#mbti astrology observations

[typologyastro]

MBTI + Astrology Observations

● Dominant/auxiliary/tertiary Fe users (ENFJ, ESFJ, INFJ, ISFJ, ENTP, ESTP) usually have Cancer or/and Libra placements (especially Cancer & Libra Moon) or/and Moon/Venus dominants. I have tertiary Fe and I'm a Libra Sun, Mercury & Midheaven. Cancer & Libra descriptions as being warm, welcoming, diplomatic & harmonious strongly resonate with the Fe - extroverted feeling definition.

For example: Stray Kids's Bangchan (ENFJ, Libra Sun + Moon), Meghan Markle (ENFJ, Cancer Sun + Rising, Libra Moon), Madison Beer (ENFJ, Libra Moon), Taylor Swift (ESFJ, Cancer Moon), Ariana Grande (ESFJ, Cancer Sun, Libra Moon), Selena Gomez (ISFJ, Cancer Sun, Venus Conjunction Ascendant, Moon Conjunction Midheaven), Olivia Rodrigo (ESFJ, Libra Moon, Venus in the 1st house, Moon Conjunction Midheaven), Aespa's Karina (ESFJ, Cancer Moon), Twice's Dahyun (ESFJ, Taurus Sun, Cancer Moon), Twice's Mina (INFJ, Libra Moon), Fujii Kaze (INFJ, Libra Moon), Jimmy Carter (ISFJ, Libra Sun, Moon in the 1st house, Venus Conjunction North Node), Prince William (ISFJ, Cancer Sun + Moon in the 7th house), Kate Middleton (ISFJ, Cancer Moon), Amber Heard (ESTP, Taurus Sun, Libra Moon), Angelina Jolie (ESTP, Cancer Rising, Venus Conjunction Ascendant, Moon Conjunction Midheaven)

● Pisces, Neptune and 12th house placements are pronounced in artists and I have observed they are often dominant/auxiliary Fi and Fe users (ESFP, ISFP, ESFJ, ISFJ, INFP, ENFP, ENFJ, INFJ), though not exclusively. It makes sense since Pisces rules the art, imagination, illusion, music, etc. Artists are good at creating art & music that are relatable to the audience. Art is the language of the universe. Art touches and evokes emotions effectively. Feeling types (Fi & Fe) are good at displaying their emotions through their imagination & art.

For example: Justin Bieber (ESFP, Pisces Sun, Moon Square Neptune), Katy Perry (ESFP, Sun + Pluto in the 12th house), IVE's Wonyoung (ESFP, Pisces Moon), Britney Spears (ISFP, Mars in the 12th house, Neptune in the 3rd house, Mars Square Neptune, Neptune Opposition Midheaven), Lana Del Rey (ISFP, Pluto in the 12th house, Sun Opposition Neptune, Mars Opposition Neptune, Neptune trine Midheaven), Marilyn Monroe (ISFP, Pluto in the 12th house, Neptune in the 1st house, Moon Opposition Neptune), Billie Eilish (ISFP, Pisces Rising, Mars in Pisces, Moon + Uranus + Mars in the 12th house, Moon Conjunction Neptune, Saturn Trine Neptune), Blackpink's Jennie (ISFP, Pisces Venus, Moon Sextile Neptune, Venus Sextile Neptune), Taylor Swift (ESFJ, Mercury Conjunction Neptune), Ariana Grande (ESFJ, Neptune Conjunction Ascendant, Neptune in the 12th house), Olivia Rodrigo (ESFJ, Pisces Sun, Mercury Conjunction Neptune), SNSD's Taeyeon (ISFJ, Pisces Sun + Venus), Madison Beer (ENFJ, Pisces Sun, Neptune Sextile Chiron, Jupiter Sextile Neptune, Saturn Square Neptune, Mercury Sextile Neptune), IU (INFP, Pisces Moon, Sun Trine Neptune, Moon Sextile Neptune, Mercury Trine Neptune), Jenna Ortega (INFP, Moon Trine Neptune, Jupiter Opposition Neptune, Mercury Trine Neptune, Venus Square Neptune, Neptune Trine North Node, Sun Trine Neptune)

[cleapallea]

"This is what makes us connected and human."

MBTI: INTJ

ZODIAC SIGNS/ STAR: VIRGO SUN (CHART RULER ; LIBRA)

HOGWARTS HOUSE: SLYTHERCLAW

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[clairdelunascent]

Introverted Intuition or Ni, is characterized by their inclination towards “a-ha” moments and their symbol oriented perception of the world. With an innate talent for seeing meaning everywhere and striving towards their desired future, INxJs are unparalleled when it comes to big picture thinking.

Astrological placements that I associate with the Ni dominants, INTJ & INFJ:

Lilith in 10th, Venus in 10th, Lilith in 6th, Venus in 6th, Pluto in 6th, Saturn in 10th, Saturn in 11th.

<one track mind for success, a fine eye for detail, goal oriented, ambitious, a heavily analytical mind, and a stern and domineering presence amongst their peers.>

Pluto in 5th, Scorpio 4th, Scorpio 5th, Scorpio Juno, Aquarius/Uranus in 8th.

<hatred for small talk, all or nothing attitude towards relationships, a need for depth in their relationships, and finally for aquarius/uranus in 8th, a deep inquisitive mind that they use to break down their interests and hobbies.>

an updated repost. if you don’t have any of these and are an ni dom, i’m in no way discrediting you. these are just placements that give off the energy of ni inherently.

dt: my fellow ni dom, @8emstar8.

[ferie-anon]

Mbti dissections+Astrology (2)

🫧 Infps are literally everywhere, its also a bit easy to tell if they’re an infp. Like quite literally a go with the flow or “everything is fine, at least Im in one piece” type of manner. I have 4 infp friends and they are compassionate yet goofy lil softballs. Like ur talking about something and they will suddenly link it to something random. When we were mentioning bridgerton on netflix, my infp friend went: paddington? Like the bear? And we all went: huh?- Creative lil weirdos, they definitely have a way with words and creativity with their own thinking and ideas.

🫧 Isfjs are quite the giver for humanitarian things or aim to help for the wellbeing of people. They’re the type to donate blood, volunteer, or do work surrounding an organization that helps others. I have a friend who retook the test and got isfj, and altho she was sad cuz she wanted to still be a isfp lol. But it makes sense as she actually does a lot of humanitarian work and cares a lot about the wellbeing of her friends and etc. she volunteered to donate blood once but her iron level was too low, and she was always interested in learning ASL and even thought of being a ASL interpreter in the future. These ppl are naturally giving or drawn to helping others in some way.

🫧 I have a friend who is an estp and he is a very hardworking person and thoughtful person. These types are just as their mbti title suggest: “entrepreneur”. They get a lot of things done and yet with having p (perceiving) in their type, they can tend to over do it and end up lost in their own stuff and overwhelmed. Estps also show their love and care through actions such as doing things for their friends or getting them thoughtful gifts etc, they find it hard to express their love simply thru words and show it thru the quality time spent with their loved ones and physical/tangible affections and actions.

🫧 Astrology + Mbti section 🫧

Observations may not apply to everyone, take wut u resonate and relate with

🎀 Air and earth placements in a birthchart tends to analyze and be very eloquent and prepared on what to say. The air energy allows them to gather information and put together the concepts as earth placements can analyze or fixate upon the details for a deeper reasoning. Often times, these individuals with both these energies in their chart would have a t (thinking) or j (judging) in their mbti. The need to organize their findings and many concepts and ideas they can latch onto make them excellent speakers/debaters and detectives, articulate and precise.

🎀 Air and water placements, especially cancer and gemini, together in a birthchart can make them emotional and receptive to others emotions and social awareness. This leads to them to go with the flow or to try to offer an understanding level, its also why ppl find them easy to talk to and relating - allowing them to talk to these individuals while they offer a listening ear and comforting words. These individuals with these placements may have f (feeling) or p (perceiving) in their mbti. Able to adapt or not be judgmental of others differences, they are open to many different lifestyle, ideas, and people. Additionally with air + water in their chart, they can creatively channel their ideas a lot onto art or appeal to others with their own ways of expression and thinking.

🎀 I notice a few ppl with taurus sun/moon with taurus mercury in their chart could have an s (sensing) in their mbti. The way they think is more grounded with a sense of logic to it, they’re more calm and rational about realistic problems or ideas and may not jump to as much conclusions or assumptions as n (intuitive) type ppl (who may overthink a lot). The way they express themselves is in an honest and levelheaded way, not overly complicating things by sticking to their core principles and logical reasons to break it down.

[alchemical-astrology]

Sun in 12th House ★ Influence of Past Lives

As another astrology hypothesus that may not ring true, I've been thinking about whether a 12th house sun placement could indicate a present life that is ruled by past lives to a greater degree.

As th 12th house is the house of the occult, to have a sun sign placement in the 12th house could indicate a greater influence from the subconscious mind over present actions than other placements.

Predictions:

• likely to be Ni dominant (INFJ or INTJ) or possibly ENXJ.

• may have some sort of second sight

• may be an enneagram 4, 3, 7, or 5

• If a cardinal sign, may feel a very strong sense of forces beyond their control driving them. Has immense passion and drive but may feel like it comes from a source greater than just themselves

• present life may be the fulfillment of a wish from a past life

Just my thoughts!

[whimsicalpoet44]

Meyers-Briggs (MBTI) Types and the Astrology Placements I Associate With Each. (Part 2 of 4)

You'll notice a lot of the categories will have repeated signs. That's because they're similar.

+ there will be a little more info on INFJs in this one because I am an INFJ, so I'm speaking from experience. 😂 It's nothing personal.

This part contains the Diplomats.

These are my depictions based on my own opinion and experience. If these don't apply to you, that's okay! It's all about interpretation. If you disagree, I'd love to hear why. I'd also love to hear other placements you all associate with each. 😄

Diplomats

INFJ - The Advocate 🌙

Introverted | Intuitive | Feeling | Judging

I don't know if anyone's seen the tik tok where they talk about the "INFJ Door Slam," but all INFJs can reach a point where they can turn off their emotions and exit stage left in people's lives. This is usually prompted by some sort of event that violated their boundaries. Though I talk about the compassion and empathy of these placements, they're also all capable of going cold and mirroring a person's energy back to them. I thought that was important to note. This also applies to ENFJs.

🌕 All Pisces/12th House Placements: They make decisions based on emotion, therefore they are always in tune with their intuition. They're compassionate and want to give love to everyone around them (unless they do them wrong). They're known for wearing their heart on their sleeve while also keeping their emotions inward (usually). They're introspective and can evaluate a situation really well. They're super creative, always finding some sort of artistic medium to express themselves. They're introverts and don't mind spending time alone.

🌕 Scorpio Sun | Moon | Saturn | Rising: They're very intuitive and introverted. They are quite creative and are a good judge of character. If complex had a middle name, it would be Scorpio. They're also unique, loyal, supportive, and honest.

I originally wasn't going to put Scorpio on here because I felt that Scorpio's didn't outwardly express their emotion (but fit every other marker for an INFJ), but then I remembered that they have big hearts that can bleed empathy outwardly in certain moments. I also felt that they were more of the analyst category because of their detective like tendencies. (Although, many people associate Scorpio with INFJ, but I couldn't make it make sense in my brain for a hot minute)

However, Scorpios will wear a stone cold expression while stopping and saving a kitten from the side of the road, while also calling their boss and complaining about the fact that they're going to be late for work because they had to stop (but they never could've driven past the kitten and left it). Then they'd use their PTO to take the kitten to the vet and show it so much affection, while pretending they hate it in front of their partner. (Oddly specific, I know. But I know a Scorpio whose an INFJ and it's so pure lol)

Another example is that they'll push their coldness aside and wear their heart on their sleeve for a child who wants to connect with them. They'd suffer through their uncomfortable feelings of vulnerability to ensure that the child knows they care and to give them the nurturing they wish they had gotten in childhood. They'd never want the child to feel like they didn't like them.

They aren't cold hearted people. No, they bleed empathy internally. They just try to protect themselves by presenting themselves to others as cold and calculated. But those small moments? They're so wholesome and amazing to witness. And I felt like it was important to highlight.

🌕 Cancer Rising | Venus | Moon: They're warm, supportive, and communicative. They're compassionate and empathetic. They're also sensitive to criticism and can be hesitant to trust others at first. They're super nurturing, intuitive and thoughtful.

🌕 Libra Sun | Rising | Moon | Venus | Chiron: Though some may think Libra's are extroverted, they can be introverted. They gain a lot of independence because they hate to bother the people they care about. They don't want to be a burden. They're super compassionate and super empathetic. They help others because they believe it's the right thing to do.

🌕 Aquarius Venus | Moon: They understand others emotions and carry a lot of empathy. They do what's right because they're humanitarians. Their empathy guides them. Though they can be really analytical, when placed in Venus and the Moon, they're driven by emotion. They're also intuitive and great at judging situations and determining which path to take.

🌕 Sagittarius Jupiter | Pluto: They want the world to be a better place. They're honest and supportive. Look at Gen Z. They're the Pluto in Sag generation. They support each other and have a lot of empathy, while the entire generation is also simultaneously really introverted. (Not meaning the whole generation are INFJs, just that it's something likely to appear in the chart). Jupiter sees this on an individual level. They're guided by their altruism.

🌕 9th House Water Placements: Strong sense of justice. Considerate and honest about their opinions. They'd be able to tie their beliefs and principles to their empathy and compassion, which could make them more likely to act on emotion. (While also being intuitive because all water signs are really intuitive).

**Honorable mention: Virgo placements. They didn't quite make the cut because I feel like they compartmentalize their emotions and are likely to act on logic rather than emotion. But someone might have correlating placements. But I don't immediately associate them with INFJs.

INFP - The Mediator 🌎

Introverted | Intuitive | Feeling | Perceiving

🌕 Scorpio Sun | Moon | Rising | Mars: THIS is where I see Scorpio thriving. INFPs have a colder persona, they're slow to open up, and incredibly loyal. All traits of Scorpio. They're also extremely perceptive and creative. They act on perception and their intuition simultaneously.

🌕 Capricorn Moon | Saturn | Rising | Sun | Mars | Venus: They come off as calm and put together, but they're really probably anxious. They're constantly wondering if they're doing a good enough job. Not to mention, childhood trauma might have them readily scanning their environment, perceiving everything. They feel deeply, contrary to what many believe. They're definitely introverted, though they can appear extroverted if necessary. They're fiercely loyal and supportive to the people they love, and they're thoughtful when they're 100% sure about someone. They're also usually really spiritually gifted, but I think most people overlook this quality to them. Which gives them excellent intuition.

🌕 Libra Placements in 4th | 8th | 12th House: Super diplomatic, they're always mediating some sort of misunderstanding. They're intuitive and act on their feelings. They likely are more introverted. They care about peace and justice, and connect with people on a spiritual level.

🌕 Moon Conjunct Jupiter: They easily inspire others and know just what to do to diffuse conflict. They're very empathetic and they can perceive those around them quite well. They're overly optimistic and super supportive of the people around them.

🌕 Pisces in the 8th House: They'd embody all of the traits associated with INFPs while also being super perceptive. They could be more hesitant to open up and a lot more stressed. They're creative and imaginative.

🌕 Virgo in the 4th | 8th | 12th House: They're overly anxious and easily stressed. They're likely to be introverted and really perceptive. They might still be more analytical about their emotions, but they fit this category a lot better than INFJs. They're perceptive and thoughtful, and sometimes have a cold persona. In a water house, they might be more inclined to act on their emotions.

ENFJ - The Protagonist 📚

Extroverted | Intuitive | Feeling | Judging

🌕 Aquarius/11th House Placements: They're community oriented and are often really social and friendly. They consider how their actions will impact the people around them. They're always thinking of the bigger picture.

🌕 Moon-Venus Aspects: These individuals might be more inclined to avoid confrontation and have a deep desire to be well liked. They'll others before themselves and they're overly empathetic.

🌕 Libra Rising | Moon | Venus | Sun | Mars: They don't like conflict. They want to be liked and will avoid hurting others' feelings. They're empathetic, warm, thoughtful, and social. While also being really sensitive to criticism and overly idealistic, often having unrealistic expectations in relationships. It won't be sustainable unless they take care of themselves, too.

🌕 Virgo Placements Interacting With Libra Placements: Two words - People. Pleaser. They want to be perceived well. They're thoughtful and might consider how their actions will impact others. They love having a values system and are really sensitive to criticism.

🌕 Gemini Sun | Moon | Mercury | Rising | Jupiter: Super charismatic. They're always engaging with the people around them and considering their beliefs and opinions. Others are captivated when they speak. They're definitely big picture thinkers.

🌕 Taurus Moon | Rising | Saturn: They're big picture thinkers. They're constantly planning for the future, including the people they love in their equation. They're intuitive and appreciate the arts. They can be super poetic. And they're always energized in spaces where they can share experiences with others.

ENFP - The Campaigner 🐝

Extroverted | Intuitive | Feeling | Perceiving

🌕 Gemini Placements: They're super enthusiastic and love being in social situations. They're big picture thinkers and they're super intelligent. They're also super creative. They can get overwhelmed and have trouble staying on task. They're also super prone to having problems focusing and over thinking (Especially a Gemini Mercury).

🌕 Leo Sun | Mars | Mercury | Saturn | Rising: These individuals are super extroverted. They constantly seek approval from others. They're very creative and and caring. They can miss important details because they're big picture thinkers. They can get fixated on connections that don't truly exist, letting their ego misperceive situations and communication.

🌕 Libra Placements: Flexible individuals, they care for others deeply. They can get easily overwhelmed and are prone to overthinking. They're creative and can get along with just about anyone.

🌕 Sagittarius Rising | Venus: These individuals have a free spirit. They're super creative and they cannot stay on task to save their life (mostly). They like to go with the flow and they're super caring.

🌕 Aries Placements: They're spontaneous (and impulsive), enthusiastic, extroverted, and can seek approval from the people around them. They could get angry when they 're misperceived. They can remember a lot of details and they can be super inspiring. They're also really personable.

[hermitessun]

what the hell did god put in estps/scorpio mcs..: fentanyl?!

[hansoheebg]

le sserafim’s birth charts

Sakura - 19/03/98

sun : pisces

moon : scorpio/sagittarius

mercury : aries

venus : aquarius

mars : aries

jupiter : pisces

lilith : libra

Chaewon - 01/08/00

sun : leo

moon : leo

mercury : cancer

venus : leo

mars : leo/virgo

jupiter : gemini

lilith : capricorn

Yunjin - 08/10/01

sun : libra

moon : gemini

mercury : libra (r)

venus : virgo

mars: capricorn

lilith : pisces

(possibly a libra rising)

Kazuha - 09/08/03

sun : leo

moon : capricorn

mercury : virgo

venus : leo

mars : pisces

lilith : taurus

Eunchae - 10/11/06

sun : scorpio

moon : cancer

mercury : scorpio

venus : scorpio

mars : scorpio

jupiter : scorpio

lilith : libra

My guesses for their rising signs are:

Sakura: scorpio/aries

Chaewon: cancer

Yunjin: libra/gemini

Kazuha: virgo

Eunchae: sagittarius

[no1heyyyyyyyy]

About Me!

Okay, so I said I'd do this, so here we go.

I am autistic and have ADHD. Am AFAB, nonbinary lesbian (they/them pronouns), in love with chocolate milkshakes, tired as hell, mixed (black/white). Femme (but casual, because I don't have the energy to put make up on everyday, but I respect the people that do and appreciate the ones that don't). I'm also demi-ace, so it takes me awhile to warm up to people sexually (and I have to have an emotional and romantic attraction that is reciprocated). I am a chronic baker and cook, a pagan, and I plan to become a clinical and criminal psychologist that specializes in extremely uncommon mental disorders.

I am a Libra Sun, Scorpio Moon, and an Aries Rising. An ENFP 9w8 and a cat person (but I still am fond of dogs). I dress like a broke pastel flower shop worker meets goth runway model. Do with that what you will and have a nice day.

[ven0mouswitch]

My personality type is ESFP

Idrk what that means tho soo would someone pls lmk? I should know im literally in university studying to be a psychiatrist

I’ll love u 5ever !

(Thankyouuu in advance) kisses xo

[typologyastro]

MBTI & Astrology Observations

🥀 1. Moon/Pluto aspects give off Ni, introverted intuition vibe. Dominant/auxiliary/tertiary Ni users may have Moon/Pluto aspects. They may indicate problems or a strong bond with their mother. Their emotions are intense. I've seen easy Moon/Pluto aspects (Trine, Sextile, Conjunction) are often INFJ, INTJ, ENFJ and ISFP.

Hard Moon/Pluto aspects have to learn to make peace with their intense feelings. One ENTJ I know personally has Moon Opposition Pluto. She has a complicated relationship with her mother and jealous tendency. ENTJs have inferior Fi so it's likely difficult for them to manage their intense feelings. They likely ignore their feelings or explode.

Another INFJ I know in real life has Moon Trine Pluto. His mother is feisty and strong. He loves and admires his mother. Women have big influence on him. He has a healing gift he may not realize in himself.

For example: Fujii Kaze (INFJ, Moon Sextile Pluto), Twice's Mina (INFJ, Moon Sextile Pluto), Madison Beer (ENFJ, Moon Sextile Pluto), Jodie Foster (INTJ, Moon Conjunction Pluto), BTS's Yoongi (INTJ, Moon Sextile Pluto), Avril Lavigne (ISFP, Moon Conjunction Pluto) The Weeknd (ISFP, Moon Conjunction Pluto), Blackpink's Jennie (ISFP, Moon Conjunction Pluto), Billie Eilish (ISFP, Moon Sextile Pluto) , Brad Pitt (ISFP, Moon Trine Pluto), Leonardo DiCaprio (ESFP, Moon Conjunction Pluto), Vanessa Hudgens (ESFP, Moon Trine Pluto)

🥀 2. The next similar indicator is Scorpio Moon for Ni/Se users. I've often seen Ni + Te/Fi users (INTJ, ENTJ, ISFP and ESFP) have this placement. Another ENTJ I know personally has Scorpio Moon. He gives off a dangerous, mysterious and suspicious aura.

My explanation for Moon/Pluto aspects and Scorpio Moon give off strong Ni - introverted intuition is because I associate Ni with Pluto, Fe & Fi with Moon & Neptune.

For example: Epik High's Tablo (INTJ, Scorpio Moon), Lady Gaga (ISFP, Scorpio Moon), Hayden Christensen (ISFP, Scorpio Moon), Avril Lavigne (ISFP, Scorpio Moon), Taylor Monsen (ISFP, Scorpio Moon), Dove Cameron (ISFP, Scorpio Moon), The Weeknd (ISFP, Scorpio Moon), Katy Perry (ISFP, Scorpio Moon), Blackpink's Jennie (ISFP, Scorpio Moon), Blackpink's Lisa (ESFP, Scorpio Moon), Lily-Rose Depp (ISFP, Scorpio Moon), Miley Cyrus (ESFP, Scorpio Moon), Kylie Jenner (ESFP, Scorpio Moon)

🥀 3. Blackpink's Lisa has Venus Trine Pluto. Kendall Jenner has Venus Conjunction Pluto. Blackpink's Jennie has Venus Square Pluto. They are known for their captivating and sexy beauty caused by Venus/Pluto aspects but how the audience feels about each of them can be totally different.

Lisa's passionate dance performances and doll-like appearance stand out in the crowd.

Kendal is the eptimote of how I envision a Venus/Pluto beauty looks like: sharp, tall, dark and mysterious.

Jennie has the most RBF, intimidating and edgy look out of the three. Her reputation is also the most polarizing.

Jennie seems to get hated the most. People mesmerize by Lisa and Kendal's beauty more while Jennie's face both attracts admirers and invokes hatred and jealousy the most. Venus/Pluto beauty generally creates strong impact on people. It's hard to forget their beauty.

It's fascinating to observe how easy and difficult aspects play out in real life. Easy Venus/Pluto aspects are more Venusian and hard Venus/Pluto aspects are more Plutonian.

Kendal is an ISTJ, Jennie is an ISFP and Lisa is an ESFP. They all have a Te/Fi axis.

🥀 4. Dove Cameron was born one day before Blackpink's Jennie and they are both ISFPs and Scorpio Moon. Their chart are almost identical (without knowing their birth time).

[transmutationisms]

Is mbti pseudoscience ? Also what makes a term pseudoscience ? Is it the people involved? Lack of empirical evidence? Inability to replicate the results?

this is called the demarcation problem and philosophers of science have not settled it. i find this debate trite because it's generally framed around ahistorical, apolitical, asocial notions of 'science' as a set of disembodied ideas rather than as a family of knowledge practices occurring and evaluated in specific social contexts. for example, if we call phrenology a 'pseudoscience' we end up making nonsense of the historical observation that phrenological ideas were part of scientific discourses, practices, and experimentation throughout the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. people measuring skulls and trying to map out localised brain functions were engaging in scientific activities; scientific inquiry is capable of producing ideas that are wrong, racist, internally contradictory, &c. one of the main ideological functions of the label 'pseudoscience' has been & continues to be providing a foil for its counterpart, the ideal of 'science' as an inherently noble and truth-producing activity.

it's dangerous to reify the sort of dichotomy that doesn't permit for the existence of scientific error, bias, or ideological taint; it also obscures the internal logic of previous modes of thinking and epistemological frameworks (bloodletting was not just something doctors did because they were stupid; astrology historically depended on particular cosmologies and philosophical axioms) and makes it extremely difficult to say anything worthwhile about practices and ideas that have been designated 'scientific' or 'pseudoscientific', 'orthodox' or 'heterodox', in different historical moments and places. it's easy to see the designation 'pseudoscience' as a neutral or even politically astute denigration of bullshittery or charlatanism, but consider also that powerful institutions, individuals, professional guilds, and states are just as capable of slinging accusations of 'pseudoscientificity' at those they wish to marginalise for various political and ideological reasons. one recent example of this is the fairly contentious argument over the basic and unfortunately true assertion that many respiratory illnesses, particularly covid, are airborne. the process of deciding whose ideas are bunk, and whose are proper science, occurs in social context just as much as the formation and dissemination of the ideas themselves does.

anyway if what you mean is "are the mbti categories real / fixed / universal human 'types'" then the answer is no, definitely not, it was always a philosophically unjustified taxonomy-forward attempt to bring jungian psychology to the masses that caught on with hiring departments and corporate consultants, and that more than a few people have compared to a kind of 'updated' astrological discourse on the 'personality' expressed in today's scientifically fashionable language rather than yesteryear's. now see if every psy-scientific discourse to which a similar critique applies were to be described as 'pseudoscience' then we would have an awfully hard time explaining what exactly are the professional activities their exponents are engaging in all day, and meanwhile we would have very handily preserved the fiction that there is some other, nobler, properly scientific discipline of psychology magically free of all such inconvenient history and conceptual baggage.

[iren-n-ire]

Astrology Observation 14

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Neptune in the third house can communicate to spirits, a medium or they wanna try it because it's intriguing to them.

Neptunian Aquarius talks about astrology (or writes about it like me right now lol) all the time, anything supernatural or occult. I also see this as a believer of the two sides which one of the reasons' people's beliefs are split: Science vs. Religion, aquarius are connected to the Field of Science. In short, they are 50% on both sides and sometimes it causes a chaos because we all know duality comes with a price too, below will be a bonus if the native is into occult or divination:

Neptunian Aquarius in the third house always thinks about the future and fantasizes about it. This screams a huge psychic placement. Siblings have psychic skills too and it runs in the generation of their family (Pisces in fourth house). Their neighbors experience supernatural or doing things related to it and the same goes to the native because their Pisces in the fourth house

Aquarius in the third house talks and thinks logically, after all it's an air sign. Even if the native has water placements, they still prefer the logical side (like me lol) which shows that they convert their feelings into something a else: intellectualizing, hypothesizing etc., like a genius would do🤣)

Since their Libra is in the 11th house, most of their friends may be girls or has dominant feminine energy. Again, it's an air sign which denotes that their friends maybe logical, mbti has STJ, active love life, and their friends may fall in love with them?

I have a Leo Sun friend who had a past crush on me

Uranus in the fourth house native rebels against traditional stuffs, they will call out the dirty things of the tradition of or about families such as women doing housework, men not performing home chores because they're men, and

This is nothing special because it's already obvious but Pisces or Neptune in the third or fourth house can have Pisces siblings

I have 2 Pisces Sun siblings, (I'm a Neptune in 3h Aquarius native, Uranian Pisces in 4th: Tropical)

Jupiter in the seventh house have so many crushes or people are crushing on them, they may have multiple exes too; popular people even if they keep a low-key profile

Capricorn in the second house are the provider type in the family and in their other relationships, a living maneuver. Another indicator if their saturn is in the eighth house because they may also want to manage other people's money: Gift giving and acts of service is definitely their love language.

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[ferie-anon]

Mbti Dissections+Astrology

- P vs J ppl: The way they argue and reason is different. P ppl rather live in their own ideals and thoughts and peace rather than defend and analyze whether what they think is accurate or other logical grounds. P ppl use their imagination and own interpretation of logic to argue. P ppl rather not rationalize it too much. J ppl try to make sense or think of all the possible ways of an argument and ideology, J ppl have a more logical way to wrap around things and they interpret things with more of the groundwork from previous concepts they’ve learned, etc so when they are confused or disagree with an argument they try to analyze it down or organize it with the facts and reasoning they recall.

- N vs S: Intuition vs. Sensing. Although they sound different, they are relatively similar except distinct in their approach. N ppl tend to appeal and express their care and approach emotionally and abstractly, whereas S ppl tend to relay their thoughts and approach through a more “grounded” and “sensible” way. For instance, an N person might try to put themselves in their friends shoes when they try to comfort them and acknowledge their emotions. An S person might try to comfort and then solve the solution or talk it out with their friend to help them with their concerns or feelings. The approaches are different but ofc both types care for their friends and loved ones. Additionally I notice n ppl talk a lot about different things in conversations and s ppl may sometimes join in or not rlly add on to the conversation.

- E vs I ppl: Extrovert vs. Introvert. It’s kind of easy to distinct between these, no it’s not simply because one likes to talk more and the other is quiet (although that is one aspect). E ppl like to hang out and get energy from meeting ppl and engaging in conversations. I ppl prefer some alone time and NEED time to recharge, ofc they may also like talking to ppl but the difference is that they lose energy after and need some time to recharge alone. Extroverted ppl can keep up or have more energy in terms of talking and expressing to others because they enjoy doing so and etc. Ofc being an extrovert or introvert can fluctuate since it changes in circumstances and extroverts may feel like introverts at times and also lose energy.

(Additionally there are ppl who are ambiverts in between so when taking the mbti test, they may be categorized as an E or I but it may be interchangeable based on the situation and time)

Mbti is a personality type of identification, and ofc not everyone will be exactly the same. Some of these may apply to most ppl but not all.

Here’s also some astrology placements + mbti observations (may not be true to every placement):

🎧 Virgo moons may have a J in their mbti due to their nature of trying to logicalize and organize their reasonings, thoughts, and need for structure and details.

My gemini sun virgo moon friend is an intj and me as a libra sun virgo moon I retook and got infj. We both think similarly in our focus for details and approach in arguments and thinking.

🎧 Sag moons and fire moons may have f or p in their mbti due to how they tend to express and follow their heart, empathize with others, and prefer not to have a specific structure or plan when doing activities etc, often having some impulsive choices/decisions.

My friend who is a virgo sun sag moon is an enfp, the sag moon rlly makes her clumsy and chaotic at times despite her being a virgo lol. I also have a gemini sun leo moon friend and she’s an infp, sensitive and heartwarming, she used to be an isfp 2 years ago. Both of them are very compassionate people with others emotions and expressing their own.

🎧 Scorpio moons may have an s in their mbti, most Scorpio moons struggled with power dynamics early on and had to develop practical and rational problem-solving skills to gain back a sense of personal power and earn respect. Therefore, as a skeptical moon sign that has an eye for detail they value logical thinking skills and common sense over theorizing.

My friend’s bosses often had estj or istj placements. And her grandma who is a taurus sun scorpio moon is an isfj. These MBTI types are also known for implementing a lot of control over others and their careers as they often fit authoritative positions due to their commanding qualities. Her grandma nitpicks about a lot of things at dinner time, is specific about her interests and likes-dislikes, and logical when reasoning with others.

[alchemical-astrology]

Alchemical Symbolism In The Tarot | Part 1

One interpretation of alchemy (by Carl Jung, whose work inspired the MBTI) is that it represents the process of individuation (development of a full fledged adult personality).

One alchemical symbol that has suggested links to the tarot is that of the green lion eating the sun. There are a few symbolic means of this and most of them are to do with the sun as the ego or consciousness and the green lion as a greater spiritual self that devours it (symbolising ego death as a stage in the journey to individuation)

Does The Alchemical Lion Have Any Connection To The Strength Card?

I did wonder this as the sign Leo is also about ego and the strength card CAN (in some interpretations) represent us suppressing or trying to tame our emotional selves, subconscious mind, or shadow (which is why shadow work is so hard!)

Even good cards can have 'double edged sword' explanations (just like 'bad' cards). Strength can be a great card to get if you need strength in the classic way to get through difficult times. But sometimes it's important to use less strength over ourselves and just let things be. The emotional water signs (pisces, cancer, and often scorpio) tend to be best at this, as do NP and SP mbti types. Essentially, instead of taming the lion on the card, what about just letting it be? This can be an interpretation of the best course of action when strength reversed shows up. In some ways, this is part of the process of shadow work.

*this is not to say Leos are really ego driven! Ultimately every sign is to some extent. However many people do believe that there are connections between tarot, astrology, and alchemy, which is ngl super interesting and something I am planning on doing more posts on- so the same animal symbolism appearing across disciplines felt worth mentioning.

[plutonian-moon]

random astro

observations p6 !! ☆° ✩࿐

take what resonates leave what doesn't!!

▪2H aqua/cap (both saturn ruled) can have bad self esteem !!tw : ed!! : they can even struggling with food & body image !!end of tw!! ☆

▪we 12th housers need alone time to process thoughts and feelings ! ☆

▪4H gemini/IC-mercury/4H mercury can mean that u r oversharing family issues that u have or ur childhood trauma ☆

▪mutable dominants can changing their personality alot even without meaning this its just comes naturally to them !! ☆

▪u cant change minds peoples who r fixed dominants lmao ☆

▪3H uranus/aquarius mercury/mercury-uranus have very chaotic minds ☆

▪3H moons/gemini moons wants venting 2 someone when feeling bad about how they r feeling or just about this situation 2 feel better or u maybe like writing ur feelings alot bc this can help u ! ☆

▪3H placements (esp venus) + gemini placements in big 6 have pretty hands ☆

▪4H saturns/4H cap have parents that never allow u to have fun bc they were very strict :-( ☆

▪pisces placemets/stelliums can have artistic gifts ! ☆

▪5H is telling u about ur hobbies so here r some examples which hobbies u can have based of ur 5H placement/s , 5H cusp + 5H ruler :

5H pisces/5H neptune - drawing, spirituality/occultism, paranormal things, psychology, music, astrology, numerology ☆

5H gemini/5H virgo/5H mercury - writing, literature, history, sociology, mbti (u can like finding who u r bc u can struggle with this or just 4 fun) also with 5H virgo im thing of health relating topics like u can b very interested in reading about mental health issues for example also u can b very picky about ur hobby hmm with 5H gemini u can change ur hobby alot or have many hobby at once lolol and u can be very open 2 new hobbies ! ☆

5H scorpio/5H pluto - occultism, psychology, criminology, taboo topics (traumas etc), astrology, mbti, horror movies/games, with this placement u can b secretive about ur hobbies or only small group of peoples close 2 u know about them yea ☆

5H libra/5H taurus/5H venus - fashion, designing clothes, makeup, drawing ☆

5H sagittarius/5H jupiter - learnings new languages, others countries/cultures, philosophy and u can also b very open to trying new hobbies i think its just mutable signs energy lol ☆

5H aquarius/5H uranus - games, astrology, mbti, hmm im thinking of some unique hobby with aquarius energy like ur hobbies can be very different from others peoples ☆

▪aquarius placements/dominants can makes that u will fighting for lgbt+ rights etc u just cant stand homophobic, racism etc !

▪6H uranus + 10H uranus can changing their jobs alot ☆

▪u can relate to ur draconic chart more if u dont relate to ur natal chart ☆

▪persona charts can tell u alot more about specific placement than looking ONLY in this placement in ur natal chart ☆

▪12th house rules hidden enemies .. when u r like me 12th houser then u need to b careful with peoples bc they can b ur hidden enemies hmm (esp when u have 12h sun, 12h mercury, 12h venus, 12h lilith, 12h pluto, 12h mars) ..

when u have for example ☆ :

mercury in 12h then ur hidden enemies can be peoples that r "friends" with u .. they will b just faking that they like u but .. they will b secretly hate u and talk shit about u .. ☆

▪when u r 12th houser then peoples energy can draining u alot .. so thats why its important 2 have alone time ! ☆

▪chiron in 1h, 4h, 7h and 10h can makes that others easly see ur pain (this can apply also 2 asc-chiron and sun-chiron peoples (esp. conjunctions) ☆

▪virgo 2h/aquarius 2h r picky when it comes 2 eating food ☆

▪3h also rules school hmm ur 3h sign + 3h ruler sign and house + aspects can give u how u r in school, how others see u in school !! ALSO CHECK 3H PLANETS IF U HAVE ANY ! ☆