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ofpolitics Ā· 11 months ago
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me realizing i need to redo my carrd and pretty much all my dash graphics here:
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justaz Ā· 6 months ago
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thinking about arthur who has crazy quick reflexes and is a relatively light sleeper who woke up to the sound of someone in his room and saw merlin crouched down messing with his keys before softly asking ā€œwhatre you doing?ā€¦before breakfast?ā€
#like in that scene in s2 when merlin was calling out arthurs name from under his bed#and he jumped up (thinking merlin was long gone) grabbed his sword and postured for a fight#or that one in idk which season when merlin was sneaking in his room and he woke up and grabbed his sword when merlin bumped a chair#and then merlin brought the canopy/curtains around his bed down on him#vs waking up to see melin splayed over him and staring for a beat#before flinching back#(he was definitely having some thoughts and/or dreams but thats neither here nor there)#idk thinking about arthur who trusts merlin implicitly and allows himself to lower his guard around him#his guard which he keeps up even in his sleep#GOD imagining them in an established relationship and merlin for once has /so/ much trouble waking arthur up#like before it was sorta bad but arthur was always in that half awake state#but now that theyre togetherā€¦.arthur wont even groan when merlin starts poking his ribs#arthur finally feeling so safe and protected that he allows his guard to drop in his sleep#and its the first time hes ever felt truly refreshed in the morning#so now merlin has infinitely more trouble waking him up but when hes up hes UP and ready to go#bbc merlin#merlin emrys#arthur pendragon#merthur#arthur bby they could never make me hate you#hes just a girl desperately craving love and protection#merlin isnt even offering it#hes shoving it into arthurs arms with insults flying off the tongue#theyre so disgusting#(affectionate)#<3#headcanon#head canon#hc
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mysterycitrus Ā· 4 months ago
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gosh writing this fic makes me love dick grayson and roy harpers relationship sm!! ach mon
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thepersonperson Ā· 5 months ago
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Sukunaā€™s Loneliness Part 4 (Sukunaā€™s Negative Rizz)
Part 1 Part 2 Part 3
Some warnings before we start.
1) This analysis deals with sexual topics.
2) I will be mainly using the TCB scans because of their accessibility.Ā Raws are from mangareader(.)to.
3) This was written as of JJK 262 266. (I'm just going to keep updating this until I stop finding things I should've noticed earlier.)
4) The raws broke me in ways you cannot possibly imagine.
(Click images for captions/citations.)
Fighting as Communication
Baki the Grappler. This is a manga where men destroy each otherā€™s bodies as a test of strength. Itā€™s poorly written but the art is terrifying and I love it so dearly. Between fights of extreme violence and body horror the characters eat. And thatā€™s it. Thatā€™s the manga.
I bring Baki up because Gege is a huge fan of Fujimoto Tatsuki, the creator of Chainsawman. Fujimoto is a fan of Gege too, but more importantly, he is a huge fan of Itagaki Keisuke, the creator of Baki. (His daughter made Beastars btw.) In a way, this means Jujutsu Kaisen has been influenced by Baki. But thatā€™s not a surprise, a lot of manga is.
Itagakiā€™s work is so massively influetial on Japanese media that itā€™s kind of hard to grasp since itā€™s not as popular overseas. When listening to interviews from various Japanese creators, Baki will often be cited as a major influence. And the thing is, you can tell when a creative has read Baki. Thereā€™s nothing quite like it. If youā€™ve read Baki and consume Chainsawman, you will see its bones everywhere. I feel the same about Jujutsu Kaisen.
The main antagonist in Baki is Yujiro Hanma. He is the strongest creature alive. So much so that he has no one to call a rival. Heā€™s bored. He causes trouble. He kills his wife to motivate his son, Baki into becoming stronger. His son, Baki, who he grooms into becoming a fighter that might beat him in combat one day. Kind of sounds like Sukuna, right?
But thatā€™s not my point here. My focus is how Baki doubles as a discussion about strength and manhood. Itā€™s aggressively bisexual. Men love each other with their fists. Straight up the main character says having sex with women is the same thing as fighting men.
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And it just doesnā€™t stop there. The homoerotic nature of the fights is never shyed away from. Hereā€™s an example of my favorite.
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He grabs his balls and compliments their size. Thatā€™s pretty gay, right? Well thereā€™s this reanimated prehistoric caveman called Pickle that fights Bakiā€™s brother Jack. And how do they fight? They kiss.
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I didnā€™t call it a kiss. Itagaki did. I didnā€™t say they melded together. Itagaki did. This mangaka overtly calls attention to the homoerotic nature of men fighting men, and how men communicate their love for each other through violence. And yes, itā€™s sexual. Itagaki wants you to read it that way.
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But sometimes he doesnā€™t want you to read it that way. Sometimes the fights are a dialogue, an emotional conversation. Like one between father and son.
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Itagaki is a master of narrative framing. When he wants you to feel a certain way, you will feel it. He also tells his readers that thereā€™s more to the fights than just fighting.
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Those are the ideas that help me see the bones of Baki in other works. Men loving men with violence. Men communicating with men through violence. I see these ideas in Jujutsu Kaisen too.
Jujutsu Communication
Iā€™ve gone over how Yuji commucates with other people on their own terms. And a lot of it is through fighting. A conversation without words, learning how someone works. Yuji is good at using fights as tool of communication.
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But heā€™s not the one who tells you that thereā€™s more to the fights than just fighting. Maki does in her spar with the sumo guy.
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Just like Baki. Fighting is a means of communication. Gege has told you that there can be more to the fights than fighting. It's a tool used to understand the self and others.
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With that in mind, I want to reexamine a particular fight under the lens of Baki rather than Umineko.
Sukuna vs Gojo
Baki tells you that homoerotic readings of its fights are intentional. If you ask me, this probably stems from historical stances on masculinity and homosexuality in ancient Japan. Men loved men and women differently, but both were ok. Thatā€™s how Baki can have a girlfriend and his gay fights. Peak bisexual optimization.
What does Jujutsu Kaisen have to do with this? Well it has been extremely queer friendly. We have a multidue of canonical trans characters, non-binary characters, and other flavors of queer characters not disparaged for their identities, Gojo Satoru included. It may not be stated outright, but Gojo and Geto do love each other in a gay way. The subtext is so persisent itā€™s basically text.
In other words, Gege has already told us, yes please have queer readings of this text. Itā€™s the same way Baki tells you, yes this is straight up convoluded gay sex. So thatā€™s what Iā€™m going to do. Iā€™m going to reread the Sukuna and Gojo fight as some ridiculous mating display between two men who are fighting over can miscommunicate their intent the hardest.
Framed as Courtship
Letā€™s start with the framing. The pre-fight set up. How does text tell you queer readings are allowed?
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Kenjaku does. Itā€™s romantic. Itā€™s a date. This reading has been made valid explicitly. And if thereā€™s room for doubt because of the sarcasm? Thereā€™s still additional support for it.
We already know how badly in love Gojo is with Geto. The fight is on the 24th of December, the most romantic day in Japan. And in a fun little Geto parallel, who declared the start of war on this day, violence underlines this new romantic venture.
That doesnā€™t include Sukuna who recalls Yorozuā€™s words about teaching love in the context of marriage.
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Gojo never heard that conversation which is why the next point is absolutely insane.
The outfit Gojo initially is in resembles that of a groom at a Shinto wedding.
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Shinto weddings were implemented after the Heian era. Part of the ceremony includes a priest and a shrine maiden who respectively stand to the right and left of the altar. A purification ritual will occur, lead by the priest, to cleanse the shrine before vows are exchanged. Gakuganji is the priest and Utahime is the shrine maiden. To the right and left of Gojo respectively.
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The bride at a Shinto wedding wears mainly white. After the 200% Hollow Purple cleanses the area, the dark shawl is removed and Sukuna remains in mostly white.
How interesting that this battle has been framed as one between groom and bride.
The thing is, marriage in the Heian era was far more lax. There were no major ceremonies. If a man was interested in marrying a woman, he would visit her for 3 nights after receiving approval from her father. Upon the passing of their 3rd night together, the family would have an informal celebration of their union in private. Even after marriage, multiple partners were allowed and sometimes encouraged.
Yorozuā€™s big celebration proposal to Sukuna and banning of concubines was quite improper by Heian standards. Though it is in line with modern marriages. If Sukuna did not consume any Shinto wedding literature, he probably didnā€™t recognize that Gojo was dressed as a groom.
But did Gojo dress this way for Sukuna intentionally? The Toji fit served an entirely different purpose. Itā€™s the robes and pre-fight ceremony that catch my attention. So I propose the following:
1) Gojo dressed up as a groom to die and be wed with his one and only Geto in death.
2) Gojo dressed up as a groom in part as an offering to Sukuna. And because Sukuna is from the Heian era it went over his head entirely.
3) Gojo intended for both of these things at the same time and left who he would end up with to fate.
Regardless of what Gojo was going for here, itā€™s a visual cue combined with the knowledge of it being Dec 24th that encourages the reader to perhaps consider the fight as something other than just a fight. A date perhaps? Kenjaku made the connection and neither Gojo or Sukuna really denied it. Gojo gave the weak excuse of a death anniversary confusion. But much weirder, given how hostile he was to Yorozu, Sukuna did not object to the romantic framing in any capacity.
Am I reaching? Is this reading intentional?
When I start getting this confused by how a translated work wants me to read it, I try to refer to the original language text and anyone who knows it for missing context. Sometimes localizations add things that werenā€™t there or push readers towards one interpretation. So for the rest of this analysis, Iā€™m going to be focusing on the raws.
Iā€™m going to be honest. My Japanese fudging sucks. I can barely read kanji and canā€™t reliably translate anything. Feel free to correct me if I got something wrong. That being said, with what little I do know, I have discovered something interesting.
In this post I talked about how weird Sukunaā€™s manner of speech is. I focused on his you pronoun usage of ćŠå‰ (Omae) for everyone else and č²“ę§˜ (Kisama) for Gojo since this is a strong indicator of how a character views their relationship to someone.
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Here's a summary of the two points I made in that post:
1) Omae is informal and either a casual thing amongst peers or indicates the speaker's higher status. Since Sukuna is arrogant, we can reasonably assume he's talking down to people.
2) Kisama historically was a formal show of respect, but in modern times it is a hostile insult, much more rude than Omae. Since Sukuna is 1,000 years old and hates Yuji (who he uses Omae with), we can reasonably assume Sukuna was being friendly to Gojo when he used Kisama.
With that pronoun usage in mind, while examining the raws for the infamous ā€œYou Cleared My Skiesā€ speech I found this:
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Kisama. Sukuna is very happy and lavishing Gojo with praise. The assumption it was formal from the start seems to be correct. It's hard to read this any other way.
Though Japanese can easily be dubious in its interpretation, there are instances where context can cut off all other readings. I truly believe this one of those cases.
Now, to confirm Sukuna is still only treating Gojo this way I started looking at his you pronouns as he got excited post-Gojo death. Maki is the person he seems to admire the most.
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Heā€™s still just using Omae. What does that mean? Gojo is in his own fudging category for Sukuna and he has been there since the start of the manga. (For more on why this is significant, refer to this post.)
Wow ok. Thatā€™s pretty intense! Weā€™ve got Gojo dressed up as a groom on December 24th and Sukuna treating Gojo different from anyone else. I read their fight again under the lens of explicit courtship and focused in on these specific panels.
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Satisfaction. Now thatā€™s a word that can easily carry a sexual connotation. Love as well. The parallel syntax fascinated me in English. So I decided to look at the raws and see how close they are.
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Pretty much the same except for "the one who will teach you love" and "the one satisfying him now". Since the one being satisfied is Gojo by Sukuna, it really seems we can assume the one being taught love is Gojo by Sukuna.
Time to learn some Japanese again!
Kanji has multiple readings. Most have at least two. The Onyomi (Chinese) reading typically used for nouns and the Kunyomi (Japanese) reading typically used for verbs. (This is not always the case but itā€™s the basics.)
Thatā€™s probably why ęŗ€ is read as ć¾ć‚“ (man) when Gojo and Geto are talking about ā€œsatisfactionā€ using the On version and ćæ (mi), the Kun version, when the narrator is talking about who ā€œsatisfiesā€ who.
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However ęŗ€ on its own does not mean satisfaction. It means full. To be filled. Or fullness. č¶³ (zoku) is added as a modifier after ęŗ€ to be read as satisfaction ęŗ€č¶³ (manzoku). č¶³ usually means feet, but it can also mean to be sufficient. Manzoku therefore has a direct translation of being sufficiently full. Itā€™s not a surprise a lot of food places in Japan use Manzoku in their names or advertising.
But whatā€™s this? Why is this sentence written as ęŗ€ćŸć—恦 or Mi(tashite) instead of ęŗ€č¶³ć—恦 or Manzoku(shite)? The addition of Zoku is what transforms Man into "satisfying". Without the Zoku, itā€™s just "fill". The means this sentence can be read as ā€œThe one filling him up now isā€”ā€
Weā€™ve already established that the blank is Sukuna. The new problem is that heā€™s filling Gojo up. And boy, does that sound homoerotic to put it lightly. But perhaps I am reaching.
So I did what any sane person would do in this situation. I read hentai.
Surely if the phrase ęŗ€ćŸć—恦 (mitashite) can carry a sexual connotation I will find it in hentai.
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I immediately found a yaoi doujin called Fill me with your Big Love aka ćŠć£ććŖꄛ恧ęŗ€ćŸć—恦 (Okkina Ai de Mitashite). Honestly, I found too many doujins about creampies specifically. (You have internet access verify this yourself.) When you search Manzokushite the results are much more in line with life satisfaction than sexual satisfaction. ...So Gege decided to use the more frisky phrasing.
Manzoku is also the name of an active sex toy manufacturer (Iā€™m not linking them use a search engine.) and a discontinued adult entertainment news company. So the satisfaction Gojo and Geto talk about, along with Geto using 妬 (ya), the jealous kanji often used between lovers, is definitely probably carrying a sexual connotation too.
So, Iā€™m not reaching. What the fudge did Gege mean by this?
Now that we've established that I am NOT reaching. What do we do with this information?
Well, we ruminate on the fight with the knowledge that Sukuna, of his own volition, decided to get Gojo off, probably.
I have forgiven Nanami for calling Gojo a pervert. If I watched someone bust a nut after being cut in half by his sworn enemy instead of saving the country, I too would be like what the fudge.
Anyways, the typical phrase used for an orgasm in Japanese is č”Œć(iku). It translates as to go. And yes it can mean to die, as in going to the other side. To die and go to heaven if you will. Which is what Gojo did with a big old smile on his face.
Thereā€™s also the term åæƒå¤© (tokoroten). It refers to a dish were a semi-opaque white substance is pushed through holes to create noodles. Literal translation using the kanji for heart åæƒ (kokoro) and the kanji for heaven 天 (ten). (Donā€™t ask me why them being smack together turns the Koroko into Tokoro. I donā€™t know.) Which in slang refers to prostate orgasms. This has nothing to do with this analysis I wanted to drop this fun fact in here. ā€¦And this image of Sukuna clutching his heart while looking at someone he sent to heaven.
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(This is a reach but the idea of this being an elaborate gay pun amuses me greatly.)
I have another fun slang term: č³¢č€…ć‚æ悤惠 (kenjataimu) which directly translates to sage č³¢č€… (kenja) time ć‚æ悤惠 (taimu). This refers to post-nut clarity sending someone into a meditative-like state.
Oh thatā€™s a bit familiar. Sukuna was giving sagely advice to Kashimo and reflecting on satisfaction and love.
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And whatā€™s this? Mitashite has made a reappearance! Sukuna is saying ā€œIā€™ve never thought about needing another person to fill me up.ā€ Which 1. further supports the 'The one satisfying/filling him (Gojo) now isā€”Sukuna.' reading and 2. suggests Sukuna is a top suggests Sukuna really doesnā€™t have sexual interest in people. (Since the context of this convo is relationships and love.)
By the way. Acts of eating in Japanese can be modified to carry sexual meanings. Itā€™s a bit more suggestive than English, but it carries over pretty well I think? č‚‰é£Ÿē³» (nikusokukei) refers to someone who aggresively pursues romantic or sexual relationships. Composed of the kanji 肉 (niku) for meat, 食 (ta) for eating, and ē³» (kei) class. If you noticed, 食 isnā€™t usually read as Soku. It becomes Soku when paired with Niku for some reason. (I donā€™t know why someone please help me.) Side by side the kanji č‚‰é£Ÿ (nikusoku) means meat-eater.
食 is still interesting on itā€™s own. The é£Ÿć¹ć‚‹ (taberu) reading is normal eating. The é£Ÿć†(kuu) reading is an innuendo. It can mean to devour someone, like a cannibal, or devour someone sexually.
Sukuna has made it very clear that his eating of people is literal. Thereā€™s no innuendo. In fact, if you read into it, heā€™ll kill you (rip Yorozu and Kashimo).
Gojo, however, appears to be his sole exception to this rule. When Sukuna tells Kashimo not to spoil his pleasure he uses the kanji 興 (kyou). This of course can be directly translated as pleasure, but the Chinese reading of it can also indicate intense excitement or sexual arousal.
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Sukuna is pretty good at double-entendre wordplay if his earlier stunts with the kanji for Enchain doubling as Megumi Activities if read a different way is anything to go by. He's a fan of Chinese literature. It's not a stretch to assume there's more going on here.
And if notoriously homophobic Reddit dudebros are posting things like this. Maybe there's a lot more merit to this reading than I can currently grasp.
Iā€™m still pretty convinced Sukuna is aroace. That of course doesnā€™t bar him from pursuing romantic or sexual relationships. Sometimes thereā€™s the one exception. Sometimes the desire to be with and please an allo partner allows for engagement of activities they arenā€™t into. Sometimes the actions are pursued without the emotional attachment because they physically feel good. Thereā€™s also the gray-scale and demi labels to consider.
With that in mind, I want to emphasize this all points to how important Gojo is to Sukuna regardless of sexuality. He tried to engage with and understand Gojo on terms he wonā€™t for anyone else. And heā€™s been pursuing this connection relentlessly since the start of manga.
Sukunaā€™s Negative Rizz
Ok I established that reading the Sukuna vs Gojo fight as unhinged courtship is supported by the text. That doesnā€™t really say anything about Sukuna sucking at it.
But, my dear reader, that in of itself is proof of his negative rizz. I had to sit down. Learn about Heian era and Shinto wedding rituals, learn more Japanese, splice seemingly unrelated manga panels together, read hentai, and know that Gege is into yaoi to come to this conclusion. I had to rip every little shred of characterization and context apart and rearrange it into something comprehensible.
You know who canā€™t do that? Gojo.
As far as Gojo is concerned, Sukuna hates him. Kisama is an extremely hostile you pronoun in modern times. And if Gojo canā€™t tell Shoko (his closest friend after Geto) is stressed over him being used like a meat puppet by her visibly falling back on her addiction, heā€™s going to default to the assumption Sukuna hates him just as much as everyone else.
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And Gojo does just that. He assumes he failed to reach Sukuna. Despite how often they did hand to hand combat and weaponized their knowledge of each other, Gojo believes they never had proper conversation through fighting. He dies not understanding Sukuna, convinced the other was not trying to communicate with him at all.
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And if you recall, all of this fight occurred while Sukuna was wearing Megumiā€™s face. That boy is pretty much Gojoā€™s adopted child. From my experience, most single parents do not go looking for clones of their kids as partners.
If someone wore the skin of my family member I would assume they were trying to torment me. And torment Gojo Sukuna does. He draws attention to Megumiā€™s soul being used as collateral and attacks him with the 10 Shadows. We as the audience know this is all for the sake of getting past Infinity using his Shrine. Gojo doesnā€™t know that. Heā€™s fighting an evil dude who is puppeting the body of his son for god knows what reason.
Seriously, Sukuna sucks at communicating intent.
In Part 3 of my examination of Sukunaā€™s loneliness, I said Dismantle is a tool Sukuna uses to understand. And that him upgrading it by making Gojo the center of his world was indicative of his desire to reach him. I also said his refusal to use it on Yorozu was him expressing how little interest he had in her.
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Yorozu is pissed by this. She sees it as Sukuna rejecting her and I donā€™t think sheā€™s wrong. Sukuna saved his special Cursed Technique (CT) for Gojo while turning Yorozu down. If weā€™re considering all the wedding imagery and references that started with Yorozu, Iā€™m certainly allowed to read that as him saving himself for Gojo. (Think of how he lied to Gojo about being the first one he killed.)
Thereā€™s also the fact that Yorozu saw their battle as an expression love and lustā€”that the usage of CT is a type of foreplay under certain circumstances since it is an extension of the self. Combine that with the established premise that fighting is a type of a communication thanks to Maki vs Sumo Guy and you can start to see the courtship logic behind Sukunaā€™s treatment of Gojo.
If we are to read ā€œThe one who will teach you love isā€¦Sukunaā€ thereā€™s another adorable caveat. Yorozu uses the you pronoun 恂ćŖ恟 (Anata) for Sukuna.
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Itā€™s an informal you pronoun used by people learning Japanese. Native speakers try to avoid using it as it can come across as rude. But in the context of love? This is colloquially called the wife pronoun as its often used by a wife to her husband.
If you wanted to localize its usage in the way Yorozu means it, Anata might become ā€œyou, dearā€. So here we have Sukuna dressed in white, like a bride to Gojoā€™s groom, thinking of him as Anata.
The problem is, Gojo doesnā€™t know that. Sukuna never bothered to open his mouth and say this was an act of love. Sure he told Kashimo in the most roundabout way possible, but Gojo was the one who needed to hear that. If a courtship is going to be this diabolically complicated, there has to be clear hints for the other party. JJK is not Umineko where thereā€™s a witch that can revive the dead over and over until the idiot finally understands this was all for them.
Gojo also doesnā€™t have access to the kanji Sukuna uses to describe certain techinques or words. He hears the phonetics and runs with whatever best fits the context. This means thereā€™s no way for him to catch the double-meaning unless heā€™s a certain type of lingust, which he is not. His manner of speech and personal interests donā€™t line up with the flowery language of the Heian Era. The types of written works Gojo is into are historical war politics from the Sengoku period (known for violence more than the fine arts), Shonen manga, and physics/math.
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And what's this? According to CFYOW (the canon light novels): JJK Thorny Road at Dawn, Chapter 3 Asakusabashi Elegy, Gojo doesn't even like ancient poetry. You know, the thing Sukuna enjoys and tries to communicate with.
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The Kokin Wakashu Gojo off-handedly disparages is a compilation of Hiean Era poetry known as Waka. This was the primary means of communication amongst the noble class and spiritual leaders at the time. And the thing is, this poetry is supposed to be read into. Down to the quality of stroke and paper, not just the kanji written. Especially for courtship.
Itā€™s not that Gojo is stupid. He just doesnā€™t specialize in the studies that would give him a more critical ear to Sukuna's words. And Sukuna doesnā€™t seem to understand that no one in the modern era communicates like this anymore.
If you didnā€™t know, this is why Japanese characters introduce themselves they often describe what kanji their name is spelled with. Take for example: Satoru. He uses the kanji ꂟ meaning enlightenment. This kanji can be read as Go instead of Satoru. Additionally, the name Satoru can be written in kanji as 联 for smart, ę™ŗ for wisdom, ēŸ„ for knowledge, äŗ† for understanding, 哲 for philosophy, 聖 for virtuous, or ꚁ for daybreak. Thatā€™s 8 different kanji possible if you hear the name Satoru.
This is why Sukunaā€™s wordplay for everything else can be easily missed by other characters. They hear the words and cannot read the kanji like us. Context decides what Sukuna means for them. And since Sukunaā€™s context for most is violence and insults, itā€™s very hard for them to think about his words in any other way.
And boy howdy does Gojo miss it. Sukuna straight up calls him his husband and it took me several rereads to catch it. While mocking Gojo for being unable to open his domain, Sukuna calls him "painfully ordinary". This is localized from the word 凔夫 (bonpu) which can also be translated as unenlightened. (A layered insult! Sukuna is pretty much saying Gojo's sorcery is so boring he shouldn't even call himself the Honored One.)
The thing is...Bonpu is comprised of the 2 kanji 凔 for mediocre, and 夫 for husband. (Please note that there are many other ways to call Gojo a ditz without using the kanji for husband.) And an update from the Replies: Turns out there's layers to the gayness too.
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It's come full fudging circle. Gojo came dressed as a groom for a wedding and Sukuna thinks they're already married. The miscommunication is off the rails.
But wait! There's more...
Earlier I mentioned that the kanji for Enchain doubles as Megumi Activities. Let's break that down more. (Unfortunately the Twitter account of the person I referenced may or may not be nuked so here's this screenshot I've doctored.)
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So we have the translation of Enchain from å„‘é—Š (Keikatsu), which might be better localized as Separation.
This term comes from a Chinese poem about lovers who are husband and wife in The Book of Odes, Section I (Lessons from the States), Chapter 3 (The Odes of Bei), Poem 31 (Banging the Drum). (Here's a link to the full poem and context of it.)
In summary, itā€™s about a soldier who is on the brink of death, having lost nearly everything after being abandoned by those in power, lamenting the happiest days of his life with his love are ones he can never get back. (Hey that sounds just like what Sukuna did to Yuji!)
Keikatsu specifically comes from this passage:
ā€œOur vow is beyond death and lifeā€, I and you are together I always remembered. I will hold your hand, And together we grow old.
Too pitiful we are faraway apart, The distance separates us to meet again! Too miserable this takes forever, And it does not let us fulfill our vow!
Keikatsu is used to exemplify how the physical distance between the husband and wife prevents them from fulfilling their wedding vows. And that's just what Keikatsu/Enchain does to Yuji and Megumi, it causes painful separation neither of them wanted.
Keikatsu also tells Yuji exactly how Sukuna plans to do it. å„‘(kei)闊(katsu) can be written as ꁵ(kei)ę“»(katsu). The kanji ꁵ can be read as Kei or...Megumi. (It's the literal kanji used for his name.) The kanji ę“» (katsu) can mean "activities", which is how we get Enchain=Megumi Activities.
A two for one special! Sukuna mocks Yuji for being so close with Megumi while telling him exactly how he's going to destroy their relationship.
It seems this has nothing to do with Gojo until you consider the 3rd possible reading from wordplay with å„‘é—Š (Keikatsu). The kanji å„‘ when read as Kei refers to a promise, pledge or vow. When å„‘ read as Chigi? It can refer to sexual intercourse, especially between husband and wife.
So we have å„‘é—Š(keikatsu, separation), ꁵ(kei Megumi)ę“»(katsu, activities), and å„‘(kei chigi, spousal sex)ę“»(katsu, activities). It's no wonder he erased Yuji's memory of it.
Keep in mind, that when Sukuna uses Keikatsu, the only vow that he has made at this point is his promise to kill Gojo. He eventually does that using Megumi's body during a fight framed between groom and bride. And for reasons beyond their control, Sukuna and Gojo have been unable to fulfill that vow through lengthy separation.
Notes from poem "Banging the Drum" Sukuna references include the following:
"And during the operation, he lost his horse, which was a desperate situation (horses in ancient time carried soldier supply and weapons, are life companion for soldiers in advance or retreat), he lost his horse, his supply, maybe his armor and weapons, and the road he was facing that we may lose his life so he may never go back. In all these mess, he started searching, and somehow at this hopeless moment he started to revisit his happiest moment, when he together vowed in marriage ceremony with his wife, and he was even afraid that he might never see his love again."
"And His last statement for his true value is his home, his love, his fulfillment of his vow is his true duty. Hero's duty is to pursue love."
In Buddhism, which JJK is heavily influenced by, horses are a pretty big deal. Horses can represent the path to enlightenment, especially since The Buddha's horse is what takes him on this journey away from his wife and children. They separate in the end though, the horse dying of a broken heart.
Remember how Sukuna called Gojo unenlightened? He sort of guided Gojo to enlightenment using Mahoraga, whose Eight-Handed title is a reference to the Eightfold Path to be followed for enlightenment. Buddhist enlightenment is centered around liberation from suffering. (Just check the wiki entry to verify this.) Infinity was the source of Gojo's suffering and Sukuna cut right through it.
Sukuna has been running around with a broken heart for a good chunk of the post-Gojo fight. And if you take that into consideration with this poem and all the other symbolism, he's somehow a Buddha, a Bodhisattva, the dying husband, the widowed wife, and the heartbroken horse all at the same time. Not unlike his wordplay taking on every possible meaning at once.
But my point here is that Sukuna mightā€™ve seen his fight with Gojo as consummation of their marriage. (There's probably a joke in here about the husband reaching climax while leaving his wife unsatisfied.) Remember in the wise words of Itagaki Keisuke, "Fighting and sex are exactly the same!"
In Conclusion?
This is possibly one of the most bizarre and elaborate expressions of love I have lost my mind over. Sukuna gave everything Gojo ever wanted from Jujutsu violently. He did it in such an unpleasant and cruel way that the target of his affection thought there was nothing between them. Sukuna also hid his intent under social norms that no longer exist. Unless Gojo happened to be into ancient literature, there was never a scenario where he would catch onto this. Sukuna's failure is critical on multiple levels.
Itā€™s impressive. It really is. No one knows how Sukunaā€™s strange little brain works so heā€™s stuck being loner without anyone that fully understands him. (Iā€™m still thinking about how Uraume didnā€™t know Sukuna was a twin for over 1,000 years.) Heā€™d have to let people in and tell him outright, but heā€™s just like Gojo so I guess thatā€™s never happening.
#cactus yaps#I need to have my weeaboo license revoked.#How on earth did I miss this?#GEGE WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY THIS.#Hi yes I will dress as a traditional groom on Dec 24th the most romantic day in Japan after someone else called the arrangement a date.#Is this even subtext at this point?#Why canā€™t these men use their got danged words instead of Umineko levels of psychological warfare.#Sukuna: ''Gojo is clearly driven by lust. How do I have s*x with him without actually having s*x?#Fighting and death are basically the same thing as s*x so Iā€™ll do that and hopefully he sees that I love him.''#Gojo to Geto: ''Sukuna gave me the best *rgasm I've had in years. I think he hates me.''#Geto: ''Huh.''#Absolutely fascinated by girlfailures Sukuna and Geto horribly fumbling Gojo in completely different ways.#I want them to fight over him in the most passive aggressive way possible.#Gojo was meant to be a romcom harem protagonist.#Though Sukuna should be way more ok with poly given Heian rules on relationships.#But you know Geto was also ok that someone else was able to make Gojo feel good.#I like that prioritization of his pleasure. Even if it came a little too late.#Much to think about.#Consider this my Sukugo manifesto part 2.#Update 8/14/24: One of these days I'm just going to have to make a new post.#Update Cont: Sukuna calling Gojo his mid unenlightened husband wife spouse all at once using two kanji is truly insane.#Update 8/19/2024: All according to Keikatsu.#sukugo#ryomen sukuna#gojo satoru#jjk spoilers#jujutsu kaisen#lemons
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SAID HE LIKES CRAZY GIRLS,
BUT HE HATES WHEN I ACT CRAZY,
IT TAKES TWO TO TOXIC!
FINALLY!!! Finished these pics of jinx Iā€™ve been working on!!!!! HOLY SHIT, these took so longā€¦. But finallyā€¦ theyā€™re doneā€¦ pls enjoy this art of my beautiful princess w a disorder. Featuring alternate colors for the big pic and also a closeup! Cuz I rlly like how both the lines and coloring on her face turned outā€¦ like the pink gradients w her eyeā€¦ her deer in headlights expression,, like uve just startled a raccoon digging thru ur trashcan and r two seconds away from getting mauled.. m proud of it!
#arcane#league of legends#jinx#jinx arcane#arcane jinx#doodles#hate and love how hardcore I relate to jinxā€¦#little sisters w dependency issues.. + a whole lot of other issues#anyway the ā€˜heā€™ in the ā€˜crazy girlā€™ lyrics is in my mind referring to both vi and silco lol#Iā€™m sORRY! I keep seeing ppl hardcore pitting these 2 bad bitches against each other#and itā€™s likeā€¦ silco is objectively. morally worse than vi.. vi is not like. a ruthless crime lord#vi IS 100% trying her best and loves her sister. but she still screwed up w jinx#and silco ALSO truly loves jinx. but also screwed up by fucking. trauma bonding w her ghgh-#like.. silco is too close. heā€™s like. yes go apeshit jinx I support and love you and understand u no matter what fucked up shit u do.#were the same. and thatā€™s beautiful!!! I love how supportive he isā€¦#but its like.. silcos too close. he just became a new person for jinx to glomp onto and base her self esteem around after vi left#and he doesnā€™t manipulate that on purpose but. he DOES effect that girls mental state. cuz he needs her too#meanwhile vi is too far awayā€¦ she thinks she knows who jinx is. but jinx has changedā€¦ time marches forward. sheā€™s not that little girl#anymore#and nOW! after the finale jinx has NOBODY TO BE CODEPENDENT W..#her mental state has always been so tied up in how the ppl she puts on pedestals view her#and now thereā€™s no pedestal anymore. she knocked down the statues. sheā€™s aloneā€¦#itā€™s interestingā€¦.#anyway Iā€™m not trying to say vi is as bad as silco at ALL. just that sheā€™s an equally important building block in jinxā€™s mind#that has made her into the fucked up lil person she is today. and I think thatā€™s neat.#lol anyway! Iā€™m hyped for season 2ā€¦.#aLSO GOD DAMN THIS GIRLS OUTFIT IS COMPLICATED. WHY DO U GOT SO MANY BITS N BOBS JINX??? I mean I get it accessories rock.#but u take so much time to draw ghfhg- require so much brainpower#aLSO ADDENDUM. while silco is objectively morally worse than vi his relationship w jinx is genuinely. like. makes me emotional ghgh-#its not perfect. or healthy. butā€¦ itā€™s. the both of them. being seen. and accepted. and loved and understood.. and I love that shit.
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Did Brambleclaw actually disown the Three when the secret is revealed? I don't remember this happening (then again, it's been a while) but it does bug me how all three go "Poor brambleclaw :(( He was such a good dad to us and he has to learn we're not even his biokits :(((( poor guy" while simultaneously shitting on Leafpool and Squirrelflight despite them showing them more care and affection before AND after the reveal. If he does disown them, then.... WOW is the double standard real here.
In-canon? It's something you have to approximate. They don't seem to have a concept of ""disowning"" because blood relation is taken as such an insurmountable, FUNDAMENTAL fact of life. He doesn't write them out of his little kitty will and testament, but his actions ARE disowning.
It's as if the fact he is not their biological father is an automatic disowning. From the reveal onwards, he is immediately cold, distant, and the "betrayal" is mentioned often. The Three also explicitly don't blame him for his behavior, like it's just to be expected that he's Not Their Dad anymore.
Lionblaze in particular stares longingly at him several times, really missing him. And like... that's kinda what gets my goat so much
I do believe Brambleclaw is entitled to his feelings of betrayal. I believe Squilf was ultimately in the right to lie, actually, but he's still allowed to be upset and angry that she didn't trust him enough to tell him something so important. THAT SAID, YOU ARE NEVER ENTITLED TO TREAT OTHERS POORLY.
And that's what GETS me. He isn't upset that it was all revealed in such a painful and embarassing way when this could have been avoided, or that his lover struggled with this lie for so long without him, or that he feels he's lost his children. Squilf points it out in The Last Hope-- He's so ANGRY at Squilf that he will THROW HIS FAMILY AWAY
Lionblaze seems desperate to be his son again. Hollyleaf is gone for months, and Brambleclaw is still huffing about the secret when she comes back from the dead. Squilf is fawning in the hopes it makes him talk to her again. Doesn't matter. Brambleclaw Is Upsetti Spaghetti so the narrative will never examine his role in hurting this family he apparently loved so much.
(Narrative seems to understand full well that when Squilf lies for a good reason, that doesn't invalidate the hurt Brambleclaw felt... but when Brambleclaw is upset for a good reason, it actually DOES validate what he put her and his kids through)
In BB it is explicitly a disowning. He cuts them off as his children, and they reciprocate. BB!Lionblaze does so in a ball of fury, vowing that he has ONLY a mother.
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As a child, Dick liked to tease Bruce by dropping his voice as low as it would go and mimicking the Batman voice.
As an adult, Dick stares at the tattered cowl clutched tight in hands crusted with his fathers blood and thinks of how much it used to hurt his throat.
Why does it always have to hurt with Bruce?
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I decided to start talking about Wick and Rocky's relationship because I like their dynamics too, I like seeing Wick scared of Rocky and Rocky being aggressive with him, which is unusual because Rocky is rarely aggressive with anyone, but of course Wick is an exception to rule
Also my mini opinion about their possible relationship, I think that if Rocky didn't have to fight for his place, then he and Wick could become friends, or at least tolerate each other a little, I also see some superficial similarities, their gentlemanly and romantic natures, and their common love for explosions (remembering the quarrymen chapter), but this is my assumption, I think that I don't understand the characters' personalities well, so I can be wrong in this assumption, something like that. So, what do you think about their relationship?
for starters, i cannot thank you enough for this ask! as iā€™ve said previously, i have many thoughts on these two, so itā€™s nice to finally be able to share some of them. although given the extent to which i think about them, i apologize in advance if this is sloppy and sort of everywhere ā€¦ while iā€™ll try to structure things the best i can, i cannot promise iā€™ll succeed! but hopefully this is an enjoyable reply nonetheless.
one of my favorite things about rocky and wickā€™s relationship is absolutely how aggressive rocky is towards the aristocrat ; he is prone to glares and cruel jokes and borderline hissing whenever the man is within his line of sight, or can be brought to a wailing-fit over the mere mention of his name from miss mā€™s mouth. there is a childishness to it, but a very prominent threat as well in spite of rockyā€™s usual incompetence. so he goes out of his way to posture around wick, readily lying and adorning himself with the gangster drapes he so badly wants to wear, in the hopes that it intimidates ā€¦ will even badmouth wickā€™s family and make fun of his name and rock related obsession to mitzi, and so on so forth! yet all of this is very reminiscent of schoolyard bullying rather than anything too severe, though we as the audience understand rather quickly that rocky would bash wickā€™s head in with a tire iron if he could. ( translation : if it wouldnā€™t earn the tears or hate of a certain beloved mitzi may ) and itā€™s all very intense despite the absence of actual violence! and i understand why many fans see this as unusual for rocky and believe that itā€™s only wick who makes him act so aggressively, but iā€™d argue it isnā€™t really wick at all that prompts such scary reactions from him ā€¦ and that rocky is a deeply angry character whoā€™s a.) been boiling quietly for a long, long time and b.) has turned wick into a punching bag of sorts for this inner world of resentment and hurt. basically, when heā€™s judging the well-to-do or poking fun, his eyes donā€™t look at wick and actually acknowledge him as sedgewick sable ; instead this is a being, something vague and metaphorical, who threatens to upseat rockyā€™s permanence in the lackadaisy and steal away his savior, and heā€™s had a hand in the violinistā€™s misfortune for a long time.
obviously, rocky doesnā€™t think wick robbed him of his family twice over and made him homeless, but he is channeling the fear and anguish of those events into his loathing for wick, if that makes sense? itā€™s easier that way -- to finally have an outlet for everything bleeding inside of you, to be able to bite and claw at something without feeling conflicted or having to take personal accountability for your own mistakes ā€¦ which is something that i think rocky does struggle with to a degree. he is sort of a finger pointer! his pain has to be worth something, it has to be for someone else ; spending years homeless and losing his last bit of family was for freckle, and the scrambling of his literal brain was for mitzi, and that means he canā€™t ever be angry with them! well, except that he is, somewhat, but he buries it deep down instead of feeling it. with freckle there is a sense of strain between them -- an air of ā€˜you owe meā€™ from rocky to freckle as he uses freckle to appease miss m, and he constantly pokes fun at his cousin too. itā€™s lighter than his jabs at wick, but thereā€™s a constant pestering, a reminder of how good freckle has it : how heā€™s got the mom and the house and the job and the girl most notably. i donā€™t think rocky is intending to come across as mean, and to his credit he hardly does! but itā€™s rather clear to me that some part of him, some hidden and deeply hurt part, is rather indignant about taking the fall for freckle all those years ago. which he canā€™t understand, because how could he? he made that choice, he decided to take accountability for something he didnā€™t do because he loves freckle and knows itā€™d be so easy to believe this family tragedy was roarkā€™s fault ; the devilish child he was, all troublesome and too broken to properly fit anywhere. so there is a disconnect born here, where rocky canā€™t comprehend that heā€™d be angry at freckle, so instead these not so great feelings are placed elsewhere and silently boil over time. and with mitzi ā€¦ i donā€™t think heā€™s angry at her per se, but there is a frustrated and desperate chorus of : why him and why not me, when iā€™m the one out here dying for you? which is certainly unpleasant. of course, rather than allowing those feelings to be more aimed at miss m, whom he feels unloved by, he ( again! ) represses these emotions and allows them to fester into his greatest fears and fantastical complexes. i think there is a lot of other miscellaneous anger he could have towards others too ā€¦ perhaps some part of him is sore upon seeing ivyā€™s normal lifestyle, watching her go to university and knowing thatā€™s been taken from him. or an ache felt when hearing stories from zib and the band and how they used to travel successfully, living as nomads, and rocky is all too reminded of his similar lifestyle and how he couldnā€™t make it work as effortlessly. people with immense trauma are more prone to irrational anger and jealousy, to viewing everything around them as unfair and believing itā€™s even more unjust that so many people get to live comfortably while theyā€™ve suffered. a situation that gets more messy when youā€™re someone like rocky, a man whoā€™s willingly made choices that have harmed himself and wants to continue on with his smiling, bumbling fool of an act. he does not want to be angry, does not want to see it within himself, i think, which leads to an accidental increase of it.
all of this is to reiterate that wick is a scapegoat for rocky and nothing more. itā€™s why heā€™s rather hypocritical whenever it concerns the man. for example, it was stated by tracy that he looks down upon wick for his excessive presence at the bar, yet he appears to enjoy hanging out with zib -- who drinks just as often! he makes fun of how all wick ever talks about is rocks, when he himself is prone to poetry rambles that people find irritating or boring, and etc etc. this is also just a human nature thing, to critique someone you heavily dislike and even going as far as to belittle things you love or do in your own day to day because you just hate them that bad! but given rockyā€™s willingness to befriend anyone, it more so reeks of a dehumanization element. wick is every obstacle in his way, every divine force that threatens to send him packing again, so he is equal parts unnerved by wickā€™s presence and angry about it. it is mostly a fear response we are seeing, an emotion thatā€™s morphed into long held resentment and anger. so his actions are extremely defensive, with him trying to push wick far away and keep him and mitzi separate, like some sort of animal attempting to ward off a threat thatā€™s come too close to their home. despite the loaded animosity there, this hate has hardly reached its peak ā€¦ but it shall only grow more intense as things continue onward iā€™m afraid, since as it stands ( in the comic at least ) rocky is at an all time low ā€¦ and is ten times more desperate. iā€™d honestly say wick has become so warped in his mindā€™s eye that he can only strive towards ā€˜winningā€™ over the other man, because thatā€™s all he can see anymore. i think mitzi implying that wick willingly helped her out, the intense head injury, and rockyā€™s fragile emotional state is exactly what pushes him towards premeditated murder in look-see. i donā€™t know how people perceive that arc, but to me itā€™s very clear that rocky actively sought to see the deaths of wes and fish that night. going as far as to lament that heā€™d be, ā€œvery disappointed if ( he ) dreamed them,ā€ and purposefully luring the marigold duo away to have freckle pick them off. while you could argue that this was a smart move, in a gangster sort of sense, thereā€™s still no denying that rocky is oddly chipper about the whole thing and is now seeking death out ; whereas before his methods of vengeance were just, well, ruining peopleā€™s livelihood but ultimately leaving them alive. this isnā€™t to discredit the fact that rocky is going through something! he is in a very muddled and dark place, mentally and physically, but even tracy has said that the head injury hasnā€™t changed rockyā€™s personality -- itā€™s only brought things to the surface.
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source : q&a with tracy .
which, yeah! makes sense! head trauma can cause a person to become a wreck emotionally ( think mood swings, irritability, etc ) but it doesnā€™t completely morph someone either. personality changes may occur, but itā€™s not like youā€™re being rewritten entirely, you know? and given tracyā€™s old statement, itā€™s clear that ā€˜personality changesā€™ arenā€™t a side effect heā€™s suffering from. something that adds to my beginning statement, which is that rocky is a deeply angry and troubled person, more so than fans give him any credit for.
however, to touch upon your mini opinion about these two, i actually wholeheartedly agree that rocky and wick could become friends if circumstances were different. they do in fact have many superficial similarities, but one of the more prominent things they deeply share is never really belonging in the groups they frequent. this is more overt with rockyā€™s character, yet wick faces it too in subtle ways. the well-to-do crowd, seen through the investors, find the gentleman to be lacking in about every place imaginable ; to them he is an obsessive freak who cares too deeply for meager rocks, something they constantly mock him for, while heā€™s also being noticeably set apart from the rest of them ā€¦ he seems younger than the investors, more excitable, passionate, and a little less experienced, and doesnā€™t seem to care for money or reputation as much as them either. there is a constant rubbing between him and them, where what he enjoys is seen as wrong, such as his love for the lackadaisy and his choice in paramor, a grieving widow with extremely dangerous ties. we also know that wick doesnā€™t have many friends at all, with the only two he has being lacy and church ( church is listed as such on his character profile, in a sort of tongue-in-cheek way ), both of whom work for or with him. they are obliged to hang around, and while they care in varying ways, they are prone to judging him just as much. honestly, itā€™s not shocking that wick seeks refuge at his chosen speakeasy! but even there he is rather distant from everyone else. he doesnā€™t speak to zib ever in the comics, nor seems all too close with viktor, ivy, or horatio ā€¦ it is merely mitzi he is close to, even if he knows of the other people who work there. and, once again, wick very obviously doesnā€™t fit in. he is not gangster material, could never be an atlas may replacement, much less someone who could get his paws dirty in such an active way. so he has his feet in two different worlds and doesnā€™t know how to fit into either of them, or which one he actually wants to fit into more. i think in many ways rocky could relate -- these are two very lonely people who wish to belong somewhere and be accepted by some group or another but go about it in all the wrong ways. wick, who is too hesitant to fully commit to what he wants and is worse off for it, and then rocky, who obsessively throws himself against what he wants until he breaks every bone in his body. they also have explosives to bond over, lol, and other miscellaneous things like their taste in women i suppose ā€¦ but this potential bond adds to the tragedy of lackadaisy, where we see two people who on every level should get along but weā€™re burdened with the knowledge that itā€™s an impossibility anyway, because thereā€™s no removing the circumstance of which theyā€™re in.
though i like to believe that despite wickā€™s fear of rocky, he maintains a kindness towards him regardless. i think his worries about rocky are rather surface level ā€¦ he doesnā€™t know the boy at all, really, and thus canā€™t make heads or tails of him, hence him believing the lie in balderdash. so when iā€™m feeling particularly self indulgent, i like imagining a world where theyā€™re forced together and sort of ā€˜stuckā€™ together ; to which rocky finally breaks and exposes his wounds to wick, in every sense of the word, and wick finally gets him. the aggression, the possessiveness of mitzi ā€¦ it is all fear and desperation and a profound sadness, things heā€™d sympathize with. if rocky was able to explain that he loathes wick because if he saves the lackadaisy then mitzi wonā€™t need him anymore and that itā€™s not fair that wick gets to so easily fix things when rocky would give his soul for his home, for her, and how wick could render every sacrifice heā€™s already made for naught by smoothing things over with some greenbacks and he canā€™t lose this, he just canā€™t --! ā€¦ which, well, wick is too kind of a man to be able to do anything except feel awful, even though itā€™s not his fault at all. here we have two people who could coexist! and they should, since rocky logically canā€™t do every speakeasy job ( band member, rumrunner, mitziā€™s shadow, also the guy who gets the money for the hooch ) by himself, just like how wick canā€™t save the lackadaisy with only his cash and limited booze stash. itā€™d be a joint cooperation, a collaboration between them, both equally important in the grand scheme of crimeā€™s every turning wheel ā€¦ but rockyā€™s rage and fear wonā€™t let him see that, and likely never will. still, in scenarios where everything ends up alright for the lackadaisy and the people involved in it ( which is not how canon will go, by the way ), i fancy wick and rocky getting better within their relationship. rocky will always be prickly and quick to upset around the other man sadly, but perhaps he could see wick in a softer kind of light. or at least understand vaguely enough that he isnā€™t out to get rocky, so to speak. and then maybe wick learns that pancakes soothe rockyā€™s ire and poorly makes them anytime he wishes to talk to the man, and other fun things like that! but you should have more confidence in your character analysis skills, because you were spot on ( at least in my eyes ) about them potentially getting along if things were different. itā€™s certainly a fun aspect to play around with, and is important to note when discussing their relationship so you can fully understand just how warped rockyā€™s perspective on things are. and how unstable and traumatized he is too, of course </3 sidenote, but i also hope that throughout everything iā€™ve said here, or anything iā€™ve said before on my blog, that my love for rocky and my own sympathy for him comes across well enough. while heā€™s deeply flawed and i have no qualms discussing said flaws in depth, i also donā€™t think of him as some insane freak whoā€™s evil at his core or anything like that. honestly, i adore analyzing him so much as a character because of how far down his issues go! heā€™s very well written, iā€™ll say, as is wick and many of the other characters, but i digress.
once more, thank you for the ask! iā€™ll end this here because i fear if i donā€™t iā€™ll start going in circles, since their relationship is so vast and very important for rocky in a character sense. hopefully i shed some more light on it though! i love these two to bits and pieces and i wouldnā€™t be half as invested in lackadaisy if their dynamic wasnā€™t so monumental -- at least to me.
#my asks.#lackadaisy analysis.#lackadaisy#rocky rickaby#sedgewick sable#tracy j butler#i also think rockyā€™s sudden taste for marigold blood is him making marigold his other scapegoat#he isnā€™t dealing with anything in a healthy manner and is so traumatized itā€™s starting to spill out of him ā€¦ which is. uh. not good!!#but it sure is whatā€™s currently happening regardless#cannot stress enough that rock is a very ill and traumatized individual who hasnā€™t had a single break in his life#he is constantly in stressful situations that are dangerous ā€¦ and like.#when youā€™re constantly put in those situations you become numb. and angry. and it becomes hard to heal#or to truly connect to others ā€¦ etc#i could talk in depth about rockyā€™s traumas and why theyā€™ve caused this anger issue and this inner disharmony inside#because frankly thereā€™s a lot there! and i hate to say it but people who are hurt normally show their hurt in ugly ways#especially if mentally ill ā€¦ which rocky is imo#itā€™s just the reality of things! this isnā€™t me demonizing mental illness or the effects of trauma. iā€™m just being realistic here#someone as deeply troubled as rocky ( someone with NO outlet and whom hides his feelings from others and himself )#is bound to be. well. troubled!! his smiling facade is merely another mask he wears to cope and to be good for the people he loves#it is not ā€¦ really rocky rickaby ā€¦ rocky rickaby is that and the wrath and the self destruction and more#AHEM but i digress. how rocky treats wick and all that has really done wonders for understanding his character#and i truly love the wick / rocky / mitzi trio so bad. their relationships with each other is what drew me into this world#like. i am shaking them so much. the overlap!! the complexities inherit in their bonds and what that says about the individual characters!#itā€™s amazing truly lol like ā€¦ i have had such fun thinking about them twenty four seven for the past three-ish months#anyway. anyway! i love analyzing these bitches. they can fit so much into them#and iā€™m rooting for wickmitzi endgame and for wick to desperately try to bond with rocky ā€¦ while his bloodshot eye is twitching as we speak#lots of fun!!! lots of pain and agony too ā€¦ rocky is nothing but a painful character alas. that is his nature. but that is also his appeal#and ooops iā€™ll shut up in the tags now i just. have a lot to say. and a lotta love to give to these two!! but uh. yeah <3 loved writing thi
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I like to think that during pfl (using his s9 characterization, not s10) wash is the guy you go to when you want to know something (ah la a line in the fall of reach novel I believe where chief says the enlisted personnel always seem to know stuff bc wash is clearly enlisted).
he's in a position where he's privy to information from the higher-ups, and he's friendly enough with the lower rungs that he knows the gossip going around. as a bonus though, wash ain't no narc, so if you want that information you need to offer him something of equivalent exchange (consequently fueling the 'guy who knows things' thing). for example, north had to tell him about using equipment in the field in order to get him to tell him what his meeting with internals was about.
wash isn't the only guy who knows things, of course, but he's the guy who has the widest base of general knowledge. ct is also someone who knows things, but she's a lot more specific, and what she lacks in scale she more than makes up for with how in-depth her knowledge is. wash is where you learn about something from, ct is where you get all the juicy details (to the point of it almost being tmi). she also has an equivalent exchange policy, but people tend to be a bit more reluctant to get information from her because of what her knowledge is (and the borderline 'insane conspiracy theorist' energy doesn't help either).
florida? well...you don't wanna know what he knows. the cost is simply too high.
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pinkmirth Ā· 2 years ago
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a photo dump for the birthday boy!
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dykespence Ā· 1 day ago
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Love how carla went from 'hmm idk idkk I like her but this is so new haha uncharted waters I mean like' to 'DONT. GET. DRESSED' in a matter of minutes
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hadesoftheladies Ā· 4 months ago
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let me be so fr y'all. i will NEVER shame a woman for having a man that treats her right. okay? that's always going to be a win, why would i complain about that? i just think that most of y'all that say you found him are fckn lying.
like i've watched women in dv situations lie through their teeth. they'll lie to their besties who know them freckle to freckle about their bruises. it doesn't even have to be abuse. i know how much women lie to keep up appearances with other women and i'm just saying i'm not buying it with most of y'all. that's my truth. and i start having issues when you start lying about that reality to younger women who will most likely just end up in the same shitty relationship bc of the false hope women in mid-to-shitty relationships with men espouse. and i can tell they're lying even MORE when they start trying to talk about how "women aren't necessarily better" whether that's about celibate or same-sex-partnered women. they'll drag their own female friends in order to convince everyone else that their man is truly the real deal as a status symbol. they'll shit on what their friends do for them in order to justify their veneration of this mid-ass moid. i've just seen it happen too many times, and that's why i think it's justified that radfems draw parallels between het-partnered feminists and liberal women who cling to femininity. y'all talk the exact same most of the time and even have the same arguments.
anyways.
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cryptiduni Ā· 1 year ago
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ā€œwhite mourning.ā€
#ā€˜ā€˜A white mourning. A modern death. Divorce or something similar. All you can do is put more distance between you & him. make him smaller.ā€™ā€™#jean is a very easy character to hate if you know nothing about him. & you know what they say. easy target doesnā€™t make for a good practice#judit literally compares harry to intellectually disabled man yet you donā€™t see ppl hating her because she is outwardly nice.#sheā€™s polite yes but she doesnā€™t care as much as jean cares for harry#he is not perfect. he is mean. but loyal. if he truly didn't care he wouldn't hab come back to martinaise & coulda just reported harryā€™s as#he put up with du boisā€™ bullshit for years and built a toxic (totally straight) relationship with him yet always comes back.#he says he will leave you in the village to die but please understand harry isn't exactly a great person. especially pre-bender hdb.#planned a make up joke & put on a wig for hdb even tho he wasnā€™t the who started the whole fiasco#you can hate him all you want for leaving harry before & during tribunal but how could he have foreseen all this bullshit would have happen#his second leaving is kinda bullshit writing but#jv is dealing with his own demons too. clinical depression. partner almost died. job is shit. case spiraling out control#i do not blame the DE staff either. sometimes shit just happens. not everything needs a grand explanation.#but it definitely coulda been handled better. but i understand. resources were sparse.#i relate to ā€‹jv. as someone with temper issues & attention problems i have to remove myself from the scene or i'll say shit i'd regret late#my man is having the worst week of his life. leave him alone.#kim is great but have u heard of a man who thinks he's old when he is only 30 & luvs horses & his commie boyfriend that he's divorcin' soon#disco elysium#de fanart#jean vicquemare#disco elysium fanart#jean heron vicquemare#jean posting#illustration#de#artists on tumblr#I WANTED TO DRAW THIS FOR MONTHSSS YOU COULDN'T IMAGINE. HE LITERALLY HAUNTED ME IN MY SLEEP!!!#i love him normal amount. very healthy. much feelings#my little maiu maiu#cryptiduni#my art
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itsafternoonpast5 Ā· 9 months ago
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thinking about their friendship so hard
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amrubrum Ā· 2 months ago
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getting pretty hard to defend legend rn ngl
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