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People Loki canonically had A Thing™️ with (according to me):
-Sif (the series composer lowkey confirmed they had a night together before the hair cutting incident)
-Fandral (we all saw what we saw in T1)
-Theo Bell (I consider LWML to be partially canon & Loki having a thing with a human guy who he left on earth & was probably dead by the time he came back… definitely vibes w Loki’s attitude toward mortal lifespans in the movies.)
-The Grandmaster (no way he got out of gladiatorial slave duty just by telling jokes, plus the winky scene like come on now)
-the flight attendant from 1x1 (they were feeling each other so hard. & he told her he’d see her again)
-Lorelei (best one on the list tbh. She escaped using his secret pathways. She’s an enchantress that’s not his multiversal twin & is actually rly interesting. It’s all there.)
-Amora (also from LWML. Yes she’s probably Lorelei’s sister. No idgaf. Sleeping with an ex situationship’s sister isn’t exactly smth I’d put past him)
-Sigurd (he doesn’t exist in the mcu but the chemistry in AoA was so strong it’s transcended mediums. He’s Loki’s ex in the mcu, they just haven’t mentioned him yet shhhh)
#also: you can fight me if you want but it’s canon that he had the hots for Jane briefly#it’s also canon that he has a lust/disgust crush on Steve I don’t make the rules#he didn’t date them or sleep with them tho so that’s why they’re just honroable mentions#also none of these were actually RELATIONSHIP relationships so they don’t contradict his ‘I’ve never had anything rly real’ line in the show#the flight attendant was just a one time thing#the grandmaster was a transactional relationship#Fandral lorelei and Sigurd were just fuck buddies#and the romances with Sif Theo and amora all kinda crashed and burned before they had time to get started good so :/#also also: as much as I despise s*lvie & s*lki they absolutely did have a brief romantic connection in canon#like that’s just.. not debatable#dashingfrost#fandroki#lokimora#amoraloki#loki x amora#sifki#loki x the flight attendant from episode 1 who down to bone an active terrorist#loki x flight attendant#loki x lorelei#mcu lorelei#loki x Sigurd#frostmaster#Sigurd#the grandmaster#amora#Theo bell#loki where mischief lies#lady sif#loki series#loki season 2
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Witch references: Lorelei
As I continue having fun with finding the little references hidden all across Agatha's episodes, I keep finding lots of allusions to stories of alleged witches and women persecutions. They are just too delicious not to share and I wonder if there are any similarities we can draw between these stories and what we are seeing in the show.
In this post I will focus on the legend of Lorelei. I found her reference in episode 2, when Agatha enters her living room. There is a prominent painting on the wall to the left.
After some editing and searching I finally found it! The painting is called "The Lorelei" by Albert Pinkham Ryder.
The painting is based on a poem by Heinrich Heine:
"The Lorelei"
What is it that fills me with sadness And weighs down my spirits like lead? An old story that drives me to madness For I can’t get it out of my head.
Through the gorge, a deep river is flowing; The air cools, soon day will be done; Westwards, the cliff-tops are glowing In the rays of the setting sun.
And then, if you lift your eyes higher. You can pick out a figure up there: Her jewels are shining like fire, And she’s combing her long golden hair.
Her combing is slow and erotic, And so is the flow of her song: The melody’s strangely hypnotic, And her voice is compellingly strong.
The man at the helm gives a shiver As fear strikes his heart like a stone. He’s now blind to the rocks in the river; She transfixes his eyes with her own.
That then is the story’s sad ending. And the helmsman’s as well, I’d surmise; And if anyone’s case needs defending It is the Lorelei’s.
In her legend, Lorelei was accused of being a witch, because men lost their heads because of her. But even the priest was not immune to her charms, so he did not send her to death, but to the monastery. On the way to the monastery, accompanied three knights, she came to a rock above the river Rhine. She begged permission from her companions to look down on the river once more, to see where her beloved who had left her had gone. She threw herself from the rock into the deep, and her three companions jumped after her The cliff has forever retained the echo of its name.
So in folklore, Lorelei became an evil seductress who lives on a large rock above the Rhine River. Much like the sirens of Greek mythology, she beguiles sailors with her singing, luring their ships to destruction.
Lorelei's story is an example of a woman being persecuted for her looks, then turned into a femme fatale character, to suggest she was evil all along.
If you think about it, the archetype of "femme fatale" fits the definition of a witch to the dot - "a beautiful, and seductive woman whose charms ensnare her lovers, often leading them into compromising, deadly traps. Her ability to enchant, entice and hypnotize her victim with a spell was in the earliest stories seen as verging on supernatural; hence, the femme fatale today is still often described as having a power akin to an enchantress, seductress, witch, having power over men. Femmes fatales are typically villainous, or at least morally ambiguous, and always associated with a sense of mystification, and unease."
I will leave it to you for your own interpretations - this could be just an homage to the women's tragic stories throughout the ages. Or maybe Agatha relates to the story because of her own experience. Or that maybe the story has some truth to it and Agatha actually has some connections with the events. It could even be a nod to the character of Rio. Who knows?...
#agatha all along#agatha harkness#kathryn hahn#aubrey plaza#rio vidal#agathario#agatha x rio#lorelei#witches#mcu#marvel mcu#mcu fandom#marvel
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Lorelei and Loki • it's a shame that these two never interacted with each other in the MCU. I like to think that Lorelei's magic does not work on Loki due to his feminine side and seiðr skills.
#loki#lorelei#agents of shield#double trouble#midnott#midnott.art#it's also a shame that her older sister Amora never appeared#I think this is the first time I really tried to draw a mcu outfit#her story is actually quite tragic
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does anyone else think it's really funny that MCU Loki has such a lack of genuine friends that to pretend there were some at some point involves creating original characters
#and it's usually women characters too isn't that hilarious#like 'uhhh yeah Loki had friends pre-Thor 1. such as.... uhhm. Amora. Sigyn. Lorelei? Angrboda!'#and then Sif and Loki end up with the most complex relationship out of Loki and the other warriors 3#bro was so friendless everyone agreed to carry over characters not even in the MCU just so he can have some
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So I drawn Amora ( left ) and Lorelei ( right ) in these Mary Boleyn ( left ) and Anne Boleyn ( right ) inspired attires
Cuz in my MCU fics, Amora and Lorelei have nods to Mary and Anne Boleyn respectively
In this drawing, Amora wears a black and green Mary Boleyn inspired attire with a gold and black headdress, and Lorelei wears a blue and gold Anne Boleyn inspired number
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The reason why Sigyn is so popular among a certain subset of Loki apologists is not just because she lacks personality thus making her a perfect self isert vessel, it's because since her only personality is being a meek submissive wifey she's the only woman whom they can trust will never call him out on his bullshit, have conflicting interests, argue, or have any animosity toward him that they read as abuse (someone should really introduce them to the book Conflict Is Not Abuse). I just saw a Sigyn stan make a list of Why Every Female Love Interest Loki Ever Had Is A BACKSTABBING BITCH, and in the list they naturally mention Sylvie because of the season finale, then Amora and Lorelei that, granted, did betray him, then Wanda, because that brief fake out that they called a malicious act of emotional abuse, then Leah, whom they claim have betrayed him and I still trying to figure, wtf, HOW???? cause wasn't he the one who (was forced to) betray her when he sent her to the past? Or they're talking about the time his guilty conscience took her form in YA? Do they hate women so much that they're holding the way a man's nightmares chose to manifest against them? Anyway, it just proves that Loki apologists treat him like a fragile baby and that they hate women so much that any animosity or conflict from their part makes them irredeemable monsters and the only woman who's good enough for him is a submissive enabler who has no motivations of her own that might conflict with his.
EXACTLY. And I am a Loki apologist. I will never get over that one Sigyn stan trying to paint Sylkis as the misogynists "because we all slut-shamed Amora" and trying to join forces with Amora fans (LOL point to WHERE HAVE I SLUTSHAMED AMORA?! I have merely said Sylvie's better written). While calling Sylvie a "slattern" in the same fucking post. And having posts about how "feisty" Sigyn is for calling Lorelei a "slattern" and being happy that Amora is being forcefully given to a giant/ogre in the comics.
#anon asks#mcu!loki#mcu!sylvie#comics!loki#marvel comics#comics!amora#comics!lorelei#anti logyn#anti sigyn stans#comics!sigyn#comics!leah
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Lorelei/Raina, Descendants AU.
all I see is the heart I want, chapter 18.
#unwindmyself#femslash february#all i see is the heart i want#lorelei#raina#agents of shield#stories#lorelei and raina#mcu
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Loki x wife!Reader Headcanons [throughout the MCU]
Thor1 Loki: He's so soft soft baby TM and caring and always so sweet to you, in private or in public. Love is overflowing! Always kissing you and spoiling you. Not handsy but is always hand holding, or wraps arm around your waist. 2x Verbal Admiration than when he courted you. Favorite thing in the world is your blush and your laugh. You make him melt and he worships the ground you walk on. Gifts, LOTS of gifts.
"i don't deserve you, y/n." "If You don't deserve me, no one else does."
💕How is the love-making?: Soft and Full of emotion! Worships your body; worships You. He'll make you understand why it's called love-making. Frequent eye contact because he loves getting lost in your eyes. Asgard who? (Odin has to forbid you from seeing Loki at work hours because it distracts him😂)
Avengers1 Loki: won't even look you in the eye, ignores your presence like his heritage. When you do manage to get a word with him, he'll Loki-talk you (i.e. vague words with ambiguous meanings that can be interpreted any way) into thinking he's been cheating on you (LIES). Not even a decent answer. Refuses to give you anything but his ire.
"You still think me a lovesick puppy, girl?" "My husband is a God who's just deeply devoted to his wife! Who are you and what have you done to him!?" "Tut tut, my darling Lorelei -oh wait, that's not Your name." *smirks evilly and vanishes*
💕Um.. love-making..?: most probably not, he's busy being Villain TM. But if you do manage to, he'll end up leaving you unsatisfied or humiliated, tossing you away like a rag doll -anything to make you think he's a bad guy (He's not. But you have to, otherwise The Other might hurt you too.)
TDW Loki: he'd still keep up the A1 facade and if you still want him, he'll be mean and act borderline disrespectful, claiming it's your duty as his wife. But in reality, he only wants to hurt you because spending the rest of his life locked up will be easier with you hating him. Looks at you longingly from his cell with an inexplicable sadness in his eyes, but will aboslutely deny it.
"I know you wouldn't invade Midgard simply for power. I know you are above that, Loki." "It is 'my Prince' to you. And, I'd rather you stick to your duties as just my wife."
💕Smut?: Sure, if you hide it from Odin's knowledge. Lots of degradation, though. You can see the apology on his face, feel the desperation on his touch and hear the veiled sadness is his piercing words. His body language is begging you to stay, yearning for you and hoping you'd understand. Once it's over, he won't even look at your eyes knowing if he does, he can't be mean to you. What hurts him should make him stronger.
TR Loki: After he shockingly discovered his mysterious survival, he ran back to the palace in search of you. But got to Odin first and.. y'know. He's successfully avoided any romance with you thanks to his disguise, but yearning is on the double when he sees the depth of your devotion.
"All-Father, I wish to petition a statue on my... late husband's behalf. Of him, of what he's done for Asgard." "He's a traitor and a convict." "Who gave his life in atonement. It was a misguided atte-" "Misguided!? Is that what you call acting against the Hlidskjalf? He invaded Midgard and took innocent lives!" "And paid for it with his own. I beg your reconsideration, All-Father." *After a long, scrutinizing pause* "The council will decide." "T-thank you, All-Father." *Loki as Odin looks at you bow and retreat, sadness in his eyes* 'Oh, my love, how do you still love me after all I've done to you?'
After evading death by planetary destruction and back in the Statesman hale, healthy and alive, he makes up for earlier. You refuse to accept, still feeling bitter, but Loki has his ways ;)
💕How so? 👀: As I said, making up. For dayyyys. Lots of apologizing, lots of begging and even the occasional spanking. Many, many rounds even. Thor is quite concerned. Wait, why is Loki carrying you everywhere, can't you wal- OH.
IW Loki: If you thought you knew how much he loves you (in Thor1), oh baby, you're about to be proven wrong. F*cking killed Thanos in, like, 2 seconds max. All it took was Big Ugly Grape-head to see you and give a creepy smile, the next minute he's lying headless on the ground, his army dissipating into dust.
"The tesseract or yo-" *gets decapitated by Loki*
❓And the love-making?: .... uh, doubtful.. Thor is busy choking your husband about why the f*ck he didn't say anything of having the tesseract. (Seriously, Thor, how else did you think he survived a planetary level destruction!? *exasperated sigh*)
And you lived happily ever after <3
The end. 💚
#loki x reader#loki x reader imagine#loki x you#loki x y/n#loki imagines#loki headcanon#loki x you imagine#loki x wife reader#loki x female reader#loki x f!reader#loki x fem reader#loki x y/n imagines#loki imagine#loki x reader imadine#loki x reader headcanon#loki#loki marvel#loki mcu
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Thorki head cannons as siblings and maybe a bit more (MCU Loki lived)
Thor used to sneak into Loki’s nursery to be near his baby brother. Often holding him when he got fussy.
Loki would feign sick to get Thor’s attention the only one who didn’t like having to cart the youngest prince around was Volstagg. Who would catch onto the fact that Loki isn’t really sick and that Thor is a sucker when it comes to Loki.
Talking ill of Loki was usually fighting words end of story
Thor would encourage the man’s love of reading and even now sends him book recommendations he thinks the man will like
Wasn’t happy about the fact that it was heavily implied. That his baby brother went down on Jeff Goldblum.
For as mad as he was.. post scheme reveal this Loki is the most like the brother he’d lost to the void so long ago.
For a brief moment Thor saw his scared beloved brother again in those blue eyes. On that roof top in New York but he hadn’t known what it’d meant.
When Loki is quiet is when Thor grows worried and concerned.
Loki originally wanted to get rid of Odin because of how he treated Thor.
New York was part jealousy and part mind control
Once told Tony ‘Odin doesn’t have expensive taste.. but more brother does.’ Before jetting over to Asgard to confront him. Part relieved that he’s alive and the other part wanting to smack him with mjolnir.
Lorelei hypnotized Thor once long ago and they don’t talk about. How Loki managed to snap him out of it.
Loki once got turned into a black cat.. he still has the emerald encrusted collar Thor had around his neck for those three weeks.
Loki once cried as a kid because someone *coughs Volstag* told him Thor is getting tired of carting him around.
Once as kids enemies of Asgard tried to and briefly succeeded in kidnapping Thor. And if you manage to push all the wrong buttons. You unlock traumatized Thor. Only one person ever accidentally managed this.
They once started bickering in old Norse and Valkyrie refused to repeat some of it to Jane. Because when they bicker they call each other some foul names.
Loki saw fear for the first time in a long time when he really thought Thor was back under a spell. Ironically it was Loki’s eyes widening that snapped him out of it that time.
Loki starts trending ‘ThorIsOverParty’ at least twice a month to humble his brother’s ego. So it never gets as bad as it did pre banishment.
They like to change their names in each other’s phones and handles on their socials. Loki’s personal favorite was ‘godofhimbos’ and Thor’s is ‘mylittlecrybaby.’
Thor gets Loki his favorite snacks every chance he gets
Loki will sit around his brother every chance he gets. But if Thor slips up and asks his about his day or how he is. Pre impersonation scheme. Then Loki would bolt like a bat out of hell.
#thoughts#thorki#thor odinson#loki laufeyson#ao3 fanfic#ao3 tags#ao3 author#ao3 writer#ao3#fanfic#marvel headcanons#marvel cinematic universe#mcu fandom#mcu#marvel#siblings#tumblr fyp
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Hey, so just in case the main MCU fandom hasn't gotten it yet, Loki was a good king
I don't mean that ironically, I mean that genuinely, because he actually took proactive steps as Odin to not only protect Asgardians, but to protect people of other realms
"Odin" sends down Sif twice in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and each time it was to help them. First time it was because Lorelei had escaped and he knew she could do massive damage, second was because a Kree landed on Earth and historically, Kree landing on other planets is never a good sign
Loki didn't have to do these types of things. He could've just let them be all alone, like Odin did. By putting on plays about his own noble sacrifice, the people thought he was Odin. But instead he chose to lend a hand, to send Sif down to help S.H.I.E.L.D., and that's something Odin would never do
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⋆。‧˚ʚ ❀ hi!! i’m r, and i’d love to be friends ❀ ɞ˚‧。⋆
here’s a little about me:
in general:
i am a minor, i’m fine with 18+ just don’t be…weird
my pronouns are she/her
i’m bi and somewhere on the ace spectrum (people are pretty but ew)
i’m an infp and a february aquarius
i’m obsessed with camellia flowers (and not because it’s a luke hemmings lyric, that was just a delightful coincidence)
please don’t bring any drama or any negative energy anywhere near my blog
tv & movies:
stranger things
fav character : max and mike
fav ship : byler
bridgerton
fav character : eloise bridgerton
fav ship : anthony and kate
dead boy detectives
fav character : charles and jenny
fav ship : charles and edwin
gilmore girls
fav character : luke and jess
fav ship : rory and jess, luke and lorelei
ted lasso
fav character : colin and sam
fav ship : roy and keeley
heartbreak high
fav character : spider and ant
fav ship : spider and missy
the bear
fav character : richie (cousin)
fav ship : i don’t really have one?
outer banks
fav character : jj
fav ship : jj and kiara
young royals
fav character: wille
fav ship: wille and simon
shadow and bone
fav character: nina
fav ship: nina and matthias
school spirits
fav character: wally
fav ship: maddie and wally
criminal minds
fav character : spencer
fav ship : jemily
sitcoms
new girl
parks & rec
the office
brooklyn 99
superstore
mcu
fav characters: bucky, wanda, loki
other fav movies
10 things i hate about you
the breakfast club
the bikeriders
grease
elvis
music:
5 seconds of summer (my favorite artist)
luke hemmings is my lane and also my favorite human ever :)
my fav album is youngblood, fav song is lie to me
luke hemmings
fav album is wfttwtaf (fav album of all time too), fav song is garden life
taylor swift
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reneé rapp
fav song is willow
chappell roan
fav song is naked in manhattan
one direction
fav album is four, fav song is what a feeling
harry styles
fav albums is harry’s house, fav song is lights up
louis tomlinson
fav album so fitf, fav song is angels fly
note: i am not a larry
niall horan
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conan gray
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olivia rodrigo
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sabrina carpenter
fav album is tied between short n sweet and eics, fav songs are vicious, juno, and exhale
ruel
fav album is 4th wall, fav song is lie
ashe
fav album is ashlyn, fav song is loose ends
maisie peters
fav album is the good witch, fav song is lost the breakup
madison beer
fav album is silence between songs, fav song is king of everything
florence + the machine
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paramore
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i am also an enthusiast of 80s music :)
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art:
i love to draw (graphite)
i dabble in watercolor
i do some digital art but nothing too complicated, mostly i just make wallpapers and turn albums into books
writing
nothing completed or posted anywhere because i procrastinate until i lose interest :)
reading
romance books mostly, my fav author is emily henry and my fav book series is once upon a broken heart
other fav books: six of crows duology, dance of thieves duology, abby jiminez’ most recent series (yours truly, part of your world, just for the summer), i’ll give you the sun, all our broken pieces, i’ve read most fluffy gay romances (red white and royal blue, boyfriend material, her royal highness,
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Every time I see sylvie I’m reminded that there’s officially no hope for Lorelei returning/Amora being introduced and I just
#amoroki#amoraloki#amora x loki#lokimora#loki x amora#lorelei#mcu lorelei#mcu amora#ha#loreloki#lokilei#loki series#antisylki#anti sylvie#mcu
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Wait, here's an idea. What if Lorelei's powers don't necessarily work on men but rather on anyone attracted to women. So a gay man wouldn't be affected but a lesbian would.
Hear me out. Asgard (in the MCU) appears to be homophobic. I'm not gonna go into reasons why, that's a post for another day. For a moment let's just accept that idea. So any queer people on Asgard are dismissed generally as a super tiny portion of the population and are probably seen through different homophobic lenses, such as a gay man not being masculine. But they're so far out of mind for most heterosexual Asgardians. And Lorelei seems to use sexuality with her powers. The newlywed husband immediately fell for her, as did the bikers, she raped Ward, and it sounded like she did the same to Sif's past lover. So maybe she's influencing other people's sexual feelings and heightening them to 11 specifically for her. Thus affecting some women and not all men.
Which makes me wonder how it works for aspec people. Is it purely for sexual attraction? If so aces are immune. Or does it affect romantic attraction? If so aros are immune. What about demisexuals and grey romantics and everything else on the spectrums? Does Lorelei have weaker power over them? Or does she still have the same power because there still is a chance of attraction?
Thought this stuff would be interesting. I mean, it doesn't work if you head canon Sif or May as being attracted to women at all, which I understand. As for Daisy and Jemma, I wonder if Lorelei even knows about this so maybe she never considered trying on those two. So if you head canon either as being attracted to women, that can be explained away more easily.
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Why magic in the MCU has failed
I remember the "good" old days when Doctor Strange was about to debut back in 2016. I was obsessed with spotting every single little magic detail in the MCU in the hope that magic would slowly grow in status and importance, only to give up after so much disappointment.
But the major issue? The moment Feige stated that every side project was a part of the MCU. People who experienced phase 1 and 2 will remember that magic was a taboo. "It's just science we don't understand yet". While it's a common line quoted by Marvel's greatest geniuses, we all know it's pure arrogance on their part. Otherwise, they'd be doing what magic users do.
It was not MCU's case. Magic was INDEED treated as science. From Ghost Rider's portal being reproduced by a robot through the Darkhold to Wanda's powers being a product of an experiment but not explained at all. From a loooong season of Cloak and Dagger taking its time to finally introduce magic elements to Nico's staff almost falling to the same old "technology" trope. From whatever is happening in Asgard to Loki's limited magic. It's frustrating, but we'd still find a way to turn the tables, right? The Dark Dimension was introduced (twice?), the (third) Darkhold was finally attached to Chthon, Morgana and Lorelei debuted, Nico's powers were finally acknowledge as magic... So what happened?
My best guess? Structure.
There's no structure to define what is magic in the MCU. Doctor Strange (2016) tried. Really hard. And, although it got several things right, it failed in two fundamental aspects: pre-established comic book knowledge and magic deities.
Remember how we got three Darkholds? The first was just so detached from magic that it became a book used to create a VIRTUAL world in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. The second was used by Morgan le Fey, but how was she associated with the Dark Dimension? Moreover, that was NOT the Dark Dimension from the first DS movie (or any comic book, really). Its last appearance, as seen in WandaVision and DSITMOM, finally mentioned Chthon, but it literally did NOTHING it was supposed to do. That MCU!Wanda has nothing to do with her 616 version, this is not new. But if we're going to use comic books as foundation to adapt a story, the very bare minimum you can do is do it right. Point is, the book does corrupt people, but it's because of Chthon's influence and his connection to Wanda. Where's Chthon in the movie? The corruption was badly explored and her journey towards evil and redemption doesn't make any sense from a magic point.
Now, the "main" magic cast in the MCU could have worked... Except that there's little to no information regarding how Kamar-Taj works as a temple/school for new sorcerers. And worse even, magic isn't connected to its deities. Sure, there were a few name drops, but does it explain where it comes from? And who chooses the next sorcerer supreme if the Vishanti isn't involved?
The truth is, magic was all over the place, and the creative minds were either too oblivious to the importance of learning about how magic works in comics (to the point of adapting a second Dark Dimension that has nothing to do with the original one) or too shy to introduce a magic hierarchy (as in, deities).
There's an actual attempt to create this structure now, but it's too late. Sure, you can ignore past tv shows, but the mess remains. Eternity was supposed to be an abstract entity, deeply connected to magic, cosmic aspects and life itself.
Loki is still so embarrassing because the very foundation of Asgardian mythos started wrong (and why is that? Because no magic, of course!). While I find funny that Stephen trapped Loki in an endless freefall, there's no way the god of stories would be humiliated like that. Loki being taught magic by his alts is infuriating (and it's, again, mostly illusions).
Remember when Stephen was beaten by math? That also happened.
This is the moment I completely give up to see magic portrayed at its fullest, in all its beauty and complexity. Because it's not treated the way it deserves. It has never been.
And here's my boldest take: if you really wish to see the full potential of magic in the MCU, go for What If. The price you pay, the cosmic proportion of being misused, the creative elements... It's all there. Which is sad because it's not the main timeline. Anyways, this is it.
PS: This post may age poorly as DS3 comes out in 20 years. Let's wait and see.
#ds3 being my only source of interest regarding magic bc agatha and loki are NOT it#i keep loosing#mcu#mcu discourse#analysis#magic
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Analyzing Loki's Love Interests (Canon and Foreshadowed and Not-So-Canon)
As always, spoilers for Loki, a multitude of comics, and the MCU. I'm focusing on primarily canon love interests and implied to potentially become canon love interests, with one glaring exception because I think they deserve to be included here.
Women Love Interests
Amora: leads Loki on and then betrays him (Where Mischief Lies)
Lorelei: betrays Loki in Agent of Asgard at least twice (and she's made appearances as Loki's love interest in other comics, too, but none that I've read). It should also probably be noted that Amora and Lorelei are sisters and both have also dated Thor in other comics.
Wanda: brief but a bit of a lead-on in Scarlet Witch 8. I wouldn't say she betrayed him, though.
Leah: they're children, mostly, so there's not explicitly romantic scenes. But Kid Loki is the reincarnation of his previous self, and Leah is a clone of Hela (which makes things weird, since Hela is inconsistently acknowledged to be Loki's daughter in the comics). Leah essentially betrays him, too. (Journey into Mystery)
Sylvie: Of course, she betrays Loki at the end of season one. On the one hand, it may be worse, because unlike all but Lorelei (of the comics I know), she led him on to the point of actually kissing him. Now, I will concede that she doesn't actually lead him on throughout the show (by my definition at least), so in this, she's certainly better than Amora or Leah. I think a few times she tried letting him down gently. But if you only look at the point of betrayal, I believe she and Lorelei are the only ones who kissed him, though Amora may have, too.
Men Love Interests
Theo: The only canon male love interest on the list; trusts Loki, believes he's better than the stories say, sympathizes with him and his feelings of being outcasted. He's courageous and determined and snarky, but with Loki he's ultimately soft.
Mobius: He knows Loki, from an academic standpoint, probably better than anyone. And then he gets to know Loki off paper, so to speak, and it rewrites everything he thought he understood, about this specific person, about himself, about reality itself. But his compassion remains, his kindness remains, and he directs it toward Loki when he needs it most. And he discovers he believes in Loki, and his potential, and his ability to dismantle everything everyone expects of him, at a moment when Loki's not even sure he believes in himself. And the trailer for season two means one of two things: One, if the Mobius from the finale is not our Mobius, then Mobius very quickly moves heaven and earth (or rather, alternate timelines) to get to his Loki. Or two, if the Mobius from the finale is a memory-wiped Mobius, then even when he doesn't know Loki, he's still determined to help him. (Or Loki was able to restore his memories, but even in the finale we can still see this care Mobius takes with a frightened stranger.)
Thor: I think the way Thor feels for Loki is clear (whether you interpret it as brotherly alone or romantic). In Ragnarok, you have his line "I thought the world of you." And you have the many times in the comics Thor claims him as his own. "You are my brother, and I love you." In Original Sin, it's so interesting to hear their language very subtly cause a conflict between them. When referring to Angela, Thor always says "our sister" and Loki always says "your sister." To the point that Thor actually calls him out on it once, though I don't think Loki really addresses it. And I think Loki's wording is an attempt more to distance himself from Odin and all the shit he caused, and now Freyja, too, after the betrayal of the All-Mother in securing Old Loki's promised future at the cost of Loki's penance and redemption. And then you have that moment in King Thor, my favorite comic panel, when the Necrosword is swallowing them in darkness and in the very last moment they reach for each other. Because Thor will never give up on Loki. And, try as he might, Loki cannot hate Thor. Not permanently.
I feel like Loki's writers, when they give him these women lovers, almost do it to spite him. They think this is the only type of woman to catch Loki's attention and that haha, Loki's been outmatched by a girl (if misogynist) or diva (if they worship the ground this woman walks on). This idea that the only interesting or believable romantic subplot for Loki is with a woman who will ultimately turn on him. Once again, in all aspects of his narrative, Loki's stuck doing the same thing over and over again. Except this seems like the one thing all writers are willing to let him keep up the cycle, and be seemingly okay with upholding the cycle.
In the case of canon, an argument could be made about this kind of woman (and all of these women are very different except in that they betray him eventually) being Loki's type. There's a rather sick sense of irony in being aware of the narrative, yet being so attracted to a certain quality that he keeps sowing the seeds of his own destruction even in knowing how it's going to end.
Of course, like I've said, this doesn't mean Loki can't love a woman. This doesn't mean I don't want Loki to ever have a girlfriend. I just want Loki to have a love interest for once who isn't going to hurt him before the novel or issue or season ends. I don't even care what gender they are. I just want him to be loved. Because he keeps insisting that he isn't and that he's incapable of it. And I'm tired of that story. And I think he might be, too.
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A theory of mine : Rio Vidal is actually Amora the Enchantress
I'd love for her to be in MCU. I mean, if we got Lorelei and Skurge....I think Amora finally on screen debut ain't much of a stretch
Some reasons why I have this theory :
. Rio Vidal is an alias name - who could she be, really? She is also listed as a Green Witch. Well, Morgana le Fay is already in the MCU Runaways, so who else is a Green Witch? AMORA
. Let's be real, I find her personality is already kinda similar to Amora in spades
. Green And Goth?! AMORA, Y'ALL
. Rio Vidal's origins are still a mystery, but so far she's a runaway. Could it be that, after Lorelei got executed after Sif brought Lorelei back to Asgard, Amora was on a run from the Asgardian forces trying to hunt her down, and then she managed to sneak into Earth and put on an alias disguise?
. Rio Vidal's magic is mainly around dark chaos magic, similarly with Amora
So yeah, these are amongst reasons why I think Rio Vidal is Amora, y'all
#rio vidal#agatha all along#agatha x amora?! INTERESTING#mcu#rio vidal may very well be amora#mcu theories
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