#jiang fengmien

[angstymdzsthoughts]

Hi! This isn't very angsty but I have had this thought living in my brain for MONTHS. What if Zidian had a curse or something placed on it that when used against an innocent would either backfire or abandon its holder? Like, when Yu Ziyuan used Zidian against Wei Wuxian Zidian either lashed back at her or attached itself to Wei Wuxian.

JFM totally put the curse on zidian after he found JC and JYL trying to bandage up little WWXs back

[rayan12sworld]

💠💙In Defence of Murder

By:WhiteWitchDark

Summary:

In an act of unrivalled stupidity, a group of cultivators, led by the Lan and Jiang sects attack Hanguang-Jun and Lan Sizhui in the hope grief will give them a shot at the Yilling Louzu. Spoiler alert: it doesn't.

Desperate to stop the demonic cultivator destroying their world in (well-deserved) revenge, Nie Huaisang suggests time travel as a way to fix everything. He promptly discovers that the Yilling Louzu is not willing to do the work for him.

Chapter:6/6

Words:18,194

Status:completed

He pulled two more letter from his sleeve, directing the servant to take the first one to Lan Xichen, “Lan Wangji also formally secedes from GusuLan, and refuses further contact from his former sect.” “No, Wangji…” Lan Xichen murmured in dismay. The second was given to Jiang Fengmien, “Wei Wuxian is grateful for everything the Jiang have done for him, but he secedes from the sect and considers any debt repaid by the scars of Zidian he will carry to the end of his life.” Everyone at the table froze.

[valaria69]

Thinking of a new story for MDZS

I have so many ideas running in my head and it doesn't help that I am ADHD. My thought for the day though is a story that covers these plot points. There are so many I won't list them all but the 3 listed are the first ones I will be working on.

How does a ex-head disciple and right hand of a sect/clan heir/leader and a disciple of a immortal die on a night hunt? Did they not get all the information? (not likely) Did they over estimate their abilities? (maybe but doubtful) Were they setup (no one knows but possible)

How is it possible that everyone knew where Wei Ying's parents died and that it was a night hunt yet for 4 or more years no one could find their young son? How is it possible that after so many years that someone could just think oh I have never seen the child of these people BUT yeah there is a dirty little street rat lets ask him if his name is Wei Ying? Considering Wei Ying stayed in Yiling all those years I am convinced Jiang Fengmien knew exactly where he was the whole time.

How does a man of that time period allow his wife to do the things she does and still keep his leadership status? This woman refused to take the Jiang name (which would have never been allowed if only from pressure from the elders) but also treats the Jiang as if they are below her. Trashing the disciples etc..

[admirableadmiranda]

So, I read an answer you have given to another question about WWX owing the Jiang Clan debts and you mentioned Changse-Sanren having a debt owed to her by Lan Queen, Jiang Changze and Jiang Fengmien. And it brought up a question I had. In the Xuanwu of Slaughter when WWX is distracting the beast so the other Sect Heirs can escape and Su She pulls his shit and LWJ jumps in to help WWX and gets caught in the mouth. WWX jumps in to save him (bless these chaotic gays😮‍💨) Would it not be reasonable then to assume that the Lan Clan owes WWX a debt for saving LWJ, but the other Clans/Sects do as well for saving their heirs lives? And IF they do, how can the Clan/Sects that claim to be 'righteous' and 'honorable' move against WWX later? Is it all just hypocrisy? Or is there more going on here that a common western reader wouldn't understand?

Hi anon! I will do my best to answer your question clearly as we are moving beyond things I know super clearly.

So basically with life debts is that they are owed from a person to a person. Jiang Fengmian owes Cangse-sanren a life debt, so this is why him taking in her son would be closest to repaying it. Jiang Cheng owes Wen Ning and Wen Qing a life debt, which is why he should owe it to them to help and it speaks poorly of him that he doesn’t. Given what goes on during the Xuanwu cave, the debt would not be owed by the whole Lan Clan, but just Lan Wangji to Wei Wuxian, with the caveat being that a life debt can be repaid for example by taking in their child, which is somewhat what we get with A-Yuan, BUT!!!!

You say even yourself in your question that they save each other multiple times, so you’ve sort of got your own answer there. They have no debt to each other both because they are good people who would do this regardless and because they are mutually saving each other at the same time. A life debt is usually sprung when someone who isn’t in the same situation comes in to help at personal cost anyway. This is why the one between Wei Wuxian, Jiang Cheng and the Wen Siblings exists; Wen Ning was not involved and chose to get involved to save them. Lan Wangji and Wei Wuxian were both trapped in the cave, so there’s no debt, only an alliance.

As for how the Lan could turn on him at the siege? It is largely hypocrisy, a poorly translated motto (@jiangwanyinscatmom please help me I have forgotten exactly what the Gusu motto actually means) and (in my opinion extrapolated from hints in the text and an interview with MXTX where she says what happened at Wen Ning’s execution was not an accident) the manipulation of the Jin in order to get them at a position where they would move against him. I firmly don’t believe it’s coincidence that when Wen Ning went berserk at his execution that him mostly killing the Lan and Nie that were there despite the lion’s share of events caused to him were caused by the Jin, and the fact that they already had Xue Yang who Wei Wuxian compares the needles in Wen Ning’s head and Song Lan’s head and verifies that they are the same, it’s not a difficult theory to justify. The Lan do give into mob justice, but I do believe they were dragged in by Jin manipulation to get all four great clans on their side for the siege.

That does not make what they did excusable, but it’s certainly not a chain of events that I see easily repeating especially given what happens in MDZS proper. The fallout of Lan Xichen and Jin Guangyao’s sworn brotherhood will definitely have an impact on the clan that will likely shake out for the better in the future.

As for whether the other clans owe Wei Wuxian for saving their heirs’ lives? I mean probably, but it’s hard to say. Again, they were all trapped in the same situation, Wei Wuxian included. But incurring a life debt isn’t just as easy as helping put someone in trouble. You have to do more than just be there at the right time.

Also Lan Wangji would never want Wei Wuxian to feel like he’s holding some kind of debt over him. :P he gets very mad about that.

[mxtxfanatic]

I would like to add an amendment to this post:

I do think there is evidence that Yu Ziyuan may have liked or even loved Jiang Fengmian. She gets visibly upset at the mention of not being able to see Jiang Fengmien one last time before what she assuredly knows will be her death:

Jiang Cheng shouted, “Mom, Father isn’t back yet. If anything happens can’t we manage through it together first?!” Hearing him mention Jiang FengMian, for a split second, Madam Yu’s eyes seemed to turn red. Immediately, she cursed with a loud voice, “So what if he’s not coming back? Can’t I do anything without him?!”

—Chapt. 58: Poisons, exr

And she also at some point secretly had Zidian recognize Jiang Fengmian as master:

As he spoke, he touched Zidian with his hand. However, just as he came into contact with it, Zidian retracted obediently. It immediately turned into a ring and wrapped itself around one of his fingers. Jiang FengMian froze at once. Zidian was Yu ZiYuan’s best weapon. Yu ZiYuan’s intention was its most important command. Zidian could recognize multiple masters, but there was an order. Madam Yu was undoubtedly the primary master of Zidian. Her command was to tie Jiang Cheng up until he was safe, which was why even though Jiang Cheng was also its master, he couldn’t struggle out of its constraint. Nobody knew when, but Jiang FengMian had been recognized as the secondary master of Zidian. In front of him, Zidian determined them to be safe, and thus it loosened. But Madam Yu had never said that she let Zidian recognize Jiang FengMian as its master as well.

Therefore, one could make the argument that perhaps Yu Ziyuan did love her husband. But whether she liked him from the beginning of their acquaintanceship or began to like him sometime during their marriage is unclear. What is still clear is that regardless of when this liking began or how intense one wants to argue it was, it was never stronger than her insecurities towards Cangse Sanren, her sense of entitlement over the Madam Jiang position, and her utter disdain for the Jiang Clan precepts and way of life. Despite any affection she may have held for her husband, she fully and actively spent 20+ years imploding her own marriage and family in order to assuage her own feelings of inadequacy towards a woman who had been dead for almost half of that time.

That is all.

You know, I don’t think I’ve ever written a meta on Madam Yu/Yu Ziyuan before? 🤔 Let’s change that!

Yu Ziyuan is a petty ass spiteful bitch who never loved Jiang Fengmian, showed no care for her only daughter Jiang Yanli, and cared for her only son Jiang Cheng only insomuch as he was a reflection of herself. There is not a singular nice thing she has to say to or about Jiang Yanli in the text, not even on the eve of her death. Towards Jiang Cheng, her “defenses” of him are all backhanded comments on how he isn’t better than the son of the woman she, herself, is jealous of, that he is unlikeable because he is her son, and that even his own father doesn’t want him. Jiang Cheng already feels unloved by his father from Yu Ziyuan’s perpetual harping before Wei Wuxian is brought back from Yiling, so this insecurity cannot be laid at his feet. On top of that example, people also like to claim that Jiang Fengmian was a “bad father” to Jiang Cheng because Jiang Cheng only remembers (which is already suspect because jc usually only conveniently remembers things that make him a victim) his father holding him a handful of times, but as for his mother? The only time he remembers her hugging (and kissing) him is when she knows she was about to die. He is 17 and has never been hugged by his mother in living memory. But she loves him (allegedly).

As for her (alleged) love and pining for Jiang Fengmian:

Of course, she was Jiang FengMian’s wife, and used to cultivate with him as well. Naturally, she should be called Madam Jiang. But, for some reason, everyone had always called her Madam Yu. Some people guessed that it was because she didn’t want to take on her husband’s surname due to her assertive personality.

…

Madam Yu came from the prominent Even after she married Jiang FengMian, she had always been out on night-hunts, not overly fond of staying at the Jiang Sect’s Lotus Pier. On top of that, where she lived at Lotus Pier was different from where Jiang FengMian did. She had her own area, where only she and a few of the family members she’d brought from the Yu Sect lived.

—Chapt. 51: Courage, exr

She refuses to be known as the Madam of the Jiang Clan. She refuses to integrate her people into her husband’s home. She refuses to stay in the same place as her husband in their home. She refuses to even be in their home except to prepare for nighthunts. And when she’s home, she only picks fights, claims that she’s the only one who sees what’s “really” happening but nobody listens because they don’t like her or what she has to say, then leaves again. This is not a woman that cares about the clan she married in to. This isn’t even a woman that cares about her immediate family. So why is she even here?

This culminates into the “petty ass bitch” part:

The entirety of the cultivation world knew that third lady Yu had cultivated together with Jiang FengMian when they were young. Jiang FengMian’s character was gentle, yet Yu ZiYuan’s personality was harsh. The two didn’t share too many interactions. Thus, although their backgrounds matched, nobody associated the two as a pair. Later, ZangSe SanRen came from the mountains, passed by Yunmeng, and happened to become friends with Jiang FengMian. They had even night-hunted together on multiple occasions. Both thought highly of each other. People supposed that it was very likely for ZangSe SanRen to become the next mistress of Lotus Pier.

However, soon afterward, the MeishanYu Sect proposed an alliance through marriage to the YunmengJiang Sect.

—Chapt. 56: Poisons, exr

Jiang Fengmian and Yu Ziyuan knew each since they were young and had many interactions, but they were incompatible because of Yu Ziyuan’s volatile personality. Nobody considered them a pair despite being a perfect match on paper. Neither of them wanted marriage; neither clan proposed or pushed it. However, the moment another woman appears that is universally loved and is suspected to be made into the new Madam Jiang, suddenly MeishanYu wants to pressure Jiang Fengmian into this ill-fated marriage? The story makes it clear that the proposal only came into existence after Cangse Sanren became a rumored option��not during any of the other times Jiang Fengmian and Yu Ziyuan had met and parted without a care, not when Cangse Sanren first descended—while only Jiang Fengmian opposed the marriage. And who does Yu Ziyuan have a massive inferiority complex to, so much so that she’s willing to abuse the orphaned son of the woman to make him indebted to her family? Cangse Sanren.

Yu Ziyuan wanted to marry Jiang Fengmian not out of care or love but out of a petty desire to “prove” that the position of Madam Jiang was hers, only. Even if it meant consigning herself and another person to a loveless, violent marriage. From beginning to end, Yu Ziyuan was a person obsessed with her reputation and what she felt was “owed” to her as the daughter of cultivation clan leaders, and this led to the destruction of herself and her family.

Anyways, that’s all, folks!

[somepinkthing]

AU where xiao xingchen catches wind of cangse sanren's death and decides to go look for her child and see what he can do for him. It works out since he had been thinking of striking out on his own for a while now, this might just be the push he needed. Plus doesn't he owe her at least that? He finds wei ying before jiang fengmian and... well he can't just leave him there can he? The poor thing is half starved to death! Basically a XXC (and song lan by proxy) raises WWX fic

[professorsparklepants]

So many aus where Wei Wuxian gets adopted by other families... Where's my au where the Jiang sibs have better parents

[bingleycharles]

Part 2 - The Sects and Clans: The Yunmeng Jiang Sect

The Yunmeng Jiang Sect (云梦江氏, Yúnmèng Jiāng Shì) - a cultivational sect located in Yunmeng's Lotus Pier.

Motif - The nine petal lotus

Motto - Attempt the impossible

Uniform Colors - Purple

Side Note: In The Untamed, you can always deduce a certain amount of information about a Sect from their general location. For example, the Lotus Pier is located near (and surrounded by) a vast body of water. As a result, although the Jiang Disciples practice ‘standard’ cultivation, they are exceptionally skilled at swimming, and have a great deal of experience in dealing with water ghouls, and other water-related mythical disturbances. 

Sect Members

Jiang Fengmian (江枫眠, Jiāng Fēngmián) - Yunmeng Jiang Sect Leader and the father of Jiang Cheng and Jiang Yanli

Yu Ziyuan (虞紫鸢, Yú Zǐyuān) aslo known as Madam Yu (虞夫人, Yú fūrén) and the Violet Spider (紫蜘蛛, Zǐ Zhīzhū) - the wife of Jiang Fengmian, and the mother of Jiang Cheng and Jiang Yanli

Side note: Yu Ziyian and Jiang Fengmian are a result of an arranged marriage. She did not take Jiang Fengmian’s name, and they lived in separate parts of Lotus Pier. I am only saying this so people do not misunderstand, and assume the cold nature of their relationship is some type of a norm.

Jiang Yanli (江厌离, Jiāng Yànlí) is the elder sister of Jiang Cheng and the elder sworn sister of Wei Wuxian

Jiang Cheng (江澄 Jiāng Chéng), courtesy name Jiang Wanyin (江晚吟 Jiāng Wǎnyín), title Sandu Shengshou (三毒圣手 Sāndú Shèngshǒu) - the son of Jiang Fengmien and Madame Yu, younger brother to Jiang Yanli, the younger sworn brother to Wei Wuxian, and the future leader of the Yunmeng Jiang Sect

Side note: Notice the above characters names all start with the sect name Jiang. This is a family name, and means that they are all the same clan. So even though Yunmeng Jiang Sect has many disciples, only those with family name Jiang are also a part of the clan. 

Wei Ying (魏婴 Wèi Yīng), courtesy name Wei Wuxian (魏无羡, Wèi Wúxiàn), title, the Yiling Patriarch (夷陵老祖, Yílíng Lǎozǔ) - son of Jiang Fengmian’s servant Wei Changze and a rogue cultivator Cangse Sanren. An adopted son of Jiang Fengmian, sworn brother to Jiang Cheng and Jiang Yanli. 

Side Note: Notice that Wei Wuxian’s name starts with his father’s family name Wei. Although Wei Wuxian is a senior disciple of the Yunmeng Jiang Sect, he does not carry the clan name. In other words, one’s status and success as a disciple in any Sect is not dependent on belonging to the clan, but on their cultivation ability. 

The Yunmeng Jiang Sect Motif

[angstymdzsthoughts]

Impostor!Au where Jiang Cheng is the only one to figure out that Madam Yu and Jiang Fengmian are impostors. When they save the original MY and JFM, people ask him how he'd known then he'd say, "They were worried about me. They acted like they cared about me, JYL, and WWX. They were NICE." (Lowkey inspired by that one Supernatural scene) ain't that a trip? That literal Impostors were better parents to the three of them than the original people who "raised" them?

Oof

[angstymdzsthoughts]

The Wen conflict never happens. Instead, when JFM decides to retire, he runs away with a merchant’s daughter from the town he’s been having an affair with for years. He let the CSSR rumors remain to protect her from YZY. Back at Lotus Pier, YZY and the kids all have to live with this info and being the laughingstocks of the cultivation world.

Watch YZY hunt her ex husband for sport

[angstymdzsthoughts]

after jiang yanli and jin zixuan's engagement falls a part, jiang fengmian thinks about who he wants his daughter to marry and brings up the idea of wei wuxian and jiang yanli getting married. in his eyes this is a great match, as it means all of them can stay in lotus pier (so yanli doesn't have to move away to be with her husband's family) & he trusts wei wuxian to take care of yanli, but everybody else is horrified. yu ziyuan hates the idea of actually having to be related to wei wuxian even in an in-law capacity, the jiang sibling trio are horrified because they all view each other as siblings, and its a blow to wei wuxian because he always thought of the jiang family as his family, but this is sort of proof that jiang fengmian doesn't really think the same way (otherwise he wouldn't want wei ying to marry his daughter). since everyone hates the idea so much, jiang fengmian concedes that it wasn't a good idea, but even the fact that mentioned it permanently ruins everybody's family relationship with him and makes wei wuxian feel like he is viewed as an outsider.

maybe also as a consequence to this, wei wuxian starts acting more distant from jiang yanli because he is afraid of how other people view their relationship now (he has always viewed her as an older sister, and while he knew that some people didn't understand that, in the past he didn't care because he didn't care what others thought in the distant, but now he knows even someone as close as jiang fengmian can misinterpret that relationship, and he doesn't want anybody to try to misinterpret it again) and jiang yanli is heartbroken because she also loves wei wuxian as a brother and hates how distant he's being, but she understands that it's not really his fault and that this is just a bad situation

Oh I like this one. JFM wants WWX to be his son in law but all the siblings are like isnt he Already Your Son?!?

[angstymdzsthoughts]

The old Jiang sect leader, JFM's father, rather liked prostitutes. It's the main reason JFM doesn't have a whole flock of siblings and half-siblings running around Lotus Pier (and seriously, as a Chinese person, I'm genuinely amazed at the lack of concubines with all the unhappy marriages in MDZS).

CSSR is the only half-sibling JFM is ever able to track down. Oh, sure, he had a brief, slight crush on her during his stint in CR, then they both worked out her paternity (her mother was - a kept woman, on retainer, so to speak) and disgust rather killed any other thoughts. To make up for his mingled disgust and guilt at her ending up in the streets after her mother's death, rather than being taken to Lotus Pier like a child of Sect Leader Jiang should have been, JFM ends up doting on her, in a strange sort of way - like an older brother should, he thinks.

They both swear themselves to secrecy on CSSR's true lineage. The mix of stigma at being the daughter of a prostitute (rather than an anonymous street child) and inevitable dragging into the power games of the high and mighty that would come with revealing CSSR's parentage is not something either of them want.

Yeah well, this comes off VERY differently to the outside world. JFM buying CSSR meals, whatever stupid shit caught her eye at the market, defending her against the other disciples (not that she needs it), and going along with her antics reads - very strangely - in a society with extremely strict separation of men and women, and without the context of knowing they're half-siblings.

JFM ignores this and happily sees her marry WCZ. All is right in the world when little Wei Ying (did she seriously name her son Baby Wei? what did he expect out of his goblin sister, honestly) is born, and when he hears word of their deaths - he's his jiufu. Since WCZ doesn't have family that he knows of, it's JFM's job to take in Wei Ying. He can't have him call him jiufu, as is proper - the more generic shushu is the closest he can get - but at least his nephew is where he should be, under his care.

Unfortunately, this again reads somewhat strangely with the rumours of his love of CSSR - rumours which he never fucking bothered to refute, rumours which are coming to bite him in the ass now. And he can't say anything, can't say the five words 她是我的妹妹/she is my (little) sister that would shut the fucking ridiculous gossip up. And from his own wife, no less.

For something like a decade, he gets to hear endless rumours of him sleeping with - though he is the only one alive who knows it - his own half-sister and siring his nephew on her, repeated by everyone, including his wife throwing those accusations in his face. And he - he can't say anything, because he and CSSR swore themselves to secrecy to protect her. Even if the accusations hurt her son, even if it hurts him. The oath taken to protect her has now turned on him and her son.

But it would still probably be less painful than exposing the truth and then bringing WWX into the mess. As JFM's blood nephew, he would have far higher expectations of him, a harder time escaping the politics of the main sect families than if he was just the son of a favoured servant - politics he is utterly unsuited for, that will suck his joyful soul dry and eat him alive. And damn it, JFM will at least spare his nephew that, if he can.

JFM grits his teeth around the truth, and calls for a servant to bring some wine to his study. It's been a long day of hearing his wife scream at him about supposedly fucking his own sister.

You ever just wanna beat JFM over the head and scream Communication! Is! Key! To! A! Healthy! Relationship!

[angstymdzsthoughts]

Fem!WWX au, where JFM gets her engaged to JC as an excuse to attach her to LP while she comes of age. YZY is desperate to get her out of LP not because she hates her, but because she sees the way that her husband looks at the 15yo WWX with lust, who would’ve thought that her husband was like that pig JGS? When WWX goes to gusu and starts liking LWJ, she grabs the chance to marry her before the lectures even finish, and if JFM dies some time after the wedding nobody will suspect it was his wife.

"You know your mother and I met when she was just a few years older then you are now," Jiang Fengmian said with a smile. From a distance someone would think the way he pats Wei Wuxian's head was parental affection, but Wei Wuxian is close enough to see the intensity in his eyes, the way his hand lingered, how his fingers dug into her hair enough to pull. She is careful not to flinch. She doesn't want him to know she's uncomfortable, doesn't want him to think he should move whatever plans he has for her up before she becomes frightened and runs.

"I swear, you look more and more like her every year," he says, not for the first time. Wei Wuxian is fifteen. Jiang Fengmian met her mother when she was nineteen. Wei Wuxian has four years. Probably less.

Yu Ziyuan watches from a distance and she burns with disgust (Not jealousy. Never jealousy for a literal child who should never receive such looks from a man who raised her). She sees the look in her husband's eyes when he looks at his young ward- the fever of obsession, the intensity of his desire growing every passing day. She has four years to find a match for Wei Wuxian. The further away from Lotus Pier the better.

It's not as easy as throwing Wei Wuxian at the second son of a minor sect. The match has to be so much better then her current one that it won't be an insult to Jiang Cheng and their clan. It has to be someone who would be willing to fight for her despite her arranged engagement. The Lan clan have a history of being romantics.

She insists that Wei Wuxian go to the Lan Sects lectures with Jiang Cheng. She argues that it is her duty as head deciple. She demands to know why her husband doesn't want Wei Wuxian to go and he backs down and bends to her will.

The night before they leave she visits Wei Wuxian's room. "You will do everything in your power to find a husband among the Lan clan," Yu Ziyuan orders her. "The higher in status, the better. Do you understand, girl?" Wei Wuxian, for all the love she has for her home and her family, knows she will never be completely safe in Lotus Pier. She agrees. Yu Ziyuan gives her an approving look. "It would be best," she continues in a tone that isn't as harsh as normal. "if we have a reason to rush the marriage."

Three months later they receive an urgent letter from Lan Qiren demanding they come to the Cloud Recesses. Yu Ziyuan hides how pleased she is when he tells them that Wei Wuxian had been caught in his younger nephews bed with evidence of debauchery on her thighs. Jiang Fengmian is near apoplectic with rage and needs to leave the room for some air. Once her husband steps out Yu Ziyuan pushes for marriage. After all, the Second Jade of Lan has so clearly ruined their head deciple for marriage to anyone else. Lan Qiren is visibly pained when he agrees.

Later, Yu Ziyuan goes to where Wei Wuxian has been kneeling all day as a part of her punishment. She had no doubt that both she and Lan Wangji had recieved brutal beatings after being discovered and would likely be put in seclusion for months. Perhaps just until they find out if Wei Wuxian is pregnant or maybe until the day of their wedding. She leans in and whispers "You did well." It is without a doubt the highest praise she has ever given the girl.

Wei Wuxian's smile is a small, tired thing. She has tarnished both her and Lan Wangji's reputations with this. She doubts the Lans will ever forgive her for ruining their younger jade. Lan Wangji may hold resentment against her for the rest of their lives for seducing him. But she will be able to sleep at night without jumping at every sound and setting up dozens of traps and locking barriers in her room in fear of her uncle trying to visit her. It will be worth it.

[angstymdzsthoughts]

In canon wcz and cssr tell wwx to wait for them but they never come back because they died.

In this au they tell wwx to wait for them and they knowingly leave him there so they can live their life to fullest.

Here they realised that parenthood is not something they're suited for so they leave wwx in the inn and write a letter to jfm. They think he'll come in three days max and they paid three days rent at the inn

But the messege never reaches jfm. And wwx lives his life in pain, always missing his mom and dad.

Post canon he meets them and finds out the truth. They now have another child. Some 7-8 year old child because now they were ready after living their life to the fullest.

They now want wwx back. But wwx can't help but wish that it was better when his parents were dead.

Ok but dude... they waited 30+ years? What if they came back when Wei Wuxian was still a teenager, before the war started and everything went to shit? Then Jiang Fengmian is still around and the perfect memory/image he has of his two old friends gets shattered beyond repair alongside Wei Wuxian's heart! I want to see Jiang Fengmian getting into a very confusing and messy custody battle with them! I want to see young Wei Wuxian asking himself why they didn't want him and what about him was so unlovable that his own parents chose to abandon him to the streets!

[angstymdzsthoughts]

No more angst, enough angst, YZY divorces JFM, they have shared custody of their two kids and WWX lives with JFM 24/7, everyone's happy ;^;

Sorry, what was that? More angst? Not enough angst? Ok!

WWX blames himself for the divorce and feels crippling guilt over it :)

YZY starts to manipulate her children to alienate them from JFM :)

JFM is noticeably happier after the divorce and JC and JYL take that as a sign he doesn't want or love them :)

Since JFM is a workaholic WWX is left alone at home almost everyday that JC and JYL are with their mother and feels incredibly lonely :)

[angstymdzsthoughts]

When YZU dies, she gets the chance to change smth. So she makes it si CSSR never married WCZ

Things proceed. WCZ is a good first disciple, but unhappy. YZY tries not to care, he's alive bcs of her

JC is worse than before. W/o someone to complete against, he has no reason to get better. None of the disciples dare become better than him. JFM is still passive and YZY has no excuse

Cssr is passing the land leaving death and glory in her path. Wwx has been born and YZY hates, but there's not.much she can do.

Then, before the GuSu camp, they find CSSR s corpse. It's obviously a murder, and q cruel one at that.

JFM and WCZ bury her and make her a tablet. YZY wants to yell

Gusu happens and so does the indoctrination. YZY doesn't prepare. Wwx didn't annoy the wens this time, LP is safe.

And then the Wens attack.

Wwx is there. Clad in Wen colours. He throws JC to the side qnd storms to JFMs office. He stabs the man who should have been his father and looks over YZY. Eyes that used to be filled with fear, with respect don't even have hate in them now. Barely indifference. He steps over her and craddles CSSRs tablet and to his chest

Then, the third sun of Qishan Wen, WRHs bastard son claims domain over Lotus Pier

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