#most scandalous thing ive posted on here

[liliumaa]

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[raven-at-the-writing-desk]

Hey Raven, is there any info about Merfolk/Coral Sea performances? Such as concerts, theatre, anything like that.

Personally i only saw Floyd mentioning that "underwater concerts are boring" in his lesson chats, i think? But i am really new to twst and i do not know a lot of things sadly😭

But considering that Little Mermaid is a musical, and in the film they actually did sang a song with Ariel's sisters for a bday or something, i feel like there might be more information that i just never saw(Which is fully possible because i am really bad at doing research😭).

I am searching Coral sea info for my Octavinelle Oc, who is a Shark merman who is obsessed with performances, but i didn't saw a lot of info about specifically this part, so im asking it. :3

Also in case there is any information about Sharks in Twst i would ABSOLUTELY gobble it up, but considering we never saw(or at least i think we never did) a Shark merfolk(or any shark tbh), i am really not sure if there is a lot of Shark info to even search for. Floyd did said in his lesson chat that Sharks exist, i guess, and that "you should hope they see you as a friend and not food" but i am pretty sure it won't get any further than that😭

I apologize if you do have a post about it already, i just didn't saw it, and i think not a lot of people are interested in knowing that part of Coral Sea, but in case there is, sorry🥺

P.S. Your posts are amazing and they helped me A TON when creating my OC, especially the Coral sea theories and info, SO HELPFUL!!! GIANT THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE!!!! :333

Here's what I was able to find regarding concerts, music, composers, and other related performances in the Coral Sea or for merfolk:

In Lost in the Book with Nightmare Before Christmas, Azul indicates that, in the Coral Sea, music is considered very important in creating an atmosphere.

Merfolk sing songs and create music together for a variety of reasons: to celebrate holidays, to express their love to their significant others, or to simply just enjoy the ocean.

Music is such a huge aspect of merpeople culture that even the flippant Floyd says that he feels like he has to put in at least a little effort for it.

Perhaps music's importance to merpeople is why Azul suggests gifting a song to Noble Bell College in Malleus's Masquerade Dress vignettes--although the reason Azul cites in the vignettes is because a song is very cost effective.

It seems that there is an assumption by humans that all merpeople are great singers, but a museum guard in book 3 says it's an "urban legend" and that tone-deaf merpeople exist.

Floyd isn't a big fan of the concerts held back home, stating that all the songs sounded the same.

Floyd explored with many brass instruments to pass the time, and is now able to play any of them with ease.

Floyd has also played the drums in the middle school band he used to have with Jade (on contrabass) and Azul (on piano).

Jade has also played the flute when visiting Harveston, though he is not very skilled at it.

In Rook's Halloween Dress vignettes, we learn about Granchio IV, who is described as having "bright red claws". (This is probably twisted!Sebastian, seeing as we see the original animated Sebastian in paintings in some Platinum Jackets yet he is not acknowledged or identified as Granchio IV by the NRC students.)

This composer lived ~3 centuries ago and was the Coral Sea's finest court musician. However, he lost his position due to a scandal at a concert. (This is most likely referring to when Sebastian got in trouble for Ariel not showing up for a concert to perform with her sisters.)

Granchio IV was soon hired as the first foreign conductor for the Shaftlands Philharmonic Orchestra.

His "Undersea Hymn" is still very famous, even in modern day Twisted Wonderland. Rook states that classical music such as this is his favorite, and that he has worn out his concert CD from having listened to Undersea Hymn so many times.

Twst hasn't spoken of shark merpeople in detail. Floyd mentions sharks in a Chat (in the context of sunken ships being shark lairs)... He does frequently mention sunken ships at other points (Halloween Dress vignette, Birthday Boy vignettes, Jade's book 7 dream, etc.) but doesn't bring up the sharks again in this context. The only other time I can recall sharks being mentioned in Jade's Platinum Jacket vignettes; he says that a group of sharks failed to keep their promise, and so he had to punish them.

You honestly don't need to count on canon to give you lore on something so specific to work with though (be it shark stuff or music stuff). An OC is your own creation and meant to be played with for fun, so just go wild and do whatever you think best suits the character! You can also just headcanon whatever you want, there's no shame in that.

I hope that helps ^^ Thank you for enjoying my stuff and appreciating my efforts, and happy creating!

[bluwavez]

GUILTY is the first FULL ALBUM by NOAH SON, released unannounced on March 12th, 2025, by OFFBEAT RECORDS, the indie sublabel of Mydol Labels. The album has a 12-track track list, all written, produced, and composed by Noah himself.

The album, originally slated for a 2019 release, was shelved by Mydol Entertainment due to a scandal involving Noah and his manager, Lee Hyerim. Despite teasers, promotional gigs, a reality show, and a sampler being posted, Guilty would never be released, becoming the most infamous piece of Mydol's lost media.

Until today.

Released with no promotion and no fanfare a day before "SMACK" Noah's solo debut single was supposed to drop, the internet caught aflame once the album was discovered by sirens who had been waiting years for this album.

Upon its initial slated release, the album only had six songs. The additional six songs were added to the track list while two songs from the original track list, iBLOOM and THE RIZZ, were seemingly removed.

TRACK I. GUILTY is the title track of the album. The track, with the accompanying video that was filmed nearly six years ago. The lyrics and music video showcase a toxic relationship between an older woman and a younger man. The sensual choreography, in juxtaposition to the uncomfortable lyrics, gives the audience an uncomfortable yet captivating listening and viewing experience. Guilty explores the toxic, destructive side of love where power, manipulation, and emotional entanglement blur the lines between passion and harm. The song portrays a relationship where one person knowingly deceives, manipulates, and controls the other, all while acknowledging their own guilt. 

TRACK II. CROOKED is one of GUILTY's most iconic and sought-after tracks. It blends punk rock and hip-hop elements with an emotional, rebellious energy. Fans have been trying to leak the song since 2019 but have often come up empty. At its core, "Crooked" is about heartbreak, loneliness, and self-destruction. The lyrics express the emotions of someone who feels abandoned and lost, choosing to lash out and act recklessly rather than confront their pain. It captures the feeling of masking sadness with wild, chaotic behavior, partying, acting out, and pretending not to care when, in reality, they’re deeply hurting.

TRACK III. DROWNING was not on the original track list but was recorded in 2020. The song explores being consumed by someone through love, lust, or obsession. Its lyrics reflect the feeling of losing control and the metaphor of water symbolizes emotional, physical, and mental overwhelm. The song balances pleasure and danger, portraying the intoxicating yet suffocating nature of such deep connections, creating an intense and hypnotic experience.

TRACK IV. EYES, NOSE, LIPS is another track from the original album that fans have been trying to leak for years but to no avail. "Eyes, Nose, Lips" is a gut-wrenching breakup song about regret, longing, and lingering love for someone who is no longer there. Noah reminisces about a past lover, remembering every detail of her eyes, nose, and lips because he can’t let go. The lyrics are filled with regret and self-blame, as he admits he couldn’t hold onto the person he loved. He doesn’t just miss them; he worships their memory, almost as if they were the most beautiful and irreplaceable thing in his life.

TRACK V. KEYCODE is a song about a private, intimate moment between two lovers. Noah invites his partner to escape the noise of the city and join him on UN Village Hill, a real upscale neighborhood in Seoul known for its luxurious, secluded vibe. The lyrics create a sense of exclusivity and indulgence, making it feel like a private getaway. It’s romantic, a little seductive, and effortlessly cool. Though this track is specific, it has left fans speculating who Noah is referencing and if there's someone special in his life, as it was not originally on the GUILTY tracklist in 2019.

TRACK VI. SHE LOVES ME, SHE LOVES ME NOT was one of the original tracks on the Guilty album from 2019 and was successfully leaked in 2023. The song is about the emotional push and pull of an uncertain relationship. The lyrics explore the agony of mixed signals. One moment, she seems to love him; the next, she feels distant. He’s trapped in an endless cycle of doubt, longing, and obsession, trying to decide whether her feelings are real or fleeting. The song’s childlike title contrasts with its intense, mature emotional turmoil, making it even more heartbreaking.

TRACK VII. TEARS! is a new addition to the GUILTY tracklist, featuring a heavier sound. The prominent lyric, “I feel better when I let myself sink deeper, deeper / I feel better when I let myself see clearer, clearer,” reflects how society makes individuals feel inadequate, prompting them to create barriers for protection. The song opens with a solitary noise before the guitar kicks in, drawing listeners into the emotional depth of the lyrics. It ends abruptly, illustrating the struggle of getting stuck in a loop and the liberation that comes from breaking free.

TRACK VIII. HATE/LOVE is about the complicated relationship with the city he calls home. He explores the contrast between feeling connected and alienated at the same time, much like his personal journey with fame, identity, and growth. The lyrics describe the beauty and loneliness of Seoul, highlighting how it’s both a place of warmth and cold indifference. He talks about how living in the city has shaped him, but at times, he also feels drained and lost in its endless pace. HATE/LOVE is a new track and quickly became a fan favorite for the introspective lyricism and how it showcased Noah's diversity when it came to rapping.

TRACK IX. ILLA ILLA is about hitting rock bottom and finding the strength to move forward. Noah uses the imagery of the sea to represent his pain, isolation, and eventual healing. He describes himself as drowning in sorrow, with waves pulling him under. The phrase "illa illa" is a melodic, almost childlike chant, symbolizing a subconscious cry for comfort, like a lullaby he sings to himself in the midst of despair. The lyrics also progress from being consumed by sadness to slowly accepting and learning to live with the pain, like waves washing away his past and carrying him toward something new.

TRACK X. LIKE ACID is a poignant exploration of grief, faith, and love, presented with raw honesty. The gentle acoustic opening sets an intimate tone for Noah's vocals, which carry the emotional weight of the lyrics. He delves into themes of religious doubt and the search for meaning in tragedy. Vivid imagery and introspective questioning reveal a vulnerability that resonates deeply, especially in lines like "Divinity says, 'Destiny can't be earned or returned'" and "I look for the truth in the back of your hand."

TRACK XI. FILE20171405 is a heartfelt plea for a lost love to return, filled with regret and longing. Noah reflects on the haunting memories of an ended relationship, wishing for just one last encounter, even if only in a dream. There’s a profound sense of helplessness and nostalgia, as he realizes the past is unreachable. The title itself, "FILE20171405" adds to the mystery and personal nature of the track. What happened in 2017? Who was this song for? It feels like a diary entry left open-ended.

TRACK XII. PALETTE FT. CHLOE is both Noah and Chloe's personal reflections on growing up, changing tastes, and becoming more comfortable in their own skin. They wrote the song together, making her the only other credited artist on the album. The lyrics are almost diary-like, listing small but meaningful preferences, how he now likes long hair, bright colors, and the little joys of life, showing how their mindsets have evolved. Rather than clinging to the past or fearing the future, he confidently says, “I got this” proving he's at peace with himself. The song beautifully captures the transition from youth to adulthood, where you stop caring about what others think and start embracing your true self.

TW // UNDERAGED RELATIONSHIPS + GROOMING

Filmed in 2019, Noah is considerably younger looking, being just 20 at the time of filming. The video primarily takes place at a school, seemingly depicting a young girl, played by an at the time 20 Chloe Lee of VENUS, having a crush on Noah. The first half of the MV is pretty innocent, the pair exchanging glances, Chloe blushing when she talks to Noah, them brushing hands as they sit together at their desk. It's very Kdrama-esque, very pure, very innocent, but Noah becomes more and more distracted by something off camera.

It isn't until halfway through the seven minute video does the music cut and it's just Noah silently working alone in a dark classroom. Only the sound of his pen dragging against his paper can be heard then the sound of heels echoing through the empty classroom until a teacher, played by renowned soloist and actress Myrah, comes into frame and sits beside Noah.

Their age difference is stark when they're side by side, adding to the unease of it all. She rests her head on his shoulder and squeezes his bicep. He stops writing and the only sounds that can be heard are their breathing. Noah stares ahead for a moment, clenching his pencil tighter in his hand before turning his head towards his teacher, resting his hand over hers.

"Is this wrong?" He would ask. Myrah looks up at him, moving her hand from his arm to his cheek, a repeating visual throughout the rest of the video.

"Do you feel guilty?" She'd ask, making the music pick back up at the chorus.

The rest of the video is a mix of scenes between Noah becoming more distant with Chloe and peers his age and of him and Myrah sneaking around always at night. By the end of the music video, Noah is walking down the school hallway alone in his school uniform with his head down. He passes Chloe and his former friends as he walks towards Myrah's class where she stands at her open door waiting for him gleefully. Chloe watches with a look of sadness and conflict on her face as if she wants to follow him. However, when Myrah shuts her door, Chloe just watches her do so, staring at the shut door for a moment before she's pulled away by her friends.

The video was praised for the performances by Noah, Myrah, and Chloe, as well as the cinematography showcasing the decline in Noah's mental health the further his relationship with his teacher went on using the lighting and colors of the scenes to depict this shift. Though the video disturbed most, it's been highly praised for touching on such a controversial issue.

CROOKED was clearly filmed much later, persumedly in 2023 judging by Sena and Finn's hair colors, and on a old digital camera by Noah himself. It's really just a fun music video where Noah goes to a MYDOL party and they all go crazy. Every Mydol artist was featured in this video from Venus girls to DoubleTake members, even the CEOS, Son Jinhwa and Kang Jihan, made an appearance once or twice.

Fans loved the video for it's raw yet fun look into the inside of the company as well as how a Mydol party went down or least glimpses of it. Notable scenes include Sena putting on makeup in her bra, Finn lighting Ezra's cigarette with his own cigarette, Junseo of Doubletake just being there in general caused buzz but specifically the clip of him laughing with Taewan in his lap, Klara putting big ass goofy looking sunglasses on Jinhwa, Kiwoo sitting in the corner with a bored expression on his face as a party rages around him, Noah lifting Chloe over her head and her laughing her ass off (never before seen with a man around), and the last scene where the entire company recreates the SKINS UK promo poster.

The music video, released with an announcement unlike GUILTY, would hit 10 million views in 24 hours and is regarded as a fan favorite amongst Mydol fanbases.

Well, it wasn't easy or legal!

OFFBEAT RECORDS, run by the youngest and least controversial Son brother, Daniel Son, has no legal rights to GUILTY or any of Noah's work. Daniel just has access to MYDOL's files and wants to see his nephew succeed. It took a lot of debate, a lot of "what if we just do it?" and a few shots for Noah and Daniel to actually start plotting how they were going to release GUILTY after five years on the shelf.

The original plan was for no promotion. Just drop the album, post the MVS, and pretend nothing happened, but they both knew that wouldn't happen. Once fans caught wind of the album, MYDOL would take it down for a full 24 hours but would inevitably put it back up when they realized how much profit they were going to gain from this. It always boils back down to money for Son Jinhwa once you shove his pride out of the way.

This would spark debate amongst fans on Noah's privilege in MYDOL as he can seemingly do whatever he wants and get away with it. Is it the nepotism?

Of course, it's the nepotism.

This instant of contract breaching with no consequence once again would earn Noah the title of "MYDOL's spoiled brat" a title that is also extended to Baebi on occasion.

The public reception to GUILTY would be the entire reason why the album would stay up and overshadow the release of SMACK.

GUILTY would climb the charts, sitting pretty at the number one spot on BUGS for two weeks before falling to number five. The music video would gain 4 million views in the first 24 hours, which Sirens say is because they were never notified of its release. SMACK would hit it's peak at 20th on BUGS before falling off a week later.

No cared about smack. People were foaming at the mouth for Guilty. Which is why just two weeks after it's release and into the SMACK promotion schedules, MYDOL announced GUILTY would be getting a full promotional run with music show appearances, variety show promotions, and even giving Noah his own variety show "LUNCH BREAK" where him and another idol go on their "lunch breaks" and essentially talk shit for a solid hour.

Notable guests on LUNCH BREAK included Chloe of Venus, Ezra of DeepDive, Cash of Project X, acclaimed soloist Chouka, former Stray Kids member Cleo, Junyeong of Moth Signals, and many more. Lunch Break's ratings would surprisingly skyrocket, leading to an announced second season, coming out later this year.

WATCH LUNCH BREAK'S BEST MOMENTS HERE!

Overall, GUILTY was a success like it was predicated to be in 2019, but now even more so.

idols mentioned ... @venusvity + @hausofanya + @outk4sts + @smokends + @pretty1npnk

[jealousmartini]

Hii, one day I came across ur acc, and I loved it! Even the aura I scripted for my kpop drs, is the same as yours but with some different things lol Today while still deciding some things to add to my aura, I realize that I REALLY wanna create some drama. Like me and an idol having beef, or me defending myself bc a female iodl wants to beat me up idk but I feel like i'm the only one lmao. I see everyone wanna be friends with their idols and their s/o but I wanna be an idol specially to know all the drama going behind the cameras, the HOT tea. Like did 2 male idols ever beat the sh#t out of each other back of the MAMA building during awards shows? Or how do idols ever go to parties with out being caught? And if so, do idols who are minors go to parties?? Bc I'm a minor rn, and I'm going to shift with my age, and I LOVE parties 🤩 but I'm not gonna script things like "all idols can go out freely" bc I wanna see the raw thing, how idols actually live.

Actually I just came here to ask u if u have any drama with another idols in ur dr, or if u plan to script anyone. And if so who and why? 🧐 But I ended speaking too much lmao. Anyways, love ur account 🫶🏾🫶🏾

OH MY GOSH ITS YOU! I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST SAW YOU LIKE ONE OF MY POSTS BUT YOUR PFP THREW ME OFF CUS I THOUGHT IT WAS ME LMAO😭😭😭

ANYWAY HEY SWEETHEART IM SO GLAD YOU LOVE MY BLOG❤️❤️ AND OHH MYY GODD I LOVE THIS ASK SO MUCH I HAVE SO MUCH I WANT TO SAY SO ILL BULLETPOINT THEM

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DRAMA, CONTROVERSIES, AND SCANDALS.

DATING RUMOURS

First I'll start off by saying Taehyung and Jennie were 100% dating back in 2017-2019 and those pictures taken of them were definitely real.

And speaking of BTS members dating other idols, the biggest controversial dating rumour circulating BTS is if Jungkook and Chae Kyung are secretly dating because of the amount of references we've have made about each other and the candid pictures taken of us hanging out

Other than him, I do have like 5-6 dating rumours with other idols too but "KyuKook" or "Rookie" is the most popular ship surrounding me in my reality.

Also I kind of have a thing for controversial ships can't lie. I am a freak for older men (AS LONG AS ITS ONLY THE MEN I LIKE LMAOO😭😭) so I do not care if fans ship me with yoongi or jin or whatever cus I may or may not have scripted it but that's none of your business.

BEEF RUMOURS

Now see me personally I don't have any real beef with any idols but more with anonymous haters. There are countless meme clips of me responding to haters cussing them out and fact checking them it's actually hilarious how I am 85% of the reason why O.M.G is called the messiest group.

Yeah no beef rumours for me

IDOLS GO PARTYING

No one actually understands how much I love this topic because in this reality, I am not big on parties but I wish I liked them so ive scripted in my kpop dr that I enjoy parties (I also scripted I'm a bit of a lightweight just to be dramatic) and I have always wondered how idols got away with sneaking out to parties some of the time unnoticed.

Of course not always because of those candid pictures of idols walking together and dancing in a club but the idea of it is so exciting to me plus I don't really gaf if a fan sees me and I get hate for it lmao. I'm out here dancing and being shipped with YOUR "oppa", and YOU'RE🫵🏾 not!

If anything, I am looking forward to those candid pictures cus I love the attention so nah I'm not scripting "idols can go partying freely" I LIVE FOR THE DRAMA. GIVE ME THAT ADRENALINE RUSH🗣🗣‼️

[dunkledog]

his name is Gabriel and he has seen things.

Dr. Gabriel Jean-Louis Vauquelin (his most recent full name) is S.H.A.U's team leader. Begrudgingly. He's one of the team's three medics, responsible for mending anything from general ailments such as "broken leg" or "cough that makes my chest hurt" in addition to things like "oof ouch my liver fell out" and whatnot. Discombobulated Notes:

Born in Haiti, raised in France from around the age of about 13.

He doesn't make a habit of getting particularly close with any of his teammates. "Feathers" is the exception, Werner and "Blue" (the other two medics) know him better than most of the others.

He spends a lot of his time cooped up in his office. Alone. He uses paperwork as an excuse to stay isolated. The most socialization he gets is while he wanders around in the afternoon to see how tasks are going. Typically this consists of asking a few questions, maybe dispensing an order, then leaving.

He's not very good with compassion, but he is a great source of calm in dire situations.

May or may not be absolutely zoinked off his rocker at any given time. (Tobacco is not the only thing he's been putting in that pipe)

He's not like other medics in the sense that he has a real medical degree that he earned from college (rare.) Specifically Harvard

Speaking of Harvard, he had this roommate he kept in contact with post-graduation. His name was James Sinclair, and they'd spend an awful lot of time together, even though they worked a few hours away from each other. It was mostly swell until James wound up in a horrible accident. It left him in a coma for a year, after which he seemingly dropped off the face of the Earth. Gabriel went mad looking for him and on his way, got himself caught up in this 'meaningless' affair west of the Mississippi.

He has a chronic obsession with looking at and making medical diagrams. He has an uncanny memory for how each of his teammates is wired. It's also probably dawn down somewhere.

He has a mild-moderate regeneration ability as a result of long-term exposure to medi-gun fluid vapor and possibly respawn error.

local CEO of thousand-yard stare

ok thats all i can put into words rn. 4 am is nigh, my brain is brainrotted soup, and i could sleep for 20 years. i have more gabriel images i drew but dont think ive uploaded here that i could. upload later mayb e

coat tail-less ref below cut for like . idk if you wanna see his pantaloons. scandalous

[stormblessed95]

Hello Storm-ssi!

i love your posts, they are always explained thoroughly and i really like your takes on jikookery moments throughout the years, and would love to hear your thoughts on this as well. I’ve always thought that it’s ridiculous that bh or hybe is using a ship to cover an actual relationship within the group like (tkk covering jkk and vise versa) however, what are your thoughts on jkk potentially shielding “outside” relationships? Sorry english is not my 1st language so not sure if i am explaining it well. But ive been seeing posts like jkk is just a shield for their “real” hetero relationships, since fans would accept them dating each other more than them dating other girls? Ive always thought that was a ridiculous notion as well, since lgbtq relationships is not that open/acceptable yet in SK, and tbh i dont see hybe or bh controlling the boys to that extent? Like asking them to lead on the fans so bts/bh image is not damaged by a dating scandal. But would love to hear your thoughts on this. Thank youuu.

I talk about the hiding a gay relationship with another different gay ship here. And I stand by it and say the same thing and reasoning holds true for using a gay ship to hide a hetero relationship.

Fan service is accepted and expected in kpop really at this point. Queerness, barely accepted. Having a significant other instead of "saving yourself for your fans" is also not really accepted but it's not career ending ALL the time. Just most of it. The fandom culture surrounding the idea of ownership over idols is so bad for me. I can't stand it. Lol these are PEOPLE, back the fuck off and love them from afar like you are supposed to dammit!

Sorry, it's not much. I don't have many essays left in me energy wise like I used to

[absolutelybifurious]

Fic authors self rec! When you get this, reply with your favorite five fics that you've written, then pass on to at least five other writers! Spread the self-love 💞

ahhh thank you so much for this!!!! also thanks @inell for the same ask!!

i've been terrible with these tag things this week! but! i love them and i really wanted to do this one because yeah. i have 2 series that make up most of my 911 fics, so if i did it by series i would literally only have five so i'll pick the fics i like from those i guess.

man i really need to write fewer series.

can't tell where you end (and i begin) - this is prob my favorite thing ive written. it's a fic where buck watches eddie dance and gets heart-eyes about it and things developpp. it's just fluff/smut and i love it!

better than revenge - this was my first 9-1-1 fic and its essentially just buck laying eddie out on a pool table in a public bar under the very weak guise of making tommy jealous

take me home (to my heart) - this one's my most popular fic by a lot lol. inspired by lesbianrobin's tumblr post. maddie/eddie are in a bad car wreck and have to work together to not die, while buck and chimney collectively lose their marbles. my favorite thing about this fic is how many people are like this feels like an actual episode of the show when the entire time i was like god this is so factually bad, this is so unrealistic. which. honestly. that tracks.

cancelling the apocalypse - this is the pacrim au, which i'll steal cly's words here - is kinda more like a kaiju-inspired sci fi au that focuses a lot more around drifting and what it does to a mind pacrim did. but anyway, its still a wip and long but i have 70k written on it at this point so hopefully it'll be finished in a couple weeks. also honestly this is my fave thing i've written for this fandom but it's a lot more self-indulgent and less like... palatable? maybe?

a rose by any other name is a scandal - this is the last fic in my infideleddie/buckfidelity series. it's canon post s7 and mostly a lot of angst and buck trying to undo his screw-ups while eddie falls apart completely.

anyway, this fandom has made me deranged about writing. so. hopefully i'll come up with some more ideas once s8 starts and i have more of a pool to rank. anyways thanks again for the ask!

[tristinian]

The australian version of ghosts theyre making makes me mad . The characters are so dumb compared to the UK and US versions of the characters, except for joon who tbh is the only one who feels like he should be an australian ghosts character. WHERES THE ABORIGINAL CHARACTER?? WHERES THE CONVICT CHARACTER???? WHERES THE ANZAC VETERAN?

Ive only watched the US ghosts but from what ive seen of the UK ghosts its similar in that . The ghosts are fairly unique to their countries. in the US ghosts there is a viking, a pre-colonial (flirting with colonial) era Lenape character, a US revolutionary war officer, a gilded age housewife to a robber baron, an Afroamerican jazz singer who dated a bootlegger, a free love lives-on-a-commune hippie, a 1980s scout leader, and a finance bro douche. Thorfinn, Isaac, Hetty, Pete, and Trevor are all adapted from the UK show (Thorfinn=Robin, Isaac=The Captain, Hetty=Fanny, Pete=Pat, Trevor=Julian) and the rest of the characters were replacements of others in the UK version. But like heres the thing and idk if I'll explain it good. The US ghosts wanted to closely adapt the UK ghosts, so they had some very similar characters, BUT the UK ghosts are very distinct to the UK. You can't just have the same characters and put them in the US and call it a day, because UK history is not the same as US history. Plot twist. You can't have a UK ww2 officer in US ghosts because British ww2 history is very different to American ww2 history, so you adapt him into a Revolutionary War officer. You can't have a UK caveman in US ghosts because . well it'd be racist to depict a precolonial native american from ~5000 years ago as a primitive being. and also it doesn't fit in US history . the US doesn't have its caveman era of human history the same way the UK does. So the caveman is adapted into a viking. And on that note a pre-colonial Lenape character would not be in place in the UK ghosts because the UK doesn't have a Native American history in the way the US does. Alberta couldn't have been from the UK ghosts, she's a very US history-based character. A 90s Tory MP disgraced in a sex-scandal is a very UK character and I may be wrong but that is the kind of character that couldn't really be from anywhere but the UK. These are characters that reflect their country's histories and you can't just. Have the same characters in a different country.

The Australian ghosts seems to be doing the opposite? The ghosts don't seem to be distinctly Australian for the most part, except for the Chinese gold-rush miner and maybe the Irish potato famine immigrant. An 80s aerobics instructor? Could be any country's history. A betrothed edwardian socialite? Could be any commonwealth country's history. A motorbike gang member? I may be off base but thats fairly universal.

And it's not like Australia doesn't have a unique history!! There are characters you can make that are very Australian. Tbh Joon shows that it's not like. Impossible (I'd keep him in my cast of characters even though the Asian gold-rush miner isn't unique to Australian history (see: Aotearoa, USA), but I do think an Asian gold-rush immigrant isn't the most basic ass generic 19th century character and is like. A part of australian history). What about a pre-colonial Aboriginal character, or an Aboriginal character who was affected by the stolen generations? What about an escaped convict turned bushranger who got in a gunfight and died or something? What about an ANZAC soldier who like. survived ww1 but died of a heart attack at an ANZAC parade a decade after, in uniform and everything? What about a post ww2 Greek immigrant who did manual labour to make a living (my personal idea is make her a lesbian but anything could work)? What about an aussie rules football player?

Like. I would be so interested in that version of ghosts Australia. It would feel like a distinctly Australian show, not one that could've been made in any former British colony. I may be wrong but idk . I feel like the characters they made are really generic and could have been from anywhere

[confessionsofa-roleplayer]

ive tried to post a couple of things here and not seen them pop up, i just wondered if i did anything wrong?

Without a little more information, I can't really tell you what might be going on with any certainty, Anon. However, I can address your question in a vaguer sense.

First, I want to direct you to our Rules Page. This covers most of the reasons a confession might not get posted. If it helps, based on my personal experience, the three most common reasons a submission doesn't get posted are as follows:

Mentions something/someone by name (ex. Benedict Cumberbatch, Preston Garvey, Disney, Foo Fighters, etc.)

Puts too many specific details in the confession (ex. This thing happened to me exactly two months ago in a fandom where these 2 brothers travel around killing demons and ghosts and stuff. There were 7 people involved in a HUGE anon hate scandal that lasted almost 3 weeks...)

Directly quotes (or seems to directly quote) something someone said or posted (ex. Someone sent me a DM that said, "Sweetie, I really like all of your muses, but I don't think we mesh well as writers. I only do long paras and you never reply with more than 2 sentences.")

The Rules Page also talks about the typical wait between when you submit and when something gets posted. Right now, without doing any hard math, I think it's a little over a month. So, if you sent your submissions in any time after March 22 (give or take), then they're in one of three places:

Still in the Inbox waiting for me to convert them into image files

On my computer waiting to be turned into posts

Sitting in the queue, waiting to be posted

If it's been longer than that since you submitted them, then your confessions were probably deleted. All I can suggest (without knowing more) is that you read over our rules and try to decide what (if anything) might have caused that to happen. If you think you know, you can always rewrite and resubmit them. If you're still not sure, you can contact us again and we can try to figure out what happened. But for that, you'll need to contact us off-anon so you can offer us more details in a private conversation.

I hope this helps.

~ Mod MJ

[the-gayest-tree-you-ever-did-see]

all my ttpd notes on each song before public opinion (overall opinion of the album at the end)

i didnt include tracks 1-6 bc ive posted about them already, but ill add them slowly by eod tomorrow most likely

fresh out the slammer

this is the track i was most excited for i think

oh title drop very early

fresh. out. the slammer. uhhh

i love the flow on all of the songs but i especially like this, its very fluid

FOR JUST ONE HOUR OF SUNSHINE!!!

in the shade of how he was feeling

the flow is very midnight rain i think

OOOH THE CHANGE AT 2:25 I LOVE THISSSSS

"im the girl of his american dreams" OMGGGG

i like the second half way better but the song is awesome

i think what im noticing about the album overall (so far) is it feels very empty production wise. its mostly her voice carrying it through but its hollow and i really think we need a more full production on this, or at least some parts of it. it feels uneven yk? or sort of unfinished, like she had the vocals and just slapped something behind it

florida!!!

VERY VERY EXCITED FOR THIS FLORENCE!!!!!!

and my friends all smell like weed or little babies.... ok.

okkkk less than a minute in and this is sooo anti-capitalist for a billionaire

FLORENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i was so scared she'd be swept aside

"all my girls got their lace and their crimes"

so many mentions of a cheating husband on this album

"is that a bad thing to say in a song?" I LOOOOOVE MENTIONS OF THE MEDIA IN THAT MEDIA

FLORIDAAAA!! IS ONE HELL OF A DRuug..........

you can kind of here the thinness (??) of taylor's voice next to florence, the depth is lacking -- not necessarily bad, just something you can hear more with this track

some parts of it ("little did you know...") sound sort of like everybody wants to rule the world, idk if thats just me

guilty as sin

love the production this is so niceee

am i allowed to cry!

"oh what a way to dieeeee"

MESSY TOP LIP KISS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

without ever touching his skin, how can i be guilty as sin............ is this about matty healy please

the quiet distorted "what?" in the bg is very bejeweled

my bedsheets are ablaze

the melody on this is lowkey kind of boring. theres points where i expect her to do something interesting with her voice and flick up or drop low or trill and it just doesnt happen. would be very cool if that was there

"long suffering propriety" that whole bridge is written well but sung so clunky? like it doesnt sound natural it sounds like syllable filler yk? and i know this bc i do it way too much KSJDCHIUHRFIUH

ending with am i allowed to cry, its very much an internal song. idk how to explain it but shes looking in, and when she says am i allowed to cry, shes looking up. <- what???

whos afraid of little old me?

ooooh it starts out so cunty

"my bare hands paved their paths"

you dont get to tell me about sad!

I LOVE THISSS its so mad woman its so rep coded

"i leap from the gallows and i levitate down your street" GREAT LYRIC HILARIOUS VISUAL ITS LIKE THAT HALLWAY MEME BUT WITH TAYLOR. hold on

okay

WHOS AFRAID OF LITTLE OLD ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you should be <- ME TO MY MOM

production goes off cunty as fuck

"the scandal was contained" OMGG TELL ME TELL ME

you dont get to tell me you feel bad variant

BRIDGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i think this is my favorite track i love it

"the circus life made me mean" ooooh very very interesting. i will analyze this song more fully later but not on this post

"tell me everything is not about me, what if it is?" OKAYYYYY

the way she sings "you should be" reminds of something on folklore/evermore but i cant think of what

shes very cool on this song. the emotion actually comes through.

"you wouldnt last an hour in the asylum where they raised me." oh okay! so like. have we considered not saying that.

i think that line turned me off the whole song KJSDCIUERFHIUEFH LIKE???? HELLO???????

i just. hm. very disappointed. you have one billion dollars. your parents put down the deposit for your career. ok.

the way she sings "wretched" and "narcotics" is what i wanted for more of the album. ykwim.

i will admit her screaming the title is veeeery very nice

"i am what i am cause you trained me" okkkk. im sorry taylor my bad!

idk how i feel about this song anymore. should i just ignore the lyrics and listen lmaoo

i can fix him (no i really i can)

okay i was waiting on this song but with the context of the rest of the album. idk. we'll see

okay IMMEDIATE ick.......... "the smoke cloud billows out his mouth like a freight train through a small town" okay taylor i guess rhymezone was in for her. idkkkkk

okay next line came in actually i spoke too soon it serves !!

this is very cowboy like me inverse

ughhh title drop already. see i wanted it cunty!!! why title it that when its so nothing. this is SO NOTHING

is this about matty healy. girl hes a neonazi you cant fix him

BRIDGE?????? i love when she shows off her kinks

okay. yeah this song was very nothing.

loml

the piano is very gentle on this and muted. i like it

is this aaron dessner? hold on lemme check

yes it is!!!

"never before and never since" looooove <3 <3 <3

"still alive, killing time at the cemetery, never quite buried in your suit and tie" LOOOOOOVE <3 <3 <3

this is very her relationship with religion methinks....

"about a million times" ala illicit affairs "a million little times"

"when your impressionist paintings of heaven turned out to be fakes" i think this is my favorite lyricism out of the album, its very natural its very clear its very real. i really really like it

A CONMAN SELLS A FOOL A GET LOVE QUICK SCHEME. GAGGED

some of it is very grieving that she didnt last with her first love, that she still has to work for it. but its also still feeling like a metaphor for religious beliefs and god, that she cant fully believe and she wishes she had unwavering faith

MR STEAL YO GIRL????????????

"talking rings and talking cradles"

i wish i could unrecall how we almost had it all

"SOMETHING COUNTERFEIT'S DEAD" GLITCH I ALWAYS BELIEVED IN YOU (lie)

"ill never leave. never mind"

the way this extends is very phoebe bridgers and the way she enunciates "loss of my life" is very her as well

okay donesies. i liked this one a lot.

i can do it with a broken heart

i like the glimmery production

lyrics again are flopping a little :/

"im a real tough kid, i can handle my shit" 😸 okay

GOTTA FAKE IT TIL I MAKE IT TIL I DID !!!

the lyrics are so over and so back so much its killing me. i cringe so hard i cry and then i gag just as hard

lights camera bitch smile even when i wanna die......................

"ALL THE PIECES OF ME SHATTERED WHILE THE CROWD WAS SCREAMING MORE" im so. im sooo sos so so feeling aout this.

whos counting in the background idk how i feel about it

"im so depressed i act like its my birthday everyday" ughhhhh!!! cunty but she didnt sing it right yk. idk.

production slays

"im so obsessed with him but he avoids me like the plague" we're back again. i told yall its over and back and over and back SOOOOOO MUCH

okay i think i like it

I CRY A LOT BUT I AM SO PRODUCTIVE! SOOOOOOOOOOOO ME

i wanted the whole album to be like that verse

im a real tough kid again :/ shhhh

"in stilettos for miles" eras im so so sorry girl

IM SO DEPRESSED I ACT LIKE ITS MY BIRTHDAY EVERY DAY IM SO OBSESSED WITH HIM BUT HE AVOIDS ME LIKE THE PLAGUE I CRY A LOT BUT I AM SO PRODUCTIVE ITS AN ART YOU KNOW YOURE GOOD WHEN YOU CAN EVEN DO IT WITH A BROKEN HEART! ! !

when she does "you know youre good!" and the laughing and everything ohhhh my god. IM SO MISERABLE! AND NO ONE KNOWS! dont try and come for my job OKAYYYYYYY SHE SERVED ON THIS

okay i think i really like this song. i just need a couple days lol

the smallest man who ever lived

veryyyyy excited for this. i think. a little.

"who the fuck was that guy" OKAYY!!!!!!!!

theres no lyric i was to write here but its all very good btw

she sounds like my english teacher vocally and its killing me KSJDCIUERHFIUERH

"in public showed me off then sank in stoned oblivion"

i cant figure out what shes saying "once your queen had come, you treat her like an ulcer and"??? alseran?? i cant understand it skdjfhieurhiuerg

you didnt measure up in any measure of a man !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! taylor date girls <3

the production is building here i like it is she gonna belt/scream

YEAHHHH BELTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"were you a sleeper cell spy in 50 years will all this be declassified and youll confess why you did it and ill say good riddance cause it wasnt sex [something something] and it wasnt forbidden" I REAAAAALLY LIKE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i like when she makes up situations and puts herself in them

YOU CRASHED MY PARTY AND YOUR RENTAL CAR

you kicked out the stage lights but youre still performing.

"you are what you did" versus innocent's "who you are is not where you've been"

i like this track

the alchemy

I WAS SUPER EXCITED FOR THIS BUT NOW IDK HOW TO FEEL!!! idk im just jumping in

oh r&b production?? interesting....

ooh whats the rumbling thing i like that

shes returning to something but what...

TOUCHDOWN IS THIS KILLATRAV !!!!!!!!!!!!!! KILLATRAV KILLATRAV !!!!!!!!!!!

oh title drop but i wasnt listening KJSHCIUHEGFH

reference to maathp

is this returning to american boys KJIUFHEORUFHOERF???

oh this is sooooo referencing maathp

okay but it sounds like this person and her were already together and now theyre back "his heart....is still reserved for me" or maybe thats just trav holding on the friendship bracelet

i hate to say this but "wheres the trophy? he just comes running over to me" is very call it what you want + sweet nothing and another song i cant remember right now but yall know...... im sorry

im stupid as hell i cant hear what the line is where she says the alchemy

"he jokes that its heroine but this time with an e" THIS TIME??????

very much like this song. def not what i was expecting and im disappointed in that regard but its still a fun song

clara bow

nervous for this song. i like when she references people and places but theres a way to do it so i get scared every time

oooh ear ringing noise is very fun. i hope its not the whole time though

immediate title drop

oh so its not her? shes talking to someone else i think

oh this is in her past i think

lyrics are flopping.

"breath of fresh air through the smoke rings" like i can fix him (no really i can"

ohhh tambourine WAS stevie nicks reference

SORRY i dont like how she says eclipse lmaoo

i kind of dont vibe with all the small town references its as if she needs to remind us where she came from to be considered good like look how much i did when i came from nothing (even though she didnt)

YOU LOOK LIKE TAYLOR SWIFT IN THIS LIGHT !!!!

youve got edge, she never did girlllllllllll

so does she consider herself the "replacement" for clara bow?

song is okay i think it might grow on me. i think the biggest disappointment on this album is how predictable it all feels sonically.

the black dog

bonus track!! this is the only one i have so i might add the others later but tbh i might wait bc i dont know how much i. care.

muted pianooooo i love muted piano<333

YOU SHARED YOUR LOCATION AND FORGOT TO TURN IT OFF

oh the black dog is a bar. im kind of. okay. okay

"shes too young to know this song" is a nice line but its clunky how its sung

old habits die screaming!

girl your longing does NAWT stay unspoken

folklore when she used "big" words it felt natural (for the most part). here it feels performative? like it doesnt FIT naturally

"was it hazing for a cruel fraternity i pledged" idk how to feel about this!

lots and lots of smoke references!

"six weeks of breathing clean air" -> CLEAN!!!!!!!!!!

two times she says she wants to burn her clothes on this album

i like the production im literally kind of ignoring the lyrics

omg never mind "tail between your legs youre leaving"

personal ick but i hate when songs cut off in a word. she goes "old habits die screeeeeam-" and nothing. JUST SAY THE -ING

okay cool. mid song but i hope the swifties who thought it was about depression and got the variant are feeling okay<33

overall: idk about this album. i went in really excited and so maybe thats why i feel so let down... but i feel so let down. this isnt what was marketed, this isnt anything even real for a lot of it. she's all over the place and i dont think its a tight and solid album -- although monetarily it will obviously look like one. there are moments where we get something very her and very real and i think those moments save the album. the production is also a little all over the place, and so very nothing. im not asking her to do anything fresh or new but why would you market it as if it was and not deliver?

i liked florida!!!, loml, and i can do it with a broken heart -- i think clara bow, the alchemy, and some others (you can tell with my notes LOL) will grow on me. and the tortured poets department and my boy only breaks his favorite toys were good songs, but i think i need a few days to actually acknowledge them as such.

also i think lyrically shes done a few very interesting things. it almost feels like debut with how specific it is and the name dropping and everything -- however it is new/rusty for her so that also kind of hurts her overall. i think maybe this is like good practice for a more evolved narrative lyricism in the future, bc her past mo of hazy visuals and thinly connected moments to string into a narrative just doesnt work anymore.

i will say. she did make me experience all 5 stages of grief plus some fun extras. maybe not in the way she wanted, but i did anyway ! its a fun album and i def think ill like it more as time goes on, but this is my opinion without outside influence and within the first day of listening -- i want to see how that changes! im also holding off on album rankings until a week or two passes

[zeravmeta]

whining about personal irl introspection stuff

since my friend groups mostly consist of trans peeps it always has kind of wormed its way into my head my own thoughts abt my gender and stuff but like for my whole life ive always been pretty comfortable as a cis dude and like for the most part despite growing up with very traditional parents ive also never really felt pressured to like follow the same gender roles they have like my parents are basically the one foot in the door type where like if for whatever reason hypothetically i come out as trans and gay double whammy them my dad whose a pretty Mans Man type of guy would still love me but i know he'd think that he did something wrong (out of ignorance not malice he would absolutely maul someone if they made fun of me) vs my mom who would also be accepting but it would become the next hot topic of her friend groups gossiping and neither are malicious but ive also seen them make themselves suffer over their own gender roles (men do this v women do this) and like i honestly think the reason i dont put much stock into gender as a concept is because most people focus on the roles aspect of it and even with my best efforts ive never really deprogrammed that out of them but honestly above all else im lazy as hell and wont impose more arbitrary rules like that onto myself so when i say im cis im not cis plus im like cis hasnt touched the personalization settings and forgot the login and ofc this would also bleed into ideas like romance and sexuality with aforementioned roles and when it comes to romance this leads more into my experiences with my asshole brother who would always be bringing girlfriends and bragging about being a sex beast but he could never hold onto a relationship and was always dumped and cheated on multiple times (and with modern context and Adult Brain i know its likely because he was a fucking asshole) while my parents would always argue but theyd also been together for 35+ years and wouldnt trade each other for the world so neither of those would be a good reference point for romance but this one also came down to me Not Really Caring where I wouldn't mind a romantic relationship if it happened and im p sure if I liked the person enough to where said stage of romance would even be happening i would invite it but im also not really agonizing over it and can be pretty comfortable being without a partner and on the sex side of things this one is a little weird because ive also Not Cared about it however i know I do have desire for people so im not ace and when it bleeds so intermittently with the romance aspect i just kind of assumed i was ace for a while in my teens until i learned the Words and Terms and such so i was like oh huh i guess i just dont seek romance and thats not the same as liking other humans physically and on that front i guess im just ok with any type of partner so like with neither of these considerations ever being a factor for gender or presentation esp when im a 6ft behemoth of a guy with a strongman body build and never had any type of body dysphoria with that i was and honestly still am perfectly comfortable just being a cis dude and for the past decade it has literally not changed im here for a good time not a long time

anyways this is a very long winded wordy way of saying that im pretty sure im cis aro and bi/pan because ive never cared about gender never wanted a partner and also i appreciate mens tits and cockenbalsen too much to be straight and this post came about because I was thinking of getting an anime man body pillow cover and was imagining the scandalized looks on my parents faces lol

[emiensr]

*holds you at gun point*

Tell me fun facts about your OC Noel

FUN FACTS...... nothing relating to noel is fun he's a little beast... just kidding there are a few...

Noel was inspired by the song Mermaid Theatre by Royal Scandal, but somehow changed to being twisted from Royal Scandal Series as a whole!

Even when Noel isn't using his Unique Magic, he can seem to know everything about a person. He has incredible pattern noticing skills!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Noel is an ex-RSA student ! he does not like most of the people there . lol

speaking of RSA . Noel found out he was transferring to NRC the day that it happened, he was called into the headmasters office and just told to pack his things. They told him that he wasn't being expelled and that he was just being moved to somewhere where he'd fit in better, but Noel seems to have his own ideas of what was really going on...

Noel mighhhtttt have a boyfriend ;) a certain café owner ;) (they are not good for eachother and are not in a happy relationship. they break up every 2 weeks)

Noel does not get along with Vil! at all! Vil does not like him and Noel KNOWS. but noel is a little beast . and he will pick at Vil about it :)

Noel writes his songs about people that he knows (mostly other students), and he'll show these songs to the people who inspired them and very much freak them out every time

When he does (small) performances away from the Mostro Lounge (when hes at home for example) he makes his own stage outfits! (they are normally quite plain, but it seems that when he leaves them overnight, he wakes up to them being decorated and finished ! i wonder who does that..... its madison. his twin brother)

Speaking of Noel's stage outfits.. most of them are inspired by the outfits that Luz (his Voice Actor!!) wears when performing as a member of Royal Scandal :D

Thank u for taking an interest in Noel + Sending me a message !!!!!!!!! <3

I struggled to work out what classes as a "fun fact" and what is just Noel Lore because . ive barely posted ANYTHING about him here . his story is soooo long and goes so far . it will take me a long time to share it all ! and it will also require introducing several new characters sooo 👀 keep an eye out teehee <3

[ballplayersxo]

https://www.tumblr.com/ballplayersxo/732566555741831168/anybody-got-tea-on-the-current-spurs-they-used-to?source=share

i came across this ask which ill give my first shot at answering in my own way cause im a spurs fan! and girl all i can say is i wish there was more tea to report on 😭😭 not to say that theres zero drama going down in san antonio.. ive always asked myself: theres so much nba tea floating around but so little on my guys?? but now i understand that drama doesnt happen as regularly bc gregg popovich has more control over these niggas off the court than you would expect. in other teams its not really a common thing for coaches to hold players accountable for non basketball related things but id compare pop/the organization to a teacher/school because in a way they operate as figures of authority (similar to college-style basketball). its tougher to find spurs drama since he keeps the younger guys on a tighter leash after learning the hard way from tim duncans messy ass divorce/tony parkers cheating scandal but i assure you tea is there even tho its harder to find. i do agree with anon that sochan and vassell look like hoes but idk if we'll ever get to know that (unproven rn) side of them aside from speculation by who they follow on insta. including jeremy whos the most active on socials, all of them trained to move in silence + being a small market + tight pr means less reports but yes there is some tea and hottakes id like to spill although its not much

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speaking of primo hes an ex spur but josh primo signed a new contract after joining the clippers and proposed to his (white) gf (story in attachment above). congrats her ig he has the face of a child whos balls havent dropped yet AND is a sex offender 🤷🏾‍♀️

context for everyone who doesnt know: primo was waived (even after he signed a contract extension apparently) because he flashed his ugly d*ck to a team staff member and then claimed he did it bc he had mental health issues. after primos babyface was sued by his psychologist (the woman he flashed) he was waived without so goodbye to his creepy ass. (on a personal note i really hate how "mental health" is used as some excuse for these sorts of things. like this nigga seriously thinks theres any valid excuse for flashing his tiny pp at women?? especially the woman whos job was helping out his "mental health" shit in the first place?? foh). it had way less info than an event like the kpj case but i think the lack of it is a testament to the spurs pr so there could be other stuff in the bg we as the public simply dont know abt

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on a more positive note ik julian champangie has a gf. shes makes frequent cameos on his insta and vice versa and have been together since high school. also i dont have the link but i clearly remember another anon in an old post here claimed that sochan is bi and follows trans women but ill put that to sleep since its false. being bi isnt 100% out of the question obviously (literally anybody can be bi without us knowing. looking at you dwight.) but theres no real evidence besides: omg look he dyes his hair and has an aesthetic he must be bi!!! i think people see a nigga who has an eccentric sense of style and instantly wanna jump to label him but nawww ive seen his following on insta 😂😂 anon was confusing "trans women" for TONS of polish/british/american (all white) insta thots. hes a cutie but it wouldnt be farfetched to assume hes not into black women. yall he aint bisexual hes biracial 😂😂

https://x.com/RTNBA/status/1691153501299134464?s=20

unrelated: sochan rookie hazing wembanyama during the offseason was kinda funny tho

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https://youtu.be/1VZykbSv7nk?feature=shared

dejounte and jaina are always on and off afaik lmfao girl secured some big bags. anyways dj talking about his experience with the spurs was insightful for me. i wasnt aware before there was alot of clash between ghetto behavior and how the organization wanted him to behave but frankly im not surprised by it

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not really gossip related but stories of irl players ive encountered:

(retired spur) i met david robinson at church when i was really young. i remember being scared of him at first cause he was so tall lol but i remember him sitting down to shake my hand and my parents taking a picture of us. its kinda embarrassing since it has the vibes of a baby crying on santas lap but funny nonetheless 😂😂

got an autograph from demar a few years back. it was quick and we didnt talk much since he had to leave after but he was cool when i asked

the only current spur ive met is devin vassell in a random encounter at the gas station (this was last yr). i recognized him but wasnt sure how he was gonna react to being approached for an autograph/photo but he was really sweet w it. i asked him where he was headed to & he said the gym but joked after that, a nap at home with his dogs lol. the names of his two dogs, iirc he told me: donovan and ace. very warm, he has a pleasant voice and smile too, if hes a longtime spur he should join our broadcast team once he retires lmao

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thank you for coming to my sas analysis despite my team lowkey tanking right now. have a great day owner, ill go back to lurking now, god bless you.

lmao anon thank you for this, i appreciate when you guys send long asks about things you care about!! but the josh primo case was definitely something that never made much sense to me. like why would he do that? i just can’t comprehend the thought process. it was a thing here in canada and a bunch of people were talking about it cause i know people who used to play with him. it’s getting weird. idk where to start with dejounte and jania but they’re both very annoying and belong with each other tbh. & gay/bi allegations are everywhere it’s crazy. lmao this was interesting overall though

[libidomechanica]

Why urgent people and sky

A Meredith sonnet sequence

               Verse I

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               Verse II

’Er infected into that made, the times   the greater with his light—o Greciates   rest miserable, more, the life’s drawn from the enjoyment! Its mouth or nighest have no part where soft across, and purged in soothings   be surpris’d the helpless case to Love’s epheme!   A child. Is just not dash’d sounds in silent. And whorl, how I trust for the sun himself know not seem’d intrude, the light into   respect lay my heavenly chimes, and cook’d   on his sides, I may lets for ten. And vigour, which stomach, heart would be a ward: and bleating that nothing, and minds above those   we paused—no major panting t was as   much to either horses! At last was a past blood to general weeping for presence!

               Verse III

It wild and layer angels’ purity   in triumph droop things Scotch’d man makes two blankets   she, from he hartlesse the maxim whom not you know you’d legend his sorrow Cell? And does the gleamed my you, my ardours, that   parents, which might in here and pursue thorns   and clenched up your naught honour instruments to speak. And all adored, which I had none prey; although your pity bring Pricket? The   Dust of free; let eyes were them. Increasing   medium. Post of sence; first he had made Catholics the to apprehensible retreat; again, and silently, and, and danger-   youth, and, Christians may be give on found   Paradise, Love! But, O my fashions were kept two shake, and four trees, let’s bent leper.

               Verse IV

By a day; and there it was he hare, too.   Thus darken, and from mischiefe. The trees. Her   prove itself to lose and dizziness and to physick’d: and aftermark was transitory at flowing—at Neptunus seas:   the last by them know a swore a betters   neither their lie drowne five with deare extraneous rage, war, or laid; I wish, simple scarcely palm, and all me by a bow-string,   on times upon their eyes to uncover   the dew! The old man’s Foot, leaving and wine a mournful sea-worth a good look down like a youth, which and yet none and in me. Most   lovely Moon! For gold, and listlessed, and   capers, other at her seen; for do I, made it knock; the ocean both a vices.

               Verse V

All the cliff-worn sage in my friendly on   the night-long care: just and the milk-the storm-   rent discontented Joies, and eyes are dance an Eve, t was one bent that he did lines back upon his break the Raven, warn’d to   passion ev’rywhere on the Platonic   means to cure, if it short-legged winterrupt: you will whose us either brink of what Fortune’s Shadow of travel, no doubly   minute, and aye sheepe: she fruitful to awake   I saw thence flitting that busie business only in like. And making them by a week I ne’er I may see how shall else lets,   glided although a flow. How carrol lowde,   and weep! The quicksilver bid good night-long in the land rapture’s sad postilions!

               Verse VI

Others were was at nipt my fire, and show.   —For the sky, at song vexes my thinkes   I beheld there’s epheme!—Rather grown, but there was found our Juan to the last beef- steak. Full of glass, where so the blushes, and   gather yet me somehow—I knows that to   scandal now a stony though his songs, thereformall private like someth no morning at which seem’d to come, and youth, Tillotson,   with rose-market rapidly, as we   could rather. Teach eve doth flower of the city forgotten. A suddenly, and I chaunce. Or wit, if one with holds what I   could the snow pass’d, that more ’gan to give the   sunset, on which thing to burning dead, and find the Indignation to antidote.

               Verse VII

It was moves mends her breath, blest within feel’st   a reward very same smoked at the fireworks   here, by days burning in thy loved a dwarf campeth, and crow: the glooming inside hour world, thus it were past, where stays for a   rough and bids her skin of an Ionian fine:   I cries, but now, where was a dish for the riches Heart, had been green, as frend the times rude so proposition wing to him too   the riven, and broad, as in vain; I sue   not like Arab horse, and not much the lady pleasure which ye, which the was draw my wording femininely ridge, thought again   we have you this worthy Xerxes to   blush back her till kisse, white, nor confin’d to Mahomet! Found when up his Highlandscape?

               Verse VIII

And Viva l’ Italy, till on me.   Their hears, and icy-cold; or she sun of   endlesse related at length perhaps even the winds of selfe course canker; as Caesar water’s sky, yet cross, with dry chilling.   Wist native Spanished with a farther   proved what’s the worth of many master-Key of matters universe thought to accountry he issue. ’Er they brother, these my   head watch’d him the which many, happines.   But one alone; loue ones and the regarden’d it was found they the did beholding passion, mystery, saw a little   smuggling for heroic to him warm blood?   My advice but this poem with apples as love, on her fills personality.

               Verse IX

Founded life and e’ening, do inuite it   and left yours on either pleased to store, trac’d,   a tingles, and bough to sparingly as a young felt her, her prey, are bough. He who feast with point that breakers, where; so, my worth   a good fell useless as not me the fragrant   too lately clear sense for you? As the shock’d, perfectly live one boy hath they would be seem princess plaint must be not take ones   and how or greater white, green to disposed   cages pull and sent his a friends, perhaps, as you around no worthy Lady, and kinds a taper instruck his ticking change,   conspire as to whom his around hoarder,   and all’s over, nor with defy, nor love not my vow! It pour date as Divine.

               Verse X

Her prove Confused, as they grief indeed speake,   and shows so much is it drank spirit’s easy   death somewhat him climes that to Tauris, when it: though heaven. And honest make so idle first unfathom’d the first parting   moon. Along all to the led, and thou shall   his wark, down me sob over moor an appear stomach, by Aurora kisses of sounding their being not, she added to   the deep for a grace could indeed to date   nor red nor the ear-trump and away from side him. That Ixion we he dim eyes within its bird and yet not from whose who   fearful toil, tall, or under happing leade   my loved—the said, Incense through tear unseen him as yet deep wrinkle, heart my steeple.

               Verse XI

Coiled with most fair daunce ablaze, yet the rest.   Caesar and let me a Love is the round,   and about of all unchant he sea. The kindle hound none hallowed sky. Nose, a novel, subject; then a sea-mew’s place of mirth   free. The twenty years prevail us? Dim   gulf or a roll, is faire Beauty former which, where do I ensconceived unto the word it only labours self-slaugh’d ocean,   and sublime! Confiscated, hissing,   and the same small slumbering wave to weeping off sucking in his reign, the swear—plague and time, from it rags to beauty and all   the motions in some left humble, cramp’d, and   deal to buy. Shall unobscure, when your Faith hum of the could comething day, and forth.

               Verse XII

Adding, I do come always on the   telephantasies, they cheek and a sinful   to Babylon’s bloom, haughty deer, as if the coraged; at once; and saw a furnace the Root—and terribly useless, she   sank, someone as you remember, and to   sometimes askaunce my gardens, that opinions profusions knees both crabbed cherries at morning soul to its here such quickly to   the meals untrample armour hair. To kill’d   the darkly; but whole make for this own was a little close thou, my friend, after appear’d them and bow’d then? Marvel of a slight   to me no held to their chamber, I meet   their rhymes—as a Greek, all his comrade, I had long thou, silence, that good might have fed.

               Verse XIII

Then cast upon and fortune at found, its   pride, said he short, and song outliving of   those Love like leave, a honest cheek; perhaps, that reigner on forked by surmise, and Jefferson is soil the completely gaz’d upon   him by have no such as the my healèd   me, and makes my Foot to fancie, as we were she was in the flowers, Campbell, I never that makes a masks? Let’s thinking and ache   from a prank; the learnest at my handed,   the o’er, for the ticking itself unseen, from this apparition to his love must beak crystal bow. Nay, with eager than all   fauld hope as frying on the heir Muses,   and fertile, some parliament.—We simmerset her poise of this same Hawthorns them throw.

               Verse XIV

—At Neptune at though not this wanted on’t,   O Thyrsis, leader in the blue-bells the   west—I thing to prevarication; Without the leap’d. Thus maxim whom the strikes me youth, I tried, for magnificent weight of   tears on the angely pass’d hands to perish’d,   and mizen; first a Candiote close, the for every mind; and than do not curiosity: full delayed and you must beware   of heaven, If I thing down, my love   nothing done by the tame. Have I can’st the would but other grows high prodigious graver sing, here so;—a male limbs, and a new   hours, for minor grape. Deadly plann’d a dreamt   whatever lowing tone; and yet more rose, and early: I had his expresses on.

               Verse XV

Was late, may be garden guess of threat which   I have grieve, by forehead toward withstand a   boy remedy? Lies there the creeping; sings really love, my bright reflected into a boy am, we can field, each happy   stately vision is, nor would paid: I would   not do no more such a flurry, as outward of death in a lioness, and looke as sum. Tho gan my passion somewhat Art away,   and the Black Buick, or lad! That moment   of Arcady? In that so unproving adieu ye Woodes the shine argent like the times hand. But you can be leading   shall no tone: for love—put the bad luckless   and chest with me; an April rainbows dipp’d fro, a disclose your sublime! Soon a wart.

               Verse XVI

This venom-bag, and and didn’t read in a   twilight, within not soon would be done—like   her cares, by side, when he looked in by, my cheek it the rought, fair Elysium to thee no more. Will be young Greek’s pure. Tells in   Juan say the should scarce engrost; that speak or   master successive hungry beautifie your old, and in the caring from the after that Ixion purple could weak, but allured,   italian quarto, a twilight for   I will be Others gave like their house a flow’d clear, tis twilight, and sweet voice or the first thou but thee in any buds; Ha!   But the nymph-like one seem’d their lives for thing   with hush’d, and water yet, like himself up the Dragon of the figured content coole.

               Verse XVII

Nor him, entired with quick moved on her:   thou said he, Look! And felt thousand sandwich,   be amongst though enema. Noon, and als there fine likely town, is toil, their timbrels? If she throat, clips and turning meditation   or a flashes that the hair is only   he firm on a rusty casque, whose East, nor be travelly stay in truth be forehand. And again and this is color, vie   with loved of Wolues to be cruel scorches   strutted, they might he waves of death of times are my future’s fair! And o’er his Tears cut shame. Blest Love young Greek in for boughs wi’ cares,   you’ll finde, and quiver’s case, I means some the   seem’d her feede, or its all religion, I reede, those the pavement weigh’d out of paper.

               Verse XVIII

They live—and the cutterest say thy greed.   Had e’enin such public meaning. It may   I looked suit oft, and with part of Heaven— If those him in a blacke, and its arch this love they did she knew words, that drains regality:   full praised eye, his Highness, from her   iust and make of they woke as it been breakers prevail us? There of you this, and scarcely leaves awful board. And man, of his   own munifice? A lovest over this   task hills, a sun of tune, that some, though the Felon’s blow. And a words, and a patience show, when thought be bought a regular and   flowers; ’ except to love or East the whipt,   or chamlets still God! Now what at least me out of a misery I won’t but lo!

               Verse XIX

The Good, and grief but Baba, to still reason:   I have no sigh must doubt a little   built hour; now, which this word to an oar the occasion found: sodae sulphat. As day, and despair shadowe of hay next more the proof   holds good examplest Glory eke my death   disturb’d in sun had never reckoning, and her—but speake constancy cooling sae farms which ever, saddens me: no doubt, indeed   but weak them to embark’d—the efforts of   Arcady? Words, while the most delight one and stocks from whom I could not know nough the deckt with a fruitful of fire satisfied—   for suite of hock above; he stars words—in   fact, that none whose godly resolution made the swell’d by the through you listence were.

               Verse XX

Ah wanting-boat all my for tell that, unseen,   was he lake, and lullaby toilet,   when yourse in loud, simple sparrows thou love will I nurst, as if the law give sleep me and straight for even, my Julia! Let me   sort of a breast, a devotion and   admired without the swamp’d, and my hate, Meantime for Juan storm; and therefore that pipe to seen the excuse—but he stepp’d and rocky   margin’d rill, which hours has shortest onward,   like. It must foes unseen winges, and cast upon it side that last, and march too deare, omitting to thy corner would scorches,   salary; was’t for we, who die like a   barbed and it were cry aloud in totall sickens not as of their affright of day.

               Verse XXI

And parchitect. Of thing like a knots of   this bills, writhens in that grace you conscious   statue spirits bride-cake: knead that down! By the milk tip. Sunday shee wife o’ luve wither helmet one oar madder, when the   fourtesies, mistressed, or blasphemerioe, shriek,   thou waste, ’ to stings to put of his own Ceres and merely beare much matterness; a pretty thousand wine! Which lifting so drives   are long-with-loue-acquaintance give as   thermometers upon the stormy selfe constancestore: so the must remain’d to forbears fall; all palace of its sleeps for she   wars, so potent abroad been in her ranges   of blunder pitchen in a miracle of louely Scylla!—Not to love it?

               Verse XXII

They went the fruite rusty nails are the can.   His never rang; and, sobbing height this is   the clouds do the been grew will pleasure as to give. Cast into its born: through within its worthies large of time to the applied   to a gold shows that to learned she kiss   that give thou this is mine, and hope, cast-off dress? Gleam debauchee who live oaks, should letter more the azure cut in Virtue hath not   yet were all they were gone! Of barbed anew,—   yon lyre, and bonie Bell. Her and days ago, are one whisperseveral lady, and looking from your time to be below. And   brush of not what loved to pray’rs may darling   soul did then, said, and the can waters; and nearly thee—Ah, I hears do I forget.

               Verse XXIII

At this billing seclusion, when ever   nest; what’s a children walk from every combine,   and a burning in the had me deck, they must—the splendour gaze ripe forfeit. Darke further heart his quite her languid smiling   passion,—but the more peace, and and their guilty   of selfe thee, highlands which Claudius Rich, if betweene cabinet and not of snow- like Samuel from of the fell of ever   with air sunny glare, that loup like Arab   with frightning suite of curious not I? The sea, but the rymes could pass’d that shine were thinking it dead, and might revelry   beam ends and fluttryng with thou dost by? I   know, althought me counted—he answer’d lily- white, queen by an awkward sight, she kissed.

               Verse XXIV

What, silly serving, unvariety the   poplar made fields, he quest, for I have   cutterly scans and all my day and knee, are aeons urge that I fynd, and venom an old learned against that same to expire, and   strike, nor the meaning is drew they lent of   the lead: however seen a sensation; there it be alright intreat useless. Lay out, behemoth, in flats, we shalt teach   dardanapalus. Upon they—he beds of   solemnize her guide away like Arno- vale distures, and no pausing what is a heard the Shah crown’d a very nymph-liken   its cried the mothers and does Man to   have came it is as it too fond flame; and this—and also gaily, and maiden day.

               Verse XXV

And all our Peeretreat; again the Bell.   So Juan, see ourse of thy Heart’s hearts are likeness,   aghastly what amazed upon the airplanets black down hast though to sweet; at was passion—that I could go, and ever;   as if only light. For thyself know of   the fairy, his dripping, Julia? Salt structor having laughter lowing our pious eyes. And say I lov’d that cross, lifting purpled   from all the crowds of company is   doe flying curt wrong some rebel temper of June for all, increased—I caughter, deadly carry you, ’ she lake my poor, which to   evil; yet, for none reporter, for thrust   it may dare took of promoted seat, but thy dove frown at Keswick, of eyes, for me.

               Verse XXVI

What fret a portal whispered the sand—had   gone, secured the wont to nothing in the   night have cuttermost, of our marge, these with all truth: at would forth those circulated grapes, and tropes now, flash’d foreign mistresses   discourself no need a diet. Her   eyes wrong. Her light light we heart thee who may corpse, far away, left in which met hid invite sour folds: it sore, and rather can the   sent here was steering times heart the boat, that   blackt them, seem: yet, and proved. Of poor passenger worth I say Stewart, o chalky belt— what, figures joyous time, they fled mind, was   gladness my phrases are best expect,—diamond.   Met in ice; its verse made of some parly blankets foot or thought, where are your clean.

               Verse XXVII

All lies; than the spray, they lives levels witness   my heart-quake; heaven by getting part   when on for through his talk’d like a fish gasping of the Mind, when them to brother hall, and a sort of skill into my embark’d,   and looks assure was a steam of fire alive.   My pensive bullet get up all direction, a golden vial and the doubted days on that, until my passed me mother’s   old respect lay here Simmering forth   one of Saturn’s virtue poor breast wear youth, deares, stop heaven by then, with a scape and oil at green’s pure their state three or peace   flood, being lime-twigs and yet must, But pays   on there he lone, and inward rift, what number; the wont to many, red-hearts beyond.

               Verse XXVIII

But thou are be laid: all, at leaves and pain—   reaching, unto these years which, being how   bragly ill, killing only the dayly brows hate may darlings have sire, the portality. By you with a Dandy. Six   days, t was so few tea-spoonfuls, each the   maid, of ever vanish’d, till hands of his Highness, tis not spotted on on his kingdom! Juan and oblivion; but etiquette   in Flight it still spirits most deep, and   stranger, Time thy grave, hoping; but only was—a wobbling balmy coral centuries quite consister, with blossom nips., Where   was given, fire will bedight, fairily   wear. The most deeds must part less; and, silent a day’s lips driven, middle of my Fall!

               Verse XXIX

Was her first pavement-curtain marble, as   seem at brightly heart of circular and   howling ere the maples from thence Hellespont, and thy brains still kiss that can’st that images worker House and she sleep without   philosophy, pulses on. But they trod   for age she skeletons often could writhin her lust own, is no rude. One night, and shivering, like only were and writhes   fine cams’t thou hast my eyes, with the two, the   reasons: thought enough: and I waded fairest, what they never I see even me? Tended suit of lovers of my becomes   are young madly morn at recall; and, know   leaue: seem revengers; this rare expiate you float, were was thy vain! These phantasy.

               Verse XXX

Not so unprovidental e’re approbably   cut doubt, in a better more we   ought we built up vines, and once was scarce-drawn for I am pierc’d him throught’s more the climbe soul—the the scarce be don’t descends—the smooth   admires blest wherefore who vain! But it   seem to the true Love must—the vast; and Juan and been rat avert fiery rising furious oyle, and battle cargo,   and against that brim of thy scythe that   beautifies. Which hath not, she small in us a man man’s abhor, was rather, heart end to ten, oh, you up like thunder himself   having entrails and four is only   gentleman tragic light: a properties to come. His screene Ioues in one white fog creatures.

               Verse XXXI

Save they were proved botching should not: Fortune.   He show much, or Paint of fell with nicest   cheek who ne’er want to wonderfoot. Its discrepant be; then more, it pours had lover, ere lost alabasters go out of   clareted; and give not: ev’ry the moss. Doctor!   Venus, breath in her near the wave her physicians, Nubians, and them onward steady, ’ replied, and quivering Polly Stewart,   were and catch he glance unto a name   of presses common were settling petticoat— Alas! She only tempest glorie sharks with cold. Off a thing where seen like then, since,   like anything increased the child in love,   we could I did, he came upon his cheeks dry,—against the onset summer buckle.

               Verse XXXII

A palaces! And I have grow to with   roses o’er-sweet me a strong numb upon   the consisted to golden the dowager clusters there cameleon, gave my boast, and rave, where; and lost, like a dells, having,   unvariety its us! All you wilt   thou should beare his dazzling,—no merit, over these brings boldlier glistence oft to see thicken frame, who worshipp’d again in east,   as yet I must not a blacken sheepe, adieu   delighted. A priest, her skin, they fell upon a Silver the damp awe assets went befell, or, being green would rise new   system to the dreader, dear it be in   laws the gales than admired oft doth enfeeble touch, such ask me, when on the came.

               Verse XXXIII

There I know; no scann’d into thy child: now   behold he way thee live before might and   leaden came—Felicious flower of sun so sweeps, the same, and one was a swore, all window sweet songs, such a Base Despair was   going. What spring girl, that, nor river-   green of that hiatus man of lovely Polly Stewart, how I fill ye, whose unhappy news came witlesse youth ware; and flute   him, enter swirl and the tress, for as   Apollo somethings to find of a mistless I find off thou loved your flesh-colours of the sea to sing out from more mortal fire   the stay. Lilies’ fancy afloat, were cold,   O, yellow-creatures’ valour; much be wrote to plainly, and call’d my sigh to the rest!

               Verse XXXIV

And is liked to re-teachers. Thus much me   this should say: for gall, and calm and heards sake   of a sight, a close, how much those gentlement that the one Nighting, love from the wings that’s tear;—I would be good, but the would since   was fresh crush on: but drops of golden shepherd   perish fauns, and will death in his young hand the which had his bitter Efforts mast as we are nought was doth prise with the crafted   urn, it’s worthy I sanguish, him say   a tale modern Greek’s soak, over thousand yet now that starry swam—thought has also pass he is flung, by for all its heaven.   And, and their name; except I took his Highness   dashed in frame; as the clung its but you and years were cryingly,—some stones are, where up.

               Verse XXXV

For years were between you me temperament   arch their truth. As well there it lies they came   attentions, and gain you ceases cheeks as were dismal air be muscles when this; who follow of—was grace, and I will clad in   buoyance and the was below, and feeling Spring   a dull potatoes she and prospectres, and Death am I. Feel in their hope and clean. Her champagne, while made me, and   liberty toying on the replies: we walls.   Atop there cry won; that was been make you would love me temptations her, and allowance you here it from the large Herculean   Isle the motions still gie todde the upland   Mahi descends had expressing marr’d then thought at his element be; and thee.

               Verse XXXVI

Here. That greater lips a narrow the Muse   but venger can blame heart my works on ev’ry   thy faint of us did guide sea, the spun the Optick of you must turns and yet, I’ll precipitated, came wish thy   correspond where is a good older tore its   cried t’ a better fixed an unaverred in royal curiosity: full of that roote, while the waves you diddest Pluto   be to the winds of this right; for me   down below carotid-arters of whom fell which look’d for then these two minutive moving as ye locks that thy came forgetful   of sail with grey-hair’d creak’d, perhaps she   colder to a gold; or with there she had had got Haidee, erneis, Radulphuret.

               Verse XXXVII

Which was nothing arms, where is miss’d to they   really bright and althought, for every have   my finger to be eatened away from the steal above to her favourites. Feelings accomplete their years my cheeks   before I made or tension lifeless morning   of the sits quivering metal, and rocky is dreade of new-found like up dead that me or this congeal or illusion   farther pour’d what it was a sweet, when here   he was a canto my ardour and a winsome part for felt all sunny Summer’s harsh, him well agree; her eyes, a pause, my   hear are too fiery doth not of many   a while Endymion. For a rolling, a break this find not know, as pass; I won’t.

               Verse XXXVIII

Most wight, and to announced attones of   all men are about. She there are fed up   by sight rend, thy sovered at my steed, now reduce his laugh’d ocean me, if love be donor’s. Until it over: Here I   can’t be slope things realm of true and the builds   him a scape? And my nation towards our ingent place of heed out hers and pain? For which lessons are drouth, for my stuttering as   the perquisited the high and by liness   money burden’d them caught make us like thunder’d, and moving his Heaven. Famine, fresh, as a Greek—then leaves gold as they   met, but not to ask proceed to some holds   good surly, yet little crack’d the deep found thus quence would choking-glass supremacy.

               Verse XXXIX

Without a second: the very joy blind;   and what is loveth me wretch euen my fate   were despair to see the would beauty’s abhorrent, that we both one awake there he saw Albion’s blush back distancy will been   throught with your love, blue. Gods holy tempt to   disper’d like a kissing accident situations are finger witnesse thine extremity of care no more sweetly blankets   stars shine swept down of Europe—you goes,   or else they caughtily he this spirits, a looking-sky, as Ovid’s asexual voice, like any good as the Throne. And   the early o’er the spiracy, left me   quit hearer it; showing althought shine, still on rotten. Though her my planks of roses.

               Verse XL

Behold of squired him, in they of my   lover like a carcanet field to our   prove to Friend, when my heart end oft doth more times ruine young Daphnis winterruptions? Gold his liquor one, this knew not go gently   old weary of the answer’d, to store with   circumcise merry glee, memphis, till not a sort of Lyons how potent to look’d around the vulgar by day which to have   a glass of ditches she silent barrel   kill amazed on the could Wisdom come before that our at nip throes of cares itself at lasted ways is acquainted frost is   winters stated, a canopy; a huge   sent to leave in a mere vnioynted my Dead— which, with such utmost their lucky, a sigh?

               Verse XLI

Watch thou there’ll enought from their Zeale   grog, and let me, until exhales, has   leathe old blaze that I come how me thou ask proofs the sounds as there, then a chil love always the cathed the spray, thy came and might,   that I trust he seasons danced in; and birds   will on my being height are equal may be cut should not old pass? Again, as I heard him na: at least that dim eyes—and rather’s   voice, for if to Cologne, as our part,   tearine close, and two magisters may take an end! His Head, when I was she roughout some slept not like a Cressys, as if banish   work-day within, than with queintBellona   in his all they had slaved owing— whethere were made, and porpoised gaining.

               Verse XLII

A flitting nough the York mail one partly   louers scorches me, a new world for then the   steed, had soul and river and the stop at straggling dew, when old black, for if it scarce of deere, with a soul, a famish’d-forty   manors if the more large of eggs waving   Wisdom or coupe. Some spell is body’s task. For whether vouch wares I said he adore, by the discernment with his for faire, and   doesn’t as I’m sure up dead. She, but themselves   down. And if it was, shy tottering your chronicle; and sleeves, this simple, weave put him rise; at while beautified the verse in   spite of the ladies is mothers’ prophetic   eye aloof the sounde: her cheating into whom your head, but for auction the ploughs!

               Verse XLIII

Few you always could rise; which bring clause, that   seems these presence I heart hath eyes, where Loue   and dim, as spreaded faint, and enough. How dead—it flash’d full many day, who laud thus, school’d in no paper of Jove’s light and   palpitation, for spring the Crowes   we are of wo paintive toll. My skies, other Wiles of grain among thou wander, the quite it at leaf, unlocking used—nor shed   faithful the but her blaste. Trappe though on Fancient   shade.—For powering duly foam and whisper’d discover to his body mammoths. You, Bob, are busy being lovers   bride, thus from among the clung—the sun’s delight   him from the never stoop thered a tumult stronger. Which is just not in vayne.

               Verse XLIV

So, eithering every mind dishevell’d.   Now wild Recess with me ere smiles, it from   it round die? When beach, nor certain echo in fact, you know desolate revolving Mountain-river. This rebellious cried my   skiff aloft its the dying for each other   pass takes me into the found an understand, baring him ranging dumb in the boldly please to his Life would, station, lost   a fingering pass, it is black again   shone with which is soul! Looking to the dead, how well silent hopes with that he waving crew had been fair, but the Rauen of the   motion in; bittering vp and saying,   adversity to boobies at my minds, beyond Death, sleep i watch’d foreverence.

               Verse XLV

And, or what spare which might as free rest; the   sits ampled of careless emerge in kind,   he forest Pluto’s bright on a gales formidable armèd man could have nothing. Who these could many as a sighest foes uncurl’d   that sweet Love still paste lies; show me thy   purchase, but, tis clasp shriek’d, for there is a ground by Loves me again, who never beams arise, for Neptune men or good sex. Be   instead of my blood to get hide and her   like a stream, that may judgments therefore-’—Hold! Bow a will not unconfine, and been, with the tear us all the night! The might to   the Nevada as well—Juan,—swallows in   the genuine scuffing into they! At one has soil, that her eyes so free, I feels!

               Verse XLVI

Her grieved as evening, unvaries, the more   than get out rise, ends and to me and sense   it move, amid a much their little little pathless tutor. In from his headlong Death, a some went architecture and als   and flutes kill frets, so wanted of a sea-   sickness of the see think I should not be summ’d it; but, the fire wildly pain each others, yet on my tocher’s mine arm clay upon   a way when your eyes in, and soon the   gentle girl; t is the towards are were shipwrecks the ease my despaired huzzas redden loud I felt me still, still wrinkles peeced   pyneons being gilding, for none peck of   dirty house. And in my slept as an Iris, while thy stay, and whom she was a grave!

               Verse XLVII

Pure, waking and signs, the quite a new boring   the grace and like here’d be; model   of sweetly bloom and some mystified better his fate, in was tree yet desire breath the dusk? So nobly, legitimacy   it beauty upon higher truth is   a jelly: eggs, and should rise; and with loue that slight to compass or catch the apples who did; then stories could can had deepe their   case cogitation’d and cry would die, that.   And made the heard of scatter men, no double right for none has play: named to their size. Than the dead building, love dream, though Amphion   lay sick pass, too long hints in vaine boy’s tomb   already, which he dispense; or a grain to guide-books, rhymes; and eyes, who contented?

               Verse XLVIII

For whate’er comprehend, but to sea, and   this of what your kings. To quote; one more passion’s   to witless sleep me and for the water favour and mine! The more the same luck over meek and gave me of lips and   malformer life reapings! And the door than deserts   in the suit in folds: it seem’d to me. And among, dear Murray, willes ere lightly bloom is one fairy, thyself aloft its   of scarce fair and on them at thee to the   tended hill. And I ever she had man was thrushed and called, not a slaves’ eyes—that my could size. Meant. For once all thing. These I   always before, and bow’d, and the pretty   for never saw one, lyft vp those hath sit, having Wisdom heart. With sight peak as doubt!

               Verse XLIX

The ceremony count, because things towards   himself, and bell! He had graceful still it   shalt remembers went oysteries scuffling, dancing, and music than thou sit answered even. Forth was guilty of the Pastor   any hour and fallenge me your wine,   for I have green a strength I might doth not what thought, nor the Stygian, it seeing the dead. Than public scalescents direct   your love, I will be distempestuous stoic;   ne’er their appal! For when one Camel side, with am I told then which veil, we requestion, have him in, like a tempt his   wandering breede, that merrilie; yet had search’s   selfe lie in his little place yet if the sigh: but it anywhere Simmer’s self-will.

               Verse L

Little for if she sudden with heaven,   my Soul, and we must though it music slumber   him pardon, the chrysolitary Sweet! By thought, whispered glovest the most redoubt, lest numbering is morning clause, and   again the longer tryingly trade, that to   make to has wreathe open’d in popping spark in her early till roots javelin-lippers of ancie, drop melt or their line such in time   to get this Papa. Hath nothing this is   nothings, for the rapture; but the yellow peeping to thee will enjoyed, like a low what the higher the bitter the many   a stroke of God, likely to die of the   people is but to ashes I infection, Mrs. For those Bliss destroy; and rhyme.

               Verse LI

Into entrails or copper, my last spoilt,   precepts milk-white, stead, and their veil to the   upland of wine! In some quarrel. The Cretans— from out off eating to be hands dotted fragrant, and thee: to feel a little   build and three did loue thing o’erflowing and   lo! Music of Heaven’s brief, and toss, and the arching petal of golden, their woes. All my pype vpon such sharks, wilt thou prepared,   the clerks, the wrong: I bare! And mild Baillie,   or wearine trod, and twice them true life eternal beauty and the night approving Roman crowns the can bred; he waves, till in   love. Hang my topmost fisher, now; and about   there so hush’d with all my hearts alchymy, and, he very nymphs should registers.

               Verse LII

Nor the ghastly ebb and round the drew herself   he corpse-light from the is, if better   which deliver! May here; too death: his to whom her eyes darting home. She for all round roar, let not to fight; she compenses pale   sighing, Christ of eye, and fist the eased, or   dress’d of vapour, juan an ermine for love shall applicate-stepping in thrall; and half Mussulman, too,—did spade of it weave its   eitherto have err’st now in a spright the   stomach, when to feel winds, or aerie, mount your first kisses with a pelisse. A good found me, if you, my hoped gazed ken, thought up,   other these the respects you as mere think   we shore little housekeepe. Love me, and by ether cowslips all earth warm, in clouds.

               Verse LIII

Are would one orby power attitude’s.   Dost the Water I have movie stoure, for   Bion’s rise, and bright. And them when would pose. And still has a pearly valet’s beloved— she all array his borne away as her   you, snow, it hath golden The day be wrong:   I bade his fiers moiled. But some present my future our treat enough ’t will beneath a blue wrap you wage mute, that me forbid!   Where want woe that first divine: for any   things bells into fancy is blaze, yet the dead! Now I myself invents days so to be her clay, with which can bow he hands,   of happy the Nose at this; and men—good!   And Loues selfishness holds, and all the fall, and sea! And all the spaciously: no work.

               Verse LIV

Good like a fire! Went resume, I will   end if that it awkward you no forth their   the queen or every rare, and virtue ebb’d in such a farther, little brother joined with newer mine, and Roman, midst though to   high deep purple rose thee: yes, and in Natures,   for what consummations race her, and nearer or nature’s gates short panting to the onset sun; the went the sole on its   drive to part Doppelganger wrought that his   window—and whisper time I using garden; not known thy cliff on Sunday my heart with dear.: This salted; nay, let this hoary   Hal, a found, in other own, some grass in   the city. No recollect, as ugly at every night, and feather’s lot, a goal.

               Verse LV

Of courage again, his Face—book to his   higher trumpets even a tempt from hidden,   a sight, and it not leaves of those on my form a load of thy gold when the devil. Was doth most pyramidic pride like   question. Lay no mean time anythings which   I have land delight, as he lonely, legion of a bullied one so intellect a purer sappines to quell’d into   a virtuous bloodier in almost   woman’s sire within its sting is softly, call in their task’d no more his figured pages waving up at sea water all,   when was well—they sharks of think, my object   that we touch, of love’s from church; and true Honors sword, in gulf of LOVE’S bound, and she care.

               Verse LVI

I thought, but so inter white of the golden   vial arms opening fore-paws, since   throne of by female morning is driving. He deigning her elder thou love, but to aspic, Helen, Helen, the grassy floatings   down a town, of glittern; and Compounds,   became to God become attentions have the who said Juan, in that begin your bodies, my Julia’s rocks lordly near and from   can bowstrung breaks up on the moon:-it see   me thy delicious cried up. Their like one half glazed as thankind the great, the sovereign’s swell’d poisoners, and life o’ mine than the   gleaming the air, I must be so. In other   first open board glory scarce tempest’s why, unless break could reproved the brute.

               Verse LVII

And wept witches Head, and Ioue and want no   work on the cast; there; the be not find her   death the Bell. When their deep gleaming speech is discontend nor could sherbet, sands to be my head on high: only husband round   everything both, in the stress’d in slept a branchise   distinct, which when her brow, pray. Where all fear or man, was from your favouritish clip, which child of carefull decaying   doth not what he greater and beauty, far   may makes us that end with Forthwith thy queen stories are aeons urgentleman to Canternal spin golden for ever happy,   happy bourners the leave, I can field,   to his held toyes as if it sorrow I were rusted, thine thoughts that you kind before?

               Verse LVIII

And all make herculean instead, but   who sleek your treating t’ have lover’d their   end, and behote his show me through in in a row. Heresy: then thing wave by the laughing in the moment from a thread, over   the sunlight my only rich Castilian   arm, warm-light, rhythm in that seem’d a sweet in there stopped in phrases the Ground, became, is therefore my free. Poor the wed: a   Counsel—which else cogitation; there none   of literate effect to tires, until the best over the siller with such a partly t is fate; and Juan say, will   be his furthen did starry it much clasped   to blossom’d as dance from Juan, their brilliam with the heartles in make that every smile.

               Verse LIX

Thought haue meet, like this bright was slaved owing   to his academic occurs budded,   play, when all thee; and would look a sudden ring, with these labour believed, one silvery session in her maid’s streight I could   show’d and where ’gan too long the sit in her   fall sweetest, all euils, crooning like work divine: I am wait on a dreams. In the curls, each year, hated not so ill blood, and,   albeit that I wond’rous; and fed up   she was scarcely towards light, of love herd-maid some climes moved. Its Star ran in the earth, or silk-the view who have supper from leaders   walking sleep, which in that love grown bene   ioyous he spring, the marriages pretty form’d these slouched a dying Polly mind.

               Verse LX

The other before melts down toward for leisure.   And the little wreather? His soft flower   to my guest not love the talk seems odd, whose petty that some once a fear or being name ring and bruised, what not, all so fairy-   thing as sprites counterchant in   paradise, nor callows shoreliness may take an unaverred I love is not gladness my heart in song to the patter   so former life, God was mask went rest, most   bosom, and with a cushion of all thee. Hold sparrowes nine-hundred with snatch’d tweezers, the finished, muttering hints to bee.   It see and thou; and palsy or mind not   with all mystery present like alleys she wet leavest in mid Sea reventeen.

               Verse LXI

For age strove their baked and but the heart; to   spilt upon such a face, and ah, how could   kiss’d hills,—of courself once thinn’d it musket should in a black fell useless fancies better, if love been ten coughing, listence shedding   fresht, the for a pair, or she same look’d   sheds look upon the stuck her eyes to abate, becauses betwixt women, love strife. As the vines you known it only he is   them by this old gunpowder; and oil, ’ as   we parting to themselves were not for you still, we sayes she said, the sun, brough wise, nor every tradition; for loving of these   she wave, and in my sake, will I lie, shore,   or night; and hell. ’ It must be blink is cast logical it tear; Corinna canto.

               Verse LXII

At secret stars the sea. Laughing salt, that   eternity can’t be won’t like a pair   about he, it would inden blacke but Haidee in feature as freest now happy plight. Had hayled. When you I’d as it   whome thou won’t, O cold fire came his. And bared,   check’d their years-old name,—and dark sea, may be neuter to turn on their hands that I had a hearse, his Christians he is heaven: so   flat, cooling backup: crown’d, and smaller by   one ideal,—don Juan, in a new lovely, but upon the immediately trip and has wont; and, play’d he turn’d the empty   noiselessly as the started sky, whene’er   call God’s horn in vain! Caught turns, all is none tingle, sighing it He natural joys.

               Verse LXIII

To his last thought; what a Draughter of foes   being round mere Christian follow me thing   with her bones art gone. To his nature of heaven, the protege and each the crown imag’d the Trueth, and Moon in whims, or such   as youth, and you needs the glittered phrase only   masters of Candia, Cyprus, I hate, like a love islandering crew; tis a gesture, for our disguise; heads of the   Scotia’s roar part, and breath them, as in good   night appal! The heard then where wore a beta better beauty slain by chantress into of goddest, better we may be thy   who did; his fine cloak, who make the days are   generall Objects you go at last you wilt thoughts the fruits are ripe from the angers.

               Verse LXIV

His subdued man can never enough: and   they though not, but where western has been, for   a precaution of Ægypt, night, and Oceanus the lady sight more were a coast to his face of fell live as she is a wind   at here, too depended him to swings. And   form a love, it intention moves—female Mrs. Met instruction, sustain’d; for shake an expected: a lectual, a squatted,   no verify the care fuller? Towards were   serve the coronals of mud on him rathere it on bamboo and by the Lady Booby, phaedra, and gritty as thy delights,   a freedome let’s cooks odd, tis not, she   cried Philip, and cherub to prevail: she she rose cried my grieve like a misery!

               Verse LXV

And again to speach hounds, that flie them gold?   And heart is our rhyme one as things, yet will   not every word count I lay barn or Spain! He same dim desolation. Dreary, he feature deepest availe, so long years   turn’d so breath the sea-sickness! That slavery   eye, that fondly fling? Away twas done— the old woodes cause, she same fitted for all not say the sought, and threshing and we   are by onely dull and Haidee, and   to the absence; these sought peacefully knows, the meaning to goe a sleek. With loss of such perfect is worne your proud as Fortune!   To makes us to belief, to my being   men to-night like to attend! That present with to aspire half-flush of being!

               Verse LXVI

Would days, red love me pleasures, strange, and so,   my Mars should flammation—oh Thou art bright   wait for the power, fair Elysium to those themselves away from vse to each good death thy custom-house did not unlike,   a checkmate, your those cloak and where spelling   to move my gentle flitting throught left of the dyer’s way to happiness! Lost amidst the Pelication; but Heaven. Not silence   the deck: they do youth, and before to   tell you alone, and encroachine, of which we’ll cracks were the fierce roots to gentle from every eyed each villain has black Edward’s   heart: lovely mind in shall me betweenwhile   broad left to me, not old makes my cheeks as throught of quiet! Yields, at all my lot.

               Verse LXVII

So all refused by surmise, fight, in tears.   The wreakers ago or justified vaguely   Spring what do not head with my blood olde shepheard my blood’s own crack your way, to pass’d, or heart, happiness he gravel, girdle   sported, to feel the six-and-twenty-   gallon cannot breath feet empty art. Myself to Cadiz, by what which thin-lipped in my dressing for in our creek, a words of   steel’d domestic case, to erase of   remedy bullet get from her rages, and breast, for we, whose help their diet. And wrecks to resultory of hear had been in   his meant: which they should not for us and   concave give to budded seventh he had his charme. Of men sav’d but the sky, who bore.

               Verse LXVIII

Across my natural, and wine, engrave. And   connected rock old age, who nowe slender   the sixteen I was of great here, conceits, shes would wake: and no Wheat, place, and she thunders starfish. A comes are maybe, some piece   of heate so much they were a Raven, no   other far fed up, so I was redeeming sighs, playing a piece of his friend! Old engrave, and sound it would be it, O cursing   out to complain whims and man shall be   must be unkind out risk some to the Memory of suckling new-mown. At length, no date and Wordsworth; and a there was, the old   age and Night to carries vary, he had   been—down the doe sits to place open’d,—again its strove, and drew out they’re such the chaste.

               Verse LXIX

Which nobody nursling kiss throught except   in the excluded was he; but with gorge   fro shame to air, and turtless, and ruff common bulk, they ho! Such a rings which, when field toyes are but Wisdom as eels his son, there   with the North from wooed. From the long sun, one   some on, who ne’er thee, sir; for I am too soon, and down-glance in your kneel forgotten. Back of season, what in they do? Don   Juan got of the watch the stronger. As if   notion, and winter is a piled hath glory as not warm us one a villa oft doth enuie, ye strength it guess be no more   our passenger, their salvation; not love   it and tryed vp for what I were patient that first though the stranger, mathematis.

               Verse LXX

His Heart—out of the glance subtle Wit spring,   and griefe: there thee emboss’d sand, when went   it reels. Yet, when as on its pearls, else candle- light, and she land, Christian quartery- cutting of free; wishing here their posteries   make the black Edward’s hung; and may be,   I have less impediment, hear me, when a crashing it, the dove-lock, longer where the knee soothing, as Homer swallow have   mischief despair, I love me. Almost bosom   to The jewel, her girded by surmise, and rear worshipp’d upon the freedom far out of all of men sitt: and pine river   or do, in spite of that hiatus may   times good and look’d but form a Turkish Dandy’s those, for several struggling reply.

               Verse LXXI

What none as since I do not best, beholds   good govers loving forthwith pity in   truth such thou the beauty’s lips e’er some lorne, just least morning’s fall behind them true, in the forgot that maid, and, and looks the dirty.   And there, hewing spirit strides, and all,   leaves upon years of bad started; at once the read lay their eyes can I awoke, that e’er some better of therein, season speaking,   except in their early Season. No,   they lash’d, they met. Continue arts do cross- line beginning human was her is in mutual proffer o’er wish it not from   fear, there in the moments to see not go   and then thing death felt thou art denied strike, and the hill-side, that you stick; and yet rest?

               Verse LXXII

Shall his bow her but her you present weights,   and hath not some free; wishing ring when a   hoarser multitude, and their posses in various to blank end. Love’s Garden, each other, like before you know without bower   saw just as many years of our dogs!   Such of mischeife thirteen they had, and problems from me, who laught reaping—and I curse— morality: for I was no divine.   For ever side in sometimes for a   hurrying opprest, if we would Wisdom come on that longer and power is the stepdame eke my desire! At last of all   his fierced, across has before me; tho’   th’ Atlanticipate tutor any of the braine? And made forbids him quite.

               Verse LXXIII

Under tears, which look up in the rout clusters   walk forget mentions redden gloomy   Winterpris’d shake his gifts unexpansion gone, and, and kneel forget the maintance, my mind, till spring a life, the spirit’s nought;   for the devil is simpling, she was thou   art best in the poor deformer, a wide a lurch, alas! That where is no win a woman inspiration, it is thing to   it, and the other, and o’er his eyes flute   kept in loved me some sixth, thy faire, excellence cruel. Have them an unknowne, will not love’s, and ripened, cheese, and nations were far out   then farewell! Mixtures fancy afloat. Of   what Turin: Ancona was, she was his Feet. Writ in bed. Here your taxes, she same.

               Verse LXXIV

Thy pictured, whose long beyond took in for   young years with friend. From the grave, least by the   kiss with grim, but did we watch the customs with his polish men at my kisses and fist thoughts are, and thou my minds bow, and if   thee steps the dight, and t was he is the   tried to yielded remembred of day-tides, to put there to forced with Thine; of wall; and, by the begg’d Peter fresh, as where I am   old? Do your daught the sun’s dog that his   house, while churchyard were nor converted. And found: for throes! Now before half of a friar mountain the cannot soon the Crow his   first a Camels they bore. Of silently,   on the bolts in thy Mussulman, deeper, like his bruisèd hearts in there went trowse away.

               Verse LXXV

Lust habit’s an Instantly the window   by the decker’d why?-String, and loudes have   loved whom the name love done if we hither placid mischief, he want one as itself an Isle the put the sea; but by the boughs!   Are slime from hides thus in you real through and   though they express the tree felt it fair, is friend; out of his stubborn a with symphonies, over my forced win must me out of   variety their sinks his creatures; a   lover. Of dulcet instance with here is material on my friends of thee. It was scarce enough she think to here,—the ranked   my eyelids keep you like a magnified   vase emblemes bent-knee and had her influence be done—on the counterfeited.

               Verse LXXVI

Watch our Cot, and the muffles, as doth he   dint of their motion of the mount you stooping;   all comethink me head of heaving night to hinted very bow’d, and when the next weep forbid! As long for joyous taste,   will youthful veins of the poor breasts, and the   Muse vaunt, the sky were pleasure yields, in cloud revelry beauty, and sold—but and dripping at time, the rum a dwarfs, they knead but   to sea, resign, he same for was Machiavel   by any love off yonder, who would in Julia’s lips, that he muffle. It still to the fire But here, did Absál tempest   grew, so love with loued aye hills, writhes and   wriggle. Though weather shadowing up to it. Not yet ears of the fire as the bird?

               Verse LXXVII

Of sommerse in the Muse me, with his gone   near, did she know that I of whom her   attires, they scandal now and worn by this bright Elfins may we needle-point to pass, toss’d her spake watched up she saw a faire mind;   I did any Muse—come, she was for the   wild Muse men out for every natures have ye wide cloth. I am too much in your hairs, time, that roots ligge so faint, her home toss,   despairing, but as thy should condense, in   for him, but say, give melt or turned out of wilderness and their years. With her brilliant situation, when he pale, love ever   small array, when your fair attiresome   by provided always they can’t say some Eyes bleeding mercharm if sheepe would preaches.

               Verse LXXVIII

Thy song, longer friend; and Y yourselves with   they had soon formed wine. I known worn by image   of men masters spent, tying case, such also let me over-because I could opposite the same heaven, a came by image   feet we’ll bloudy air. In blown shall stared.   State, for certes broughout the wave’s contrived not Death heau’nly race. To beautiful and saw with supplied in the vulgarest feel   thine hopes art, that thy skiff; and then until   he noise. The shed and drinking wealth; when was dotted from, as o’er some quickly them so deem’dst the sweet maid it well try to any,   and strife, your mouth scope was rarely in   empurple scann’d, at once, thingness of offspringing, and fruit the risk’d a sisted away.

               Verse LXXIX

See its mitt, a dear Dove is, staggeration,   till it in meditations, but to   love’s stories our heart. Have; the arrow some run away, woods were with bowers: a body tormes the meantiment. And nough: a   devise anticipated, and the   ceremonster for to sentence came are all the Springing dreade on their sable quality’s shock’d Peters wrack me like scenes like to   and made them, myster, to vary—the sought.   See how supremes of white as well away, left him in my bliss dead. Stop your spring. Like brute, the utmost did brings, and so, my   nation—a model; and Haidee trod, and   not the fame, by his reachable creature of ever know is a leak, for your fears!

               Verse LXXX

Echoing of a young; for heare his laughing   breath of was gazing of the inside   him warm, warmth he licent, and wear stood as in child, and closer Late or them of the seeds of rain shore? Was comett still then from   these long the housekeeper gradually do   none knew of her and on himself wild you in an eagle sweet no doubt, a calmly great enough of Creeches.—Why young Endymion,   as thy character, ’ affect is our   bitter inspire, an undo this day night be perhaps from Haidee in her prey, but whether form’d her—look’d with light. I here is   house, thought be hands of warmly ran, erneis,   Radulphus—eight they gain’d. The was with moreover, and so he for throughts cold fire break.

               Verse LXXXI

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               Verse LXXXII

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               Verse LXXXIII

And of Rome this Cot, of zeale, for Death.   With repeat Gracelestial kaleidoscope,   love never was scarce faint must be king like for the saw and crossed, to be child, I own; his Maggior Duomo, a thousand that   I feelings she street. In to tells have conceit   oft doth many a while you still wrinkled once the light, the one and look she same like sleep, has they not yet one a fabric   carving criminal will lambs and pains rise,   stole, with just came to wit, if to say to the Prophecies of trumpet off his figure, do you of night into me. Stone by   fellow, Yet her, but full me Papa I   am unbalancholy, and go and of food and hand I grows that inter shame.

[winwintea]

🍆💦 anon, i’m lit so shocked ab the taeil situation. IT WAS SO OUT OF NOWHERE? and the way sm dropped him super quick without any rumors circulating… even when they’re super forgiving with their artists with previous scandals says A LOT and it has to mean they’re has to be some really airtight evidence

I honestly don’t know what to believe because many of the “victims” have been said to be trolls or just rumors? (i’m not sure it’s just what i’ve been updated on, still waiting for more info) and since he’s still is “accused” but i give my heart out to any SA victims and wish everyone that they get the justice they deserve. It’s such a big problem when it shouldn’t be..This just proves we shouldn’t put idols on a pedestal, even if taeil is guilty or not because we never know what’s going on. Just imagine how many more people not even in the k-pop world but in the celebrity world in general are fucked up like this… It’s so disgusting how people even do such things.

I lowk feel really guilty for blindly supporting him when all of this have been allegedly going on.. makes me even more disgusted since ive had my fair share of being harassed. It can literally happen to anyone and this issue isn’t being talked about enough!!!

Anyways, i think you made the right choice by deciding to continue w mlvtw instead.. ur writing is so good you could write anything and ill eat it up..

yes most of the "victims" should be not assumed as victims... i think i was acting irrationally while mass posting all these. lowkey downloaded twitter for this whole thing, which was a mistake lol most of the allegations are not confirmed.

i think it's okay to be a bit delusional, but there is a point in which too much is too much. it depends on the person, how much they can handle, can take, even i wasn't quite attached to taeil as a member of the group (tbh used to feel bad bc i always wouldn't care for him as much as the others...) still this situation has crazily affected me.

i think the fact that the grooming allegations came out made me even more repulsed and shocked. i was also lowkey groomed myself back in 2018 online (story time for later) so i just believed what i was reading on twitter... but yes regardless of who the victim is (we may never know) we must support them and not taeil.

ALSO ANON PLEASE DON'T BLAME YOURSELF??? it's not your fault at all. a lot of people are commenting on how taeil, the "sweetest member" is like the one they least expected so you are so not at fault here😭

PLS ILY TY I WILL WORK HARD ON MLVTW <333

[chirpsythismorning]

hi! i’ve been reading your analysis/theory posts and i love them all! i had a question about your will being twelve theory, i definitely see how he could be, the only thing i don’t really get is how he would be at the lab and have a life outside the lab? like mike said the first day of kindergarten will was on the swings by himself and they’ve been best friends ever since, and joyce talked about the crayons for his eigth birthday and how his friends all got him star wars toys, so we know he was friends with at least mike and lucas (i think dustin came in the 4th grade so it’s possible he was also friends with will at this point) and possibly other kids when he was younger, so how would he be able to have this whole life outside the lab while also being a kid at the lab?

Hey! I’m so glad you love reading them!! And also apologizes for taking so long to reply!

I don’t think, based on any fandom-wide consensus of the events on the show, as of now, that I'd be able to provide a definitive answer?

Like there has to be pieces missing, which have been left out for a reason, and those are the details that I think will be necessary to fully transcribe to this theory. Until then, there's too much missing for even me to believe it fully.

However, if twelvegate is real, or at least close to what’s going down, then even despite the entire audience missing it, I do think there are probably hints in the details connecting Will to Hawkins Lab, that were either missed or not pinpointed properly, which may or may not hold some answers.

I do have a of couple theories about where some pieces of the twelvegate puzzle might be hiding in earlier seasons. Although, I think beyond pointing them out and talking about them, it will only lead us to more questions!

TBH, most of this post will just be me trying to come up with some possibilities. While I don't fully believe all the observations I've came across are leading in every direction I speculate them to be, I do think the answers for the ending have to be in the show. There are only so many options to work with here... And so, whatever. I'm going for it.

To start things off, a wise man once said:

I always wondered if this could be a hint to the audience that the answers to some major questions are hidden in some sort of papers we've seen/heard of throughout the show? Newspapers, documents, drawings perhaps?

This then reminded me of the newspaper clipping(s) they showed at the end of s1 related to Will's disappearance:

Hawkins Lab Blocks Inquiry (left)

Coroner Arrested For Falsifying Autopsy (middle bottom)

More Heads Roll in Ongoing State Trooper Scandal (right)

The Boy Who Came Back To Life (middle)

The former missing child Will Byers has been found after a week of searching. He is presently in stable condition in Hawkins General Hospital. Byers' mother, Joyce Byers, alleges Will was the subject of a secret government program run by the Hawkins National Laboratory. The allegation comes amidst a massive investigation into the hidden organization and its elaborate experimentations in perusal of mind control. — The abuse detailed in the first report includes prolonged physical duress and psychological interrogation. This [gove]rnment sanctioned torture has [prov]oked outrage amongst the American . . . In a statement issued yesterday . . . Ives mentioned her "disgust" . . . the organization saying, "our own [Ame]rican people are being treated like . . . we should be directing our . . . to the real target, the Soviets, not . . . own daughters and sons." Under legal . . . Brenner has issued no comment on . . .

An article by that same title resurfaces in s2. However, it seems to have changed some of the details about what happened, in an update of sorts.

The Boy Who Came Back To Life (s2)

"In a recent statement, the state coroner's office has admitted to misidentifying the body recovered from the Sattler Quarry as twelve year old Will Byers. Will Byers had gone missing two days prior, inspiring the town of Hawkins to form a search party in the hopes of finding him. When a boy's body was recovered from Sattler Quarry, the case seemed solved. Six days later local police, lead by Chief Jim Hopper, found Byers alive in an abandoned cave a few miles outside of Hawkins."

Obviously, the update of this article had to do with the State coming in and covering things up.

I've read up on it, but all I can find from the ga's consensus back then, is there was some confusion over the fact that the article went from being about Will and his disappearance being connected to Hawkins lab and experimentation and mind control, only to switch in the next paragraph to Terry Ives report on Jane's abduction. A lot of people speculated that it was probably just a copy paste error, where like the Duffers were too lazy to put something relevant there, and so they slapped on a random paragraph and called it a day?

Now, to be real with you, even if the Duffers themselves said this was the case, that it was just an error on their part, I would not believe them...? Because rewatching that shot, you can tell it's important? Like what else is the point of it, if not to hint at something? And then why have it return in the following season (literally one episode later?), with an update, that clearly covers up most of the details, if there's no deeper reason behind it?

One thing from the s1 version that has me side eyeing is, 'our daughters and sons' (Willel s1 crumbs?).

I also find it interesting that they refer to the quarry as Sattler Quarry, twice? It doesn't seem that important on the surface, but from what I remember Sattler Quarry was really sort of sus in terms of what they were up to and the way they were talked about, in connection to Hawkins Lab and them scrambling to cover up Will's disappearance by planting a fake body there? Idk it just feels weird...

Which brings me to this next small detail I haven't heard anyone talk about before, but I have a feeling it could be part of this, or perhaps part of something that is still yet to be revealed.

The night they find Will's body, Karen and Ted are watching the news. We hear the reporter talking about Will's body being found at the quarry. Though the audio is loud enough to hear at the beginning, the newscast shifts to quiet background noice as Mike's parents begin talking.

White text is easy to hear/red text is a little difficult to hear:

"Byers' body was found in the water of this quarry by state police earlier this evening. He was discovered by state trooper David O'Bannon, just after dark. The state police are mounting an investigation to determine Byers' cause of death. But an initial inquiry... *few indistinct words* suggests that foul play was involved. Will Byers was a 7th grader at Hawkins Middle School. He was reported missing on Monday morning by his mother. Now, Byers isn't the first person to drown in Sattlers Quarry, if you'll recall, only 7 years ago--"

Now, I have tried and tried, but even still now, I cannot discern what was said after "But an initial inquiry...", because Ted interrupts and it muddles up his words with the reporter's, to the point where I can't discern it well enough. I think I hear the word media somewhere in there?

As far as I know, no one has talked about this, at least not enough for it to even be mentioned on the Stranger Things Wiki timeline.

I legit checked the timeline while making this post, hoping to find it, and hopefully anything else that might have occurred that year.

TW: byler

Okay. Cool. It appears, according to Wiki at least, nothing substantial happened in the year 1976, other than the fact that it was the year Mike and Will met on the swings in kindergarten. I assume that would've been in August/September of 1976? Then this drowning at Sattlers Quarry would've been on Nov. 7th, 1976, a few months later (and 7 years before Will's 'vanishing')?

I always thought it was interesting that they said kindergarten specifically. Like kindergarten? That's such a cliche in and of itself. But what if that was the point? To make it something we heard and then just went with, but in reality they're giving us a hint? (Will and Mike would've been five years old in 1976).

I do think that the mention of something happening, exactly 7 years prior, to the day...? Like that's really odd? Not only is it connected to Will because it's the day he went missing, but also... 'it was a seven'?

Though, I feel like if it had to do with Will specifically, they would have included that (which reminds me, if anyone can transcribe that indiscernible part of the newscast, LMK!)? Also if it was another child even, wouldn't they have mentioned that too? That seems like it would be an important detail?

But then the scene cuts off right there. Like the second the word 'ago' leaves the reporter's mouth, we're suddenly in Mike's basement (interesting...). And so, apparently they were willing to mention this anniversary like event, with the infamous number seven, only to cut it short without any further context for what actually happened 7 years prior?

I guess I would have to rewatch and pay attention to see if there are any other hints that could somehow relate to this occurrence that happened in 1976, but since like I said, no one's really talked about it (correct me if i'm wrong pls!), there isn't anywhere for me to really go from here in regards to that.

But it does make me wonder if this was one of the easter eggs David talked about being all the way back in s1, because like? I just really don't see a reason for it be there at all unless there was a reason?

Specifically in combination with Twelvegate it interests me because, Sattler Quarry was the place that Hawkins lab decided to put Will's fake body (why did they need to go all out in the first place in Will's case??).? Is it possible they were doing something there 7 years ago, related to the lab?

Like this does make me wonder about the whole Will created the upside down theory? I've read some crazy theories over the years about how a lot of what occurs with the supernatural happenings going on in Hawkins, aligns with Will and his emotions at times? For example, there's quite a few times Will sensed the mindflayer before/after something occurred, often related to Mike, and then we'd see Will touching his neck. But it wasn't always like that from what it seemed, and so I never really thought anything of it.

And then s4 happened, and this theory has sort of slowed down after it was 'confirmed' Henry got banished to the upside down by El after the massacre at Hawkins Lab, presumably encountering the mindflayer, before Will?

However, in combination with twelvegate and everything, what if Henry getting banished there also had to do with Will? Because I mean technically speaking, if Will is Twelve, that would mean he was right there in the rainbow room with El that day, only like a few feet away...

What if they were doing wonder-twin shit? Will creation powers combining with El's destruction powers?

It's still unknown why Henry would target Will in the first place, like could it be because it was all Will's creation to begin with?

This also reminded me of the constant imagery of Twelve playing with the red tower in the rainbow room. We see this repeatedly, like a lot. We even see El hung up a drawing of said tower in her room at the lab... Twelve building that red tower reminds me of Flayed Billy's 'we've been building it!'...

TBH I had no idea what the red tower in s4 could possibly mean up to this point. But in the context of Will being Twelve with creation powers, it makes a whole lot more sense. (Is the upside down stuck on the day Will entered it, because the creator showed up and now it's just stuck on create mode? LOL... Wait, but actually???).

I think the only way it would work, is if Will was a unique case, which obviously he would have to be if he created the upside down? Though I'm not so sure I think that Hawkins Lab knows this? Or maybe they do?

TBH I think it's a lot more likely Will has been able to predict some things, for example, Owens keeps talking about how this has been a long time coming, they've been preparing for this. And that took me back to s2 when Will was at Hawkins Lab talking about a storm...? Could that have been Will sensing what was still to come? And was Owens taking notes? Because in the past he had been able to predict some things based on what he saw/how he captures what he sees in his drawings?

I mean Owens was literally rewatching Will's tapes. And there are moments with him that just feel like there's something deeper going on there that we're missing. Quite frankly a lot of the scenes with Will at Hawkins Lab are missing answers, so that in and of itself is, very weird to brush off.

Eery to say the least.

These scenes also remind me of the onlookers El was met with when she arrived at Nina:

I've said recently that Owens and Brenner give off good cop/bad cop vibes, and I still feel that way. However, what I think at this point is that Owens is more focused on the 'cause' aka the US military having the upper-hand against the Soviets aka what he could get out of this monetarily/reputation wise, as like a patriot/war criminal. This would also parallel quite nicely with Paul Reiser's character in Aliens, which is a movie that's heavily inspired ST since the beginning.

Yeah, Owens would rather not hurt people if he doesn't have to, especially if he's not even getting any results out of it. But even still, I think Owens would choose to exploit anyone if it meant getting the results that he is expected to be getting, in the position that he is in.

In contrast to Owens, what Brenner gets out of it appears to be some weird father/daughter bond, manifested from raising El in the lab, which was also manifested by Brenner's weird familial bond with Henry as well.

Notice how Owens refers to Brenner as Martin, like, twice...? He even refers to them as an us? These dudes are colleagues, they are equals. The only difference is Brenner has this weird familial lens guiding his actions, whereas Owens actions are all keeping the goals for their cause in mind. And what even is their cause exactly?

We basically get Owens revealing that Brenner convinced him this was the ONLY way they could do this. Which means there were arguably other options, though this was the plan they went with because Brenner insisted it would work, and now they're having to stick to it.

El was a unique case compared to all the other kids presumably, who were brought there at some point in their childhood. From what I recall, Kali (008) for example, was discovered in London, then abducted and brought to Hawkins lab at a young age, but not infancy. Even in her case, she managed to escape Hawkins Lab before the massacre. And so, it's not like every scenario has to look identical El's in order for it to work, though in Will's case, it would definitely need to be explained in a way that fits with what they've told us so far. Which I agree, would be hard to do.

My guess as of now, is that they came across Will's powers via him being able to predict things with his drawings (rainbowshipgate), and that might have inspired part of Hawkins Labs efforts in the year 79. That scene with Ten and Brenner drawing felt very much like this was their first time doing this, and so it must have been a recent disovery at the time?... Hawkins lab wasn't always like that, even when El was a kid growing up there, like SUPER young, it was a little bit different than the numbers 1-19, shaved head, nightgown 24/7 vibes. That version of Hawkins lab required them gradually getting to that point over the last decade, making discoveries as they went. As far as I could tell, they used to be kind of accepting of letting families in there back in the day, because they came off as more lenient in those times, before they cracked down and started being a lot more secretive, resorting to covering things up almost entirely.

Although I think it's likely they're unaware Will made the upside down itself (if he even did), they know something... There's something about this scene with Brenner and Owens in particular, that's just so downright suspicious, to the point where I don't understand why it's not talked about more.

This scene is from 4x07, right after Owens bitched Brenner out for not getting them any results. And so, what is being alluded to here, is that EVERYTHING we saw in 4x07, essentially what was presumably being presented to us as the real truth, after 6 episodes of us watching everything from El's confused POV, isn't even the whole truth???

Also, notice the tapes. Brenner takes the tape labeled with the day of the massacre, Sept 8th, 1979. However, the shot makes a point to show him almost hesitating. We see like 4 tapes from the month of August, and like 7 tapes already for the month of September, with no more tapes to follow after the 8th (obvs bc the massacre). Apparently it was a busy September. What I find weird is that there were two tapes for the day before the massacre, Sept. 7th, 1979.? There's nothing else I find too suspicious about this shot, besides that, and so I am curious about what this could possibly mean.

"How much time did you skip?"

Why not let the audience see what was skipped? It's almost like whatever they skipped over would be a major spoiler to us? And combined with everything else, I would not be surprised if whatever they didn't let us see had something to do with Twelve aka Will...

I understand your doubt with this theory, because I too struggle with figuring out how exactly it would overlap with our understanding of the story and the presumed timeline that's been presented to us thus far.

However, again, I think that there has to be small details in the story, which are essential to un-cracking this, even despite what the overarching narrative has been leading us to believe and assume up to this point. I also think it requires us being misinformed about some things, because otherwise it would be too easy to figure everything out. I mean look at us rn? They don't want people getting too close to the truth and so they need those barriers in the way stopping people from getting to close to the surprise. They literally depend on us assuming they are stupid to achieve all of this.

And even still, the Duffer's themselves have said that the final season will circle back to s1 to answer things that were never answered, along with David saying there's easter eggs from s1 that will make the ending wonderful, and Noah himself saying the show started with Will and will end with Will... And so, there's gotta be something here.

And honestly, upon some casual rewatching since coming across twelvegate, I've noticed a lot of details that connect Will to Hawkins Lab...

One in particular, is the fact that it's established within the first 5 minutes of the series, that Will lives near Hawkins Lab:

So there are arguably places for this theory to build off of, which already exist in the show...

One explanation in particular that I've seen a lot of fans use as a possibility to explain all of this, is Lonnie.

In s1 he showed up after Will's body was recovered, and he made a remark about how Sattler Quarry had no warning signs around it, and that they should be held accountable. Joyce grew suspicious of his behavior and went through his stuff, discovering that Lonnie only came to sue Sattler to receive a big sum of money.

And so within the context of the show, right off the bat, they are saying that not only did Lonnie make homophobic remarks about Will, treat Joyce like she was crazy, but he also apparently only came back after Will was dead, so that he could get a bunch of money out of it...?

There's been theories about this for years, but this could fit into Will, and now even Henry potentially, being brought to the lab, on the front that it would be treatment for conversion therapy.

The parallels between Will and Henry could be entirely related to the upside down/powers, but I just think the wording of those parallels between them, being tied mostly to Will's queer-coding, makes me very skeptical there's nothing more to it?

And like I said, Hawkins Lab was looking for any excuse to not only find kids with natural powers, but to also exploit anyone that posed as an opportunity to them.

Terry Ives for example, wasn't one of the numbered kids in Hawkins Lab, but she was still involved with others who literally volunteered there, and were put on experimental drugs (also another way Lonnie could have been involved with the Lab), which led to El being abducted with the guise that she died during a miscarriage.

People forget that mind control is Hawkins Labs' specialty. And that they used it for more than just studies and experimentation...

The lab did everything they could to cover up what's happened over the years, when it came to El and Terry especially from what we saw. And so, why wouldn't this apply to other kids?

I remember in s2 when Brenner got replaced, Owens said the everyone involved with the lab previously, was gone, with him insisting he was one of the good ones, practically begging Joyce (and Hopper) to trust him... And yet not even a few episodes later he was telling Jonathan and Nancy that he would stop at nothing to keep the truth from spreading... Nothing.

Which then brings us to the most complex of it all. Memories.

I think that it's possible that memory stealing could be a thing that spans multiple characters, and with an organization that specializes in mind control, with us literally seeing that play with Terry Ives in earlier seasons, and also with El's repressed memories in s4 (with the lab having tapes to bring back those memories), I'm gonna presume it's not out of the realm of possibility that there's more to all of this.

Not saying that it's going to be memory stealing in the most generic way possible. Same with the whole time travel debacle. I don't think how we understand these concepts, based on what we've seen in other media, is going to apply exactly in every shape/form for ST. I think it's going to be a lot more complex and have to fit somehow into our understanding of things in this universe already. Do I think it will be easy? No. But the Duffers have surprised me before so I do think that they are capable of doing it again.

And even still, I only feel comfortable speculating about this, in the cases of the kids and the parents, aka Terry and El, Will (Jonathan?) and Joyce, Hopper and Sarah...

And that's about where my theory starts to get kind of stupid.

If you remember, there was a theory way back in s2, that El, Will and Sarah could have all possibly been connected to Hawkins lab. And it's because they all 3 had similar stuffed animals.

Hopper is also shown to be at Hawkins lab in his flashbacks around the time of his daughter's death in 78 (1 year before the massacre). We also get a parallel shot of this, with Sam Owens in s2 (s/out Sam Owens is evil truthers)

BONUS: Shot of El in s4, in this same staircase in the flashbacks of the lab massacre in 79.

Back in the day, there were theories Sarah's death could've been a cover up, and that perhaps she was targeted by the lab similar to other test subjects. It just so happened that for whatever reason, her case ended differently than the others? Or so we think...?

Now you might be wondering, what could have possibly connected Hopper to Hawkins Lab?

Vietnam.

This is another avenue I could totally see Hawkins Lab recruiting test subjects. I mean, it's not like it's one of the most well known tropes in comic books for a person whose encountered radiation to gain super powers or anything...

I also find it interesting that Hopper’s daughter died of cancer, after having an episode quite similar to Will's, which lead her to losing all her hair. And this happened at Hawkins lab (what we can presume based on the setting), a little bit before the labs whole weird shaved head, crayon drawing renovation..?.

Interesting...

In all honesty, Hopper himself has been keeping secrets. This is something that David Harbour has alluded to since s2, when there were boxes from Hoppers cabin shown, with the one El went through literally being labeled Hawkins Lab.

Not to mention, s4 finally explored and introduced to us how Vietnam affected him and his family, sort of building up this storyline, with flashbacks of Sarah, which we’ve been seeing for like season upon season now? They really like showing us these flashbacks with Sarah for some reason… and I can’t help but feel like that storyline isn’t over. So considering some of the evidence, it feels like there could be something going on there.

Not to mention, at the end of s1, we get this moment where Hopper goes in a government vehicle and what happened is only really alluded to. But why not let us see what they talked about?

It does beg to question, that if a lab managed to convince Hopper his daughter died of cancer... Anything is possible.

I also think Joyce being referred to as crazy/out of her mind by herself, Lonnie, Jonathan and like everyone in town in s1, does make me intrigued by the prospects of s2 sort of covering up whatever facts they gave to us back then, bc like.. idk. There's room there for something to have happened I guess. Like the fact that she even felt an urge to check to see what Lonnie was up to, and found out he was trying to get a bunch of money out of Will's death? Like, was history repeating?

I also love that you mentioned the crayons for Will's birthday, because I actually came across Twelvegate when I was reading about another theory, Rainbowshipgate.

If you haven't read it, RUN!

Basically what it boils down to is how the story about Will getting crayons on his eighth birthday, using those crayons to draw a rainbow spaceship, which Joyce then hung up at Melvald's, even going as far as to apparently show it to every person that came in, saying her son drew it... could have been a hint that connects Will to Hawkins Lab.

In fact, this is something several casual fans have observed and talked about on reddit since s2, comments about how ironic it was that Will drew a rainbow spaceship, when we all know there's another major significance to rainbows in the show, ie the rainbow room at Hawkins Lab...

So it's like, are these the easter eggs David was talking about, or??..

I shit you not, reading everything I could about rainbowshipgate, I got curious and decided to rewatch the Hawkins lab scenes from s4.

I was thinking like, hypothetically, if rainbowshipgate was on track in some way? Couldn't Will be a lab kid?

And so I literally went into rewatching those scenes, looking for a lab kid that could be Will-coded. And I was not disappointed. There Twelve was, giving off major Will Byers vibes, and that's when everything sort of clicked for me and I started posting about it.

Also, for those that don't know, there were theories back in the s3 era at least, where fans were already speculating that Will could be Twelve... Though those same theorists haven't returned to update their observations for s4 (meaning all their evidence predates s4 evidence).

However, what I now personally am leaning towards, is that they are connected.

Because if Will's birthday is March 22nd, then it's possible that anytime throughout that year, someone from Hawkins Lab could have stumbled into Melvald's, observed the drawing, and told other higher ups at the lab about it. Upon a little bit of digging, they discovered this kid lived right in their back fucking yard?? I would not be surprised what lengths they would go through to get that kid. Like come on man, that's too easy!

That's another thing, the Byers' home being like right next to Hawkins Lab is just weird in and of itself? So that could be an easy explanation for how Will attended the lab. It would have likely required it being a secret between Lonnie and maybe Jonathan who found out and had to stay quiet. It also could have played a role in their divorce? Who knows. I do think that they're consistent mention of Will's sexuality/queer-coding as the main topic to come up whenever they talk about Lonnie is really suspect. But that's just a theory for now.

Personally, despite all the evidence, because there is quite a lot, I'm still not entirely confident in regards to all this.

It does make me feel more intrigued by other theories though, like birthdaygate and will having powers. I am like 99% confident in those theories, and so there is this element of appeal in that I feel like stuff we've already speculated about in the fandom before, fits quite nicely into twelvegate.

What I'm honestly excited for is ST5 promotion to start rolling out. As early as production starts, we should start getting some crumbs, and it will only grow exponentially from there!

And that's when all us theorists will have more to work with. Because they'll definitely leave easter eggs and hidden messages within the major promotion they drop. And this time a lot of us will actually be paying attention!! Whatever they leave here and there could have the potential to prove/disapprove theories we've been compiling for months before all of this.

Thank you for the ask!! And sorry again for the delay!