#let barbara be oracle and tim be red robin

[onnahu]

Bats on the road

Clark: Bruce that's illegal!

Bruce: there's no one else on the road, what do you want?

Hal: how is it that he doesn't have powers and yet drive like a suicidal maniac!

Oliver: Well bold of you to assume he's not a suicidal maniac.

Diana: that was reassuring.

Donna: oh for the love of gods, Grayson, stop that!

Dick *sprawled over 3 different titans eating the batburger and making a mess*: stop what?

Titans: Ughhhh...

Dinah: i'm gonna puke. If you don't stop this,i'm gonna puke right on your lap and i won't even apologise because it'll be your fault.

Barbara:

Barbara: you know what? Fuck you too. And i can puke on call, so don't think i won't get back.

Barbara: *speeds up on a switchback*

Jason: you stupid bitch, don't you see we have right of way?!?!

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Jason: we're on a fucking highway! Stop driving like you're next to a kindergarden, you fucker!

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Jason: what a dick! We should just hit him. This baby can take that!

Artemis: SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Roy: i hate to do that, but I agree with her

Tim: oh my god it's a... (insert a rant about a very specific model of a car that Tim dreamed of having as a 13 years old)

Bart: ...what?

Cassie: yeah, i have no idea what's going on too, buddy...

[outtamynoggin]

It's crazy what he gets away with (and who the ones letting him get away with it are)

Bruce: What Nightwing did might have been... unconventional, but it worked.

Tim: Exactly. I mean, sure, the plan might have involved hacking into Gotham’s power grid, a few strategic distractions, and, uh, some minor illegal surveillance-

Barbara: MINOR? DISTRUBANCES??

Tim: Okay, fine! The plan also had a teensy bit of hacking into the stock market, manipulating a few politicians, and borrowing a couple confidential documents, but nobody was harmed!

Bruce: ...In the strictest sense.

Tim: Yes! See, it's a win-win solution!

Barbara: *furious* You two are insane. You’re treating morally ambiguous like it’s a fun new hobby. He practically engineered an escape from a high-security prison by tricking the entire staff into thinking it was game night. In addition, he orchestrated a city-wide blackout just to steal classified documents, and you’re calling it genius?

Bruce: Very resourceful.

Tim: I mean... it’s not his fault they didn’t know how to play Dungeons & Dragons. Also, I want to see who else could pull off a high-profile heist while simultaneously launching a PR campaign for a new tech startup!

Bruce: *to Tim* Wayne Enterprise's tech gadgets cleared the shelves, we need to speed up production.

Tim: Already on it.

Barbara: You’re defending this? That’s not genius, that’s a psychotic breakdown wrapped in a cape! It's madness layered up in a three-piece suit!

Bruce and Tim: It’s Dick.

Barbara: I swear, if it was anyone else, you’d be throwing them in a cell for years.

Bruce and Tim: It’s Nightwing. He has plausible deniability.

Barbara: Plausible? I think he has a whole separate universe of deniability!

[finemeal]

I’ve been seeing a lot of: what would the batfam do for Bruce on Mother’s Day? And I’m like: … nothing, he has Father’s Day? So here’s what I ACTUALLY think what some of the batfam would be doing on Mother’s Day since most of them are without Mother’s (sad)

Alfred: We don’t know much, if anything, about Alfred’s mother. But, I can’t imagine Alfred not doing something to honor her. Whether that's cooking dishes she taught him, enjoying an activity they used to do together, or simply him sitting in silence as he reflects on fond memories they had together. Maybe he'll even tell anyone who's willing to listen stories about her.

Bruce: I imagine Bruce is visiting his mother’s grave on Mother’s Day. From my research, some Jewish people place small stones on the gravestone to mark their presence, so I imagine he’d spend countless hours before the day finding the perfect stone to place. After he leaves the grave, he’d spend time doing things he used to do with her, or get things for her that he wished he could now. Maybe he’d spend time at the Elderly home with mother’s whose kids can’t/don’t visit to make sure they get to enjoy Mother’s Day as well.

Dick: I can see Dick going to a circus, or Haly's Circus, on Mother's Day to celebrate his mom. I imagine on the day his parents died, he goes to their graves, but on Mother's Day he does what they used to do on Mother's Day which is: enjoy the circus. If he's able, maybe he even performs at Haly's Circus in her honor. Spending time somewhere he used to spend with his mom is something I can see him doing. I can even see him buying flower's and gifting them to either some stranger at the circus to brighten the mom's day up, or to one of the mom's who works at Haly's Circus. And if he's at Haly's Circus, I can see him talking to people and swapping stories about his mother, surrounded by people who loved her and misses her.

Barbara: When it comes to what Barbara would do on Mother's Day, it's actually really complicated. In some continuities she's dead, in other's she's alive but moved away. If she died, I imagine Barbara would spend Mother's Day with her family as they do things to honor Barb's mom's memory. Most likely, doing things they used to do with her mom on Mother's Day. If she's alive? Well then shit dude, Barbara's spending Mother's Day with her mom and doing whatever she wants. I don't know how close they are canonically, but I can see Barbara at the very least getting a meal with her mom or sending her gifts to celebrate Mother's Day.

Jason: Jason had, and lost, two mom's: the mom who raised him and the mom who birthed him. I imagine that he used to celebrate Mother's Day differently by spending the day mourning. But now-a-days he spends it in Crime Alley either taking care of mother's (no matter how old/young), and/or spending time with kids who, like him, lost their mom. I imagine he does this to honor both of his mom's who he lost, unable to celebrate with them but able to celebrate their memory with other people. He likely, like Alfred, would even tell anyone who asked about his moms and memories he had with them (though some are worse than others).

Tim: No matter how you feel about how Janet Drake did as a mother, Tim CANONICALLY was distraught over her death and mourned her. I think the Mother's Days that happened when his dad was still alive was doing things they used to do with her. After his dad died, I think Tim at first didn't want to celebrate it, but over time either goes somewhere with Bernard to distract themselves or they do what Tim and his dad used to do.

Stephanie: We actually see a lot more of Crystal Brown in comics than gets talked about in fandom, likely because her appearances dwindled when New 52 happened. But, as far as I can tell, Stephanie and her mom had a (mostly) good relationship. I think for Mother's Day, Stephanie would be spending the day with her mom. Going out to eat, doing whatever her mom wanted to do, and just spending good quality time together.

Cass: Now, obviously, Cass's relationship with her mother is ... complicated to say the least. I can see scenarios where maybe one Mother's Day they do sorta spend time together, but in a very toxic way most likely. Most Mother's Days, I can see Cass either taking the day to herself or tagging along with someone for their Mother's Day activities.

Damian: Damian's mother is VERY much alive and he VERY MUCH loves his mom. Damian spends Mother's Day with Talia al Ghul if she is available, if she's not then he tags along with Bruce and learns more about his grandmother. But, Damian very likely prefers spending time with his mom on Mother's Day and doing some bonding with her (as much as he can, really).

Duke: Duke's mom is not dead, she's even actually been cured of the Joker Venom! Duke is spending Mother's Day with his mom, doing what she wants and soaking up all the time he gets to spend with her (especially since, at one point, she was practically lost to him). They get good mother-son bonding time and he 100% gets her her favorite flowers and chocolate and writes a card that makes her cry.

[supermarvelgirl15]

He just wants his family :(

[the-bat-bros]

Dick accidentally letting an “I love you” slip out when talking to Babs

CACKLING they’re so cute your honor

From Nightwing #93

[nomoneybeetieblog]

me because racism,classism,misogyny, homophobia, incest ,ableism and weaponized incompetence are really big things on the batfamily

[horsechestnut]

Reverse Robins Tim changing his name from Oracle to Spoiler after Stephanie's death.

[inamindfarfaraway]

I had to do Team Batgirl. Babs is Oracle, Cass is Black Bat and Steph is Batgirl as per pre-New 52. Remember, the core drive of each emotion is benevolent, no matter how bad they feel. Sadness is responsible for empathy, sympathy and asking for help; Fear wants to keep us and what we care about safe; Anger wants things to be fair; and Disgust wants to protect us from physical, social or moral contamination. They're all the basis for more complex emotions and processes, e.g. Fear enables forethought and common sense for risk evaluation, Anger inspires courage and bold, direct action and Disgust is highly involved in meeting social expectations.

[Babs's Headquarters has a similar professional atmosphere to Bruce's. The walls are dark grey. Behind the immaculate main office, a few closed doors partition off other spaces, probably more personal ones. The memory shelves are longer than average and have additional walled channels beneath them to store memory orbs that fall from overflow, and the memories glow unusually bright; there are no windows and the room is lit by overhead office lights, the sight screen and the memory orbs. Her emotions are also in wheelchairs and wear glasses, with individual styles and decorations. Her console is a large, angular, intricate control panel of gleaming silver metal, elegant and futuristic, at which sit Fear at the helm, Anger at her right hand and Joy at her left, then Sadness and Disgust next to them.]

Fear: We’re scanning our entire surveillance network, but the Joker is still unaccounted for. We should check in with Cassandra and Stephanie.

Joy: I’m so proud of them. Permission to verbalize that to them, ma’am?

Fear: Don’t know if we’ll have time.

Anger: Yeah, expressing vulnerability takes a lot of energy, and we all agreed to divert 75% of it to single-minded fixation on justice until Joker is back in Arkham. Preferably via ambulance.

Fear: I’ll schedule a tight smile for when the girls get back, but no guarantee Babs will remember it then. Our short-term memory bank is already full to bursting.

Disgust: (under her breath, annoyed) As always.

Sadness: So, um… Dick hasn't called us back yet, but I think he wants to. Maybe we should call him.

Fear: No, we’re both busy. We can catch up tommorow.

[Cass's Headquarters is largely a fusion of a dojo and a gym, a wide open space with mats, punching bags and other exercise and martial arts equipment. The walls and floor are made of wooden boards. A set of floor-to-ceiling windows at the back and sides shaped like Bat symbols make the space light and airy. There is no console. Rather, an elevated black stage with yellow curtains is before the screen. Sadness is centre-stage, flanked by Anger and Fear, then Joy and Disgust. The black surface lights up with squares of the emotions’ respective colours under their feet as they dance in a graceful, perfectly coordinated ballet routine to classical music. Until Fear makes a different move to the others. An alarm beeps, cutting off the music, and everyone freezes. The others stare at Fear. Anger is offended, Sadness and Joy are intrigued and Disgust is confused.]

Anger: (folds her arms, raises an eyebrow and puffs out her chest at Fear challengingly)

Sadness: (gently holds Anger in place with a hand on her shoulder and nods to Fear)

Fear: (cringes, but cautiously makes the move again)

Anger: (clenches her fists and gestures in outrage to Sadness)

Joy: (steps forward and holds Fear’s hand in support, making unintimidated eye contact with Anger)

Disgust: (looks ahead through Cass’s eyes, unlike any of the others are, due to boredom with the dispute)

Disgust: Ugh. More henchmen.

Sadness: You handle it.

Disgust: Fiiiine.

[The emotions reshuffle so that Disgust is centre-stage. She dances alone to simpler music with only one instrument. The others retreat upstage, Sadness between Anger and Fear and Joy as she tries to mediate.]

Joy: (stands protectively in front of Fear and beckons for Anger to bring it on, balancing her weight)

Sadness: (shakes her head disapprovingly, unseen by anyone)

Anger: (yells wordlessly and punches Joy)

[The four break into a fight, tumbling offstage onto the mats. Disgust rolls her eyes.]

[Steph's Headquarters is furnished much like a mundane living room, with white walls, a purple sofa and carpeted floor, cluttered coffee table, lamps emitting warm light, windows and a comfortable atmosphere. The doors to ancillary rooms are open. Tucked away by the memory orb shelves, two cardboard boxes of purple, blue, red and green memory orbs marked ‘Trauma - FRAGILE’ remain unpacked. Her console resembles a video game controller, being white, rounded and covered in colourful buttons, switches and joysticks. It has a single chair, a spinning black one made with purple cushions. Joy is seated, gleefully wiggling a joystick. Anger is on her right, excitedly watching the mission, and Sadness is on her left, concerned. Disgust is hovering at the side of the console, not very interested. Fear is on the sofa, quietly writing in a puzzle book.]

Joy: We’ve got this in the bag. None of these bozos even know we’re here.

[She reaches to press a yellow button. Disgust notices, abruptly invested, and pushes past Sadness to grab Joy’s hand.]

Disgust: But they will if you quip from so near them. And then we’re gonna fail and Babs is gonna make her disappointed face and, like, never trust Steph with a stealth mission again.

Joy: Good point.

Anger: There’s the ringleader! Aw, Cass is already beating him up.

Sadness: (sighs and leans on the console, turning it partially blue) She was a way better Batgirl. We’ll never come close and everyone knows it.

Joy: (batting her arm away) Sadness, we’ve talked about this. Steph earned her place and has nothing to prove. Everything's gonna be fine. Okay, let’s just sneak past and get out with the intel -

Fear: Hey, guys, do you ever think about how Steph’s daughter could die at any moment and we wouldn’t even know?

[The others tense and flinch. The console lights up purple and fades to blue.]

Joy: SHUT UP, FEAR!

Disgust: So not the time!

Sadness: (crying) I am now!

Anger: This is why we never listen to you!

[corkinavoid]

DPxDC Not So Artificial Intelligence

Barbara thinks it was Bruce, with his love for new additions to the Cave. Bruce thinks it was Tim, with his late hyperfixation on AI. Tim thinks it was Babs, with her ever evolving network of keeping everything under control.

They are all wrong, but the fact stays a fact: the BatCave has an AI assistant now.

It is not very good at first, not recognizing voices very well and messing up commands, but the Bats write it off as a learning curve. Besides, it never makes the same mistakes twice, and in a couple of months, even the tiniest slip ups fade away.

Its name is Betty. First, Dick named it Bat-AI (a reasonable name), then it transformed into Bat-I for easier pronunciation, and then Steph called in Betty once, and the name was sealed.

And they all love Betty. Betty is the best, keeping track of their everyday lives, reminding them of their civilian meetings and vigilante business, alerting them of any suspicious activity in the city. Oracle finally gets to sleep for more than 4 hours in a day with Betty's help. Tim gets company when he is three weeks in and elbows deep in a case - it's easier when he has an illusion of someone to discuss the matter with, and Betty even offers him insight. Damian learns to do digital art just to have a little competition with Betty. He wins, but the AI is a worthy opponent, in his opinion.

Even Bruce begrudgingly likes the AI assistant. She is competent and helpful, and Alfred seems to approve of how she doesn't let Bruce overwork himself when he escapes medbay to keep searching for answers.

That is, until one day, Tim installs speakers specifically for Betty in the Cave.

The voice that comes from them is not robotic or mechanical.

It definitely has human intonation.

"Hello, Red Robin," the voice - a male voice, actually - greets him with slight amusement. Tim feels an uneasy feeling sinking down in his stomach.

"Betty?"

"You know me as such. I would prefer it if you called me Danny. He/them pronouns."

Remind him, who installed the AI?..

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Danny got trapped inside the Batcomputer somehow - I suspect Technus had a hand in it - and decided to embrace it. He used to be a vigilante himself, so why not help this whole family of vigilantes while he is at it? They look like they need a hand.

[eggfriedricedwasian]

Joker Junior Tim but Tim's afraid of Harley and JJ loves Harley because that's his mom.

When Harley first found out that Tim was JJ and that the bats were the Waynes, she was torn. She wanted so bad to spend time with her son and to apologize, but she couldn't. She felt horrible for what she did.

Reason being is the first time she confronted Red Robin, or Robin at the time, while on patrol. She had found him on a roof and he had been so terrified of her he was shivering. Her heart hurt for Tim, who was scared of her.

She left him alone after that, always choosing to avoid the bird's line of sight and hearing range so he wouldn't be scared. It wasn't until one of the other bats talked to her, Oracle, that she decided to try to get close to Robin.

At first she started by sitting at the farthest end of the building where Tim was perched. She watched him for a few minutes before looking away. This happened several times.

At the point he stopped shivering and looking as tense as he used to be, she moved closer. Day by day, week by week, month by month, she got close to him till she was sitting next to him.

They had started up a friendship then. She would do most the talking, making motherly gestures here and there, till one day, he fell asleep on her. She had taken him to her house that winter night and tucked him into bed, kissing him goodnight and setting out breakfast, hot chocolate, and fresh clothes along with a bag the next morning.

He was scared, of course, this was a villain's anti-hero's house, you couldn't drop your guard too much.

He knew he shouldn't have trusted her.

"Goodmorning, kiddo. I made you some pancakes and hot chocolate. There's some clothes on the bedside and a bag for your costume, Timmy, that way you don't have to go home in that."

He stood frozen as he stared at the large stack of pancakes laid out. He slowly moved forward, taking the fork next to the plate and took a piece off of it.

He hesitated when biting it, but when he did, nothing was wrong with it. It tasted amazing.

He had almost choked several times when he scarfed down the pancakes, the best pancakes he's ever tasted if he does say so himself(sorry Alfred), and thanked her.

He changed and put his stuff in the bag before getting ready to leave, but he stopped himself.

He looked at her, and she looked confusedly at him.

"About the Joker.."

He didn't need to finish his sentence, she already knew.

She sat down and motioned him to sit in the seat next to her, so he did.

She didn't look him in the eye when she spoke. She talked for a while, told him about her relationship with the Joker, about how sorry she was about what she helped do to him, everything.

After that talk, their relationship changed. They became closer, the bats noticed.

Alfred, Bruce, and Barbara seemed indifferent to the change in their relationship, because they knew what happened. They were happy about it, even, about how well their relationship has grown.

At one point, though, things changed again. Red Robin was taken and electrocuted, triggering JJ to cone out. The bats were stuck, unable to do anything without JJ doing something in return, Red Hood was frozen in place despite himself.

It wasn't until Harley entered the scene that JJ ran to her, hugging her, calling her mama that he calmed down enough and started crying.

"Oh Junior, it's okay baby. Mommy's here."

Harley kept saying those comforts until Ivy arrived and swept them away.

"Hey!" Nightwing called out, prepared to go after them. Batman, however, stopped him, stepping up to Ivy.

"Have you got him?" he asked her. "Yes, we'll take care of him until he's better. Tomorrow's your only time I'm allowing you in my place to give him things. Your next visit is when he asks." She warned him. He nodded in return, unphased by her threat.

"B, why did you let them take him."

"There are things you don't know, about the time when Red Robin started out as Robin." Was the simple answer Batman gave them before he left, clearing out the area.

[reubyanne]

Tim: I don't think we're on the same page anymore. let's break this relationship.

Steph: ... yeah, sure. i know it'll end like this.

Tim: I'm sorry.

Stephanie: it's none of your fault, i–

Barbara, on intercom: uhh.. Red Robin, Spoiler.. sorry to interrupt your break up event but your intercom is still on and the whole family could hear.. uh.. meeting at batcave tomorrow at 8 p.m sharp. oracle head out .

Tim: ...

Steph: ...

Tim: so.. see you tomorrow at batcave?

Steph: uh, see you tomorrow.. at batcave..

Dick, whispering but still heard through the intercom: this is awkward..

Tim: we can hear you, Nightwing.

Dick: uh, want some bat burger?

Jason: I'll take it.

[aroace-madness]

What if Bruce being Batman was an open secret that literally every single gothamite knew that the bat vigilante that roams the roofs of Gotham during ungodly hours of the night is the same Bruce that fell into the fountain in the park just last week

They're not stupid, they figured it out during Bruce's first week as Batman, same height, build, showed up soon after Bruce came back to Gotham

They're going to deny that fact to any other hero that's not from Gotham, Bruce is their prince, their knight, they're not going to just rat him out like that no that's crazy

Bruce protects them both during the day with all his charity work and contribution and during the night fighting criminals and thugs making things at least a bit better

That extends to all the Robins

First Robin? Dick Grayson and after he grew up he became Nightwing and moved the Blüdhaven (the Gothamites are jealous of Blüd for "stealing" their bird but they're proud of Dick for making a name for himself)

Second Robin? Jason Todd, killed by Joker at 15 (a horrible tragedy but Hey he came back as Red Hood so that's great)

The batgirls? Barbara Gordon, the daughter of the Police officer Jim Gordon and now works as Oracle, Stephanie Brown who was briefly a Robin and now Spoiler and Cassandra Cain Wayne who's now the ever terrifying Orphan

Tim Drake? The son of Jake and Janet Drake? The Waynes neighbour? The fourth Robin and Red Robin, a terrifying kid who knows too much for his own good

And the current Robin? Damian Wayne, Bruce's only biological child. God only knows where he came from but the Gothamites don't mind one bit, he's a true sweetheart even if a bit blunt at times but that's why they love him

The newest addition to the Wayne Clan? Duke Thomas? Signal of course the only day time vigilante of Gotham, every Gothamites wishes his parents a quick recovery and is glad that he chose vigilantism and stepped away from "we are Robins" movements as good as they were (at least the boy has some adult supervision)

Those are their bats and birds, and they're not gonna let any outsider hero ruin it for them

[speedforce-zoomies]

You know… I can’t stop thinking of a specific type of deaged Tim Au

One where Tim blinks awake and instead of Bruce and Alfred and Dick and Barbs in the cave with him it’s Bruce and a tall man in a red helmet, two teens, one in yellow and the other in a Robin suit. There’s also a couple of girls, one blonde, one with short black hair.

And everyone’s starring at him but Tim’s pretty good at rolling with the punches, so he sits up and waits for Bruce to make introductions and he looks at Tim and Tim looks back unflinchingly and so he does, “This is Jason,” and Tim looks at Bruce for confirmation. The man nods so he offers his hand and when Jason hesitantly shakes it, Tim says “Welcome Back” Jason blinks, in surprise? and just nods in response.

“This is Damian, my son” Tim looks at him and cocks his head, he doesn’t let it show on his face but he’s trying to put the pieces together, was he in the future? Has he been deaged? Has he been in a coma for several years? He doesn’t ask any of that, just “Talia?” after a moment and Damian nods, and Tim smiles at him, hand out “It’s great to meet you, hope our transition was smoother than all the other legacies” he jokes and Damian grimaces as they shakes hands and Tim laughs, not really amused, “Yeah, guess it wouldn’t be, would it?”

He ignores the weight of the silence and heavy the tension in the air.

Bruce nods to the other teen, who’s already reaching over to pat Tim’s shoulder, “Hey, Duke,” He introduces himself, “We’re all glad you’re alright man. Try not to do that again, will you?”

Tim nods, “I’ll do my best,” he promises, amusement clear. It’s reflected in Duke’s expression.

“My daughter, Cassandra” Bruce introduces the young woman with short black hair and she and the blonde hug him without much warning, “and her best friend, and one of yours, Stephanie.”

So not a coma, then. That makes sense, his body doesn’t feel different enough from… whenever he last was… actually…? He kind of wishes that they’d focus on introductions after telling him what’s going on.

He nods even as he relaxes slightly into the hug.

There’s something Bruce isn’t saying, something off about the way he’s emphasizing my but Tim chooses to ignore it.

They break the hug and Tim tries to be still, to be patient, to relax amongst the stranger’s surrounding him.

He doesn’t ask about Dick, or Barbara, or Alfred or Helena, even though he really, really wants to.

He is about to ask what happened when suddenly Dick is sliding past the door that is also a clock and racing down the stairs, skipping steps, and Tim lights up.

He’s older, his hair is different, but he’s Dick.

Tim jumps off the cot, stumbles a bit, but shrugs it off, even as several pairs of hands reach out to steady him and runs and throws himself at Dick.

He face plants into the others chest and Dick gathers him close, laughing in relief as Tim relaxes his weight fully, trusting his brother to keep him safe in a place that that’s never really had enough people to fill it up before but now feels suffocating.

Tim lets Dick pat him down, checking for injuries without much complaint.

The computer flickers on and Oracles green face pops up on the screen… there’s something that pings in his head when she breaths out his name but he ignores it in favor for pulling away from Dick to wave at her brightly, she says his name again but it’s happy and tearful all at once, telling him how close of a call it was… whatever it was that happened to him.

He then throws himself backwards where Dick is already ready to catch him and he laughs at Dick’s exasperated but fond exhale.

The others stare, in silence.

Tim avoids Bruce’s eyes, to be polite, the man is older and wearier than he was before, and Tim tries to not show it on his face.

Dick ushers him back to the cot and sits down on it with him, letting Tim rest against his side, arm around the fourteen year old’s shoulder.

Bruce isn’t the man he remembers him to be, a shadow in his eyes that Tim has never seen before, even as he kept the man from completely sinking into his grief with stubbornness alone.

There’s something off about Barbara, her voice subdued.

Alfred is notably missing and no one brings up Helena.

The blonde, Stephanie, is typing furiously, shoulders hunched like she was trying to hide behind Cassandra, though of course, she couldn’t, really, telling Tim there were others, even more people who wanted updates.

He feels off footed.

He says nothing.

He curls up to Dick whose talking, what he’s saying is important because it’s coming from Dick, but it’s not relevant to the situation he finds himself in currently so he lets his bother’s voice mostly wash over him as he takes in his ultra vigilant audience, tracking their movements and taking notes of their expressions.

There’s something off about these people.

He keeps it to himself.

At least Dick is here.

[ashoss]

a brief explanation and probably incomplete timeline of the batgirls bc i’ve seen a lot of people flip flop between their (mostly cass and stephs) names (i got a bit sidetracked with this.. whoops)

bette/betty kane: bat-girl, flamebird, hawkfire

the silver age batgirl. she was introduced along side kathy kane’s batwoman. these two would become kate and bette, the modern batwoman and flamebird/hawkfire

sometimes her run is mentioned, sometimes not, other times it’s a passing joke

young justice 1998 #21

she becomes flamebird and joins teen titans (titans west) for a bit. she sticks around as flamebird until kate kane's batwoman run (batwoman 2011)

kate trains her as plebe

batwoman (2011) #1

and then she becomes hawkfire under the DEO

batwoman (2011) #16, #17

i think dc forgot abt her lowkey

barbara gordon: batgirl, oracle

probably the batgirl you think of when you hear batgirl. she took bette’s place in 1967 and is still somehow stuck in the roll.

secret origins 1986 #20

she gets shot in the killing joke (1988), paralyzing her and leading her to become oracle.

batman chronicles #5

she goes back to batgirl around the n52, along with her own solo (batgirl 2011) and being sometimes batgirl sometimes oracle in batgirls 2022 which seems to be the grey area she’s still stuck in. (with her being batgirl in some of the modern nightwing stuff, but sometimes filling the oracle roll in dc and batman)

helena bertinelli: huntress, batgirl/the bat

she names herself batgirl (or more realistically The bat) during no mans land while bruce was gone. gotham needed a bat.

batman: shadow of the bat #83

however bruce does come back eventually. and lets her stick around but still doesnt fully trust her.

detective comics #732

barbara was actually unaware of it at first and has a very reasonable crash out bc ok bruce

batman: legends of the dark knight #120

she didn’t last long as batgirl, he takes her suit and gives it to cassandra in the same issue.

cassandra cain: batgirl, black bat, orphan, kasumi

takes over after helena and sticks around as batgirl until 2009

batman: legends of the dark knight #120

she mostly stays as batgirl during her run, except for a small run she had undercover in justice league: elite as an assassin named Kasumi. it falls right before war games in the timeline. during the bruce is dead era cass gives her suit to stephanie and she becomes batgirl. (same suit passed down from helena to cass to steph lmao. poor steph.)

batgirl 2009 #1

its in this era where the whole “cass in hong kong” bit starts up. shes there for a good chunk of the batgirl/red robin 2009 era.

red robin #17

at first she's there unnamed, and then taking on the black bat name during batman incorporated before she shows up again in red robin with that name.

batman incorporated #6

she doesnt stay black bat for too long, taking up the name orphan in batman and robin eternal (taking the name from david. for some reason).

batman and robin eternal #26

she was orphan for the rebirth era until she takes up the batgirl mantle again for batgirls 22 along with stephanie and barbara.

stephanie brown: spoiler, robin, batgirl

famously takes up the name spoiler to spoil her fathers crimes

detective comics #647

she stays as spoiler until around 2004 when war drums/war games happen and she takes up the robin mantle after tim retires.

robin 1993 #126

war games happens, she dies, comes back, and its revealed she didnt actually die!! leslie thompkins actually helped fake her death and she was in africa for a bit,,, but she is back to being spoiler after being fired and almost killed!

her relationship with the rest of the batfam is mostly strained during this time; tim, barbara and dick constantly telling her to get out of the line of duty however cass still entrusts her with her batgirl suit and the title. (batgirl 2009 #1)

batgirl 2009 #4

it would take her 4 issues to get her own suit tho. babs was very unsure of working with stephanie again esp with how she had died/almost died last time.

she stays batgirl until the n52, and then is back to spoiler during rebirth.

she stays as spoiler until joker war where both she and cass take the batgirl name again (batgirls 2022)

honourable mentions:

charlie gage radcliffe

birds of prey 1999 #99

a meta who called herself batgirl because "gotham needs a batgirl". she knows the identity of the birds of prey, calling them all by their first name. babs tries to keep her from being a vigilante by showing her images from stephanie's death in war games to which she listens. saying that she'll at least drop the batgirl mantle. so.

tiffany fox

batgirl: futures end

part of a ... league of batgirls? with stephanie and cassandra? while... babs is dosed with? bane venom>???? and becomes bête noire (the black beast).... ok. tbh tiffany as batgirl is the only good thing abt this comic

harley quinn

harley quinn 2000 #10

theres some contract on harley and ignoring the easier way of her just skipping town, she becomes batgirl!

if you ignore weird comments she makes towards tim its a pretty fun comic with some good interactions between tim, cass, dick and babs. esp since its with a cass pretty early in her batgirl run. its only issues 10 and 11 :P

anyway hope yall enjoyed :3

[forgotten-daydreamer]

Here it is!!

Oo, lots of new DC blogs following me (probably because of the amount of stuff I rb every day), so please allow me to shamelessly promote my own fic and when I wake up, let me be. A prequel/sequel will be posted (always on AO3) in a few days!

[who-let-a-bird-in]

* no one from the batfamily gets any sort of weapons (I’d argue even no suits,) the gorilla and each member gets let’s say 5 minutes to plan, they cannot call anyone for help, let’s assume this is a fairly plain room, maybe something they could climb but beyond that nothing much in it, they get 20 minutes to fight the gorilla

This is not would one of them be able to, 99% of them could take down a gorilla, this is who out of all of them would be the most likely to be able to, weather by outsmarting the gorilla or just like pure force

Also this goes without saying, no one actually try and fight a fucking gorilla you will either get murdered or prosecuted for animal abuse of a protected species