#james potter was obsessed with lily and it's canon

[danadiadea]

examples of stalker behaviour: - not being confident and extroverted enough to promptly approach other children as a 9 years old; - trying to prove your bullies do things that go beyond the school rules and the law (which is true) because you want to be able to study without them hurting you; - going to apologize to your friend because you've called her a foul name during a highly traumatic event and now you feel guilty; - being friends with a girl or having a crush on her overall. Soooo creepy.

examples of not stalker behaviour: - making a map that puts an unconsensual GPS on everyone at school, letting you monitor anyone you want 24/7 (two times less stalkerish if you also bring your invisibility cloak); - repeatedly asking out a girl who keeps saying she hates you, and telling her that if she agrees, you'll stop hurting her friend.

[danadiadea]

people who think forcibly undressing others without their consent isn't a sexual assault terrify me. people who think a group of armed people publicly undressing someone they've just disarmed and choked and dehumanised isn't a sexual assault amuse me though, because you are lying. there is no way on earth you'd change the characters' names and thought "oh yeah, this is so acceptable and legal, absolutely not a trauma and not a violation of basic human rights at all".

sectumsempra had been used trice in the series and have never once killed anyone. including none of the marauders, evidently. and I mean obviously the situation is super solvable if the only way for the victim to protect themselves is to possess a deadly weapon.

also, if someone doesn't take the blackmailing, it means it doesn't count or didn't happen. any violation counts only if the victim is perfectly victiming for the marauders fandom I guess?

I love it when Marauders stans try to portray Lily as the ultimate feminist icon when any woman with half a brain and even the most basic understanding of gender studies knows that you’d be safer locked in a cage with a hungry lion than with a rich brat who publicly strips people and blackmails you into dating him in exchange for not committing sexual assault. Like, what world do you even live in? Seriously?

[padfootastic]

james would’ve adored the heck out of hermione for brewing the polyjuice in 2nd year (illega animagi anyone?) and also, for keeping rita locked up in a jar. oh and punching an asshole classmate in the face.

[starofthefullmoon]

we don’t appreciate enough the fact that Harry’s kids are Gen Z

like James Sirius is on tiktok. pulling pranks on his dad. the savior of the world, famous Harry Potter being forced into doing tik tok dances with his kids.

Lily Luna LOVES Taylor Swift. i KNOW Ginny loves her. Harry does too. Albus and James would never admit it but they know every song.

Albus loves Reputation, of that i’m certain.

Albus and Scorpius are rocking to Conan Gray in the Slytherin dorm. Scorpius loves One Direction, probably.

Albus loves to ghost his parents facetime calls. They just call Scorpius instead, he always answers.

[petrerpkr]

Marauders stans need to be stopped or at least read the actual books

[neverenoughmarauders]

‘You’re telling me that people think - people ACTUALLY THINK - I would be dating my best friend’s pureblood obsessed, loser brother… when Sirius IS RIGHT HERE!??’

All versions of James Potter

[moutainrusing]

thriller

820 words, @wolfstarmicrofic

“There’s a spy in the Order.”

Moody’s rough growl was followed by silence. Cold, suffocating, hands-around-your-neck type of silence. Sirius broke it.

“Can I speak to you in private?”

Moody raised a brow, but otherwise nodded, and he and Sirius left the room, leaving the rest of the Order to whisper in rushed hushes behind their backs.

“What would you like to tell me, Black?” Moody focused intently on his face, his small, dark eye narrowed to make it even smaller, and the bright blue one unblinkingly unsettling.

Sirius didn’t let it perturb him. “Lupin is the spy.”

Moody sucked in a breath. “You’re telling me your boyfriend—”

“Ex. And we weren’t ever boyfriends, ‘cause he never wanted to label it.”

“Right. If you’re being salty—”

“I’m not. I can prove it.”

- - -

“Lupin is the spy.”

James huffed impatiently. “Sirius, I swear to Merlin, he’s our friend, and his name is Remus.”

Peter looked scared. “He might be the spy… he’s a werewolf—”

Sirius turned sharply, halting his pacing to tower over Peter. Peter’s eyes widened, and he tried to curl up further into the couch, but Sirius maintained his intimidating stance. “What the fuck, you cunt? It’s not because he’s a werewolf! That has nothing to do with it. I don’t care if he’s a werewolf. Being a werewolf doesn’t dictate his fucking personality. Werewolves are like humans, because they are humans, and humans can be good or bad or anything. And Lupin. He’s just bad.”

Peter looked at him with wide eyes. James shook his head, and tried to defend both Remus and werewolves, but Sirius wasn’t listening. Lupin was bad, Lupin was bad, Lupin was, Lupin. Lupin.

- - -

Pub night. Surprise, Lupin wasn’t available. Stuck on another mission. Because it’s believable to have missions every minute of the day, right? So explain why all the other members of the Order were free? Why didn’t they also have constant missions?

Lupin was the spy.

“I’m gonna head home,” Sirius announced. James pouted. Peter looked as if he were trying to read him, except Peter was too dumb to read. Everyone said their goodbyes.

- - -

He was not heading home. Unless home was Lupin, because then he was heading home.

Shit. Lupin was not home. Not home. Lupin.

- - -

Lupin’s. Oh. Remus still left his bathroom window open overnight. Lupin. Remus was dead.

But this part of him was alive.

The Remus who’d laugh whenever they showered together for too long under scalding water, unable to see each other through the thick, cloudy steam, but always touching. Even if the water was burning, they’d still kiss red and hot, and burn even more. Even if they couldn’t see each other, they’d always know each other.

And after, Remus would leave the window open, to stop the moisture growing bacteria over their surfaces, because he was adorably concerned over things like that. Then he’d forget to close the window overnight, because he was endearingly unconcerned about his own safety. He was precious.

Now he was gone. Lupin was here, and Sirius wanted to punch him until Remus was back.

- - -

He cast a Disillusionment over himself and climbed through the open window. Although he could’ve just used the front door, because Lupin wasn’t home.

He crept to their — Lupin’s — bedroom. Why was he creeping? He could just walk.

But this felt illicit. He opened a drawer. Illicit.

Pages of tea-stained parchment, same charm as the Marauders’ map. Revealing charms wouldn’t work. But this might.

Sirius transformed into his Animagus form. He sniffed the letters. Dark magic. From all his years living in Grimmauld Place, surrounded by it. Awful, metallic, blood on his tongue. Sulfuric, smokey, fumes in his lungs. This was the magic of Death Eaters.

- - -

There was a calendar on Lupin’s wall. Apparently he hated dates. He’d stabbed all of the numbers repetitively, and it smelt salty. Tears.

Good. Lupin should be sad.

- - -

Lupin was the spy.

- - -

“James and I would like you to be our Secret Keeper,” Lily smiled at him, painful yet sweet.

Sirius knew what they were doing. Trying to make him think of something other than Lupin.

He would do anything to keep James, Harry and Lily alive. The Potters were his whole world.

But he wouldn’t stop thinking about Lupin.

- - -

“Make Peter the Secret Keeper.”

James and Lily looked at him, bewildered.

“The Death Eaters would suspect me immediately. You’ll be safest in Peter’s hands.”

James nodded. “Okay. I trust you, Padfoot.”

- - -

Sirius did not trust himself.

He was in love with the spy.

Obsessed, not love. He didn’t know how to love.

- - -

Sirius laughed. His chest was aching, and his ribcage was squeezing his lungs, so he laughed harder. He was barking.

Barking, and barking mad.

No, he didn’t know how to love.

He’d let James and Lily die. He’d made his Godson parentless. He let Peter get away with murder.

At least Lupin was still Remus.

[sophsicle]

okay, hold my drink *hands u cursed ancient goblet full of mead* i gotta talk my shit for a second.

ive been seeing a lot of severus snape love recently. and this is fine, obviously, y'all can love whomever you want. but. i need to rant or i will explode. if we're talking about canon. severus snape spends his adult years, seven books of it in fact, abusing children. and his excuse for this is the girl he loved (tho not enough not to join a group actively trying to exterminate her) fell for the hot jock instead of him (a tragedy indeed, i weep 4 him, i really do). and also she died, which, admittedly is very sad.

it is simply crazy 2 me 2 look at that and think *romance* or *genuine care and affection*. LIKE. fo real. snape calls her a slur in public, apologizes in private, hangs out with dudes who commit hate crimes against her friends (CANONICALLY, she says "you've been hanging out with that douchebag Mulciber, how could you do that after what he did to Mary???" this is not a direct quote but like, it's close enough). lame. loser behaviour.

"Oh but what about regulus" i can hear you say "he loves James potter but snape doesn't love lily???" well. idk. maybe. bit different tho, innit? due to james not being the demographic regulus is attacking (which doesn't make regulus a better person but does make the dynamic between him and james different). ALSO. Regulus chooses to turn against voldemort without hope for anything in return. snape doesn't seem to give a shit about voldemort, he's just sad he's not gonna get to bang lily evans. he switches sides for that reason alone. also doesn't care about what happens to her husband or her son which like. considering lily would be pretty fucking destroyed if they died. once again points to my whole, he doesn't really give a shit about her, theory. lame. loser. behaviour.

also. im sorry. I"M SORRY. but what snape does to neville? to hermione? to harry? gross. a grown ass man out here telling an eleven year old neville he's worthless or hermione she's ugly and annoying. or spilling harry's potion and refusing to grade him for it???????????????

reg and draco are children when we see them at peak suckage and therefore they feel like they can be redeemed much more compellingly (CAN be, not SHOULD be, not HAVE to be, just narratively i think they are easier to turn into interesting, sympathetic characters). but snape? snape grows up into a garbage adult. like he doesn't get better. and again, the only real excuse we're given is his obsession with lily. not very demure. not very cutesy.

ALSO. yall remember that time he got a destitute, struggling Remus Lupin fired from the best job he ever had just because he felt like it? remember that time snape weaponized Remus's lycanthropy and people's prejudice against him just cause. like. literally just cause??? his ego was bruised after the shrieking shack incident so he was like "get wrecked Lupin I'm going to tell everyone your secret so you will be forced back out onto the streets" DO YALL REMEMBER THAT BITCH ASS MOVE????????? THAT HE DID AS A FULL ADULT.

IN CONCLUSION, this is silly and, of course, like i said at the start, everyone can have their own thoughts and feelings about characters, but i simply needed to interject here on behalf of snape haters everywhere because i feel like so much of snape's shitty behaviour as an adult during a time when he was really under no duress and was very safe and cozy, is ignored. and my hater heart just cannot let that stand.

[ifyouknowmenahyoudontt]

i genuinely think that the shift from the old marauders to the new one where every straight ship even the canon and most important one (i.e jily) and that whole jegulus/all the other made up ships that make no sense come from a place of fetish. yall LOVE to turn characters into little stereotypes and that whole constant obsession w homosexuality is not helping any cause. most of view view homosexual/queer relationships as more angsty or interesting in a way that’s so strange to me. ships could follow the most standard plot line but still be considered angsty cus they’re queer and why is that? this fandom has taken such a strange turn.

you are making sexuality such a strong and central point in a character importance more than any other trait of their character. and those head canons just end up erasing the most important things about these characters

james potter was a strong and good man. he developed from his arrogant teenage self into a good man fighting for a good cause. but now you made him into a twink that is in love with a death eater/ a member of the family that abused his best friend all his life. james and sirius’s relationship was a central point of their characters. and james’s love for lily is a central point as well??????

sirius being turned into a overly feminine gay drama queen, even though what WAS important about him was his loyalty his strength and his honor??? but all of that was forgotten. HE CAN BE GAY WITHOUT ERASING HIS ORIGINAL PERSONALITY. stop painting him into a stereotype of a gay man.

regulus black is getting the recognition that is to be given to sirius. his character was not some brave rebel vigilante that fought for justice. he was a pureblood supremacist.he was a deatheater. yes he is important to the story but he was not what you made him.

lily evans is the most important character of the series. she’s the reason it exists. her and james’s love is the center point. but it was pushed away by you people to focus on your strange fetishized view of gay men. this MAJOR character whose love for her son and husband literally MADE the story got cast away as a secondary character.

important topics like sirius’sabusive family, lily and james’s courage and love….was remplaced by ridiculized view of characters

make characters gay cus we don’t know anything about them yes okay that’s why wolf star was a major part of the fandom. but the complete shift of every single characters identity is just bullshit.

[miriammctroi]

I still see some people wish they made a Marauders TV show instead of a new Harry Potter show. But you know what, I'm just gonna say it: I'm glad they're making a new HP series.

I'm glad they do that because it will be easy to ignore. We don't need it. I don't give a flying fuck about Golden Trio anymore tbh. Besides we still have the rather recent movies - they don't need a remake. There won't be anything new in that show, it will just be the bigotry straight bitch fest JK Rowling dreams about.

With the video game, it was kind of hard (for me) not to buy it bc it looks great and being a part of a world that used to give you such comfort as a child seems like a dream.

If she made a Marauders TV show that would be the worst-case scenario - all of a sudden there would be an actual Marauders canon, a new fandom and new fandom wars, suddenly they could argue about a canon. We come here bc there is no canon. There is no JKR fucking everything up.

If she produced a Marauders show we'd get: white James, obsessive & borderline toxic Jilly, James-bashing bc JKR is in love with Snape, one-dimensional characters, evil & bullied Peter, black&white relationship between Sirius and Regulus, weird love triangle story between James, Lily and Remus or James, Lily and Sirius, BlacKinnon or girly Marlene - or worse, both! No Slytherin Skittles, Dumbledore the good, etc etc etc

So, yeah, I'm glad she does the HP series instead of touching the Marauders bc it will be so easy to ignore & not to watch, it can tank. I hope it will be a flop and I hope she puts a lot of money into it and loses all of it. At least we are left alone and can continue making everything as queer and diverse as we want to.

[scaramionee]

A long rant about something that's been eating my mind from the inside out so here we go (TW: Might be Controversial)-

Sometimes, I'm just very normal about James Potter and Lily Evans but then I'm not. So growing up, I watched the hp movies first so I never quite had any interest in their relationship, they just seemed like a tragic straight relationship to me so I never bothered with it. But then I read the books and I went immediately like this- "No wonder James Potter worshipped Lily Evans, I would too." Like, this woman is the legit reason why the whole harry potter thing started, and to see the fact that most of the time she's just blatantly ignored or being stripped out of her original identity to be a strong independent lesbian (I don't have any problem with her sexuality, people can imagine her with whomever they like but it kind of ridicules Lily's motherhood in some way) who absolutely either hates James Potter or Insults him for fun just bcz he has a crush on her or being a side chick for James's steamy cheating romance flings hurts me more than I think it should.

I get it, the marauders fandom wholly embraces the fanon so dearly to them like a warm blanket because of many obvious reasons, but sometimes I think we just totally miss the point of this whole franchise. It's obvious that jkr sucks at writing romances which is why most people don't get the spark of canon ships like romione, hinny and remadora but completely missing the point about Lily being a mother figure in Harry's life and as a lover figure in James's life truly pisses me off a lot. Even though everybody is allowed to dislike certain ships because not everybody has the same taste, but I think we miss the fact that Lily was always more than just a mother and a wife in a way that molded her into what she wanted to be.

The reason why I'm completely enamored by Jily is not because it's just a canon ship which literally started Harry Potter, but because the way Lily Evans just had an effect on everyone who crossed their paths with her. Professor Slughorn himself was so besotted with her, Professor Minerva McGonagall teared up at the news of her departing because who wouldn't like her? She's so brave, so full of joy and laughter that she always forgot her own pain in favor of sucking the pain out of another. James was indeed quite taken aback by her beauty and charm, but I'd like to think it developed into something more after seeing the way she treated her close individuals. Lily was the younger sibling, and because she was a witch, she constantly faced harsh behaviors from her elder sister for being a "freak" according to her sister's standards. She may have had an inferiority complex, and she also hanged out a lot with snape, despite facing discriminations in Hogwarts for being friends with a half-blood poor Slytherin. She was willing to change snape, always defending him left and right but it never worked out in the end. Which left her feeling very defeated, she gave up because she felt like she was not worth it, maybe those bullies were right and she really was just a mudblood. And James, developing a crush on her while continuously harassing snape didn't help either. But if we analyze James's character, knowing that he literally took in Sirius just so that he could escape his abusive family, he knew that Lily was downrightly getting used and snape was taking advantage of her kindness and her stubbornness, he knew it because Sirius was in Lily's place once too, always constantly reminded of how they were never enough, so he wanted to save her ( in his own pathetic loser way ofc ) I think there are many hints of Lily noticing James quite a lot because if you really claimed to hate your enemy then why were you so bloody obsessed with the way how their hair looked like after playing quidditch hmmm 🤨🤨

But not just that, let's also talk about how she literally single handedly MADE THE JAMES POTTER, the absolute arrogant toe-rag quit bullying and hexing people for fun, knowing that he's been like this for the most of his life, but he decided to change for her just like a snap of a finger! Not only that, but she also quickly befriended Sirius in a way that he literally turned out to be her future son's Godfather and the secret keeper. The absolute hold she had on the marauders really needs to be studied!

The love James and Lily had for each other was an act of rebellion in it's own way, because back in that time, muggleborns were seen as scums of the earth and inferior to the wizarding society. But James literally went against every single pureblood tradition just to be with someone he loves and believes with his whole heart. That was always the main point. The reason why both of them were so cherished. He literally went up against Voldemort without a wand not just because of his son, but also for Lily, who he absolutely trusts with his whole life, the only person worth loosing the pureblood title for, the only person worth taking the risk of taking the Avada curse to his heart, he just loved her so beautifully, just like the way she always deserved. And Lily, oh lily, always saw the good in everyone, but saw the best in James, decided to sacrifice her life for their one and only son out of pure love and devotion. And the sacrificial love was so strong that the strongest dark wizard of all time succumbed to his own curse and it tore apart a piece of his soul in revenge of separating the two soulmates whom were always destined to find each other and get woven together in every single timeline. It changed the tide of the entire war. She ended it single handedly.

Yes, she was depicted as a girl who was just a close friend of snape, as a sister who's facing discriminations from her own elder sister's profound jealousy, as a lover and wife of James Potter, as a mother of Harry Potter- the boy who lived. But I think there's so much beauty in every single role she was depicted in. It gives us a glimpse of how much impact she had on everybody around her, how much she meant dear to everybody who cared for her, of how much diverse and forgiving person she was, of the way she was always a reassuring shadow around harry even though she was no longer present in the mortal world. No, motherhood doesn't make her one dimensional or boring, it only enhances her ability of loving people the way they deserve. It makes her so complex, but so powerful at the same time. She was a proud mother, and a lover, a friend, and a woman.

Lily Evans, what an absolute Goddess you were. And you'll always be. No other fictional character ever had a hold so strong on me the way she has.

[maxdibert]

Pretty messed up how some people are fans of a creepy and obsessive guy who didn’t care if a man and a child died just so he could get the girl.

Alright, let's break this down, anon, because there's a lot to unpack here.

I think I've mentioned this in several posts already, but I'll repeat it: Severus owed James Potter NOTHING—no compassion, no empathy, no mercy. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. James Potter was a rich, popular brat who abused his social and economic capital to torment a poor, unsupported boy for seven years just because he didn't like him from the moment they met on the train to Hogwarts, and from that moment on, he had it in for him. He was a terrible bully who used his friends to join in on that nasty bullying. So if Snape didn’t care that he died, well, Snape had every right to feel that way. Do you go to victims of domestic violence and tell them they should feel sorry for their abusers? No, right? Well, this is the same thing. James was an abuser, Severus was his victim. Severus did more than enough by not telling Voldemort to torture him to death with Cruciatus, because I would have. Honestly, I don't understand why Snaters always bring up the whole "James was dead and Snape walked over his body" as if it were some horrible thing when, hello! You're talking about an ABUSER being dead, mate. Of course, he walked right over his body—what surprises me is that he didn’t throw a party.

Harry had to die. I know this sounds terrible, but it’s basically what the prophecy indicated. He was a target that Voldemort wasn’t going to let slip away, his fate was sealed. And yes, it’s unethical. And yes, it’s immoral. But the truth is that wars are unethical and highly immoral, and horrible, monstrous decisions are often made. Harry was not an option—asking for mercy for him was pointless because there wasn’t going to be any.

I don’t think Severus ever believed that if James was out of the picture, Lily would go to him or anything like that. I mean, they hadn’t spoken for five years—about six by that time. Severus NEVER harassed or stalked Lily. The only time he went after her was when the whole SWM incident happened, and he tried to apologise. Once she made it clear she didn’t want anything to do with him anymore, Severus respected her decision, and as far as we know from canon, they never interacted again. So, I don’t think, after six years of not talking, with his supposed former best friend having married and had a child with his personal bully, Severus had many expectations of them ending up in any sort of romantic relationship. I think, quite simply, that Lily always represented the only good part of his childhood—the only happy memories, the only moments of peace amidst the hellish violence he endured at home. I believe this was crucial for someone like him, whose childhood and teenage years were marked by violence, and he wasn’t willing to let the one good thing in his life end up murdered.

I agree that Severus is highly obsessive, but haters tend to frame this in a derogatory way, referring to his "obsession" with Lily, and I think it needs some clarification. Yes, Severus is obsessive, and he’s terribly immature at times, and he overreacts enormously when confronted with something that really triggers him (just look at how quickly he loses his temper with Sirius, for instance). This is obviously because he’s someone who never had the opportunity to grow up normally or develop cognitively as he should have, because his whole life was marked by violence. His home life was violent, and at school, he endured violence, and then at 20 years old, he handed his soul over to Dumbledore’s cause and had to work for nearly two decades at a school that was the epicentre of many of his traumas. He literally had neither the spaces nor the environments needed to heal and grow into a functional adult, and you can clearly see this in his behaviour. I’ve always said Severus is more of a diva than the cold, mysterious character people often make him out to be in fanon. To me, he’s someone who, on a personal level, hasn’t been able to grow emotionally in a healthy way and doesn’t know how to manage certain situations, especially those tied to his emotional issues. That said, I also don’t think he was romantically and/or sexually obsessed with Lily. I do think he loved her or was infatuated with her in his youth—first love, crush, whatever. But I don’t believe his need to avenge her death was due to romantic or obsessive love. I think it’s more about his obsession with repaying his debt to her. Severus always felt partially responsible for Lily’s death, and that’s where his obsession lies: it’s not that he’s obsessed with her, per se, but with the fact that he feels guilty for what happened. He feels, in some way, responsible for the death of the one person who showed him kindness, affection, and care during his childhood, which made her the most important person in his life at one point. And guilt often leads to obsession, much like grief that is not properly processed, and I don’t think that kind of obsession is creepy. I think it’s a very human kind of obsession.

Lastly, I don’t find Severus creepy at all. Why is he creepy? I mean, Harry was running around with his invisibility cloak, spying on everyone. The Marauders had A BLOODY MAP that allowed them to track everyone at Hogwarts 24/7 like some kind of magical GPS. Is Severus really the creepy one here? There are literally Animagi who turn into animals to spy on people—I have to laugh at the whole creepy argument.

That being said, if you’re going to come into my DMs to complain about Severus, at least bring some convincing arguments because it’s a bit tiresome hearing the same nonsense over and over again.

[annakaspring]

Officially the longest rant I've ever posted

Snater mauraders fans literally being the most shallow people on earth.

I will see them saying Snape deserved to be targeted and bullied. And the reason is always the same.

"he was creepy" how was he creepy? "He was obsessed with Lily and possessive of her."

oh, you mean like how James threatened to physically assault Lily if she didn't go on a date with him while simultaneously bullying her friend? While Severus did as Lily asked and left her alone when she said their friendship was over.

"He was racist." No, comparing the word mudblood a fictional slur to a real life racial slur is so ignorant, problematic and also completely disregards that there could be actual racism in the Harry Potter universe. And Snape is not a pureblood in fact he is way more muggle born than half blood as he grew up in a muggle neighborhood, wearing muggle clothes. Is what Snape called Lily right? No. could she have still been hurt? Yes. But I see the same people who bash Snape, Stan Malfoy who is canonically a pureblood who hates muggle-borns. Like be so for fucking for real rn.

"He was a nazi" Again, comparing a fictional "cult" to real life devastating history is ignorant and frankly ridiculous. But let's just humor that idea for a moment. Then why do I see maurader fans idolizing characters like Barry Crouch Jr? Or Regulus Black? Who not only joined the death eaters just like Severus did but were privileged purebloods who unlike Severus had money, a proper home, family. And in Barty Jr's case he is literally canonically evil.

"He was a bully." So was James, so was Sirius.And both James and Sirius are canonically described as being obviously well loved and privileged while Snape "so obviously lacked" that. Severus had reasons to be cold, stand offish and rude. had a terrible home life, neglectful if not straight up abusive parents, a single friend, depressed and was poor. What was James's excuse?

And I will see ppl who loooove Draco Malfoy yet despise Snape. Draco Malfoy, who is repeatedly voiced his pureblood prejudice so much as saying he wished death upon Hermione Granger simply for her blood status, was a HUGE bully, surely bigger than Snape ever was if he did ever bully (he didn't). Severus Snape used a slur once, once when he was a child while he was being SA'd and regretted it so much he never used the word again. While Draco literally never even apologized for his fanatical white supremacist behavior. "Well he didn't want to kill Dumbledore" I'm sorry but being too cowardly to kill someone does not equal being a good person.

"Oh well they changed, they grew up and became better." Did they? Where's the proof? Where's the evidence? I never saw Sirius own up to his actions. Remus still excused his friends bullying. "Well actually Draco actually liked Hermione the whole time. And that's why he was so mean to her" So? If anything that makes even worse. If a guy wished me dead, was openly vile to I wouldn’t suddenly be okay with it because he was actually attracted to me the whole time.

So what arguments do the Snaters have left?

Nothing, absolutely zero justification other than shallow, half baked reasons.

Severus Snape commits the most unforgivable sin. Being poor, morally grey AND ugly.

Because being poor can be forgiven as long as you're hot i.e Remus Lupin. But forbid they actually show signs of their class. Being malnourished, having hand me clothes, not being able to have proper hygiene. These are all things that actually happen to severely lower class individuals. Being a pureblood snob can be forgiven as long as you're hot. Being actually evil with zero justification is forgiven as long as you're hot.

People will twist and headcanon characters we get two pages of information on into fully fleshed out people with intricate backstories and believable justification for all their evil behavior.

Meanwhile bashing Snape who is one the most complex, dark, interesting character in the series. All because Snape is "ugly".

Because god forbid a character does not fit their rigid beauty standards and is actually complex and human.

And we're not gonna get into how literally not once was Snape ever explicitly described as ugly or how Draco Malfoy in the books described as having a pointed, rat like face.

And just to clarity I'm not trying yuck anybody's yum. Love the characters you love, stan evil ones, ship all the characters you want. I do! I ship character who make absolutely no sense in canon. create intricate stories for background characters all you want That's what fandom is all about. But don't act you have an actual reason for hating Snape while simultaneously stanning Voldemort and Barty Crouch Jr.

Be straightforward and say you don't like him because he does not fit your rigid cookie cutter beauty standards and you have no compassion.

Cheers,

[bralnwashed]

Writing this rant about jegulus anyway cause why not.

So i got into jegulus originally by reading choices and ahb. I already had a little idea about them beforehand, friend wrote me a whole essay (on the characters and popular ships and why i should join the fandom)

I would definitely recommend reading Art Heist Baby, because that is still one of my favorite fics, and has amazing characterization(in my opinion) for all the characters.

Some of the main reasons i like jegulus:

Too much love x not loved enough (james is usually depicted as the sunshine character, the one that was given so much love he could burst. While regulus is not. He is seen as the one who was ignored, second choice. The one who hides his emotions and becomes quiet and defensive. I think those personalities fit together well.)

They both (in canon universes) are headcanoned a lot to be quidditch players. (i love seeing people fight for opposite teams. they can be rivals, or secretly not rivals)

The rivals to lovers trope (ngl i do enjoy this one. And there is so many ways for them to be rivals to lovers. Quidditch, grades, just because)

i personally love how in contrast to jily, james loving her so loudly and for so long in the spotlight, jegulus is secret, just for them. That james would love him so much that he doesn't talk about it. someone who loves so loud loving someone too much for words?

second on the secret love topic, it gives it a forbidden feel. and especially with how a lot of people put the potters vs the blacks, they are forbidden. And there is something nice about the thought that someone cares so much about you that they would risk things for it.

Reg being that hidden away person gives you the ability to see someone's soft side. To see a place where regulus is safe, able to be himself, his true self. i like that.

James is used to being seen as the hero, the best to his parents, Sirius, and the whole school. Regulus doesn't see him like that, he sees him like he is just another person. i think that makes james feel alive

(may be a hot take) but i think jegulus fics give lily a better characterization a lot of times. I see so much lily content that is just ber being seen as a mother to harry, a wife to james. (Thats what turned me off of jily in the beginning tbh) Lily is so much more than that. She is her own person. she has a personality. she is smart and works for herself, she doesn't need james to define her. she can define herself perfectly well. (almost all the fanart i see has lily with james, lily with hary, lily with both, why not just lily? why not lily without a romantic partner? why not lily with her friend? please send me lily fanart i love her)

I also headcanon lily as aroace or demiromantic asexual. (so james cant have her)

(i also think jegulily is super cool but at the same time i find it hard to picture reg with a girl, though i have read some amazing jegulily fics)

I know i have seen some people think that jegulus and jily are alike, but i think they're completely different.

And i don't think of jily as much of enemies to lovers-guy is obsessed with the girl to stalkery levels till she finally like him back way. I think of them in a way that James is some jock(probably a jerk) and is just allured by lily, this beautiful girl who is so kind and sweet.

I think they are both great dynamics, but they are different.

i tink Jegulus really depends on the person. when they join the fandom, how they view themself, and lots of other things.

[petrerpkr]

Jegulus is just a Jeverus in a slightly different font. Marauders fans already push severus' entire personality into regulus nowadays

[neverenoughmarauders]

When we were up to no good

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'Well, then,' Potter said with a mischievous look: 'we ought to send this tonight.'

'You can't,' Remus said. 'It's past curfew.'

Potter and Black exchanged looks.

'You're right, of course,' Potter said.

'What were we thinking,' Black continued.

'We weren't thinking,' Potter corrected.

'No, but Lupin was,' Black agreed.

'Alright then, we better get ready for bed,' Potter said, grinning at Black.

'Nothing's like a good night of sleep,' Black nodded sincerely before he grinned back.

Remus had a sneaking suspicion he was missing something, and sure enough, a little while later, when they had all gone to bed, Remus could hear the dormitory door open and shut again. When he looked out from his curtain, he saw two empty beds, and Peter's face, scanning the room just like he did.

Peter groaned.

'Quite,' Remus agreed.

'Gits,' Peter muttered.

'Quite,' Remus agreed again.

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An extract of chapter 1 from: when we were up to no good. The story is currently at 61K words and 26 chapters, updated about 2xweek.

My attempt at a truly canon-compliant marauder story with very limited fanon! No wolfstar. Marlene and Dorcas are not at Hogwarts at the same time as the Marauders. Alice is obviously some years older so she can have time to become a well-respected Auror and a mother. Sirius and James are practically inseparable because they were and I love them so much!!!!