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SIGYN

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sinmas thoughts

Okay so I literally just finished the episode an hour ago! And !! Omg

Okay first off deeply concerned about a few things

Like yes yay the elsa bitch guy getting beat up was great but like how fucking easy is it going to be for him to turn around and go hey these peasants attacked me in my own home and it's back to them about to be executed. Like there's no fucking way there isn't consequences for this

Did anybody else notice millie getting punched by elsa bitch really fucking hard right in her lower stomach. Because I sure did! What if she's not pregnant after that what if she comes to terms with being pregnant and starts to get excited only to find out her baby was murdered before it even had a chance.

There were...a lot of fucking pill bottles there. Were they empty or did stolas just mass order his fucking pills. I am worried that via will start to take them. After all she's alone in a traumatic household with her world burning down around her

Speaking of via her powers!! Coming in! And them being sporadic as fuck and tied to her emotions? Can't wait for her to literally blow everybody up that'll be a fun time.

Still on via, bot really a concern just something I'm thinking about. The way via knew immediately not to argue with her mother, or even attempt to get her phone back or get an extra one or anything at all is very telling. The way she knew to just immediately put her headphones in and keep her head down and to go hide in her room. The way she went even further to hide in her closet before starting to sing? (How many times do we think she heard her mom berate her dad for singing) i think via knows her dad was being abused but hasn't yet fully realized what that means and is (understandablely) having a lot of feelings in every single direction.

Luna seems so much more happier and relaxed! She has friends now! She's laughing and smiling and not wearing exclusively dark clothes! She's openly calling blizo dad with out the grumbling! She just seems a lot more settled and happy now and honestly good for her!!

Idk why but I was not expecting stolas to sound like that. Just the way he said pussy caught me off guard for some reason. There were a couple other times where that happened but I don't really feel like listening them all out. Also. Fucking weird to be seeing stolas's pupils now.

Also!!! Stolas's face as m&m tore into each other. Wow. You know he was freaking the fuck out there and reliving some shit.

Speaking of background faces; the imp servants at the palace. Yah they all looked miserable and terrified. Not surprised but still yikes! With stolas they were always very much done with his shit , tired, and resigned but none of them seemed really terrified/upset like they do now.

Love that we don't really get overly nice manipulation Stella on via. Like she didn't even pretend to give a shit about her for more than that one second did she.

Blitzo calling stolas his bottom instead of just... literally anything else. Like he literally did not have to do that. But also confirmed stolitz dom/sub contract? 👀 or is this blitzo being himself and I'm reading too much into it.

All of us secretary! Stolas secretary! Stolas only for it to turn out that he hates it so fucking much ("I'm poor now! Melts into a puddle oh man. )

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Octavia's DiGalaxis Sinsmas gown attire be smth like this but hot fuschia pink ( with a Bloodstone tiara atop of her ponytail ) :

Octavia's forced engagement press conference attire be smth like this :

Octavia's Bloodstone wedding dress be smth like this ( except the dress is baby lavender and the veil is pink ) :

Octavia's 18th birthday attire ( some weeks after the end of the War of 7 Rings ) be smth like this ( with a beautiful moon themed diamond tiara atop of her braided bun ) :

This is definitely more onto Octavia's tastes

She prefers simple yet opulent attires, not like the overly garish attires Stella regularly wears

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Patricia Evangeline Anne Arbuthnot, possibly on her wedding day in 1933

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Just gonna say it again, Stolas deserves both Octavia and Blitz.

And that's not me saying that Octavia's feelings about the whole situation isn't justified, I'm not saying that at all.

Eventually however, Octavia will grow and mature as a character in regards to the whole situation, and so will Stolas in regards to the whole situation, which is made very clear in the scene at the end, with these two lines.

Things may be tough right now, but, eventually we'll see Stolas and Octavia back together, it'll be a hard journey, but I have every confidence that as both characters grow and mature more, we'll see the bridge between them get rebuilt eventually.

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https://changes.ie/parental-alienation-a-childs-silent-struggle/#:~:text=Alienated%20children%20often%20find%20themselves,or%20rejection%20from%20their%20peers.

The facted that alienated children feel as if their targeted relatives abandoned them yet resented the alienating relatives for abusing them and feel alone in the world AUGHHH MY HEARRRT

No wonder most alienated kids needed to heal in environments away from such divorce dramas ( in asylums, foster care, etc ) before fully rekindling their targeted relatives

Ask Octavia about this, for starters

Turns out a great many of the alienated children had to be sent to foster care or asylums to remove themselves from feuding families in a divorce involving a bunch of narcissists

In Octavia's case, her relatives literally came to fight WARS against each other over her custody and all and, as much as the rest of the Goetias planned to take her in their custody until the whole mess is over, eventually things got so bad that they had to surrender Octavia to asylum care until the whole mess is over

It's one of the hardest things they've ever done

I don't think any family with any sense would want to surrender their kid to health spa or asylum

But sadly, in some cases, that would literally be a last resort if the kid was really that tormented

Just look at Octavia 's cases, for starters

She needed to be removed from the mess for the time being to heal until the whole thing blows over 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

I honestly thought Octavia would be better off with any of her paternal relatives for a time being

But sadly, it seems that even her paternal relatives are so tormented in the whole mess and things get so bad that Octavia may have to be surrendered to a health spa or asylum as a last resort

Octavia needs to be removed from such messes to go through deep healing, as do many alienated kids 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

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A conversation between foster dad and foster daughter

Ozzie : Sweetheart, I understand you and your husband are outraged over what happened to Via and your kids....but isn't crossing red lines over Pride and Lust against Wrath and Sloth a bit much?

Amethyst :....* in tears * I've done everything I could to protect my own. After the debacle of my youngest son failing to save Octavia, it is the best we can do, to get her back.

Ozzie :....But wouldn't that just turn away Octavia even more?

Amethyst : * in tears, angry flowers sprouting around Ozzie's office * SHE'S GONE, DONT YOU SEE?! SHE'S BETRAYED US!

Ozzie : Thystie -

Amethyst : * crying over a handkerchief * How can she do this to us? After all we've done for her? We've tutored her, schooled her, coaxed her to be at least on our side in this mess....and now she is GONE. * pauses to try catch a breath * She was good. She was....like a white lily amongst us Goetias. Sometimes we wondered where did she come from.

Ozzie : I'm sorry....* puts a comforting hand on Amethyst's shoulder *

Amethyst :....She was one of my husband's favorite grandchildren - he kept saying that he sees bits of Gemory in her. He promised Via that one day the 8 moons will be hers.....my other children are working to get back the Moon legions in Stolas' stead....to at least fix the order of nature....But how come Via can't see all that we've tried to do for her? Her mind has been poisoned by the wretch, and she's GONE.

Ozzie : Look, I don't believe your granddaughter is ' gone gone '. And yes, we still need to find a way to save her and make her see the whole truth....but at the end of the day, she needs to figure it out on her own -

Amethyst : AND LET HER DIE AT THE HANDS OF THOSE MONSTERS?!

Ozzie : THATS NOT WHAT I MEANT. * face palms and sighs * What I'm trying to say is, even after we saved her....she needs time apart from the mess, I mean that poor girl needs a break. And sometimes....one may need to loose something to realize how important something or someone means to them. Absence can make the heart grow fonder, after all.

Amethyst :......I just want my dear granddaughter back....

Ozzie : We all do, little rose. But for now, I think we need to heal within ourselves before more families get torn asunder.

Amethyst :...My children are all doing this...this project to rekindle families....my husband and I just wanted to protect our own, we....we didn't think how much it would affect innocent families...

Ozzie : I'd say just let your kids do that and don't interfere too much, dearie.

Fizz comes in

Fizz : Hey, Oz! I - oh. * bows * Hello, Queen Amethyst. You okay?

Amethyst : Feeling better now now that Ozzie helped comfort me

Fizz : Ohhh. * pauses * About what happened to your kids and granddaughter I'm so sorry. I really am.

Amethyst : * smiles softly * Your condolences is much appreciated. I know you are around in similar years as my youngest son, but I wanted to express my gratitude in taking good care of my foster father

Fizz : Hey, glad you finally fully approved! * beams *

Ozzie : Froggy - I mean, Fizz, got movie night planned for us.....you wanna come join us? You can get your husband along too.

Amethyst : * smiles * I apologize, I'd love to join but my husband is going through blood pressure issues at the moment and I need to be there for him. Perhaps some other time.

Fizz : Ohhh. * pauses * Well then, say hi to your husband for us!

Amethyst : * smiles * OF course I will, and thank you. * teleports back to the Ars Goetia castle *

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God, I mean Satan, I just love how much unconditional support Blitz had this episode, he was just so accommodating and so sweet. Honestly it's such an incredible development for his character, I'm so happy that he's in a place where he can finally love someone without being afraid to do so.

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I've seen how entire empires and countries being torn asunder with wars and strive all because of the Royals' drama dragging everyone else in those empires down with it

Often those royals are too proud and stubborn to even listen to each other in times of high stakes and conflict

And the War of the 7 Rings literally caused all sorts of natural disasters, magic fabric chaos, rebellions and families torn asunder

Is it really worth it?

It becomes so bad that there are red lines between Pride, Lust, Wrath and Sloth, and the refuges in Lust and Gluttony came to be repeatedly attacked by those Wrath and Sloth fleets

And the Wrath and Sloth citizens came to see past the propaganda and quickly realize how much they suffered under the rule of those DiGalaxises, and how much Octavia suffered behind closed doors. Cue Rebellion across Wrath and Sloth

And even in the civil wars in Greed and Envy, families are torn asunder all because of red lines around it

And with those Goetians falling apart off each other, I bet Stolas and his sibs don't want that on those innocent families either

So Stolas and his sibs team up to work to reunite innocent families in the war, including Millie and her family in Wrath.

After much persuasion, eventually Paimon and Amethyst reluctantly allowed that gradually because they finally realized how much those innocent families are affected from the words of Stolas and his sibs

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Some more post Sinsmas theories

After the whole trying to save Octavia thing in Sinsmas

I can see later on Paimon did a facetime with Stolas

And then Paimon just lashes out at Stolas for ' failing to save his darling precious girl ' and the Goetias on facetime be arguing against each other

Even Amethyst, who tried to quell the argument, got angry and began to dish out her arguments in a tranquil Fury voice

And then Paimon demands to see IMP

Stolas nervously called them forward, and IMP explained everything

The Goetias are shocked - it turns out IMP and Stolas did try to save Octavia but Octavia was too brainwashed

After that, the Goetias made a decision to look for alternate means to save Octavia, whatever it takes

It is noted that Amethyst in her younger years was kinda like Octavia in some lights, but over the years of motherhood and queenship had Amethyst cling onto duty and security as a coping mechanism, and her putting the Crown and being a royal martriach amongst most everything else. Also Amethyst was raised in an environment that is rather different from Octavia's. So Amethyst becomes more machivellan than Octavia

Also with Millie pregnant, she's gonna have to stay behind with Stolas for secretary stuff and get help with pregnancy thing

I understand why she hasn't told Moxxie yet - they may plan to have a baby once they had more money

But once Moxxie got told, I'm sure he'll be surprised, but happy about it!

Why would Millie abort the baby she had with the love of her life?!

I mean, I can see Moxxie and Millie keeping the baby but also working on the essentials on their new home and such

And at the end of Season 3 their daughter is born, and they got more money since they became new heads of a new IMP after the retrial 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

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Ok. I need to say this because It's going to come up.

Octava's actions were completely understandable in this episode. Now keep in mind I said understandable, not justified.

Do I think she was wrong for jumping to the conclusion Stolas didn't love her and telling him off? Yes.

Do I blame Octavia in anyway for coming to that conclusion? No.

She doesn't have all the facts, she has no idea how terrible the marriage was or how abusive and cruel Stella is. and she's only 17.

I don't want to be agist or sexist, but when have you ever met a teenage girl who didn't act without thinking and let emotional responses win from time to time? They're not known for having foresight.

So yeah, none of this is Octavia's fault. Tbh, I think Stolas shot himself in the talon here by shielding her from how vile Stella is all those years.

If she understood, I don't think she'd have reacted this way. Octavia is reckless, lonely, depressed and vulnerable. but she isn't cruel.

If she realy didn't love Stolas anymore, she'd have let him die.

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In light of the recent Helluva Boss episode, my profile is NOT a safe space for Stolas nor Octavia hate.

Hellaverse fans(and or haters) whenever Stolas goes through more trauma and is flawed and whenever a traumatized teenage girl acts like a traumatized teenage girl:

“Stolas deserves everything coming to him lmao he’s not a victim!!”

“Octavia is so selfish and annoying omg she needs stop whining!!”

I hope to god that none of yall who think like this are planning on having children or starting a relationship with someone who has any type of trauma in the future cuz what the actual fuck…

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Some post Sinsmas theories I have based on the spoilers I got so far :

. Okay so after Octavia cut ties off Stolas then, once Octavia went back inside, Andrealphus and Stella began packing their bags to flee to Sloth due to humiliation of Andrealphus getting defeated by a bunch of imps

. Meanwhile Stella berated Octavia for defending Stolas, while Octavia yells back that she doesn't want to really have Stolas dead

. Stella slaps Octavia and a shocked and hurt Octavia got the first brush to realize why Stolas took all those pills

. The very next day they go to Sloth for Andrealphus' ice castle, and then Octavia found herself wearing Sloth Royal clothes while wearing some of Stella's old pink outfits

. And then in the DiGalaxis Sinsmas Party, Stella publicly announced that Octavia was bethrothed to one of Octavia's male maternal cousins - who is also Phenex and Andromalius' smarmy son

. Octavia was too shocked to even respond because she wasn't even told of the ' surprise '

. Octavia flat out said no to the bethrothal and caused a big scene, but then Stella flat out berated her in front of everyone else while everyone else just WATCHED. The rest of the DiGalaxises tried in vain to persuade her that they are doing what is ' best ' for her, but Octavia retorted back to, ' Well, that's what my dad and his relatives also told me, didn't they? And now they abandoned me.....'

. Stella threatens Octavia that, if she doesn't comply, Stella will have EVERYONE on Team Stolas to be destroyed. Octavia quickly complies while in tears

. Soon after New Years Day, Stolas and Blitzo received the big shock of their lives - Stella and Andrealphus interrupted the TV programmes to live broadcast a whole press conference of Octavia and that smarmy lad's bethrothal. And even worse is that Octavia was literally threatened by gun point behind her back to portray how she ' couldn't be happier '

. Already IMP and Stolas are gearing to crash the press conference.

. And then Paimon instantly interrupted the broadcast by publicly announcing that he and Amethyst laid down the official word that they will not approve of this bethrothal because of the whole war thing is just too great. And Vassago led fleets to crash the press conference. To make matters worse, Stella threw her own daughter to a prisoner dungeons where she'll stay until the Bloodstone wedding

. And for the whole month, Stella kept on being bullied and abused by her maternal relatives in tow

. Amethyst was so distraught by the forced engagement news that she literally cursed an eternal winter on Sloth.....and will only lift the curse once Octavia is back.

. The Goetia fleets and IMP still work to fight against the DiGalaxis fleets and also fight to get Octavia back.

. Eventually those other Goetias asked IMP how they can defeat Andrealphus without magic

. Blitzo explained to them everything, which inspired the plan to crash the Bloodstone wedding

. On the Bloodstone wedding day, Octavia at that point already pieced together the whole truth through her own detective work and eavesdropping. She also planned for escape many times but failed then. And on that day, she plotted to kill her soon to be ex fiance.

. She walked down the aisle with dried tears down her face, in a wedding dress that is lavender with a fluted collars and fire elements, and a pink cover up veil.

. Just as Stella was threatened by Stella's parents to say her vows, IMP and the Goetias and their legions crashed in.

. Pandemonium ensues, and Vassago opened up a portal to allow Octavia to escape with Loona and Moxxie ( Millie stayed behind cuz she's pregnant ). The rest be battling it out with those DiGalaxises

. And Stolas uses his Moon sword ( which was given to him by Ashtoreth ) to kill Octavia's ex fiance, right in front of Phenex's eyes ( who SCREAMED at the death of her son )

. Paimon killed Andromalius

. Stella, Andrealphus, and their parents barely escaped.

. Meanwhile, a super shaken Octavia was comforted by Loona, Moxxie, Fizz and Vortex. Octavia apologizing to them all how sorry she is for being so confused and such. And they all show that they forgive her

. Once the DiGalaxises in tow are defeated ( and those DiGalaxises who survive flee the Ice Castle, which was burned down by Paimon ), Blitzo and Stolas return to check on a shaken Octavia

. Stolas and Octavia reunite and they and Blitzo have a heart to heart talk together

. There's still so much pain to be healed, but at least Octavia can start to forgive her dad

. And it turns out Octavia was so shaken and wants to leave the mess behind that it becomes universally agreed that Octavia will stay in the Pentagram Asylum until the whole mess is over

. While Octavia was staying over there, she gains a full perspective of the truth, goes through deep healing in therapy and such, bonds with many patients who are also affected by the war, and learns to honor her truth

. The Goetias all mourn for Octavia and soon learned to forgive her - they are just grateful that Octavia is alive

. Octavia only has limited visits permitted to the rest of the Goetias and only allowed IMP and Stolas to visit her more at first

. Eventually, the rest of the Goetias can visit her more

. IMP helped Octavia to navigate life outside royalty, while the rest of the Goetias done whatever they can to help her recover, with rekindling of bond through shared hobbies and helped her tutor certain subject

. It becomes a haunting realization for those Goetias that they Also inadvertently hurt her, even though they've done whatever they could to protect her.

. So they soon decided to repair within themselves for the sake of Octavia - she's a darling of the Goetias, after all

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Stolas and Via are BOTH valid!!!!

I will probably make a much larger post but i hate how some of the criticals trash either Stolas or Via because of their behaviour in Sinsmas. Like, have an inch of media literacy yall.

Via is completely valid because in her perception Stolas did essentially just leave his family after cheating on Stella and abandoned his daughter while chasing dicc every 2 seconds.

Stolas is valid because at the end the choice literally boiled down to letting the love of his life be executed for something he is very much responsible for, or being outcast and leaving his daughter. It was an impossible choice.

Stolas needs to make conscious effort to rebuild his relationship with Octavia and start actually letting her in. He has had an incredibly lonely and difficult life (yes yes rich people can suffer too), and he needs to make Via understand that it's more complicated than "taking antidepressants because he feels stuck because of her". Via needs to eventually forgive Stolas (once he has made the effort!!!) and accept that her father deserves happiness and him leaving the family wasn't about her. They can try and rebuild the trust that was lost, but Stolas is not a horrible father, Via is not going to be happier by cutting him off and yall need to chill. The bird is not in his final form yet.

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THE WAY HES SPEAKING INTO HER HAND. ohh my god hes literally kneeling begging for her to listen

this frame is so beautiful and devastating

i genuinely cant exist anymore how am i meant to survive in these conditions

i understand how via must feel right now for her to do this (unwanted, lied to) and i know she has a right to be angry but. god. tears are running down my face. genuinely i want them to be okay. i NEED them to be okay.

maybe someday :(

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I also want those adoptive parents or not idk 👨‍👧

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Fuck Valentino

Script by: @regulusmasamune

Illustration by: Me! @oatmealdoodles