#m-spec identities

[polygamousfistingchaos]

Complexpunk

For anyone who has a complex identity and thinks anyone who doesn't support them can fuck off.

This includes:

- M-spec gays, lesbians, enbians, etc

- Xenogender users

- Gaybians

- Lesboys/Turigirls

- Label and gender hoarders

- Cuspers (people who are between cis and trans)

- Gendered agender people

- Transfemmasc people

and more

Other variations + symbol

[crows-templets]

mspec lesbians arent valid kys, ur just str8 w extra steps :3

Hi! I don’t usually respond to asks like this but I think I need to address this

I am not an m-spec lesbian, so if you’re intent was to hurt an m-spec lesbian, you didn’t by harassing us.

Telling someone to kill themself is NEVER ok. Even if you hate them. It’s not ok and you shouldn’t be proud of it.

It’s not being straight with extra steps, and the way you phrased this makes it seems like being straight is bad. It’s not, it’s ok to be straight

And finally! M-spec lesbians aren’t hurting anyone! It’s confusing yes sure. But it makes people feel comfortable with themselves and they aren’t actually hurting anyone! Unlike you, who is harassing people in their inbox.

You don’t get an award for being a bad person.

Thank you.

[thereareeyesinsidethetrees]

this is a good time to mention that i'm going to be including a lot of xenogenders in the project, so if you don't support xenogenders uh. let me know so i can block you i guess

i'll also be including m-spec identities. so if you don't support m-spec identities let me know so i can block you

pride month is going to be fun (genuine)

[thermodynamic-comedian]

bigender polysexual girlguy who's attracted to women and men and others alike, all in a lesbian way.

[fagweave]

'Good faith identities' "Radically Inclusive" or you know. Not feeling the need to police queer people's sense of identity, you know, like how cisheteronomative society has done to us for centuries.

[arco-pluris]

Hello If you see this I would appreciate the Help. I am a guy and I have always been very very attracted to men they are physically hot, and i am also sexually attracted to them. When I think of guys I always think of having a future together and I look forward to relationships with them, I always get butterflies as well Ik that’s very gay. But when it comes to women I feel bad cause the only time I ever liked one was one girl from my old school, and i didn’t see the fact that she was a girl I just liked her for her, I thought of dating her and had sexual feelings towards her as well ( I said she was my one exception some other gay friends said it’s not common but there are some whom are rare but do experience this ) I never went with her but I did think of it. But fast forward to today when I think of women their chest just doesn’t attract me in any way, when some dress in front of me cause I’m gay and they think I wouldn’t like them which I just don’t feel any any attraction to women when they dress in front of me, or any butterflies in my stomach when looking at them and I don’t even plan our future. I do get sad tho because I want to like women but I just don’t and don’t get me wrong they are extremely gorgeous but I just don’t really feel anything. But when I’m looking at a video of them in a tight fitted dress sometimes I accidentally look at their outfit at their chest area ofc I don’t stare cause I don’t want to make them uncomfortable but I think omg their outfits are such a slay but sometimes in the very rare occasions I always ask myself am I attracted to this or do I find this hot. And sometimes I’d search up women on those yk “sites” to see do I like this and most times I see and then I’m like well I don’t feel anything, but I’m the very slight chance I sometimes find the situation hot and that makes me think the woman is hot. And Ik you can find ppl attractive without being attracted to them but sometimes I’m sexually attracted to them but only if I come across them on a site. Cause I’m the occasion that a woman irl comes into me I don’t feel anything and I feel nothing. No sexual interest when they actually do something or romantic. But if it’s online from a site cause I was looking at men and came across them I end up finding it hot and am attracted to them but only in the moment. Cause day to day life I’d see how gorgeous women can be and I just don’t feel anything. When it’s a man tho I don’t have to ask if I like this, and when I see them I feel butterflies as well as the tension. But women in person I don’t even feel sexual tension I’m a confusing person..

Please help idk what’s wrong with my feelings and I’m wondering if I’m still valid as gay ? Or is there a term or sexuality or whatever to describe how I am or something ? Honestly any input would help ofc only if you can, cause I’m so confused right now.

(anon sent october 27)

nothing wrong. bold of you to think I would be the one to say something is wrong. but at least I feel these feelings are very common. the thing is: would you still be curious about it? because I consider being curious a defining identity for some, including myself.

another thing to look at is: borea-, gynecurious (or heterocurious), androflexible, minflex, maflex, try-, pre-, cupiogex, and merascic.

you could be a merasscic gynecurious/homoflexible (aniso-).

if you find these forms of attraction get blurry or mixed together, try aestheti-, apres-, or quoi-.

you could also question yourself if that's really attraction or it's desire (libido/stimulus) or corporeal response. idk if you'd be worried with comphet or not. cogitari- or poeti- could be used together with a femaric/fin- identity.

[nunyverse-scribe]

Silly things happening to my psyche as a genderfluid individual, such as my mind suddenly wondering “is my attraction to guys as achillean as my attraction to women is sapphic???” cus for some reason I need to question my gender and its relationship to my sexuality again

[lilliaace]

I'm going to put this as nicely as possible.

You're fifteen, according to your bio/pinned post. I'm 30. I have been alive literally twice the time you've been alive in this world. You are a baby queer. I don't mean that demeaningly. I mean this as to say this - you don't know smack about the LGBTQ world beyond the walls of the internet, maybe a queer club at your local school (high school if you're in the USA).

The online and club spaces for the LGBTQ world are so incredibly sanitized, period.

No, bi lesbians and their sister labels (pan lesbians, omni lesbians, polysexual lesbians, straightbians, fagdykes, lesboys, asexual lesbians, aromantic lesbians, etc.) ARE NOT putting their lesbian/dyke sisters in danger, period.

Pushing that the idea of "m spec lesbian" is somehow damaging...

victim blaming for ladies attempted to be 'forced converted' by straight men

Xenophobic towards MANY global gender IDs that are specific to certain cultures (2-spirit for indigenous USA tribes, Hijra in India, etc.)

Shifts the blame from the rapist to the victim, regardless of circumstances

Also minimizes the fact that asshole men are going to be asshole men, regardless of whoever they're being a jerk to. A jerk is going to be an asshole, regardless.

The idea of a "m spec lesbian" has been around FOR YEARS. Documented since at LEAST the 1950s.

I strongly recommend reading "Stone Butch Blues" and "The Stonewall Generation" as well as "PoMoSexuals: Challenging Assumptions About Gender and Sexuality"

You might get lucky and find them at your local library. There's a free PDF floating around of Stone Butch Blues. I got Stonewall Generation by going to a LIVE PRIDE event that was local. You should be able to find them on Google Shopping, Amazon, Ebay, and/or Mercari.

Human sexuality is complicated, period. Many women who were exclusively (or almost exclusively) attracted to other women often paired up with men for the sake of affection, protection, and companionship rather than genuine attraction (Elenor Roosevelt and Virginia Woolf are the first two famous people who come to mind). Also, Kristen Stewart recently came out as a bi lesbian in a recent interview.

We exist, period. NO ONE is helping by LGBTQ identity policing. Y'all are only hurting yourself. PLEASE talk to real life queer people face to face, beyond the safety net of social media and school clubs. You will learn so much.

[arklayraven]

Current VNs characters I know that are canonly ace, aro, aroace, demi and other identities that fall on the ace and/or aro spectrum. With sources and game links (if available).

Inspired by my list of pan rep in VNs too.

Will update if more are found or such.

(Updated: 10/23/24)

⚠️ Notice: This post for listing canon characters who fall on the ace and/or aro spectrum from visual novel games(whether officially released, demos, etc). Not about the devs and any possible issues they had in the past. So please keep any/all discussions over them off this post. ⚠️

Intertwine

Van (demisexual)

Source | Game

Mushroom Oasis

Mychael (asexual panromantic)

Sources: 1 | 2 | Game

14 Days With You

Ren (demi/pansexual)

Elanor (demi/panromantic + asexual)

Leon (demi/pansexual)

Source | Game

The Kid At The Back

Geo (asexual)

Source | Game

Where Winter Crows Go

Crowe (demisexual and demi-panromantic)

Aspen (graysexual and panromantic)

Source | Source | Archive source | Game

Repurpose

Noel (asexual panromantic)

Source | Game

Sweet Tooth

Andre (pansexual/demi)

Source | Game

Your Guardian Angel

Noel (pan/demi)

Joel (bi/ace)

Source | Game

Colored Gaze

Zachary (demi)

Source (broken/unavailable, explanation why, with archive source screenshot and more) | Game

Our Life: Beginnings & Always

Cove (panromantic demisexual, previous labeled as pansexual too)

Sources: 1 | 2 | Game

XOXO Droplets

Bae (asexual)

Source | Game

My Dear Hatchet Man

Erika (biromantic and demisexual, with a preference for women)

Source | Game

Alaris

Etza (demisexual)

Aisa (demisexual)

Source | Game

Broken Colors

Rasmus (demiromantic)

Milla (asexual)

Shadowman (bisexual and demisexual)

Sources: 1 | 2 | 3 | Game

Klein v.0.1

Yael (demisexual)

Source | Game

Hummingbird's Crown

Wren (demisexual and panromantic)

Galvin (graysexual and demi-biromantic)

Lonan (asexual and panromantic)

Sources: 1 | 2 | 3 | Archive source | Game

Panacea: Rebirth

Angis (demisexual and panromantic)

Nox (aroace)

Sources: 1 | 2 | Archive source | Game

Killer Trait

Oz (graysexual and biromantic)

Fawna (demisexual and demi-biromantic)

Arthur (aroace)

Carl (pansexual and demi-panromantic)

Sources: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | Archive source | Game

Potion Pleasing

Parker (asexual and panromantic)

Rue (asexual and gray-panromantic)

Sources: 1 | 2 | Archive source | Game

Petrichor

Pommy (graysexual and demi-biromantic)

Source | Archive source | Game

Monochrome Pixels

Diana (graysexual and demi-biromantic)

Enya (asexual and panromantic)

Sources: 1 | 2 | Archive source | Game

Magical Warrior Diamond Heart

Sophie (lesbian and asexual)

Amber (asexual and aromantic)

Liam (bisexual and demisexual)

Source | Game

Pushing Up Daisies

Oliver (unsure / demisexual)

Source | Game

Restart Heart

Willow (demiromantic)

Xiomara (aroace)

Asha (aroace)

Sources: 1 | 2 | Game

Here For Sweethearts!

Vasilis (unlabelled m-spec ace)

Mary (bi ace)

Reginald (bi ace)

Acanthibar (aro)

Source | Game

Astoria: Fate's Kiss & Astoria: Lost Kisses

Josh (aromantic asexual)

Athena (aromantic asexual)

Source | Game

Love & Legends

Imohn Idreis (aromantic asexual)

Source | Game

Havenfall is for Lovers

Levana Helsing (asexual biromantic)

John Lapin (asexual biromantic)

Source | Game

Sweet Enchantments

Emeril Everbloom (demisexual lesbian)

Elyscia Volalin (asexual biromantic)

Source | Game

Queen of Thieves

Nikolai Stirling (demisexual pansexual)

Raveena Patel (demisexual)

Source | Game

Sin With Me

Malakai Collins (demisexual)

Nahara (bisexual demisexual)

Source | Game

Would You Stay?

Kiyomi (asexual biromantic)

Source | Game

In Your Dreams

Lynde (demisexual)

Traumfänger (demisexual)

Source | Game

A Late Night Convo

Seo-jun (demisexual)

Source | Game

First Skate

Seo-jun (demisexual)

Source | Game

Nat(urally) Me

Helia (asexual)

Source | Game

Drink of Choice

Valeria (ace)

Source | Game

Duplicity

Griffin (demi pansexual)

Tris (demisexual)

Taipan (graysexual)

Melon (asexual)

Mags (asexual)

Sources: 1 | 2 | 3 | Game

[tinfoil-jones]

Gravity Falls: For Your Own Good, Ch. 4

Summary: A few years after moving to Gravity Falls and having his lab built, Stanford Pines happens upon his estranged twin brother, Stanley. He mentally prepared himself to be suffocated by his brothers neediness all over again - what he wasn't prepared for was Stanley walking right past him like he didn't even notice him.

Rating: M for language, violence, and adult implications

Preface: Dialogue only, but some actions will be annotated for clarity. Cross-Posted on AO3 Here

First - Prev - Next

CH.4

"If we’re going to get to the pit of this peach we gotta get some variables outta the way first. I need a scan of his brain and yours. While conscious.”

“Mine as well?”

“You said he’s your identical twin - he should be genetically the same as you. We can use a scan of your brain as a comparison to see if there’s physical damage on the organ itself, because brain damage is the most common cause of amnesia.”

“I do have the technology available for an in-depth scan, but… ”

 “But what?”

“It’s in the shape of a ray gun, but like a traditional MRI whoever is getting scanned has to stay completely still.”

“I don’t s’pose in the time it took me to go into town and get supplies, you managed to reconcile with him?”

“Reconcile? He’s still convinced I’m a mad scientist out to harvest his organs, 'or worse turn him over to the IRS'- don’t ask about that second part. If I point anything gun-shaped at him, he’ll freak out.”

“Can’t say I blame him…”

“Hush, Fiddleford. There’s an easy way we can get him to hold still.”

“Stanford- Stanford put the tranquilizing doohickey away. We both know that concoction of yours wasn’t formulated with humans in mind. Surely you have less caustic means of sedation.”

---

“Stanford, anyone can tell that bottle’s been tampered with.”

“I have a theory that this persona of his is so self-destructive he’ll still drink it.”

“Y’know, this bottled water tastes suspiciously like two crushed Ambien tablets.” 

*Stan keeps drinking it anyways*  

“I am impressed, but I also hate that your theory was correct.”

*Ford undeafens the cell*

“Stanley, if you think there’s zolpidem in that, why are you still drinking it?”

“You think two Ambien is enough to take me down? Guess again, I’ve used this stuff to cut coke. You’re gonna have to try harder than that, PhD.” 

“Hmm, so we should have used Coca-Cola instead of water…”

“That ain’t what he meant by- how did you survive by yourself out here?”

---

“Hello there …Stan?”

“Sup babe.”

“Don’t call me that. I was wondering - you’re so handsome already, but it’d surely tickle my fancy a bit more if you put on this here necktie.”

“Hell no.”

“Do you not know how to tie one? I’d be happy to-.”

“I know how to tie a tie, specs. But I’ll never wear a necktie ever again. Not after Colombia… I still can’t shave that part of my jaw without nightmares.”

“I beg your pardon?”

---

“I couldn’t convince him to put the mind control tie on.”

“Fiddleford, why are you staring a thousand yards away?”

“He was explaining to me his time in Colombian prison, then he went on a tangent about necklaces and now I don’t think I can change a tire without thinking about it ever again.”

“... Interesting. We’re not resorting to the tranq gun yet?”

“This is your own brother you’re talking about.” 

“There’s only one thing we can do. The only thing that will 99.99% work on my brother. I didn’t think it would have to come to this so soon. But it’s our only unharmful option left.”

---

“Stanley.”

“Doc.”

“I will give you twenty dollars if you stay still for thirty whole seconds.”

“On one hand this is a set up… On the other hand, I’ve done worse for twenty dollars.”

“You what ?”

“Ten bucks up front.”

To be continued...

[lafemmemacabre]

🥀🔮 G A B R I E L ⚰️🕯️

BACKUP ACCOUNT for @vampiricvenus

🦇 TME • they/them (ENG) & elle (ESP) • 32

🦇 Lesbian • femme4butch • monogamous • married 🥰 (April 12th, 2024)

🦇 Chilean • mixed non-Black Latine • ENG & ESP

🦇 Hellenic Polytheist 🏺🏛️ (Culturally Catholic)

Aphrodite & Ares devotee // Hera, Persephone, Dionysus, Hermes & Apollo worshipper.

🦇 Goth since '07 • HEAVY preference for 90s goth

🦇 Autistic • multiply chronically ill • ambulatory rollator user (aka I'd love to use it full time but right now it's impossible 🫠)

🦇 Communist • anti-psychiatry • feminist

DNI ~ Not that it stops the wrong people, but...

No lesbophobes, misogynists, biphobes, transmisogynists, transphobes or homophobes.

No transandrophobia bros.

No racists (including antiblack poc), antisemites or zionists. No US or otherwise imperial core chauvinists. Your lives aren't more worthy than those of the global south.

Very much uninterested on liberals interacting with me or my posts, for the love of God please leave me alone.

I'm very against the whole m-spec "lesbian" bullshit and no you will not convince me that it's #Valid. I'm not interested in the politics of the validity of identity labels, I'm only interested in labels in their capacity to describe our positionality within hierarchies of power and oppression. Lesbian identity describes specific gender relations within our established patriarchy, and part of those gender relations is as women or women-adjacent people who do not willingly form sexual or romantic relationships with men outside of sex work or other similar survival needs.

I'm similarly opposed to TME people claiming the transfem label. Fuck off.

If you're an able-bodied person who thinks physically disabled people have it somehow easier, are more believed, or are given more compassion/sympathy, and/or you co-opt our struggles, kindly kill yourself. <3

If you're someone who thinks misogyny is Oppression Lite™ also kindly kill yourself yes even if you're LGBT/disabled/etc. I don't care. Die. <3

I'd rather swifties stay the fuck away from me purely because you're all insufferable even if the mediocre white woman you all were worshiping wasn't a snake billionaire polluter bully.

[esf-art-and-design]

You wanna know something crazy?

I work for a LGBTQ+/Queer non-profit, I’ve had to sit in on training seminars on how to best support our community, how to create a space that is actually safe for everyone in the community, etc.

You wanna know the one thing that was emphasized by these professionals running these seminars (who are also a part of the community btw)

Telling queer people what their labels for their identity ought to be is extremely harmful.

Gatekeeping the community from other people who are figuring themselves out because of labels is harmful?! Shocker I know, but yes it is.

You know what this means right? It means that:

You don’t get to tell a guy experimenting with queer sex that he’s gay/bi/queer/etc if he ID’s as straight

You don’t get to tell a woman experimenting with queer sex that she’s lesbian/bi/queer/etc. if she ID’s as straight

You don’t get to tell aces who are hetero sexual/Romantic that they don’t belong in queer spaces

You don’t get to blame bi lesbians/m-spec women for creepy cishet men entering wlw spaces to hit on women (in an entitled way) (that’s called misogyny babes)

You don’t get to tell someone they are unlovable/not deserving of a relationship/etc. because of the label they use

You don’t get to tell people that actions invalidate their labels because “actions speak louder than words”

You don’t get to demand to know what labels someone uses because of their actions. (Or you don’t force someone to out themselves)

You don’t apply labels to someone from pure speculation (you could be outing someone and putting them in danger)

You don’t get to tell people their labels are “contradictory” or “don’t make sense” and demand they choose one label over the other

Other Labels cannot harm your own identity, and if you act like it can your wrong and harming the community

And ultimately, It means that according to actual professionals within the lgbtq non-profit space, the exclusionists in the community are wrong and are doing immeasurable harm.

Basically what I’m saying is that everyone is welcome here on my blog, policing identity is harmful, and yes, the exclusionists that told you that your identity is invalid or made fun of you for your identity we’re so fucking wrong.

Everyone who experiences sexual orientation, attraction, gender identity, and gender expression differently belongs within our community.

Gatekeeping only keeps people deserving of services away from the spaces where they can get those services. It keeps them away from peer support. And that’s not good, especially if you know the statistics for self harm and suicide within the community.

[dhddmods]

Non-binary is an umbrella term.

It feels like a lot of people forget that non-binary is an umbrella term for anyone that is not strictly a binary man or binary woman.

Yes, it can be used as a lone identity, and people don't have to call themselves non-binary if they'd rather use their more specific label under the non-binary umbrella, but it doesn't really make much sense to us when people say they are "not non-binary" while also having a non-binary gender. Its like saying you are omnisexual, but not m-spec.

It seems some people even in the queer community itself are under the impression that non-binary is synonymous with androgyne or neutrois, when thats really not the case.

Fenby, galby, lunarian, menby, enboy, solarian - its all non-binary.

Androgyne, neugender, neufem, neumasc, neuwoman, neuman, neuandrogyne, neuaporine, neuxenine, neutrois, agender, gendervoid, genderless, maverique, aporagender, stellarian, outherine - its all non-binary.

Xenogenders, aesthetigenders, noungenders - its all non-binary.

Multigenders, bigender, trigender, quadgender, quintgender, hexagender, septagender, octagender, enneagender, decagender, pangender, genderfluid, mutogender - its all non-binary.

Genderflux, girlflux, femflux, mascflux, boyflux, androgyneflux, neuflux, neutroisflux, agenderflux, maveriqueflux, aporaflux, outherineflux, xenoflux - its all non-binary.

Demigender, demigirl, demifem, duskian/demilunarian, demiboy, demimasc, dawnian/demisolarian, demiandrogyne, demineutral, demineutrois, demiagender, demimaverique, demiaporine, celestian/demistellarian, demioutherine, demix/demixenogender, demifluid, demiflux - its all non-binary.

A lot of people seem to separate these genders from the spectrum, and as a result, misinform people about what non-binary means, and water down its meaning until its hardly comprehensible. Its counterintuitive to turn a catch-all term into a singular conceptual gender. It is not a word for one singular type of gender.

[wickedapostate]

It earnestly is so meaningful to me that the companions are all pansexual and said as such. There is not a lot of specifically pan rep out there and even less of it is mainstream or with poc or older characters. There is also a lot of times where pansexual rep is erased for other m-spec identities or to call a character gay, which I understand we are all shorted for good representation, but I really hope that doesn't happen now

Either way, I'm just overjoyed about it 💙💛🩷

[oceancoins]

EVERIQUE (Updated Flag + Carrd)

Original Post Here [link] | Term Carrd Here [link]

NOTE: The Carrd site is not mobile friendly at this time. I plan on updating it soon to be more accessible for mobile platforms.

Everique is a term to describe when one views their entire identity as queer, and thus views all of their attractions as such. It can be used as a modifier alongside other labels or as a term on its own. There could be a multitude of explanations for this, some of which are (but are not limited to):

Being trans and having a complicated relationship/history with your sexuality because of that.

Being multigender and/or genderfluid and therefore experiencing queer attraction regardless of who you're attracted to.

Being non-binary and not fitting binary definitions of queer vs. not queer.

Being m-spec and feeling as though all of your attractions are queer because you are m-spec.

Being a system/collective where the line between individual identities is blurred.

Being angled a-spec and experiencing "straight" attraction through a queer lens due to being a-spec.

Simply being queer and resonating with the term's meaning.

Many, many more.

This term is meant to encompass everyone in the community. If you feel this applies to you, use it. There are no limits to this term. This term is inclusive of m-spec lesbians and gays, lesboys and turigirls, romeogirls/darcygirls and julietboys/bennetboys, multigender and genderfluid individuals, gaybians/velaurians, loveless individuals, non-traumagenic systems, etc.

The new flag is very reminiscent of the original, but with a few alterations and added meaning to the design.

The descending rainbow for each of the bigger stripes are supposed to resemble the whole of the queer community and how everyone is included under the label Everique.

The white is supposed to resemble the 'everyone inbetween'. The identities that are often left out of discussions and pride, the identities that are often forgotten, dismissed or attacked even by members of their own community.

The purple in the middle is to resemble unity and togetherness for all queer people, meant to be a nod to the chevron queer flag.

Everique has a new symbol, that being a rose. It symbolizes love, happiness, positivity and (again) unity. Each petal of a rose is still connected to the same bud of the flower, much like how all queer identities are still connected under the shared experience of being queer, regardless of their differences from each other.

Here are some transparent images of the term's symbol, but any rose can be used to symbolize Everique.

The love this term has gotten has meant the world to us, but it was our first term ever. The original flag, while cute and charming, was made with very little flag-making knowledge. None of the colors held significant meaning.

You are still more than welcome to use the original flag if you feel it fits you best, but this is the one that has resonated with us the most and we feel encompasses what Everique is.

[lostryu]

I do not think that people understand the genuine problem that has started to crop up in the lgbt+ community when it comes to lesbians. Even in a space that is supposed to be safe and exclusive FOR A REASON, we cannot escape men in any capacity due to the unchecked lesbophobia.

Like, if someone makes a post about any wlw/nblw experience it is constantly derailed in favor of including men and man aligned identities. If we try to take joy in our attraction and how it excludes men, someone will always butt in and try to include men in some way.

No matter what we always have to reassert that no this isn’t inclusive of men, no lesbians are not attracted to men, no lesbians cannot be men, and it is genuinely exhausting. It's so fucked up that in cementing what lesbianism truly is, we have to constantly mention men and our lack of attraction to them!!

Sorry, not sorry, but if you think that m-spec lesbians or bi lesbians are not lesbophobic, you are wrong and you are complicit in infringing on lesbian spaces. You are responsible for the alienation of lesbians from the community.