#lesbian seperatist

[dykeout]

[satedsaint]

Combahee River Collective on lesbian seperatism

[femmeforfun]

This Lesbian Poem by Akhaji Zakiya

from Lisa C Moore's Does Your Mama Know?: An Anthology of Black Lesbian Coming Out Stories

[stabbedthrutheeye]

one thing ive noticed is that for some reason there are a Lot more dogmatically exclusionary lesbians on tumblr than there are dogmatically exclusionary gay men.

[ourladyoftheflytrap]

this is exactly why I'm supposed to be on tumblr sabbatical because half the women on here are normal intelligent people who dont post that much about feminism and the other half of women are raging misogynists who hate men but not as much as they hate that one woman in their life who they think causes all their problems. And then they project that anger towards one specific woman onto all other women

[butchhazard]

What would be best for women out of these 3 options?

1- that they evolve to be hermaphrodites that have female sperm and impregnate other women, so they would have a uterus, eggs and a penis that produces sperm but they cannot become pregnant alone, so human genetics would continue to be diverse, as they would impregnate other women with different genes.

2 - that eggs evolve to reproduce but only in the laboratory, so human reproduction would depend on science, two women would go to the doctor and combine their eggs to create a child, so human genetics would also continue to be diverse as they would combine the genetics of 2 people

3 - women reproduce by cloning, as happens in some species, which is bad because there is no genetic diversification (but in my opinion it is better than mother nature's error called man)

im an antinatalist bc i don’t believe in bringing children into this world just so they can go through the torture of female socialization and then work at mcdonalds for 50 years but i guess this is a very hypothetical question implying a non-patriarchal culture so idk probably the way they did it in the wanderground where 2 women go into a cave and do a baby manifestation ritual

[legoyuri]

I hate that people try to define lesbainism by the disliking of men. Why do we have to focus on them when im attracted to WOMEN!!! Why define a sexuality by what it excludesss, who give a fuck if i like men too!!

Bisexual subreddit: you can be bi if you want to be bi! If you're 99% attracted to the opposite gender and 1% to the same you can be bi! If you'd never date a man irl but like hot anime boys you can be bi! If you like all men but only like 6'7" girls who were born on a Tuesday in February you can be bi!

Lesbian subreddit: if you so much as look at a man we're fucking killing you

[soup-mother]

there is literally no greater dedication to yuri and love for women than wanting more people to be women.

this is the secret militant himejoshi path that the lesbian seperatists failed to consider

[lorynna]

I hate how much radfems don't even bother to understand nuance when it comes to hetero and bi women's experiences or life choices. Like they instantly jump to them being male obsessed or pick me or weak minded or evil.

Trust me - I get you.

Some of them aren't better than ordinary male misogynists, going around and calling women cum-brained, cum-bucket or dick-lovers. I can promise, you will never find this shit on my blog. I don't care if you date a man or don't date a man, I will be here for you regardless because that is true female support.

Being hetero you don't have women as a dating option and if you're bisexual you will still suffer from the lack of lesbian representation that makes it hard for you to imagine a relationship with a female partner - additionally the dating pool of potential male partner is much bigger + more socially acceptable and the easier option if you family was for example homophobic.

It's just so hypocritical of them to pretend that they simply "don't want you to get killed" by a male partner and are therefore giving you "tough love" whenever you mention being in a het relationship or even slightly mention your male partner in a positive light. But they are not helping though, they genuinly aren't. By opposing the woman they supposedly want to help and insulting not only her but also the people she loves - let's take her boyfriend for an example - she will only be more likely to steep her feet into the ground. Tough "love" gets us nowhere. Acting like they're on some moral highground and a better person for being a seperatist also doesn't get us anywhere. It's just disgusting behavior.

I also feel like so many of those radfems fail to recognize/consider environmental influences that other women base their decisions on. I think that a large majority of radfems on tumblr are US citizens and i think we all know what's going on down there regarding women's rights.

For example, I am not a US citizen. I live in Europe but I feel like a lot of american radfems when engaging in a discourse with other radfems are often automatically assuming that the other woman is also american and therefore might be quicker to judge when they learn that she isn't seperatist for example. And I tell you, if I weren't living in a country that was allowing me to get an abortion when I needed, or was stripping me of my rights, I wouldn't engage in sexual relations with my male partner due to my own safety and if I hadn't met him years ago and was single - I wouldn't date a man either.

PICTURE

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These all are responses I got when I criticized this issue regarding radfems bashing other radfems for being in het relationships and/or even slightly mentioning their male relatives or partners in a positive light.

They come to eat you alive, simply for stating your subjective reality. It doesn't matter that you are talking about it on your own, personal blog, detached from everything else - not a reblog where you are trying to take the focus off of someone else's rant about males - not intending to argue with other radfems meaning to disregard their negative experiences - simply by stating your subjective reality.

Then they go off with their assumptions, instantly telling you that for saying such things you must be throwing all other women under the bus for your 1st priority, your owner "Jakey" who is a walking UTI dispenser and because they know your relationship so well they also add on that you treat him like he's the best thing that ever happened to you while at the same time he doesn't care about you as a person. Since they also know very well about your finances and took a good, thorough look into the fortune telling ball, they are also able to point out that he's going to be unemployed in a month's time, which will pull you down alongside him.

And there we have it again, the "tough love" and "i know i am insulting you right now but trust and believe, we only want the best for you!"

Oh, shut up. You're not helping at all with your hateful rhetorics. If we are being completely honest to each other, we both know that what you are doing is not helping women at all and might even make them abandon radical feminist theory altogether.

Because honestly it's insane projection. There is no middle ground for some radfems, no layers to non existing differentiating opinion, it's either the one or other extreme. Either you are a cum-brained incompetent slut that loves her jakey and would immediately sacrifice all her fellow women for a drop of his attention or you are a good, celibate seperatist that would never touch a man and regularly blogs about #killallmen.

They say love women more than you hate men. These radfems still haven't gotten the message.

[dddissociation]

⚠️ This identity has been reclaimed from a bigot who actively fakeclaims other systems ⚠️

Complexpunk

For anyone who has a complex identity and thinks anyone who doesn't support them can fuck off.

This includes:

• Non-traumagenic systems/Non-disordered systems

• Otherkin

• Therians

• Mspec gays/lesbians

• Gaybians

• Lesboys/Turigirls

• Xenogender

• Label and gender hoarders

• Cuspers (on the cusp between cisgender and transgender)

• Gendered agender

• Transmascfem(neu)

This does NOT include:

• Exclusionists

• Gatekeeprs

• Seperatists

• Reactionaries

08/31/23 ~ 10:40 P.M.

[shadycomputerpolice]

My advice to separatists

The woman in the above video used to be in an abusive marriage and escaped. In this video, she explains that abuse victims only leave when they themselves are ready. So straight from the horse's mouth, most efforts to get abused women get out those situations are futile.

The dynamics between men and women as a class mirror the dynamics of an abusive relationship. Just like how abuse victims leave only when they are ready to leave, women will only leave men as a class alone only when they are ready.

This is why on this blog, for as long as I can remember, I have always discouraged seperatists from trying to convince women to give up men because just like most abuse victims, they completely ignore you or they make you the villian: evil lesbian (eventhough straight seperatists exist) that is trying to steal them away from their prince charming for your own sexual benefit.

Leave these women alone, offline and online. They are not ready and to be honest, most of them will never be. Stop going on their posts to debate them, matter of fact I suggest you block the ones who are lying about the epidemic of seperatists bullying OSA women (again denying the existence of straight seperatists to create a narrative). I understand the human instinct to clear your reputation but this is Tumblr. It is important to remember that the "loss of good reputation" on here absolutely has no impact on the quality of our lives. Yes, in the short term, you will be upset but you will quickly get over it because it has no impact on your long term life.

Just like offline you can tell when an abuse victim is ready to actually leave and just needs guidance and some resources, you can also do that online. While it is definitely harder to read people's behaviours online, it is not possible. For those of you who still take Tumblr activism seriously, you can guide genuinely interested women to valuable resources.

FYI, We need to STOP assuming that just because a person is in radfem spaces, that they are smart or have critical thinking skills. Most people come to radfem spaces because of the anti-transactivism and sometimes anti-porn positions. Contrary to what transactivism would have you believe, one doesn't need to have a pHD in human biology to differentiate between human males and females. That is actually common sense that has existed for a centuries or even millenia. Just because someone knows men cannot become women doesn't make an intellectual. That is like saying a person brushing their teeth makes them an intellectual because some people don't brush their teeth. Furthermore, phD holders can know a lot in their subject area and be clueless in others [A person can be absolutely smart in one area and completely dumb in another].

Many of people on here are actually not smart and you can tell by the dumb shit they confidently say. You shouldn't waste your time arguing with dumb people, offline or online.

[lesbian-flagzz]

I wanted to make a all inclusive/alternate Lesbian flag

Introducing, the Dusk Lesbian flag!

Small explainations of the stripes and Hex codes under cut

(If you are a exclusionist/terf/lesbian seperatist/any form of gatekeeper or bigot this flag is not for you)

Lesbian Attraction: This stripe is meant to represent all ways someone may experience lesbian attraction. Romantic, sexual, queerplatonic, sensual, polyamorious and any other I didn’t mention

Sexuality: A stripe centering around lesbian sexuality

Femmes/Pride: Representing femmes and pride of being a lesbian

Community/Inclusion of all Lesbians: This stripe represents the community and unconditional inclusion of every lesbian, everyone who is a lesbian is welcomed with open arms

Trans/Nonbinary/Futch Lesbians: Centering trans/nonbinary lesbians, highlighting trans lesbians, nonbinary lesbians (no matter the gender alignment or if they are multigender or genderfluid) and futches (someone who is both butch and femme/a mix of butch and femme)

Diversity/History: This stripe is representing the many diverse ways of how you can be a lesbian (nonbinary lesbian, aspec lesbian,mspec lesbian, he/him, they/them lesbians, butch/futch/femme lesbians and many more) and the vast history of lesbians

Masc Lesbians/Butches: This stripe stands for masculine lesbians (he/him lesbians, any lesbian who may identify as a boy/masc in some way) and butches

[shychili]

sometimes i see women on the internet claiming they’re comphet lesbians when in reality they’re just bisexual women who have radfem leaning/seperatist views without realizing it. like girl thinking men are terrible human beings and awful at sex does not mean you’re a lesbian. wanting to live in a world without men does not mean you’re a lesbian either. you’re just a manhater and that’s okay

[orkbutch]

your nun au. i like it very much. if you don't mind, can you tell me more about it? like what is shadowheart's story? what is up with lae'zel? why is karlach so cute?

Absolutely, I am very eager to talk about it! This is gonna be long tho haha. tw for addiction and self-harm

Shadowheart grew up in a relatively normal, casually Catholic family, but shes always had shit going on. Clinically depressed, and she definitely has a personality disorder, probs BPD, defs not diagnosed because its the 90's and shes masking HEAVY. Even as a kid she was pretty into catholicism though, and liked Christ and his weird more-than-human self sacrificial vibes.

At 13 while in boarding school she got lured into a cult (where she was given her name). This was a mix of older girls and a few much older people outside the boarding school, all women. They were a political cult of feminist seperatists, but also had a layer of idiosyncratic spiritualism originating entirely from the cult leader Shar (real name Sharon). Edgy stuff about darkness, the night, pain and sacrifice being good. But in particular there was a focus on pursuing oblivion, and that resulted in Shadowheart doing some very destructive substances at a very young age, and learning how effective numbness was when coping with being a depressed teenager with BPD. She realised she was a lesbian while in this group, and that wasn't great because Shar was Not chill about that at all. These were radical second wave feminists that considered sex inherently reproductive of patriarchal power dynamics, and the cult was firmly asexual; lesbians were considered gender traitors and particularly looked down on. (Transgender people were not even acknowledged; truly old school r*dfems.) Her attraction to women is what made her question things most throughout her time there, but she was very young and impressionable; she wouldn't start to really firmly question things until she was 16.

She was, through all of this, a big fan of Christ; in fact some of the cult's ideology kinda deepend her concept of Christ and martyrdom, which she admired greatly. Self sacrifice was The Ultimate Virtue to her; a loving masochism, which really spoke to her (and her self-harming tendencies).

She escaped at 17 and didn't return home; she immediately became a novitiate within an Irish-Catholic cloister. This would have been in the early 80's. She dove head first into being a dedicated cloistered nun; it wasn't that different from her time in Shar's group except a lot more sober. When she took her vows and became a full fledged nun, she descended further into worship and over her 10 years there, she became more and more... Medieval with it.

This was a Problem, because this was the late 80's moving into the early 90's in the UK - not only was Vatican II well and truly instilled in the practices of all cloisters, but feminism had been kicking around for a while now and had only gotten more popular. Nuns being hidden away from the world, participating in shame circles and self flagellating was well and truly Over and were banned practices. But Shadowheart researched older methods of worship from deeply devoted cloistered nuns and dove in, because they felt meaningful, helped her cope and they made her feel special to Christ.

Something that had a big impact on her was her duties as a volunteer nun overlapping with the AIDS crisis. She found that she had to consistently fight her sisters and abbess to be allowed to assist people with HIV. This forced her to contend with her queerness, the morality of her relationship to other gay people. That prompted her to start exploring lesbianism and queer community secretly, which tempered her obsessive cloistered nun tendencies; she still self flagellated and prized self sacrifice, but her shame was being challenged, and she had felt how much she wanted diverse, queer community.

Her and Lae'zel started hooking up when she was 25; it started as moments of desperate desire for relief and comfort, but became a little more than that as time went on. (It fucked with Lae'zel A Lot.) Shadowheart was finally kicked out at 27 when not only was she caught with another nun (not Lae'zel), the extent of her self-harm was seen on her body. She became too much of a liability for the cloister. Very soon after that, Karlach appeared in her apartment.

I'll expand on Lae'zel in a reblog >:)

[runthepockets]

what. is a baddael? <- confused eastern european

Some Tumblr ideaology that centers trans women (fine) under the belief that transmisogyny is underdiscussed (true) because 1)other trans people, namely trans men, are taking up too much space (incorrect). Trans men are their oppressors, and they get away with it and 2) the only people that trans women can be safe around is other trans women (red flag).

It's basically a cult mentality built on an understandable struggle but enacted in really stupid ways, just more stupid battle of the sexes shit but for trans people this time. I agree that a lot of trans men gleefully take part in transmisogyny and often get away with it, but I'm pretty sure that's been true of men and women for ages, and I don't see political lesbians or female seperatists getting any further or more convincing in their goals, so this shit is no different to me.

[chaoticwitchinthebasement]

It is okay to not call yourself a radfem, if you're interested in any form of seperatism among women. So if a lesbian "radfem" ( like @girlypopz123 or any other person) wants to be seperatist and not associate with bisexual women, it's fine to just call yourself a lesbian feminist