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Nicky's Rio son too.

I feel there were so many lines that imply this and the finale is starting to make more sense - especially because the dandelion in the trial!

Jen explains that Green Craft™ is about the cycle of all living things - growth and decay in constant flow. So it's not just about dying but being born too.

So it would track that Rio's love for Agatha was so strong that it actually created life - Nicky. However, there would be consequences to this because proper balance had to be maintained somehow. Rio probably even warned Agatha about it, but Agatha always believes she is above the rules so in her head she probably thought she had every right to Nicky (maybe even her "prize" that she alludes to in their final confrontation). This would really add to Rio's hurt - Nicky was her son too. She thought she was giving Agatha a gift of life, but instead Agatha sees her as this cruel "evil" that "gave her nothing". To her Rio is the one who just "took."

It feels like it is also implied by Rio at the start of the episode when she says "This walk with another woman's son on a road that doesn't...". She could be referring to Nicky being her son.

But I think Agatha finally accepts her truth during the final trial when she sees the dandelion seed in her cameo. She even says "Out of Death - life" as she grows it because she finally understands the literal implications of that phrase.

That Dandelion is representation of Nicky. And sure enough, as soon as the flower grows and blossoms, it quickly enters the final stage - when it turns into the seeds that can be scattered by the wind again and continue the cycle of life. Because guess what, "dandelions produce seeds asexually by apomixis, where the seeds are produced without pollination, resulting in offspring that are genetically identical to the parent plant".

When Nicky is born, we could probably assume it was indeed asexual reproduction - Agatha says she didn't use a spell or incantation, but instead he was made from scratch (obviously a clever nod to his name). On one hand it could be read like Agatha is astonished how something this magical could happen without actually using any witchcraft. However, this also feels like a suggestion that maybe she is just amazed at how he could possibly exist. Kathryn Hahn in her recent interview alluded to how the witches didn't need men, babies were just born. So it was Rio's "dandelion seed" that made it happen.

It is the second characteristic of dandelion species is what seals the deal for me - "the offspring being genetically identical to the parent plant". Nicky as the offspring of Death needs bodies to survive in this realm. During his birth Rio says she can offer only time, because she can maintain the balance, as long as Nicky gets his bodies.

That's why she hates Rio and calls her evil - not because of Rio herself, but because of what her "genetics" did to Nicky. Agatha would rather have people believe that she is this evil witch killer that traded her child for the Darkhold, than anyone to know the awful truth that it was Nicky who was the cause of the killings.

In the flashbacks, there are those remarks about how they haven't "eaten for days" and that whenever Nicky was poorly he said he was hungry. Agatha said she couldn't create the food for him (and protect him from what's coming). She could've cooked that goat they had with them if they were really that hungry (btw, I still believe that goat is Senor Scratchy), but that wasn't the "food" that Nicky meant.

And just like Billy, Rio couldn't just take Nicky. He had to "turn himself in". It was his choice not to kill any more witches. On the day Nicky dies, he says "My mother needs me home". I think he is talking about Rio here, since he usually calls Agatha "Mama". This is the moment the decides for himself and goes home to Death.

I feel like this opens the possibility that we will indeed see Nicholas Scratch in the future (and have a role similar to the one in the comics). That maybe even he might not have "died" because he is an offspring of death, so he just exists in some Underworld realm, where he no longer needs bodies to survive. Maybe Agatha might have hoped that by killing more and more witches, she will bring Nicky back to life/this realm?

And the Ballad really was a protection spell she made for him too?

This would also be a more plausible explanation why Agatha went to kiss Rio when Billy asked "Is this how Nicky died?". I feel this was more of an apology to Rio for hating her for Nicky's treatment, because she finally understood why she had to do it?

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I felt unsatisfied with it all. They pulled a let’s kill e lesbian card at the end like all shows i don’t know why lesbian can’t be happy. Also I think the one who got screwed over the most sadly was Rio who just wanted Agatha to love her is that so hard she did give her special treatment by letting her son be able to live in the first place. I would have finished the show with Agatha and Rio plus Nicky all together in deaths house. But no the write hate their fans and lesbians. But I will say good acting for all the actors in the show that’s the only thing I will give a positive for in the end of it all. Big disappointment and I god I hope death at least stays as a lesbian and stays the hell away from the who Deadpool romance it’s the least they can do for us gals. Sorry about the long rant.

Yes, it felt a lot like the Killing Eve finale all over again.

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Post finale thoughts

In short: dshjfhsiKDNQWDdaISFAdFKDN;FVh

I am a mixed bag of emotions, so I will have to revisit this later. Jac did stick her landing in the same way she did in Wandavision - offered a lot of heartbreak and lots of potential for the future. So I hope this means we get season 2!

Kathryn Hahn has all the awards in the bag

Ghost Agatha slays.

All of the Agatha's different eras outfits slay.

Rio being DEADLY SERIOUS slays.

Righteous Billy doesn't slay

Agatha is literally refusing to die. Slay! (But Rio said she hated ghosts. Great.)

Jen getting her powers back was so touching, even though I didn't care much for her character. I wish they developed her more, because he arc seemed very rushed.

Yet this whole Agathario strand just feels so unsatisfying and not at all like Jac or Kathryn or Aubrey made us believe. I would rather give up that kiss in favour of them showing us more scenes of them actually talking, fleshing out their history, rather than just a whole lot of creepy lurking. It feels like ep.1 were the most charged scenes and that's just sad.

For Agatha to kiss Rio and die, implies they could not kiss before. Meaning when Agatha was going for that kiss in ep.4, this was her actually offering herself to Rio, because she thought Rio spared him? Or in sacrifice? I'm not sure I like that

Agatha and Nicky's flashback was just one massive heartbreak. Well done to all of you who guessed that it was Nicky who created the ballad. BUT WHY DID YOU HAVE TO BE SO RIGHT. It really hit, every single line.

But what's up with that goat? That is senor scratchy right?

I don't understand why Lilia is dead. Agatha said Jen got what she was missing and that's why she got out. And Lilia got what was missing too. She accepted her powers. She realised what she was missing was a coven. She got that. So did she actually die?

So episode 1 was a lot of foreshadowing... just not the way I thought!

I am not going to say anything about Billy's character, as I fear in my current state I will do him and the writers a great disservice. I will come back to this... when I cool down. And sleep. Need some sleep.

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The implication that they've never kissed before because it would kill Agatha. Meaning in ep.4, she was about to offer herself for that boy and Rio stopped her

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this means season 2 right? Right?!

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wtf billy

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not Agatha lounging on the washing machines...

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who's Mrs Davis?... 🤣

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Let me say this again, Billy is so slow

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slay that gray!

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there it is. There is the con

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is that... Is that the bell?

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so... The more witches she kills, the longer Nicky lives?

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boo!

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Billy really is slow, isn't he?

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Westview must really hate the Maximoffs by now

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you mean to tell me they've never actually kissed before. What.