#jc: KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL
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wen wanyin au commission for @lunadiane based off of this wonderful threadfic! wen ruohan loves his new family~
#jiang cheng#wen ruohan#yu ziyuan#mdzs#mo dao zu shi#wrh: i <3 my new daughter#jc: KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL#wrh: (picks her up from the scruff like a skrunkly kitty) hehe ^_^#jc: ........#wrh is weak for his ladies#jc may be a grown woman in a childs body but she still clings to her mama like a true bebi 🥺#this au is up there with some of my favorites of luna's aus :3
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Heartfelt Reunion.
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#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#wei wuxian#jiang cheng#blood#wen chao#My 'labeling things' bit started because I was worried that it might be hard to tell what things were due to my rough art skills.#And while I think I don't need to clear up the ambiguity as much these days...I think it is well earned here!#Rest in torment Wen Chao. Rest in literal pieces.#What a truly cute reunion scene this was B*)#They fall back into a comfortable pattern of banter despite the length of time apart. While also standing in front of dead bodies.#While I'm here - Let's clear something up: WWX does a *lot* of torturing and killing in this scene.#If JC is to be credited for any tortures let it be known he did that right alongside WWX. They get co-torture credits here.#Your favourite character is responsible for several horrible tortures and murders.#Was it justified? Honestly I don't think so. I think it very much needs to be over-the-top-violent to show how WWX has changed.#It was excessive force to satiate his need for revenge. WWX is consistently demonstrating how he feels justified in his actions#Up until now they have been for relatively noble causes. Protecting Mianmian - Giving away his core - Punching Jin Zuxian;#It's the same flaw in a different setting.#Tune in next time for LWJ's reaction to the blood sport vibes.
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#mdzs#lan wangji#wei wuxian#jiang cheng#lan xichen#nie huaisang#jin guangyao#lan qiren#lan sizhui#jin ling#yanyan polls#anyways if i were lwj and people kept trying to tell me about wwx and jc's tragic bromance or whatever#id fly over to lotus pier and kill him myself#may you reincarnate as a worm etc etc. stay away from him#anyways when in the timeline does this happen? who knows. your choice. time and space are artificial constructs in the mdzsverse anyways
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bonus:
somehow their different cross-media designs give off different vibes/ship dynamics to me, i just thought it'd be fun to draw it out lol
(also i love their mobile designs they're so pretty ;v;)
#mdzs#sangcheng#chengsang#jiang cheng#nie huaisang#jc would read the 'kill your double' assignment and make it his personal vendetta#striarts
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If all Wens were actually evil, Jiang Cheng would have been dead.
#and he still paraded his blind hatred#he still seeked to kill the same people who saved his life in more ways then one#jc i want to see him in a good light but he doesn't give me any reason to#wn snd wq sheltered them taking a big risk#also wn brought back zidian as well#jc has no excuse he hated wn way before the death of jzuan#that purple grape is bitter sour and acidic#and that's that#thinking about wen remnants death again and i am feeling hell lot of emotions#fuck the cultivation world#jc didn't even take a stand for them when he very well knew he could#canon jiang cheng#canon jc#wen ning#wen qing#wen remnants#mdzs#mo dao zu shi#mxtx#mo xiang tong xiu
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brother
#i was thinking about his grief#and how so full of rage he is#and how there is two sides to grief#and i wonder how many times he bawled his eyes out on his own and then picked himself up on his own and got so explosively angry because#there was nothing else he could do . ten years is a long time to stay quiet about being hurt#i have a lot of feelings on his my brother was killed by someone who was supposed to help him thing#because i understand#and it’s interesting to me when i think about how i dealt with that that my rage was directed inward#sort of like jc#i have a billion psychology major thoughts too but eh maybe later#gestures have a doodle#art tag#mdzs#nie huaisang#nie mingjue#nie bros
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You ever just get off of work and think about Jiang Cheng and about how random civilians yap on and on about how he’s mean and cruel. Yet for all their rumors and hissed words, Jiang Cheng has a thriving sect that cares deeply for him and is trusted greatly?
Like he was what, 16? When his parents died and he was left alone and traumatized from the Wen’s torture and his brother was missing and his sister was hidden away for her safety. And he marched across the land and was so charismatic, so capable, so full of confidence (fake or otherwise) that cultivators who had no reason to trust or give a damn about him, where willing to follow him through war.
There’s so many rumors flying around about him being this nasty cruel man, yet his sect is filled with people who go rushing after him. Who have faith in him when he says not to say anything about his claim of Mo Xuanyu being WWX. Who are trusted by Jin Ling, who adores his uncle so much, to watch Zidian and return it to him. Who willingly skip around after Jin Ling in fake Jin robes to watch for him.
That’s not a sect that’s under a cruel and harsh leader. That’s not a sect that fears their leader. Jiang Cheng couldn’t have gotten where he is, if he was half of what the rumors say he is. He can be ruthless, yes, but when he loves he loves so fucking deeply. And by the fact of the sheer number of people who joined his sect and raised their kids under his protection, it’s so clear that that love extended to his new sect.
Anyways the secret to Jiang Cheng is that he loves and loves and loves and loves.
And loves.
#jiang cheng#mdzs#I’m in a fucking m o o d#for atleast the next 20 minutes atleast#I’m sorry WWX but If u were right about JC#then you wouldn’t have a nephew because he would have been killed off in the first protagonist moment he found because JC wasn’t there to#catch him from leaping off a cliff w a sword he doesn’t know how to fly on yet
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Why do people keep insisting that Jiang Cheng killed Wei Wuxian???
#the 'i have read the novel not the soft cql' crowd keeps at it?#if you did then you'd know??#jiang cheng#wei wuxian#you believe jc would've have killed him?#really?#mister Everything That Left Me Has Clawmarks On It?#please
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"Jin Ling wasn't abused! Jiang Cheng was the perfect uncle to him, and Jin Ling would never doubt that—"
Hey, quick question: how come Jin Ling hesitates to go to Jiang Cheng during the second siege despite all the other boys immediately and unhesitatingly running to embrace their relatives when the adults arrive?
These cultivators, including Jiang Cheng, all bathed in blood, their faces tired. All of the boys rushed outside the cave, shouting, “Dad!” “Mom!” “Brother!” They were embraced into the crowd. Jin Ling looked left and right, as though he still hadn’t decided yet. Jiang Cheng’s voice was harsh, “Jin Ling, why are you so slow? What are you taking your time for? Do you want to die?!”
—Chapt. 68: Tenderness, exr
#mdzs#canon jiang cheng#a child who had just been kidnapped#and then rescued by the man HE stabbed after being raised with the belief#that said man intentionally murdered his parents#hesitates between running to one of the uncles that raised him#vs. staying at the side of the man he thinks orphaned him#totally the behavior of a child raised in unquestionable love#'jin ling loves jc so jc couldn't have abused him!' yeah well jin ling ends the novel#still loving jgy#and jgy spent his last moments in life ordering his nephew's dog to be killed#admitting that HE is the reason his nephew is an orphan and that he actually doesn't like him#and then almost killing said nephew#so maybe we shouldn't be going for low bars
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he is the BEST BOY and he is SO CONCERNED about his uncles who are both straight-up not having a good time right now 😭
#during JC's meltdown JL kept trying to place his hand on JC or restrain him for his own safety and JC kept PUSHING HIM!!! enough to stumble!#which is probably more aggressive than JC has ever been with him before#so between that and JGY obliquely threatening to kill him in the prior episode he is having SUCH A BAD NIGHT#jin ling#masala necromancy wizard hour
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chu! two kisses for jiujiu!
#jiang cheng#jin ling#lan xichen#xicheng#mdzs#mo dao zu shi#this killed me but i love u jc happy birthday baby
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Advanced Interrogation Technique: Dog
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#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#wei wuxian#jiang cheng#JC is like a disney princess in the sense he always has some cute creature trotting nearby and available to assist him#he is *not* like a disney princess in the sense he tries to do murder and torture.#Even though some of those girlies really deserve to do a little killing and tormenting as a treat#Mulan may not count because she's not a princess but she canonically does kill. So she's winning#Anyhow. JC. He gives off 'melodious voice vibes and I'll die on that hill. Sadly he's not beautiful on the inside.#Animals love him! Women fear him.#BTW while you've been reading these tags...wwx has been suffocating under a pile of wiggly fluff#Oh no he's not moving. Oh Jin Ling picked up the dog? Jin Ling returns the favour of saving his- ?#oh no Jin Ling is giving his uncle instructions on how to better perform puppy interrogation. They are bonding.#wwx is passed out and they're *bonding*
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MDZS and asshole victims: thoughts on the second siege of the burial mounds scene
this post is not about morality judgments. this post is about reader sympathies only.
one rather clever rhetorical trick MDZS employs is putting all the more background "surviving victims of wei wuxian's actions" into one big angry mob at the second siege of the burial mounds, instead of letting them crop up anywhere else in the story. it's easy for a first-time reader to write off the guy who lost a leg at nightless city, or the guy whose parents died at nightless city, because both of those guys are being dicks. they're part of an angry mob baying for wei wuxian's blood--unfairly baying for wei wuxian's blood, because this time he didn't even do the thing they're saying he did. by putting these two victims into a mob of not just fellow victims but also unaffected individuals (ie. sect leader yao, who just showed up for kicks), the story can effectively equate these victims' grievances (ie. "you killed my parents") with unreasonable mob rule--even if these two things might not actually be equivalent.
the effect of this rhetorical trick, then, is that the reader can at once perceive the themes about mob mentality MXTX wishes to convey, and also effectively write off the victims' complaints. "yes, i did that to you, but i literally died already, what more do you want me to do? shall i walk on my knees repenting?" becomes easier for the reader to accept. and more importantly--wei wuxian's likability as a moral and just protagonist is not impacted.
ngl tho. it would be a bit more difficult for the reader to write off these victims' complaints if, instead of meeting said victims in an angry mob, the reader instead met these victims almost anywhere else. imagine if, instead of meeting mr. "you killed my parents" at the second siege of the burial mounds, we instead met him getting smashed at the local bar and crying about how his parents are dead. imagine if, instead of meeting mr. "you chopped off my leg" as a member of an angry mob, we instead met him begging for alms on the side of the road because his disability rendered him unable to work in a wuxia-esque setting. or imagine--if either of these background characters, overcome with survivor's guilt and trauma from nightless city, hung himself in his bedroom, and the next day his body was discovered by his 15-year-old daughter.
all of these scenarios are entirely plausible. you could easily include any of them into the story without changing the main plot at all. but suddenly shit just got a lot more depressing.
however, no such scene would ever be included in MDZS. the reason is that, as a work of fiction, MDZS's single most ardent goal is for us the readers to conclude not just that "we like wei wuxian as a character," but also that "wei wuxian is ultimately a morally righteous person." when the narrative focus shifts onto the people who were actually helped by wei wuxian's actions (mianmian and her family, lan sizhui, the few months of dignity the wen remnants were afforded) this becomes much easier for us to conclude; wei wuxian does indeed look like a hero. but the more narrative focus is given to the negative impacts of wei wuxian's actions--the more the "victims of wei wuxian" (whether actual victims or not) are given a face, instead of abstracted away by broad summaries--the more the reader might side-eye wei wuxian instead. every new victim given a name, given narrative attention that isn't just focused on making them look like an asshole, arouses the reader's sympathies in the opposite direction--and thus increases the risk that the reader might ultimately disagree with the novel's conclusion of "wei wuxian is a righteous person."
tbh, this does not seem like a risk MXTX particularly wants to take. instead, she's mastered the art of writing Asshole Victims.
which is an entirely valid writing decision, because imo basically every work of genre fiction out there does this to some extent.
#mdzs#yanyan speaks#yanyan haterpost#tbh this is also why jzx gets so little narrative focus#wwx kills him...so if the readers like him too much they might turn against wwx. which is no bueno.#this is also why jc is such a dick in the present half of the novel:#wwx did cause him a lot of harm (and vice versa) so it's easier to write him off and not get mad at wwx if jc is a huge dick about it.#jc's easy to hate lmao. asshole victim.#this is also also why jyl had to die.#she's too nice to be an asshole victim.#like if fucking jc starts ragging on wwx you can easily argue that he also did xyz wrong. also he's being a douche.#but if jyl starts crying about her murdered husband then shit just gets awkward and depressing.#anyways real apologists will say Skill Issue. godspeed kings
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oooh OK i went back to check something for that last ask and was struck again by how much Lan Wangji, Zixuan, and Jiang Cheng trust and respect Mingjue that is their general accept no substitutes. The only good authority figure (Xichen exempted if you're Wangji). And then he does what he believes is right and turns down the big chair, leaving a power vacuum open for Jin Guangshan to exploit.
#also probably became increasingly violent and erratic there's a great shot of them all nervously eyeing baxia as it rattles in its saber and#he swears to kill all wen#this is after jc let wq go. and lwj knows it but not officially#delicious#anyway i love u dage but probably not as much as your army of impressionable twinks
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🐶
#good boy jc!#me making this: huaisang's an animal lover!!!!#me remembering huaisang kills cats: 🫠#mo dao zu shi#mdzs#jin ling#sangcheng#nie huaisang#jiang cheng#the grandmaster of demonic cultivation#mine
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unfinished brocedes leyendecker study
#based on that one promotion/commercial/etc#happy with what got completed but having to render a second person drained every drop of motivation within me LOL#well not 100% happy but i dont hate it#having issues with finishing any work recently and also midterms are killing me#brocedes#nico rosberg#f1 fanart#jc leyendecker#my art
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