost in the bond. While "luzdra" is plural and either refers to both of them together, or the relationship as a whole. It depends on the context of the conversation and who they're saying it to.
There is no romantic, platonic, or familial connotation behind the word. It just means "someone who shares a deep bond with someone" and can be between anyone.
It also does not mean soulmate, and if you say that you'll be corrected. Soulmates implies that their bond was destined by the universe, luzdra are two people who developed and built that bond themselves. It's a relationship forged between two (or more) people.
Some of Danny's rogues -- like Kitty and Johnny, who might've seen the two together and are possibly luzdra themselves -- still call him 'luzdrus' even after Jason's disappearance from the Zone. Danny doesn't know how to feel about it.
#dpxdc#dpxdc crossover#dp x dc#dp x dc crossover#dpxdc headcanon#dp headcanon#ghostspeak#danny fenton is not the ghost king#childhood friends au#cfau#vehemently refuse to call cfau danny and jason soulmates because in my eyes it weakens the magnitude of their bond lsajfh.#they were forged in blood not stars#i dont have a written conlang yet for ghostspeak but this may just be the start of it. especially now that i've figured out HOW i wanna#set up the way the orthography and phonology is structured. 'luzdras' is the word 'shared soul' spelt backwards with the spelling changed#to look different while still keeping some of the original backwards sound. so i've got one part of the conlang structure set up so far#'lous derahs' -> 'lousderahs' -> 'lusdrahs' -> 'luzdrus'#then my friend Navistar helped me come up with the singular and plural form when i asked her for help#ghost speak is funky and imo doesn't always have a written way to describe a word. it's based on vibes and vibes alone. any word thats able#to be made out is accompanied with other sounds that drown it out. like static or ringing or beeping or glitching. lots of sound effect
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yes that means every time you see me use é i actually held down the alt key and pressed 130. every ç is the result of alt+135. every ù (151) takes me at least three tries because i always do û (150) and ô (147) first. i do ê (136) instead of â (131) all the time. è (138) is my babygirl and i would never forget her. on the other hand sometimes i use i instead of ï (139) because who can remember that. i just try a bunch of random shit until i finally get an î (140) and then i'm like oh yeah 140, duh. also even though i almost never type in spanish i will remember ñ (164) until the day i die. and of course all the acute accents in the 160s (á í ó ú, no é for some reason but as mentioned i have secret french knowledge that unlocks alt+130). i only needed to know the danish accented letters for like two weeks but occasionally i can come out with a æ (145), ø (0248), or å (134), usually by accident. this is what i'm using long-term storage for. i don't even know how to switch keyboards.
#i asked a friend of mine who lived in france how she types french accents and she was like obviously i switch keyboards....#i thought we were about to bond over how many alt codes we have memorized. but she didn't even know what i was talking about#if i ever learn the alt codes for the capital letters. watch out world.#french#diacritics#orthography#typography#my posts#f
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Salt! Gift of the gods! Pure as silver, it puts the fine in finance! The Valyrian word for "salt" is lopon, but it's likely to show up as lopor, in the collective. Enjoy this gift of salt! Let us take some time today to celebrate salt and all it has done for our dried meats and caramels!
#SALT#valyrian#saltiness#high valyrian#sea salt#hbo#himalayan pink salt#conlang#salted venison#orthography#yes even you salted licorice!#hotd#come one come all and experience the glory of salt#house of the dragon#fall in love with the chemical that inspired my chemical romance#game of thrones#SALT SALT SALT
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Trying to distract myself from US election results by working on my crafting. I’m planning another bind of Daemon’s Handbook, so I’m practicing spraying edges and stenciling High Valyrian glyphs on a test book.
The glyphs, if I translated correctly, should say “Daemon Targaryen’s Book of Help to Manage Daughters of Marriage.”
If any fellow HV nerds see a translation mistake, please tell me so I can fix it before I repeat on the real thing!
#my writing#daemon’s handbook#high valyrian#high Valyrian glyphs#orthography#bookbinding#fanbinding#hotd#house of the dragon
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qétoiles n qbagz’ convo about his code arm + fun banter from last sunday :] english subs + transcript below da cut
[Video transcript:
Etoiles: But yesterday when he [Forever] talked to me, he was so frightened, basically he was like, ‘But one day won’t you lose your shit and want to kill the Eggs with the Code, and everything?’ Though I was telling him, ‘But the fact is, I know the Code very well’—
Baghera: Oh, so you told him you joined—?
Etoiles: No, no, no, not at all. It’s just that he has these assumptions that I’m really allied to the Code because—
Baghera: I think it’s due to your Code tattoo, also, it gives off the impression you’re in the process of transforming into a Code, Etoiles, let’s not lie.
Etoiles: That’s it, that’s it. But, basically I told him that I’ve had it since—
Baghera: But you don’t give a shit? You’re taking it well?
Etoiles: Well, yeah, I don’t give a shit because I know he’ll never beat me. Basically I—
Baghera: But you don’t give a shit about the code literally popping up over your body?
Etoiles: Well, yeah, because it’s a part of me now. It’s normal.
Baghera: How?
Etoiles: Well, after— after fighting someone 17 times, you start— you start creating links. But those links—
Baghera: But— you know that’s not how things work. Like— look, we cross paths. Right now we’re crossing paths. You see? We’re crossing paths. I kick your ass. Like, for free. You see? I see you, I’m like, ‘Bro, I don’t like his face,’ so I kick your ass.
Etoiles: But no! Because if you tell me ‘Good fight’ at the end—
Baghera: I see you again— wait, I’m not finished. I see you again like 12 times, and I tell myself, ‘Hey, I’ll do it again,’ I kick your ass again. After a while, Rayou, I won’t get diabetes!
Etoiles: Well, maybe you will, huh.
Baghera: Yes, but it’s not— it doesn’t work, like— there’s no correlation, you see!
Etoiles: You know you won’t have those cells anymore, you know, it’s possible.
Baghera: But— no— what I mean is— Etoiles! That’s now how it works! It’s worrisome! It’s normal for us to worry!
Etoiles: Well, yeah, but, uhhh. Basically, you’re all used to talking with me on the island. And you understand very well that there’s nothing able to corrupt me.
Baghera: That we don’t know, Etoiles! Because— if it’s— I know that your morality, and your enormous brain, and your big body, won’t get corrupted. But if there’s suddenly— well, what I mean is that we don’t know what all the possible systems of manipulation on the island are.
Etoiles: It’s true. No, it’s true. But for the moment I’m doing well.
Baghera: Yeah, well, so much the better. But—
Etoiles: For the moment I’m doing well!
Baghera: If you feel any change, Etoiles, mention it, okay?
Etoiles: Oh, I’ll talk about it. But for the time being I’m doing very well.
Baghera: So I can understand peoples’ fear upon seeing you LITERALLY transform into a Code and who tell themselves, ‘Oh, strange, maybe there’s a thing with the Codes.’
Etoiles: It’s true but who can better know the dangers of the Code than someone who’s confronted it his whole life? Instead of someone who—
Baghera: I’m well aware.
Etoiles: No but it’s— it’s— it’s for that reason that I told Forever. I totally understand the fear and everything, it’s normal. You see a dude turning into a Code, you ask yourself, ‘What’s the guy who sent him doing?’
Baghera: Well, yeah, there you go.
Etoiles: Like, ‘Who sent him?’
Baghera: But you don’t feel any different? Nothing?
Etoiles: Absolutely not, no. Everything is going well. I still hate the Code whenever I see him, I still want to kick his ass. Everything’s fine. Even if right now I want him—
Baghera: But you join up with them when he suggests it, yeah. Well, it’s to get the shield back.
Etoiles: It was just for the shield, believe me. Believe me, if I run into them again- if I run into them again and they don’t offer me things to save the Eggs and everything, it’s goodbye. And considering what I’ve prepared— considering what I’ve prepared, I objectively think that 5 Codes won’t be enough to kill me. There’ll need to be 10 of them.
Baghera: They might bring 10, huh.
Etoiles: Yeah, well, then again, we have time.
Baghera: Well, in any case, they don’t want to kill you anymore since you’re working with them.
Etoiles: Well, in fact, we’re not really— actually— I don’t really know what he’s thinking. Because the last time we talked I told them, ‘But if you lay even a finger on the Eggs, I’ll kick your fucking asses, you sacks of shit.’ And they left, and they didn’t answer me.
Baghera: Then again, they’re a bit cryptic, the Codes, you know.
Etoiles: Yeah, but normally they— I managed to talk with them a bit, so— so I don’t know. Personally, I’m telling you—
Baghera: Okay, no, what I mean is that I understand why when people see you they think, ‘Maybe it’s possible he’s getting a little bit corrupted by the Codes.’
Etoiles: No but yeah, yeah, I totally get it. But honestly, never. Never in a million years.
Baghera: I believe you! I trust you. But if there’s— if once you feel any difference or something of the sort, you mention it, okay? To whomever you want, but you mention it.
Etoiles: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah (10000x)
Baghera: You know you’re not very reassuring when you say that, as an answer.
Etoiles: That’s true. But I’m telling you there’s no problem. And— actually. The moment I start feeling strange, I’ll put numbers. And so you’ll have to come get me.
Baghera: Okay, okay. I’ll remember that.
Etoiles: Just that. But I— I— yeah. I whisper in the Code’s ear.
Baghera: The day you start talking to me in binary, there’ll be an issue, basically.
Etoiles: The day I say, ‘10001’, that’s it. But actually, I’m telling you, I could never be corrupted because I have AVAST, my wool block which blocks viruses.
Baghera: That’s real, that’s real.
end video transcript.]
#qsmp#etoiles#baghera jones#étoiles#jay clips#jay rambles#8/10/2023#please reblog this it took so long .#my fault for thinking transcribing and subtitling a 4min clip was a smart idea tho tbf#lmk if there’s any like . orthography errors in the transcript or whatevs i’ll correct em#i clipped this from étoiles pov but bagz’ pov was so fucking good too#the absolute side eye she gave him as he said the code ‘was a part of him now’ 😭 love the energy#these clips r just gonna serve as her I TOLD YOU SO evidence if smth happens#^ see idk if he’s actually gonna get corrupted (cubito’s chad enough to stave it off let’s be fr)#but i think it’s more of a question of whether the admins (and étoiles) will be able to resist the call of dramatic irony#bc it would be so good LMAO#anw shoutout to the part where he says ‘j’ai envie de lui [le Code]—‘ (I want him [the Code]—‘)#im well aware he just cut himself off before finishing his sentence but ty for furthering the codetoiles agenda king i appreciate it#saying ‘en ce moment j’ai un peu plus envie de lui’ about the Code is CRAZY kabdisdbsidjs
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#tirtouga#this is another one of those fucking pokémon where my brain says yeah that's? definitely not an english word. please use a different#language's orthography to pronounce this one‚ if you wouldn't mind?#yeah this is fucking [tiʁ.tu.'gaː] i guess. that's them.
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The tragic lovers are back :D
I have a lot of lore for them, specially for Wolfwood uwu
#trigun#vash the stampede#my art#trigun maximum#fanart#nicholas d. wolfwood#trigun stampede#vashwood#trigun fantasy au#Vashwood my beloved#I wish so much that my orthography didnt give me cringe#it is alredy bad in spanish. now imagine how it is in english#two of Vash's poses are based on ballerina and gymnast poses bc I think they suit him#fixed my error#now he has his metallic hair strands uwu
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once again im asking if we can abolish the "dg" sound. i hate it. its useless. get real. ur just an evil j sound and i hate u.
#some shit#banging my head against the wall#the strugglerrrrrrrrr#if i have any common evil phenoms i still cant pronounce well. no one points it out anymore. BUT I HATE THAT BITCH.#this time for real were gonna fix english orthography okay. this time.
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I don't want a modern lesbian carabiner I want Chatelaine Keys. My brain went "what are Victorian housekeeper belt keys called" girl it's chatelaine it is the same word as the proprietress slash hostess of the stately home, you're not THAT far gone to fairyland, yeesh
#Yesterday exclaimed 'I'm so STUPID' then went on a tangent about orthography re: Dr Seuss and Süss#And my coworker was like#You always say you're stupid then launch into an explanation of something I am not familiar with at all lmao#I expect everything I know to be common knowledge and#Everyone to know way more than I do about everything
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kids these days dont know what it was like to put 2 spaces after a period.
#my posts#ok to rb#i was just thinking about this bclike. huh. orthography i was taught and then had to stop doing#i stopped doing it somewhere around 12-14 years ago...?
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bicom ongofrnibl. ġūs old inglisċ orþagrafi
#i'm sure you can hear my american accent in this#r can be a vowel if you trust in your heart#also yes i used orthography rather than spelling to get that sweet sweet thorn in there
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I was gonna try to go to sleep early tonight but I'm up writing cardassian meta instead. goddammit
#I just have to get the ideas out of my head... just a few more paragraphs abt the history of cardassian orthography and then I'll go to bed#narcissus's echoes
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there's nothing that makes me realize how ridiculous homegrown pronunciation guides are like watching other people from oregon try to tell people not from oregon how to pronounce "oregon". there is a bumper sticker you see here that instructs people to say "ORYGUN", and i, as a person who knows what the desired end result is, have no idea how you're supposed to get there from "orygun". what is that y doing there? the sound it is representing is a SCHWA. on what planet is a y the most logical option for that sound??
a REAL pronunciation guide for this word would be more like "it's like saying the phrase 'or a gun', except you stress the word 'or' and you don't stress the word 'gun' at all. actually it's more like saying the phrase 'or again', with stress on the 'or'. but only if you also pronounce those words the way i pronounce them. obviously. otherwise you're shit out of luck." but that doesn't fit on a bumper sticker now does it.
#also brought to you by all the pronunciation polls on here where none of the options make ANY sense#there's two things you have to understand: 1) english orthography makes no sense. with vowels in particular#so whatever vowel you're including in your phonetic spelling of a word is probably going to be ambiguous#2) people have different accents than you! this means people pronounce the same word in a different way than you do!!!#you might pronounce a vowel in a way another person can't and vice versa!#but the thing about ORYGUN in particular is that the people who think that's a good way to explain how to pronounce oregon#speak THE SAME DIALECT AS ME. we have the same accent! and yet i have no idea what they're going for!#fun with pronunciation#oregon#my posts
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#he says that cus Sarul is a minority language in Palaset#it's a dialect so the vocab; accent; and orthography are dif#hence the digraphs instead of diacritics#technically Sarul shouldn't be in Verlaki at all because its just a personal Germanic language but maybe it got isekaid idk#also don't judge the art I drew it with my mouse#conlang#constructed language#worldbuilding#oc#original character#worldzard#<- tag for my worldbuilding#OH more context#Verlaki is the world and Nihwali are like teiflings#thank you for your time#my posts#my art#my animations#yes norse mythology got isekaid too#this is basically d&d deal with it
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