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Yes oh. Naija girls repping.
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I noticed the cherry picking too. It is because if they acknowledge Lin Yu Ting's situation as well, then all the "this is just hatred of GNC arab women" arguments and attempted guilt tripping will fall flat.
Not to be an elder, I remember exactly the same tactics used in the Caster Semanya situation and Caster turned out to be a male so I am not falling for it.
It doesn't matter how many multisyllabic words of Greek origin people use in their arguments, either the athletes conduct a DNA test and make the test results publicly available or the justifiable sceptism around their sex will continue. That is it, all these didactic posts are not proof of anything.
Also, notice op isn't even trying to disprove the male with DSD allegations, their point is there are more important things that feminists should focus on as if feminists cannot care about multiple issues at once.
one last word on this. it is very interesting to me that it is imane khelif (an allegedly intersex algerian person with an androgynous physique) who has been chosen by radfems to give a face to the problem of sexism at the olympics and not steven van de velde, the athlete convicted of raping a child, not "valentina" petrillo, the actual transwoman competing at the female paralympics, not manizha talash, the female afghan athlete who was eliminated from the competition for wearing a cape that said "free afghan women", not vinesh phogat, the female indian athlete who was excluded from the competition because she was 100g overweight as she was about to win a gold medal (a decision that may have been politically motivated considering phogat has been very vocal and active protesting sexual violence in indian society), not the inclusion of israeli players who represent a country that commits mass rapes on palestinian women.
When you bring that up the counter-argument is always "yes but radfems are opposed to the inclusion of khelif and at the same time they denounce these other forms of sexism, we can care about multiple issues at once" except that this is absolutely not the case here, feminists have devoted much, much more time, attention and conversation to khelif than to any other people i've mentioned here, they have protested much more against khelif than against the men or in support of the women I have listed. This shows that radfems (in general) have made the choice to give a greater priority to khelif than to these other questions, and this shows that their priorities really speak to white middle class women much more than they do disabled women, woc, third world and working class women.
Because even if khelif had been a biological male identifying as a woman (which isn't the case)... none of this warrants focusing so much on her. all the other topics i've mentioned here have only been discussed from time to time at best (for van de velde and petrillo) and a couple of times before everyone decided to collectively move on at worst (for talash and phogat). Of course fair play for women is important but it shouldn't obliterate every other conversation to be had about male violence, especially male violence occuring in third world countries in large part because of western imperialism (in the cases of afghanistan, india and palestine)
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Taking beauty advice from an ugly man makes no sense. If you are going to be vain, at least be vain in your vanity.
I find it annoying that 54 year old male medical doctor that looks like a dried grape or a botoxed lumpfish is talking about how to reduce/reverse aging and he is only using pictures of women and talking to "ladies".
But also women eat it up and give him fame and attention.
Many aspects of wider sociatal misogyny are like this.
It is disrespectful as hell but 30 000 women are like "🤩yes? I'm listening".
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Yes oh. Naija girls repping.
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So Kylian Mbappe, a man who has consistently and vehemently stated that Cristiano Ronaldo is his role model and is close friends with Achraf Hakimi, another footballer accused of rape, is been investigated for rape and the people are shocked because...reasons
It is almost like birds of a feather flock together
Reminder no 24689976423578283377... that you do not know these men especially someone like Kylian Mbappe whose public image has been crafted by some very experienced, well paid PR professionals.
You cannot put rape past any man especially men who are chummy with accused rapists.
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The previous commenters have done an excellent job responding to op but I am going to go on a tangent.
Is Imane Khelif considered a dark skinned Arab? I know dark skinned is culturally and racially relative but as a black African, seeing other races definition of dark skinned or dark is amusing and surprising.
I think majority of radfems; especially white radfems need to realize that woman of colour do not experience patriarchy the same as you do.
How can Imane Khelif and impoverished Algerian woman have the funds to possibly get a sex change and falsify her birth certificate into saying she is a biological female?
Beacuse she didn’t. She is a woman.
The world just saw a talented arab woman with a big nose and dark skin. Who doesn’t fit the patriarchal view of how a woman should present herself and automatically labeled her as a man.
If Angela Carini had gone up there and punched Imane and Imane accused her of being a man. People would have probably turned against Imane and called her a transphobic bigot.
In patriarchys eyes Angela Carini is white and feminine and therefore more of a woman then Imane.
Troons have distorted so much of what it means to be a woman that a woman with naturally high testosterone is sent to the gallows.
If Micheal Pleps the 6’4, hyperjointed man with twice the lung capacity of the average person. A man built to swim is allowed to compete.
Then I have no problem that Imane Khelif a woman with high levels of testosterone is built to fight.
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Them: If there were no men, who would protect women from the wild animals?
Women with the wild animals 👇🏽
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Them: He could be my son.
Me: All rapists are somebody's son. What about you or your progeny makes you believe your son is incapable of such.
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Thou shall not invoke the name of third world feminists in vain.
Firstly, women from "third world" countries participate in the Olympics and the inclusion of males with DSDs in female categories will also affect them so why is op trying to suggest the issue of males in female categories doesn't or wouldn't affect female athletes from third world countries? The Olympics is not an all white women event guys, I know you want to stick to whitey but common, get better material.
Secondly, so women should not complain about injustices that they are aware of and possibly have some influence over because women and girls in another country have it worse? Nevermind that those women might not have any power or influence to stop the injustices in the other country?
Again, feminism is for all women doesn't mean all feminists have to invest time and energy into all sex based injustices going on globally because it is frankly impossible. Feminist action and activism will always be limited by geography. Individual feminists and feminist organisations cannot know about or fight against all the sex based injustices around the world nor should they be expected to. Feminists should target their attention where they have power or influence to stop sexism. I would like to add that feminists not being aware or even caring about what is happening in another country in a different continent is not a moral failing or character flaw.
Also, will women not complaining about their minor problems help alleviate the suffering of women and girls who have it worse or help resolve the major injustices that are happening in another country?
Guys, there is no spell to change a person's sex. it doesn't matter how many times you repeat "Imane is female" in front of a mirror like it is a spell, it won't change Imane's sex. You all with your holier than thou attitude intentionally spreading inaccurate information would be hilarious if it wasn't so disgustingly hypocritical.
Lastly, some of you don't know or care to know how sports governance works so to clarify, the Dutch Volleyball Federation is responsible for deciding who represents them as long as the athletes meets all current existing requirements neither the IOC nor FIVB can ban them and if they do, the athlete can file a complaint and a lengthy arbitration process will be started. So to answer the question about why there was more outrage about the boxing situation, because the IOC had or has actual power over that situation while it has no power over the Dutch pig's situation. So why would people who understand how sports work complain to an institution who has no authority over a situation?
one last word on this. it is very interesting to me that it is imane khelif (an allegedly intersex algerian person with an androgynous physique) who has been chosen by radfems to give a face to the problem of sexism at the olympics and not steven van de velde, the athlete convicted of raping a child, not "valentina" petrillo, the actual transwoman competing at the female paralympics, not manizha talash, the female afghan athlete who was eliminated from the competition for wearing a cape that said "free afghan women", not vinesh phogat, the female indian athlete who was excluded from the competition because she was 100g overweight as she was about to win a gold medal (a decision that may have been politically motivated considering phogat has been very vocal and active protesting sexual violence in indian society), not the inclusion of israeli players who represent a country that commits mass rapes on palestinian women.
When you bring that up the counter-argument is always "yes but radfems are opposed to the inclusion of khelif and at the same time they denounce these other forms of sexism, we can care about multiple issues at once" except that this is absolutely not the case here, feminists have devoted much, much more time, attention and conversation to khelif than to any other people i've mentioned here, they have protested much more against khelif than against the men or in support of the women I have listed. This shows that radfems (in general) have made the choice to give a greater priority to khelif than to these other questions, and this shows that their priorities really speak to white middle class women much more than they do disabled women, woc, third world and working class women.
Because even if khelif had been a biological male identifying as a woman (which isn't the case)... none of this warrants focusing so much on her. all the other topics i've mentioned here have only been discussed from time to time at best (for van de velde and petrillo) and a couple of times before everyone decided to collectively move on at worst (for talash and phogat). Of course fair play for women is important but it shouldn't obliterate every other conversation to be had about male violence, especially male violence occuring in third world countries in large part because of western imperialism (in the cases of afghanistan, india and palestine)
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In an advocacy course that I took for work, the instructor emphasised that laws/policies are weapons that can be used for good or evil depending on who is wielding it. So while developing laws/policies, it is necessary to ask the following questions
How can this law/policy be abused by people with harmful intentions?
Is there a way to prevent this law/policy from being abused?
Many advocates naively ignore the fact that laws apply to both good people and bad people so they advocate for laws/policies that come back to bite them in the ass. Maybe they fall for the ultra identity politics where they erroneously believe everybody from their camp is good (which is Kindergarten level thinking btw) but laws/policies also apply to people who are not from your camp.
Before you lend your support to any cause, always remember that laws/policies don't discriminate based on character and ask yourself the questions above.
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"Because hot and cold are relative, temperature measurements are irrelevant, reductive and even harmful."
The above is basically the transgender ideology. Because there are people who do not adhere to the sex roles (gender), sex (biological characteristic) is garbage.
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I try not to post about male depravity on my blog because water is wet but I have seen a lot of women genuinely shocked by the Gisele case as they have never heard of anything like that but there was a similar case in Singapore.
In that case, it was a group of men "wife swapping" their drugged wives. Below is a link to a true crime video that explains the case.
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Sadists are always going to find new and more exciting (to them) ways to abuse their victims.
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Download this easy DIY clothing repair guide (only 10 pages) from Uni of Kentucky
link to PDF
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Honestly, I feel that women trying to defend their personal boundaries with academic research and peer reviewed journals when a simple "eww gross" will suffice is female socialisation.
You are not advocating for public policy, you shouldn't have to debate your personal boundaries like it is public policy.
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