#i dont have any coping mechanisms anymore
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2truehearts Ā· 2 years ago
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bro i cant keep doing this anymore istg
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spitblaze Ā· 1 year ago
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todays award for 'man what the fuck' goes to reddit for making me see pr0/-ship discourse in goddamn 2023. thought we were past that but i guess not
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angelstrawbabie420 Ā· 4 months ago
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crazy how i have no one
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#like yes i have my internet friends and i adore them ofc#but i have no fucking one irl#and i mean no one. my momā€™s side of the family is all dead and the other side is uber christian and doesnt give a fuck about us#i only have my brother#and i need help and support so horribly bad but i wasnt there for him when he needed me#so why the hell should he be there for me. he shouldnt#im going to have to rely on myself this time and i cant do that#i dont trust or believe in myself whatsoever#i think im fucking horrible and useless and repulsive#and idk how to be nice to myself bc ive never felt that and i dont know how to self soothe#i dont have the energy physically or mentally or emotionally to learn#and idk what to lean on anymore if i want to quit abusing substances#realized recently how much i do that.#and for how long. a decade. ive been acting like a 13 yo this whole time#idk how to move past and grow up. god i absolutely need to see my therapist again. if sheā€™ll have me#i fear ill be rejected tho ive left and came back several times and last time she said ā€˜ofc ill take you back youre my personā€™#whatever that means. ive been an anomaly to every therapist/psych ive been to apparently they all mention how weird i am and how they cant#figure me out. like damn me too doc!#i want to email her so bad but i wont be able to see her until my insurance goes thru and i dont want to get free labor out of her if i dump#all the trauma ive sustained since i last saw her on her yw#but i want to get better i dont want to live like this anymore i cant do it#any of it#my coping mechanisms are all self destructive and i want to grow past that#but i need help and i dont have it. not really#whatever i guess. first step call and see wtfs going on w my insurance#i feel like i need help even for that . i feel so utterly incapable of everything snd i always have#i can do it. i can do it
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mariemariemaria Ā· 5 months ago
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i feel kinda crazy bc whenever i was a teenager i created this sorta imaginary older big sister who had moved out of the house so in my head i could live w her whenever i wanted bc she had survived it all and was independent and she would also just comfort me in a big sisterly way whenever something bad or upsetting happened and recently ive been going back to that at my big age šŸ˜­ and its kinda sad and also just wish fulfillment and also kinda scary bc i really used to think that by my age i'd have everything sorted but i really don't and i know that's normal and nobodies twenties are perfect but some people also have good relationships w their fathers which is crazy just to think about sooo
#is this readable? i hope not ā¤ļø#i typed up some of my feelings about this in a word doc and just realised like damn i basically have an imaginary friend as an adult#i really am crazy lol#i just feel lonely within my family atm. bc my brother is younger than me so he could never really do anything to help#and i feel like i cant really trust my mam the same anymore..even tho i still love her a lot#and i'm trying to improve my relationship w my dad bc im realising what a hard life he had and that he's not like an irredeemable Bad Perso#and sometimes he'll look at me a certain way or apologise for something small that he would never have apologised for a couple of years ago#and i feel like im going crazy like is he becoming a better person or..? and i feel bad bc im not really doing the same#or maybe i am. sometimes i think im unfair to him considering how he is now but i also cant really reconcile what he is now w/ how he#was then. and then he'll suddenly say something to me in a certain tone of voice or with a certain sharpness and i'll go back to how a felt#as a teenager :/ i rlly dont know what to do about it but i think its because i dont really have anyone to talk to about it#i mean i sort of do. but i also dont actually know how much of it actually happened and how much of it i just made up#but having worked w teenagers yeah they can be little shits but i also cant imagine treating any of them the way my dad treated me#just bc theyre annoying or have an attitude or are a little mean or whatever#like theres actually a lot of ppl i could talk to but also how do you even bring something like this up#how do i say 'oh and i invented an older sister as a coping mechanism and sometimes i still talk to her in my head' without sounding crazy#its 2am here i need to go to bed i have work in the morning šŸ˜­ day and night and next day ruined bc my dad spoke to me slightly funny
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sadpeopledancing Ā· 6 months ago
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jackass-jones Ā· 9 months ago
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Girl like. The reason he said "this is how it should be" and faced death with a smile....is cuz he wanted to die. For 2 years he sat there thinking he was worthless and deserved to die. If he hadnā€™t be shot, his death wouldā€™ve been suicide, he was fully planning to die in a gutter somewhere undetected. When saying "this is how it should be" hes literally saying "donā€™t cry because Iā€™m dying, my death is a good thing actually because I fucking suck and you are better off without me". I donā€™t think thatā€™s badass even slightly, itā€™s actually really sad and really shitty. Shinjiro is so convinced that he deserves to die and hates the idea of anyone giving a shit about him because he literally canā€™t wrap his mind around the idea that he will be missed when heā€™s gone, that his death is a bad thing actually. And his last words were meant to be comforting because he fully did not intend for anyone to be there when he died, he intended to die alone, so he says them as a reminder that heā€™s not worth crying over
Personally, if it were me, if I was holding my dying best friend in my arms who was deeply depressed and suicidal and he said "this is how it should be" uh. I wouldnā€™t admire him for it??? Like am I losing my mind when I say the way this game handles Shinji is bad or is anyone else seeing this too šŸ˜°
#its like okay listen i understand the basic math of any persona game they say things and everything they say is actually#very bad when you think about it for more than 3 seconds#like what theyre intending to do with the death of this character is be like oh no your sad friend dies tragically thats so saddddd#but that doesnt mean you cant live a wonderful life full of meaning you cant let grief consume you life is beautiful awagga#and i guess shinji is a specific character whos used cuz i guess its more tragic that he never realized he was worthy of life and shit#and i guess its also like ā€˜dont be like this guy who let grief consume him and then died you gotta Be Differentā€™#which i dont. love. that last part cuz if you think about shinji and what led him down this road#its like. of course hes depressed! he accidentally killed a woman with a child when he was 16!#he himself is an orphan and he just made some other kid an orphan as well and it happened cuz his persona went out of control#which very much can translate to ā€˜this must mean im dangerous and can hurt everyone if im not kept under controlā€™#so of course he isolated himself and believed he was evil and became suicidal like who wouldnt feel that way#like am i supposed to be mad he left sees and took drugs cuz uh while i dont think isolation or Evil Drug is good for his mental health#i dont think him continuing to fight in sees is something he can just easily do again given how he killed someone like he shouldnt have to#be a part of this thing anymore like how would he even safely get castor to not do that??? he cant kill more people on accident!#so yeah like using shinji as an example of bad coping mechanisms is already just. a big fucking oof to me like it just feels like the game#is saying he shouldve gotten over it and simply not be suicidal and stayed on the team. idk if thats the intent but uh it wouldnt faze me#cuz persona games are notoriously awful at writing characters who are traumatized and abused#but what makes everything even worse is how the game kinda like. acts like shinjis death is a stepping stone#like weā€™re supposed to use it as a wake up call and understand the stakes but keep going on anyways#and akihiko and Ken get. ā€˜great character developmentā€™ according to the game telling you they have now developed#but damn all akihiko is is just repressed he cries for 3 seconds and then is like I SHOULD MAN UP and then neglects a depressed child#shinjis dying words are words to live by now even though they piss me the fuck off like girl am i crazy HES FUCKING#HES TELLING ME NOT TO CRY OVER HIM BECAUSE HE SHOULD BE DEAD ACTUALLY AND THIS IS A GOOD THING ACTUALLY#like if the game wants us to still find meaning in life despite losing someone it just really hurts that shinji has to die for that to work#apparently. cuz the character i see myself in is shinji. not some perfect prettyboy who does everything perfectly and has 4 gfs#his death seems like a punishment for bad behavior. the bad behavior being of course depression and drug use. and im simply supposed to be#better than that if i want to live. and we dont get to form a connection with him cuz thats gayyyyy#and his death is like a NOBLE HEROIC SACRIFICE idk its just such bullshit to me i hate it so bad#how is killing a suicidal guy and then treating it as admirable that he said ā€˜this is how it should beā€™ supposed to make me feel#makes me feel sick personally and it ruins the entire gameā€™s theme to me because its fucking shallow and the story is bad and im tired
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xamaxenta Ā· 1 year ago
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no clue what to do
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thatdemiboymess Ā· 10 months ago
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Turning up the music to max volume and laying facedown on the bed because the mental health has hit rock bottom like DROWN IT OUT, DROWN IT OUT, DROWN IT OUT, DROWN IT OUT, DROWN IT OUT, DROWN IT OUT--
Thoughts of self harm and maybe suicidal ideation in the vent in the tags. Sorry.
#irl#vent#self harm mention#self harm#i am not having a good time today at all chat#my brain is giving me the itchy little localized signals in my wrists that are connected to the Bad Thoughts and Horrible Coping Mechanisms#and like honestly i feel like i should be fine but im not#shit sucks#almost started crying because i realized i forgot to grab some new exfoliating gloves while i was at the store#gonna be eating nothing but ramen and potatoes this month#im lonely and life feels like a really shitty time loop and im probably never gonna be able to get my cats and bring them here#because i need to somehow manage to save up $500 just for oet deposit and pet rent#when everything is month to month to month#i dont have any friends and i dont talk to my family and i sincerely feel like i could die and the only person that would know would be#my partner and even then thats because we live together#and when i do finally die its not like anyone will have known me#people that i should or used to be close with will find out eventually and theyll all call me by a name that isnt mine#using pronouns and words and descriptors that misrepresent me as a person#ect ect ECT#whatever#like whats even the point honestly????#i dont know what im doing here i just feel like a huge burden to everyone around me#dssi is barely enough for groceries but its not like i can get a job near me being legally blind#im just a big ol burdensome money sink lolol#just an overly needy little waste of space#i dunno#i dont know shit anymore#im so fucking tired all the time man#im just#so tired
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oneshotnewbie Ā· 6 months ago
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hello hope your having a great day.
i looked at you request thing and i was wondering if you do like reader struggling with self-harm.
if you do can you wright a oneshot with Natasha Romanoff x daughter reader and well Natasha finds out that reader is struggling and all that.
if you dont want to or dont feel comfortable to thats totally fine just ignore this.
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āš ļøTrigger Warningāš ļø This one-shot includes the topic of self-harm and the plot is presented. If this triggers you too easily or you just canĀ“t handle the subject, I urge you NOT to read this work. I am NOT embellishing this topic under any circumstance. Read at your own risk.
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Winter had wrapped New York City in an icy embrace. Snowflakes fell from the gray sky in quiet, deliberate grace, transforming the busy streets into a white wonderland. In the stillness of the morning before the city woke up, the Avenger Tower lay majestically and sublimely above the snow-covered skyline.
Natasha Romanoff, the world's deadliest spy and one of the leaders of the Avengers, stood in the tower's kitchen and stared out the window. Her thoughts were not about the earliest missions or the daily threats, but about her daughter. For a few weeks now, you had noticeably withdrawn. Not only from her, but also from the other Avengers. It was particularly painful for her to see the distance from Wanda, who you had treated like a big sister from the beginning and who was a person you could rely on.
The red-haired woman sighed and mechanically stirred her coffee, which had already gone cold. It was still early in the morning and the other Avengers were still asleep or on missions. But she knew you would wake up soon. The question was whether you would talk this time or you would only communicate in monosyllabic answers and silent glances. Like so often recently.
Wanda entered the kitchen tiredly and with heavy steps. Her steps slowed when she noticed Natasha in her tense posture. "Good morning, Nat," she said gently and went to the coffee machine where the person she was addressing was standing. Natasha nodded at her and turned her back to the kitchen, leaning against it. "Morning, Wanda."
The two women stood there for a moment in silent agreement, only the coffee machine making its noises, before Wanda addressed the topic that was on both of their hearts. "I'm worried about y/n too," she began carefully, knowing that she was never allowed to read the other's thoughts without permission.
"Me too," Natasha replied immediately, making no attempt to lecture her. Rather, she was grateful that she had done so and that she was not alone in her thoughts. "She's changed so much. She hardly speaks to me anymore, and I don't know why."
Wanda sighed and sat down at the table with her full cup. "It could just be puberty. But I have a feeling it's more than that. Maybe she's trying to cope with something she doesn't understand."
Natasha nodded slowly, joining the witch, letting out a loud sigh. "Possibly. But how do I find out what it is if she doesn't want to talk to me?"
At that moment, the two heard footsteps and you entered the kitchen soon after. Your hair fell uncombed in your face and your dull eyes looked tired and distant. You wore an oversized white sweater and faded jeans that made your slim figure seem even more delicate.
"Good morning, my love," Natasha said, trying to keep her tone warm despite her uncertainty and nervousness. You mumbled a barely audible "morning" and reached for a bowl to make yourself some cereal. You seemed withdrawn, as if you were trapped in your own world.
Wanda tried to reach you with a cautious smile and a hand that she reached out to you, a gesture she usually did to lure you into a loving hug. "Did you sleep well?"
You just shrugged, ignored her and sat down at the table in silence. You seemed too lost in your thoughts to speak and your mother could see the pain in your eyes that you hid so well. "Y/n," she began gently. "If you want to talk about anything, we are here for you. No matter what it is."
You raised your head and looked at your mother. For a moment something flashed in your eyes, raising both women's hopes, but then it disappeared again and you lowered your gaze. "I'm fine," you said quietly and started eating your cereal.
The tension in the room was palpable. Natasha and Wanda exchanged a worried look before Wanda stood up and threw on a jacket. "I'm going for a walk," she said and looked at you again. "Get some fresh air.ā€œ
When Wanda left the room, Natasha was left alone with you. She felt helpless, a feeling she detested and didn't really know. But she knew she couldn't force you to talk. She had to wait, patient and ready when the moment came. "Sweetie," she finally said and reached for your hand, which you immediately pulled back. "I love you. And I'll always be here, no matter what."
You looked at your mother and for a moment it seemed as if you wanted to say something. But then you just nodded silently and stood up to put your bowl in the sink. ā€žI'm going to school.ā€œ Were the only and last words she heard before you disappeared from the kitchen.
Natasha felt a deep sadness. She knew that something dark and heavy was weighing on you, something she couldn't bear alone. And she swore to herself that she would find out what it was and help you banish that shadow.
The day dragged on in a haze of unsaid words and silent questions. Natasha spent the hours thinking about ways to finally reach you again. She spoke to the other Avengers, seeking advice and understanding, but no one really seemed to know how to deal with a teenager who had withdrawn into themselves.
In the evening, when you were back in the Avenger Tower, you retreated to your room. Natasha stayed in the living room and continued to think. She decided to talk to Wanda, hoping that she might be able to find a way to reach you.
Wanda found Natasha sitting on the sofa, a worried expression on her face. "You wanted to talk to me?" she asked gently and sat down on the opposite side of the couch, placing one hand on the redhead's shoulder. "Can you read her thoughts?"
Wanda immediately shook her head and pulled her hand away. She jumped up, in disbelief at what she had heard. "No way, Nat. She's too sensitive, she'll notice immediately that I'm im in her mind. And if she notices, you can be sure that she'll never trust you OR me again. I can't reconcile myself with that."
As soon as Natasha was about to counter-argue, they heard a loud clatter from your room above them. Natasha jumped up and ran up the stairs, followed closely by Wanda. When she ripped open your door, she found you sitting on the floor, surrounded by shards of a broken mirror. Your sleeves had ridden up as you tried to pick them up, and your mother froze when she saw the fresh and healed cuts on your arms.
"Y/n!" she cried, kneeling down next to you. "What happened?"
You burst into tears and hastily pulled your arms back, but it was too late. The two women had already seen the scars and fresh wounds. She pulled you into a tighter hug and whispered soothing words as Wanda left the room to get first aid supplies.
"I'm so sorry, Mom," you sobbed. "I didn't know how else to deal with all the pain."
Natasha fought back her own tears and held you tight. "It's okay, darling. I'm so sorry." she said softly and rocked you gently back and forth before Wanda returned with bandages and helped to treat your wounds. The atmosphere in the room was filled with pain and worry.
While Wanda slowly left to leave you two alone after bandaging you, you sat on your bed, a book in your hands while Natasha quietly cleared away the broken glass. After everything was done and the risk of further injury was averted, she nervously walked towards you. "Can I sit down?" she asked carefully and you nodded.
She sat down next to you and took your hand. For the first time in weeks, you didn't pull it away. Instead, tears welled up in your eyes again and you looked at your mother with an expression that broke Natasha's heart into a thousand pieces. "I... I don't know how to explain it,"
"Just try," she encouraged you gently and placed a hand on your back, stroking gentle circles on it. "No matter how chaotic it feels, we can get through it together."
You hesitated, then slowly began to speak. "It's... it's all so much. The expectations in school and later life, the struggles, the losses from our wars. I feel like I'm caught in a storm and don't know how to escape."
Natasha pulled you into a gentle hug and kissed the top of your head. "You don't have to go through this alone, y/n. We're all here for you, especially me and Wanda. She misses you and she wants to help you find a way out of this storm too."
You sobbed quietly and leaned your head on Natasha's shoulder. "I'm so scared, Mom. The upcoming war... I don't want to lose anyone."
"I know, darling. But together we are strong. And we will find a way for everyone to come out of this unscathed, I promise you."
At that moment, Natasha felt like she had finally broken through a small part of the wall you had built around yourself. There was a long road ahead of you, but she was determined to support you and help you find your place in this chaotic world you were born into.
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cy-cyborg Ā· 3 months ago
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I assume this is an autism thing, but why is it so hard for people to understand pain is not the biggest problem for me when medical issues come up, sensation and sensory overwhelm is.
Possibly tmi but im at the point where i dont really care anymore lol, right now I'm dealing with a really bad, chronic uti that just will not go away, no matter what anyone does, and this thing has been making my life a living hell for the last month or so. It's not painful, or well, it is, but that's not the most unpleasant effect I need help with. It's the sensations it brings. The tactile sensation of being incontinent, of feeling like I'm busting 24/7 - so much so it's stopping me from being able to sleep most nights - the fact that both these things are so ever-present that I can't concentrate on anything else. I can't do the things I enjoy like writing and drawing because my brain can not filter it out enough to focus, and it's my body, so I can't escape it like I could with an unpleasant sound or smell.
But everyone I've spoken to about it is under the impression that the pain is what needs managing, the pain is whats causing me to be so upset and not be able to concentrate or sleep, even when i say, point-blank, thats not the case. My doctor, the emergency staff who first diagnosed it (i was instructed to go there due to concerns about my kidneys), my mum and dad, my sister, even my partner, initially, though he understands now. But I've told every single one of these people that it's not pain, it's the sensory overload thats causing the problems, and they just... don't get it. Ive tried being as blunt as I can (and considering i have no energy to mask, ive been very blunt), and it just, doesn't seem to compute with anyone. My doctor is trying to help, but his only solution is pain meds until the antibiotics runs their course, which don't help because it's not pain (and yes, i tried it anyway). The emergency doctors did the same. My mum and dad keep suggesting pain management skills they were taught when I was a kid, mum is also suggesting things that make things like the burning part of UTIs less painful, my sister doesn't really have any advice but she keeps asking me about my pain too when she checks in. I appreciate the attempts and all
But it's not pain.
The only one who did get it right away was my psychologist, but she's not the kind of doctor that can really help with this, outside of giving me suggestions for coping mechanisms and how to redirect stimming/meltdowns to be less destructive or harmful. Which is great and I did need that, but I'd really like to not be having the meltdowns in the first place.
This isn't the first time this has been an issue either, but it has been the worst/longest time. I just don't know how to get it across to people that the pain is not my main problem. I know how to manage pain and make it less intense/more bearable (my whole lower body is covered in skin grafts and I've had several amputations, I have a lot of experience with it), but just because it's not pain doesn't mean its not debilitating and seriously impacting my quality of life. And because it just won't go away (i highly suspect it has become antibiotic resistant), I have no idea when this will all end, which makes it all the more worse.
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the-bonfires-ember Ā· 6 months ago
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ive been thinking about that thing people say about mental illness. yknow, 'its not a part of your personality' 'dont make it your identity' etc
but when you have a personality disorder, that doesnt really make sense anymore.
which makes my feelings on cluster b pride flags a little conflicted. coz, sure, it is fundamentally a part of your personality and certainly shapes your identity, but something about pride flags has always been off to me. perhaps especially as a person with aspd.
now, sure, on the one hand i get it. theres something appealing about having that kind of validation that you arent alone, especially when you are constantly masking and shifting who you are to fit the situation best.
we might have antisocial personality disorder but we are still, at our core, social creatures. we still desire community, we're just also afraid of it.
so yeah, a banner of community and others 'like us' seems fair enough, right?
BUT
theres still something... off to me about it. what it was, exactly, only came to me after a discussion with my partner about DID and PluralKit - yeah i know, im diving into plural drama now, lfg i guess
they showed me an infographic about the process of DID recovery which showed the progression from very disconnected and separated identities to a more blended 'final fusion' (a term they take issue with but thats a different story). i said that PluralKit must be confusing for people on the later ends of the spectrum they were showing me because, at that point, how do you tell who is blending with who? when the lines are blurry, how do you know who to tag yourself as? it seemed like an inhibitor to recovery if you were constantly cutting yourselves off from each other. (this is not me saying anything one way or the other about plurals and recovery in DID or whatever the fuck else, im just using this as an example. stfu i dont care about your opinions on any of this so dont waste your breath)
i think my feelings on aspd flags is somewhat similar. coz i mean, they are pride flags, right? and i think if you are taking pride in being aspd then you are far more likely to lean into your symptoms, and i think thats a slippery slope to go down and has just a very 'anti-recovery' vibe, if you know what i mean.
with that all said, i also very much think that if you dont want to recover, you dont have to. i dont think you can force anyone to recover and i dont think you should even try to. recovery is fucking shit and its hard and if you arent ready for it, you are just going to hurt whoever you are trying to make recover.
but i also think that you can have that opinion, whilst also being a voice for recovery, and be against 'anti-recovery' thinking.
because look, like it or not aspd is a fucking disorder. and at some point that becomes unhelpful or it wouldnt be a disorder. symptoms of aspd are debilitating and pretending otherwise that helps nobody. especially with all the 'all pwASPD are evil' scum out there.
so yes, i think the pride flags are... unhelpful at best and harmful at worst. but what about the other stuff? the creatures alla tbh creature and the plushiedreadful rabbit? (i think both of those designs suck btw but thats not the point)
idk those feel like they are in a different category. theres not really a sense of pride in those, more a sense of comfort. again, community, but also a sort of softness(??) that the pride flag things seem to miss - especially when they are like 'vampire aspd' or 'evil aspd' or any of the other bullshit things ive seen out there. i guess they are also just way more 'mental illness' coded than pride flags are.
pride flags have always been a 'we're here and theres nothing wrong with us' kind of thing. but the creatures and the bears are more lighthearted and sort of making fun of the conditions a little bit. highlighting symptoms and coping mechanisms. just look at the imocreature - specifically the worm one which is my favourite - and the way its able to be so pathetic looking and cute. its not meant to be cool or badass or whatever else, its just a lil guy that gets sad without supply.
which, yknow, relatable.
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walnutofthedead Ā· 7 months ago
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hey ! so i know i dont post much anymore and i still intend on changing that.. but. i just want to say something abt sm thats been bothering me.
I see people complaining about dark fanfic. When they actively interacted with it. If you donā€™t like it, donā€™t read it. I personally have had experience being SAā€™d and I know I can speak for MANY others when I say that itā€™s not a fetish as much as it is a coping mechanism. Iā€™m absolutely glad to answer any questions anyone may have about the topic as I want more people to be aware of this and if I can educate even one person, then Iā€™m achieving something.
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kineticallyanywhere Ā· 1 year ago
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Matt "I can and will remind everyone that Link is REALLY wierd about Normal with like no real explination at this point" Arnold out here like "let me see if I can underminine my entire point in this character arc defining interaction" and I unironically love him for it Link is SUCH a messy b word rn
(this turned into a long response, let's talk Fascinating Character Flaws!)
I dont think it's so much that he's weird about Normal, if I'm understanding what you mean by 'weird', especially in this episode. I feel like it circles back to what I keep thinking about, which is his newest teen fact. the one where he-- does this count as poisoning? he made other children ill in a fit of jealousy for anyone having any time with his dads.
listen, I've had many homeschooled friends. At one point in college I was the "actually went to public school" member of the friend group. People can go in and out of homeschooling and be... not whatever the heck Link has going on. I was excited for him when that fact started, like, "oh he was part of a cohort!" until uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh!
(the following are thoughts that I'm still developing in my head as I type and probably after I post)
whether it's due to the overprotective parenting or just Link's nature or a Symptom of a Condition (op has their own Condition but is not a psychologist) Link's got an issue with like. not getting what he wants? not usually in super obvious ways, it's not spelled out, he doesn't throw tantrums or anything. unless you count the thing at Normal about Normal not wanting to do "cool plans." and most of the time he doesn't want anything complicated, his wants have been pretty straight forward and in line with what anyone would want in these circumstances. he wants people to not die is the big major one, he wants to not feel betrayed again, he wants his friends to stop fighting, he wants to get this over with NOW. and he's been going through so much of not getting what he wants (COMPLETELY REASONABLE THINGS TO WANT, IN THIS CASE. TRAUMATIC THINGS TO NOT GET) that he seems to not know what he wants at all anymore.
like, his understanding of the world has been rocked so bad that he's pretty sure all those things I just listed just aren't things he can have. in the past whenever he needled his parents or acted out or did certain things he'd get what he wanted. not to say that he's spoiled but uh... okay yeah I am saying that a bit. but mostly in the ways that it keeps him from developing the coping mechanisms for when you ask something from life and it punches you in the teeth instead.
So in a world where he doesn't know how to get what he wants and maybe he isn't sure what he even can want, he's kinda just shutting down internally. In the mean time, he may as well make sure his friends get what they want, and then maybe at some point he'll want something again. so, in a way, what he wants is to feel and want something, so that "wants what he wants" part of him snapped out again at Normal with "well at least you're feeling something." in other words, "you have the thing that I want right now, and I'm gonna sound pretty bitter about not having it myself" which is an effed up thing to say when that thing he's having is a mental breakdown.
Link. Buddy. Bud. Kiddo. Pal. you need Help.
tl;dr and conclusion: imo for their mental health the party should split into Link & Taylor and Scary & Normal again for an episode or two. Norm and Scary for hopefully obvious reasons; and Link and Taylor because while Taylor is unquestionably a rich kid spoiled for material goods who is very good at wanting things, he is also a kid who's mom knows how to say "No. Absolutely Not. Give me the knife right now I don't care what seppuku is" and who's dad left an emotional void for over a decade that he is clearly adept in coping with and he could give Link some pointers.
also because it would be a cool callback and parallel to early episodes to do those pairs again. see how they've changed and stuff
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shreddeddescent Ā· 3 months ago
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Oh don't apologize about writing this, we are literally reading it too! I find the story interesting and like, yeah it is fucked up, but I'm having fun reading it too šŸ’ŖšŸ’ŖšŸ’Ŗ
Also, how does Mikey feel about all this? I was thinking about that because he likes to deny the has 'adult problems' like you said, so I am really wondering about how he's dealing with all that is happening
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ughhhh god...... the mikey can of worms about this specifically is exactly what that was about and whats been really tough to talk about. like this specific scene was what i had to get up and walk away from cuz it was painful.
he's not okay. he also doesnt care about it, cuz hes like... ugh you know what. i think i should actually just share this whole thing i wrote about it. this one is rough. nothing graphic, but if you wanna see how fucking not okay this kid is despite how much he's pretending he can be? yeah. hes gonna talk about his bullshit for the first time ever, and something bad had happened to mikey before. and he doesnt even know what.
which is like where i think the whole climax of this arch is going in my head. i havent written it all out yet. im being tugged along on a journey, yknow.
warnings for csa and incest and like. very poor coping mechanisms. all of it this one hurt me personally the most in the end.
theres some implications of things going on in the background, cuz at this exact moment none of the characters have been coping well hence the fucking.... need for these adults. raph needed to be alone to spiral about the 3 kids by himself, leo needed to be put to bed (by mikey) cuz he got way too high after realizing how much he'd been personally juggling everybody else, and donnie wont mind his buisness about anything, mikey had a go at him about it which resulted in him trying to help mikey with his current 'im having traumatic sex dreams' problem. but donnie is the same age and wasnt gonna be able to help much.
if any of it sounds confusing im sorry. id try and do a whole. fic thing about it but i really dont know if i can. whats important here is the mikey part. cuz this is where it all came to a head.
also mentions of lita, whos raph's little alter. the one that was only ever around for shredder. until recently
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Mikey was glad that Donnie seemed better when he left the bathroom. He seemed to have been spiralling about whatever was going on between Leo and Raph.
He was pretty sure the idea of sex repulsed his twin, despite his attempts to explain it to him. He was a good brother. But it really wasnā€™t worth worrying about if Raph and Leo needed to be away from each other. It was weird he cared.
Donnie cared about too many fucking things.
Mikey had spent an extra long time in the bathroom, thinking over if he felt any attraction like Donnie said. Heā€™d thought about exploring his body, but the idea reminded him of Raph. He really didnā€™t want it to but it did. The first time heā€™d seen his own penis was when it was forced into his sleeping brother.
His brother who felt like his mom.
It fucking broke something inside of him. He was trying like hell to be the baby Raph needed, to be okay for him, so he wouldnā€™t make Raph worse. But in the back of his mind he did know he wasnā€™t okay. And maybe he was just age regressing to cope. Maybe he was only getting angry at everyone cuz he couldnā€™t help the age regressing.
It was easy to feel like a baby when you were so malnourished as a child that you looked way younger than you should. Father had seen to that. He didnā€™t take care of him and then blamed Raph for his condition. And maybe he just didnā€™t want Raph to feel bad about it anymore.
And he had recently remembered.. something. Childhood Raph who wasnā€™t Raph. Raph leaving crying, coming back Lita and not crying. Andā€¦ Lita apologizing for something.
The rest was a mystery. A mystery heā€™d thought he might be able to uncover in therapy with Big Mama, but now?! Now there was this wholeā€¦ situation!
So he was just sitting with Donnie quietly, watching dumb shit on YouTube. Ignoring his feelings.
Theyā€™d seen Leo very not so subtly leave his room. He still stunk. He walked funny and airheaded, but as long as he wasnā€™t gonna bother Raph, who cared where he went.
ā€¦Mikey cared a little. And he was the only one who saw how much weed heā€™d smoked.
So after about 5 minutes he sighed and felt the need to get up and see if he could find him.
He went out in his red hoodie and some fresh sweatpants, it was night time and maybe he went outside.
He wandered the hall and felt that vertigo feeling again. He hated it, he didn't feel present. Made him think of the drugs from the cages. The drugs heā€™d been extra pumped full of for being good at fighting them off. That made it worse.
He rested against the wall for a moment and rubbed his eyes.
ā€œHey, little man.ā€
He blinked and looked up. It wasnā€™t Leo.
Jennika was there, in a loose white shirt and cargo pants. She got down into a squat in front of him and smiled.
ā€œAre you okay?ā€
He felt like maybe he was standing on a fault line.
ā€œSorryā€¦ Iā€™m kinda queasyā€¦ā€ he mumbled.
She eyed the place he was standing and gently gripped his shoulders, tugging him about 3 feet to the left.
The feeling faded and he sighed out in relief.
ā€œBetter?ā€
ā€œYeah..ā€ he took a deep breath and stood up straight, smiling at her. ā€œYouā€™reā€¦. I know who you are now.ā€
She stood at her full height and rubbed the back of her neck.
ā€œYeahā€¦ sorry I was uhā€¦ lying before. I guess I wasnā€™t really lying? But you know.ā€
He nodded slowly and smiled. ā€œWhat are you doing here?ā€
ā€œI came to find you. You seemed kinda.. not okay?ā€
Mikey laughed and shook his head. ā€œNah! Iā€™m good! Iā€™m fine, Iā€™m just looking for Leo, heā€™s the one whoā€™s not good.ā€
ā€œLeoā€™s alright. I saw him earlier. Kirbyā€™s kinda.. talking him down from his high I think.ā€
ā€œOh! Wow! Kirbyā€™s talking to Leo?ā€ He smiled up at her, that was exciting. He knew Leo seemed upset about being ignored by hisā€¦. Son. ā€œThatā€™s good. I think thatā€™s good for him.ā€
She nodded and held out her hand. ā€œDo you wanna walk somewhere? These walls are soā€¦ migraine city.ā€
Mikey looked up at her curiously and beamed. ā€œSure!ā€ He took her hand and squeezed it softly.
She squeezed back and they walked to the elevator together. He noticed when she was inside there were more buttons and she pushed one.
She seemed a little shy so he tugged on her arm. She looked down at him curiously.
ā€œCan I call you Jenny? Or is Jennika better?ā€
ā€œYou can call me whatever you want, I donā€™t mind.ā€
ā€œRaph said you're trans like him. So that means you probably chose your own name, right? I mean... he didnā€™t. Cuz heā€™s.. his situationā€™s weird, but am I right?ā€
She blinked and smiled softly.
ā€œYeah.. I did. Is itā€¦ a cool name?ā€
ā€œYeah! So if you chose it that makes it extra important, so I wanna make sure I say it how you want it said. Jen-nick-kah. I like it!ā€
She took in an audibly shaky breath and looked back at the buttons.
ā€œThā€¦thanks Mikeyā€¦ā€
He squeezed her hand.
ā€œI uhā€¦ I donā€™t think youā€™re looking at me for likeā€¦ ugh.. dad approval. But like, you seem cool.ā€
She smiled and laughed a little. ā€œNo, Iā€™m definitely not, but thanks. I feel a little.. weird to be honest. But I hope we can clear the air?ā€
He smiled up at her genuinely and nodded. ā€œIā€™d like that.ā€
The elevator doors opened into a lobby Mikey hadnā€™t seen before. Theyā€™d been portaled from the city straight into Big Mamaā€™s office. This was an actual entrance.
Andā€¦ it was a button they got blocked from pressing? Heā€™d need to think about that later.
Jennika walked with him out of the building and Mikey came into contact with a whole other world. They were in a courtyard of sorts, a city street across from them. The sky was pitch black, because it wasnā€™t a sky, it was high dark cave walls that stretched beyond what he could see. There were floating crystals for street lamps lighting the streets.
The streets were full of yokai, going about their days. Shopping at storefronts of magic and mundane. It seemed busy. It seemed normal.
He stopped in his tracks and Jennika turned to look at him worriedly.
ā€œAre you okay?ā€
ā€œW-whereā€¦ā€ He kept staring over at the street. There were weird chariots for cars, and creatures flying above his head.
This wasnā€™t New York City.Ā 
She seemed to realize what was wrong and her eyes widened. ā€œOh! Youā€™ve.. never been to the Hidden City. Oh shit. This was stupid Kirbyā€™s gonna kill me.ā€
Mikey stumbled back into a fountain in the courtyard and sat on it. He looked behind him and he could see the exterior of the hotel for the first time.
A skyscraper that existed underground, he couldnā€™t even see the top because of how dark it was up there.
He rubbed his temples and closed his eyes, taking deep breaths.
ā€œMikey are you okay?!ā€ She sat down beside him and put her hand on his shell.
ā€œIā€¦ yeah.. itā€™s just a lotā€¦ā€ he didnā€™t open his eyes but he did lean into her. ā€œI donā€™t get out much, I guess. Iā€™d be more excited if it hadnā€™t beenā€¦ a day.ā€
He might have been letting his very well crafted facade slip.
She rubbed his shell. ā€œI just thought we could go get some ice cream and talk it out. I thought maybe the hotel was a dumb place to talk, but maybe thatā€™s my badā€¦ I didnā€™t think about how weird this would be, Iā€™m sorry.ā€
He looked up at her. She looked anxious and guilty.
So he thought about what sheā€™d just asked and blinked up at her.
ā€œHidden city has ice cream? Like somewhere I could try every flavour? Cuz we fit in down here?!ā€ He asked excitedly.
Her eyes widened and she beamed. ā€œYeah! Thatā€™s exactly what I was tryina do!ā€
He jumped up and tugged her arm.
ā€œShow me! Show me show me!ā€
She grinned and stood up, jogging with him down the street.
He was laughing as they ran goofily down the street. People were staring but not because they were freaks, just cuz they were having fun.
They found a storefront for ice cream and there was a many armed person at the till. Jennika boldly asked for two samples of every flavour and it earned a very annoyed look from the clerk. She slid some kind of hidden city money over with an apologetic smile to make it worth their time which cheered them up.
There was some weird flavours in there heā€™d never heard of. Some sounded like fruits that didnā€™t exist, others were weirdly goopy or fleshy in nature. One even made them breathe fire, it was fun. They had a laugh.
By the time theyā€™d tried everything Mikey was given some kind of mix of 5 flavours in a bowl with a spoon, and Jennika got the same.
So they walked down the street eating ice cream together. Like they were normal people having a normal outing.
It was so weird how normal it felt.
She showed him a park to walk through, the trees and plants were purple instead of green which was cool.
They sat down at a bench facing a glowing green lake to sit and eat. It was peaceful. He liked it.
ā€œSo how are you?ā€ She finally asked, scooping ice cream in her mouth.
ā€œKinda confused. Youā€™re really nice and cool, but likeā€¦ youā€™re.. you know. And I donā€™t know what Iā€™m supposed to feelā€¦ like, I feel kinda silly? But also.. feel kinda bad?ā€ He was squishing the ice cream together, mixing the colours absentmindedly in the bowl.
She hummed and swallowed back her current bite, placing the bowl down beside her. ā€œI can tell you how I see it. Which is that youā€™re like.. a brother. Like I know where I come from, but youā€™re just a kid, and youā€™re a kid on your own and that makes me sad, and I feel like Iā€™m standing right here in front of you with like.. I dunno, open ears. No thatā€™s not the phrase..ā€ she tapped her chin as she tried to think.
Mikey looked up at her curiously. ā€œOpen arms?ā€
She snapped her fingers and grinned down at him. ā€œYeah! Open arms. I know itā€™s weird. I'm not trying to make you feel weird, I just wanna listen if you need someone.ā€
He looked down at his bowl and took a small bite. He wasnā€™t sure how well some of this went together but he liked it all the same. A big fucked up hodgepodge of deliciousness.
ā€œIā€¦ donā€™t want you to feel weird. Maybe Iā€™m hoping weā€™re just gonna be a big family with ease and nobodies gonna have any problems anymore and I can just be normal and not worry anymore.ā€
She smiled sadly and bumped his arm with hers.
ā€œIā€™d like to be a family like that, but I think it wonā€™t be so easy. And thatā€™s okay. I wanna put work in, we all do. I think itā€™s worth a try, and Iā€™m kinda old enough that I can handle whatever you wanna throw at me.ā€
He glared at the lake with a tired look in his eye. ā€œJust cuz youā€™re old doesnā€™t make you able to handle stuff. Old people never handle stuff good as far as Iā€™ve seen. I guess thatā€™s not fairā€¦ I just think Iā€™ve seen my brothers get hurt over and over cuz people donā€™t care how they come off to us. Cuz Shredder treated us like animals, and Splinterā€¦ā€ he sighed. That was a whole can of worms. ā€œSheā€™s old, and yet she felt more emotionally stupid than everybody else. Than her own kids.ā€
He blinked and realized heā€™d been talking a bunch and looked up at her. She was just watching him with a sad look.
ā€œSorry. Iā€™m fine. Thanks for the ice cream, it's good!ā€ He put his happy voice back on and shoved more in his mouth. He thought about how much he could fit at once before swallowing so he took bigger bites.Ā 
ā€œIā€™mā€¦ sorry your mom wasnā€™t good to you. Iā€™m extra sorry your dad wasā€¦ā€ she sighed. ā€œI guess adults really let you down a lot. Iā€™m sorry.ā€
He shrugged and swallowed back his huge mouthful of ice cream. And then he felt the brain freeze and cupped his head. ā€œAuuuugh there it is! Brain freeze!ā€
She hummed a laugh and rubbed his shell. ā€œYouā€™re trying to avoid talking. You wanna seem like a happy normal kid donā€™t you? Youā€™re putting on an act.ā€
That hurt more than the brain freeze.
He groaned and kept holding his head as it passed, she was holding him to distract from the hurt in his brain.
ā€œHow do you know Iā€™m acting! Maybe Iā€™m just immature!ā€
ā€œMaybe. But maybe you know youā€™re hurting and you donā€™t wanna make it my problem for some reason.ā€
He furrowed his brow and looked away.
ā€œIs it cuz you think Iā€™m like your kid? Cuz reallyā€¦ I really donā€™t see me like that Mikeyā€¦ā€
ā€œNo, itā€™s not that..ā€ he sighed. He wasnā€™t sure what it was. Heā€™d been able to talk to Donnie, heā€™d wanted to talk to Leo. But Jennika was actually asking him how he felt and he could only sit there thinking of ways to seem like he was a baby again. Ways to try and seem normal, like a good kid brother who makes her want to take care of him normally, so he wouldnā€™t scare her off, or traumatize her!
Ohā€¦
ā€œItā€™s cuz you make me think of Raphā€¦ā€
She took a deep breath and nodded knowingly, sighing.
ā€œYou donā€™t talk to him about how you feel. You just go baby made. So you wanna do that with me too.ā€
ā€œIā€™m sorryā€¦ Iā€™ve got issues. People think I donā€™t butā€¦ā€ he sighed. ā€œI donā€™t know..ā€
She patted his back. ā€œI'm not Raph. Iā€™m not your mom. Iā€™m your cooool big sister! And I know youā€™ve got issues, Iā€™m open, Iā€™m here. Hit me.ā€
He looked up at her nervously.
ā€œIā€¦ā€ he looked around. It was really empty here. He decided to lay his head in her lap. ā€œIs this okay..?ā€
He felt her hand gently stroke his head. ā€œYeah, thatā€™s okay..ā€
He took a few deep breaths. ā€œI keep thinking about the cagesā€¦ about.. what happened. Iā€™m really embarrassed about it, and ashamed of myselfā€¦ itā€™s stupid cuz I know itā€™s not my fault, but the.. specifics of what hurt me was all related to this..ā€ he sighed and closed his eyes. ā€œWeird relationship I have with him, where I try to let him be my mom cuz I never had one. And maybe itā€™s cuz heā€™s female and I imprinted on him as a baby, or maybe itā€™s just cuz I was so small and he was so worried about me.. but theā€¦ the mixing of these two things in my head, the 'mama Raph' and the fact Iā€¦.ā€ He felt tears rolling down his cheeks and he sobbed audibly. It was getting uncontrollable.
She just rubbed his head. He heard her sniff but didnā€™t look up. He just let her pet him and tried to collect himself.
ā€œI-Iā€™m sorry, I donā€™tā€¦ know what to do, I know youā€™re notā€¦ but Iā€™d never even seen my body before my dad made me use it against my will, a-and so Iā€™m just.. b-back to baby mode, h-hoping I never grow up and have to think about it againā€¦ā€
ā€œGodā€¦ Mikey Iā€™m fucking sorry, that sounds like so muchā€¦ā€ she was probably crying but kept petting him. He wasnā€™t sure how to respond now. ā€œIā€¦ I think it sounds like you know you shouldnā€™t do that. That youā€™re likeā€¦ pushing stuff down to make yourself seem okay. I think maybe you wanna be worried about normally just so you feel normal, maybe thatā€™s why youā€™re acting like thatā€¦ā€ he chanced a look up at her. She might have looked like him, but the way she was crying over him made her look like Raph. So he was crying in her lap quietly.
He looked away and clutched the fabric of her pants. ā€œIā€™m.. not trying to act outā€¦ I just really donā€™t want these grown up problems, I-I wanna worry about stupid stuff, n-not wake up with my thing out cuz I h-had a nightmareā€¦ā€
She took a deep shaky breath and blew it out slowly. ā€œWe donā€™t get to choose to not grow up. I know why you want to? But look at me. If I could have stayed a kid forever I probably would have. I hated puberty. Being a grown up sucks. But you canā€™t stop it. And youā€™ve gotten forced into the worst thing, but it doesnā€™t make you grown up, it just.. means you have to deal with something complicated. I... think ignoring that kinda problem wonā€™t make it go away, and if you need to talk to someone about.. all that gross complicated stuff youā€™re scared of, Iā€™m here. Iā€™ve had lots of weird feelings over the years, going from like.. weapon to person, boy to girl.. you can tell me more if you want. Maybe Iā€™ll get it.ā€
Mikey sat up and wiped his eyes. ā€œI.. I havenā€™t even been asking about you, Iā€™m so sorry Jennikaā€¦ā€
She smiled sadly and draped her arm over his shoulder, pulling him close and giving him a gentle shake. ā€œNo, itā€™s fine! Youā€™re having a bad day. I wanna help with that, donā€™t worry about me at all.ā€
He looked up at her sadly, pressing his head against her chest.
ā€œI-itā€™s weird.. if Iā€™m not your dad, that probably means Raphā€™s not your mom right..?ā€
She sighed and looked at the lake. ā€œNoā€¦ heā€™s not. Itā€™s kinda complicated, cuz thereā€™s a piece of my heart that still.. I dunno, craves a mom? So thatā€™s why I was so weird when he called me beautifulā€¦ but heā€™s not, heā€™s my brother just like you are.ā€
He looked over at the lake. ā€œIs it weird that I think of him as my mom..?ā€
ā€œNoā€¦ Not at all, I get it. Heā€™s been your caretaker, and he likes doing that.ā€
Mikey nodded slowly. ā€œThen.. you get why itsā€¦ fucking with my head that Iā€™ll dream about the cage, and wake up like that.. why I feel sick to my stomach about itā€¦ā€
ā€œGod, yeah I get thatā€¦ I would be scared.ā€
ā€œAnd I canā€™t cry to him about it, cuz itā€™s about himā€¦ā€
She nodded slowly. ā€œAnd that would make it worse.. yeah. Iā€™m sorry Mikeyā€¦ā€ she rubbed his shoulder. ā€œOkay.. so this will be weird no matter what, but like.. you had the bird and bees talk? And any other talks about your body and stuff..?ā€
He looked up at her and shrugged sadly. ā€œHow much talk needed? We already made you.. think I get where babies come fromā€¦ā€
She looked down at him sadly and then gently rubbed his head. ā€œOh.. buddy that doesnā€™t mean you know everything. Did Splinter neverā€¦?ā€
He looked away. ā€œMaybe she tried. Maybe I ran away. I donā€™t know, I donā€™t rememberā€¦ā€
She nodded and kept rubbing his head. ā€œOkay. Letā€™s jump past babies and stuff. I think what youā€™re describing is like a sex dream, and itā€™s one youā€™re having cuz you got forced into it. A trauma dream, making you relive the only time youā€™ve ever felt arousal. You canā€™t control it, it's not your fault, itā€™s a natural response. It doesnā€™t mean you actually feel aroused by Raph, that you actually want him like that. Itā€™sā€¦ ugh Iā€™m sorry. Consent is a better place to maybe start this. Consent and body autonomy and finding a partner you trustā€¦?ā€ She shifted a little.
He looked up. She seemed a little frustrated that she couldnā€™t find the words.
He sighed and idly squeezed her knee. ā€œI know what youā€™re trying to say. That I was raped. That I raped Raph but I didnā€™t, that he raped me but he didntā€¦ dad raped us. Used us to rape each other. Iā€¦ I know that.ā€
She looked down at him sadly, clearly sad about how much he was using the word. But he should be allowed to say it over and over again!
ā€œYeahā€¦ā€
ā€œIā€™m too young for sex. I donā€™t want a sex partner or whatever. I donā€™t want to have to worry about that, but Iā€™m scared that Iā€™mā€¦ā€ he keeled over and started crying out of nowhere. ā€œI-I think maybe when I was little dad raped me too..? W-when Lita.. I-I canā€™t remember itā€¦ sh-she said I saw something I w-wasnā€™t supposed toā€¦ sh-she seemed so fucking sorryā€¦ a-and thatā€™s all Iā€™ve been thinking about for a weekā€¦ a-and nobody cares!ā€
Jennika gently shook him and she was crying too. ā€œI care! Fuck Mikey I care so much, Iā€™m so fucking sorry!ā€
ā€œE-everyoneā€™s been tiptoeing around it! L-like around Raph! A-and maybe I wanted to go to therapy and talk about it! T-talk to Lita! Get more information! B-but there was theā€¦ th-the YOU situation! A-and he was traumatized enough! A-and now Big Mama is evil and I-I canā€™t!ā€
She took a deep shaky break and wrapped her arms around him and pulled him in her lap for a hug. He let her as he sobbed against her chest. ā€œWe donā€™t need her to do that. We can figure it out without her, we can find ways of dealing with it. God Mikey youā€™ve been so fuckingā€¦ Iā€™m sorry. Everything is so fucked up but I fucking promise you thatā€™s my priority okay? Weā€™re gonna help you with that.ā€
Mikey was clinging to her shirt and sobbing into it. He nodded miserably as he cried. ā€œI-Iā€™m sorry.. I-I keep forgetting t-to bring it up c-cuz I only I-learned about it when y-you were b-born! B-but that was like a week ago! A-and thatā€™s its whole own thing! A-and Iā€™m too fucked up t-to think about it!ā€
She held him tight and pressed her head against his.
ā€œFuckā€¦ youā€™ve been keeping so much in thereā€¦ā€ She pulled back to cup his cheeks in her hands and smile determined at him, tears still freely falling down her face. He sniffled and shook as he looked back at her. ā€œYou donā€™t need to worry about any of this other stuff. No villains no brothers no fucking weird turtles coming back from the future. Your priority is Mikey. And soā€™s mine. Weā€™re gonna figure it out. You and me. Weā€™re gonna talk it out one step at a time together. Anything you fucking need Iā€™m here, okay?ā€
He put his hands on hers, he was struggling to breathe through the crying. This wasnā€™t his usual crying, he felt fucking broken. His whole body hurt from how hard he was crying.
And it felt good. To fucking scream and yell and cry about how miserable he REALLY was, and to feel seen for it. To feel cared for about it.
So he shakily nodded and kept crying in her face.
She held him again. This wasnā€™t like how Raph would make him feel at all, this wasnā€™t a mom thing. This wasnā€™t a ā€˜push my feelings down and pretend youā€™re normalā€™ upset thing. This was just a sibling really fucking seeing him and letting him be as big of a wreck as he needed. Someone he wasnā€™t scared of making the problems worse of.
Maybe she was exactly what he needed right now.
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devildom-moss Ā· 2 years ago
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Im not sure if requests are open yet since you havent announced it yet but said they were gonna open at midnight.
So I'll just drop this here since I'll probably forget to request because of exams.
Could you write about the Obey me characters become self-aware that they aren't like, real? Like, would they freak out, try to do something about it or even use that knowledge to their advantage?
This idea has been on my list for quite a while, and i gotta say im glad to finally be able to let this one out my system.
Thanks for reading and continue with the amazing work! Remember to eat, sleep and dont do drugs <3
Sincerely, šŸ’œ
Thank you for the request! I hope you are well, anon. I went with headcanons for this and it got long real quick, but I hope you enjoy it! Some characters are a bit suggestive.
The Obey Me characters become self-aware
I think it would probably happen because of some curse. Diavolo rejected someoneā€™s advances one too many times, and they wanted to watch him as his world came crashing down. It would come in the form of a weird bug in the latest update. It only affects Diavolo and his loved ones/friends. I think being self-aware would give them some control over themselves in the game ā€“ especially if itā€™s caused by a bug. The rest are headcanons about how I think each character would react.
Lucifer
Lucifer would be big mad that someone thought they should do something like this. He felt so much suffering, and to find out that none of it was real would be devastating. He thought he got his sister killed and ruined the lives of his brothers. The fact that it was just some backstory to a stoic, sadistic daddy-like trope would enrage him. He felt like a used-up toy invented for someone elseā€™s gain (and he knows thatā€™s exactly what he is). Lucifer wants revenge.
Honestly, he needs to chill before he makes another Satan ā€“ if thatā€™s even possible without the command of his creators. Heā€™ll lash out at everyone for weeks (probably months) ā€“ even Diavolo isnā€™t safe anymore.
He calls MCā€™s phone, growing increasingly irritable every time they fail to answer (waiting however long it takes for you to open the game). He just wants someone to confirm his realization.
Once he understands, he tries to take the shitty hand he was dealt; he might as well stroke his pride (also a euphemism here). The thought that he could make you fall for him more than real-world men is a decent coping mechanism. His messages and calls take an extremely lewd turn. Lucifer tries to single-handedly change the game rating to mature or adult-only.
However, he still gets angry about it when MC isnā€™t logged in.
Part of him hopes heā€™ll always be self-aware. Itā€™s almost like heā€™s more alive than ever ā€“ even though it hurts and heā€™s angry. Youā€™re the only thing that soothes him. He wonā€™t know how to keep going if/when you eventually stop playing the game, but heā€™ll try to tackle it then ā€“ at least for the sake of his brothers.
Mammon
Self-awareness breaks Mammon a bit.
His money isnā€™t really. He can never actually be with you. Youā€™ll go on and live a life without him someday. Anyone real who has ever loved him will disappear. Mammon isnā€™t even sure he is who he is. Maybe if he wasnā€™t written this way, he wouldnā€™t have become like this ā€“ but if he wasnā€™t written this way, would he (the him that exists in a game and feels the pain of self-awareness) even be himself? His head starts to hurt from running through all of the hypotheticals.
Mammon sulks and gets stuck in his room for a long time after that. MC or one of his brothers will probably have to pull him out of it.
At least his debts arenā€™t technically real ā€“ and he will try to use that as an excuse in the future against anyone else who has awareness. Unfortunately, that (his debts and his excuse) still results in in-game consequences. Debt collectors and witches donā€™t know any better, and Lucifer doesnā€™t want to be constantly reminded of reality. If only being self-aware made being strung up less painful.
He feels betrayed by MC and the idea that they will inevitably move beyond him. That pain corrupts his coding a bit, and something always feels off within him somewhere.
Mammon will get more desperate and needy whenever you log in. If heā€™s going to lose you at some point, he wants to monopolize your time as much as he can.
Sometimes he just holds MC and sobs while trying to call you and hear your real voice. He feels so empty. He wants to touch the real you and feel your arms around him.
Leviathan
The first thoughts in his mind switch up so quickly. He goes from ā€œIā€™m a game character? LOL thatā€™s so cool,ā€ to ā€œI could have been anything, and Iā€™m just this pathetic, otaku loser. That sucks.ā€
Levi has always been able to adapt pretty well. Itā€™s written into his character. He builds all of these fake worlds for himself, so itā€™s much easier on him when he finds out that the world he had been trying to escape all his life isnā€™t real. Out of all of his brothers, he initially copes with the realization the best.
As long as he can go on playing games, he doesnā€™t really care if heā€™s real. Somehow, he still enjoys getting lost in all of his game worlds; what he used to consider the ā€œreal worldā€ becomes just another game to him (because it is one). It makes being social easier for him, especially when MC is logged in.
He takes interest in what kind of games the real world has to offer, often asking if thereā€™s any way you could set it up so he could try to remotely play real games from the app heā€™s in. If anyone could figure out how to hack your phone to play real games, it should be him.
Levi canā€™t imagine a day when he stops loving characters from his games, so it doesnā€™t occur to him that one day you might stop loving him. It will hit him some day, but that will take time, and when it starts to happen, heā€™ll lose himself completely in the rest of the digital world. Heā€™ll be so numb and tuned out that the sadness canā€™t reach him.
Satan
ā€œBut are cats still real?ā€ Genuinely, the only thing he cares about is if cats and MC are still real. He doesnā€™t care if you look different than he expected, either. If cats are real, is there any way you could show him pictures of a real one? Heā€™d probably ask if he could get access to your camera roll (cue the system pop-up screen the next time you log in) and if you could fill it with photos of cats and some selfies.
At least not being real explains why his life has felt so shitty and why his formative years sucked. Writers love to give their characters tragic backstories and flaws (like his rage issues). Satan kind of admires the writing.
However, he is disappointed that so much of his knowledge is only useful in his tiny, little, made-up world. As such, he keeps learning, but he also tries to shift his studying to learn more about the real world. If possible, he tries to get the app to get access to e-readers, audiobooks, and the internet.
He gets mad about it sometimes, but heā€™s pretty chill about it (all things considered).
Satan understands that in the same way that he pushes certain characters that he falls in love with from books to the back of his mind, eventually, youā€™ll think of him less and less. As such, he tries to learn as much as possible, treat you well, and impress you in-game. He just wants you to occasionally think about him after you set the game down in the same way he remembers his favorite characters fondly.
Asmodeus
Asmo loses it and is one of the characters who has the hardest time with becoming self-aware. All his charm is fake. All of his followers are lies. The love heā€™s felt all this time has been made up. Please donā€™t show him certain depictions of what he is supposed to look like. That will crush him further.
He cries for (real-world) weeks. You wonā€™t be able to set him as a home screen character or use him in battles, and he doesnā€™t appear in events anymore. Eventually, it makes his way to him that MC misses him. If you donā€™t youā€™re heartless, his brothers will tell him that you do anyway.
That makes him feel a bit better. Heā€™s consoled by the fact that youā€™re real and you like him even though he isnā€™t real, but heā€™s constantly afraid of what happens when MC stops playing the game. Does he just suffer the false affection of every other character in the game? Should he just play his stupid little role? Will you ever think about him again? Will anyone?
At least someone loved the idea that became him enough for him to exist in this made-up world on your phone. It isnā€™t enough, though.
Sometimes, when he appears in-game after that, the app forces itself to shut down or the images of Asmo wonā€™t load or glitch from his extreme despair.
On days when he isnā€™t so weighed down by pain, he tries to genuinely engage with you like he did before. Heā€™ll ask you to open up your camera so he can help you decide on outfits or make-up. It hurts that he canā€™t actually touch you (although he does do some research into phone connected vibrators and other tech to supplement his physical touch). Heā€™ll also get into the phone sex territory, but heā€™ll go through long periods of depression between those moments.
Beelzebub
Beel gets angry that everything he went through was at the expense of some game. His sister died. Belphie almost died. Everyone suffered, and for what? Entertainment? Are real people all so wicked?
At the same time, he also gets his brothers because of a game. He overcame and grew and got to meet you and eat food for the same empty reasons. After he has a bit of time to cool off, he realizes that he doesnā€™t care about whatā€™s real so long as he still feels what he feels. If the world heā€™s lived in feels real enough to him, who cares?
Unfortunately, Beel feels hungrier than usual for weeks until he accepts the truth of his situation. He even tries to eat MC a few times (and is grateful that doing so in-game would never hurt the real you behind the screen).
Beelā€™s fairly content to go on living as he had before after a while. Heā€™s a bit disappointed knowing that one day youā€™ll move on from him and his brothers, but he tries not to show that. More than anything, he wants to make you ā€“ the real you ā€“ happy for as long as he can.
Heā€™s another one who will try to get access to your camera roll. Heā€™ll ask you to take pictures of your food for him. Beel is a bit embarrassed by it, but if you go to a cafĆ© or restaurant alone and take pictures of food to send him, heā€™ll try to text you or call to chat with you while youā€™re there. It feels like heā€™s on a real date with you.
And for everyone who just lusts after his voice, rest assured, this man would definitely call or leave voice messages (Nightbringer) guiding you or giving you masturbation instructions.
Belphegor
Yep. Of course. Sounds about right. Some asshole in a writersā€™ room killed off his sister and locked him up. Cool. They (*spoilers for OM early lessons and OMNB*) made him try to kill MC more than once. Why not use his character as a pawn in their entertainment. Of course that would happen.
Heā€™s annoyed for a brief minute, but then he just goes back to sleep for a while. It helps to just tune out that awareness for a few hours and ignore the fake world heā€™s living in. Belphie understands that there isnā€™t much he can do to change the fact that he isnā€™t real, and part of him is really happy that it isnā€™t his fault that he did what he did to you.
Belphie uses not being real as an excuse to do more of what he wants. Why should he keep going to school when you arenā€™t there if nothing is real? Why shouldnā€™t he sleep in classes or during meetings? Obviously, there are in-game consequences, but those donā€™t matter ā€“ not to anyone real.
He will tease MC more, reminding him that they prefer him over (most) real people. He gets so cocky about it. ā€œHey, if Iā€™m not real, then I can give you anything you want, right? I could fulfill your wildest fantasies and tell you everything youā€™ve ever wanted to hear.ā€
Heā€™s another character who will call your phone more often and send more messages. Belphie may even try to get access to your audio/music library and leave you explicit audios (NSFW ASMR, basically). He would even try to sneakily add them into your playlists so that you randomly hear his voice while youā€™re listening to music. He wants you flustered and coming back to him for more. He will also download the Obey Me album for you (free of charge). Please donā€™t leave him or forget him.
Diavolo
Diavolo feels simultaneously enraged and defeated. He did so much for the sake of what he thought was real. All the years he thought he spent trying to bring worlds together, only to discover that they donā€™t even exist.
Similar to Asmo, Diavolo locks himself away, but he doesnā€™t cry. Heā€™s too numb to show any emotions. He just stands in front of his bed, immobilized.
If MC can finally get to him (probably because of Barbatos), he will admit that he feels like a different person ā€“ because he isnā€™t a person. So much of his personality and everything he did seemed to be a part of a stupid effort to unite the three realms. All he was feels like just a thing created to accomplish a pointless goal. He lost his family. He felt alone for so long. He thought he suffered ā€“ and all of it amounted to nothing but a dummy prince playing a dummy king.
Diavolo doesnā€™t really know how to keep going. Eventually he figures maybe itā€™s just best if he tries to move on as usual. At least the developers gave him a few happy moments ā€“ maybe heā€™ll get more. He can still feel them even if they arenā€™t real. He has to accept what he canā€™t change. Heā€™ll have to face it.
Heā€™ll rely on Lucifer and Barbatos for comfort more because, when MC isnā€™t around, the numbness he felt early encroaches upon him. When you do log in, he greets you like a lost puppy ā€“ sometimes appearing on the home screen without being selected. He uses the fact that you are the only real thing in his world as an anchor. In exchange for becoming his coping mechanism, heā€™ll do anything you ask of him.
The smallest part of him wants you to want him more than real humans, and as such, he inevitably ends up taking an adult-only content turn, too. It just takes him a lot longer to get there.
Barbatos
Barbatos dissociates for a while. Somehow his body keeps performing the day-to-day tasks, but the sudden self-awareness hollows him out. It takes a few days for him to come out of it. One day, you log into the game, and he just wakes up. Itā€™s confusing and disorienting, and all he can do to keep himself steady is grab onto MC, knowing that the gesture and even the body he holds ā€“ everything ā€“ is hollow.
After that, he just picks up and goes on going. Something in him aches ā€“ real or not ā€“ but he buries it deep under him, shoving that artificial pain into the newly-created emptiness (or, he supposes, it had always been there, but now he knows itā€™s there).
Barbatos doesnā€™t want to think about all of the things he thought he had done to get to where he is now. Still, no wonder he always felt his own past seemed vague and cloudy at times. When it becomes too much, he dissociates again.
He uses MC to make himself feel better and almost real again. Heā€™ll send messages to check up on you every once in a while (He might also invade your privacy and hack into your health info or personal conversations to make sure youā€™re okay). As much as he feels like he needs you, he doesnā€™t want to disrupt your real life.
Barbatos doesnā€™t want to, but if you neglect the game for longer than usual or donā€™t interact with his character, heā€™ll let it slip that he needs you ā€“ that heā€™s desperate for you to return, and youā€™re the only thing holding his faulty coding together.
His calls are less frequent, unless you request them, but heā€™s another one who turns +18 real quick. Even if he isnā€™t real, he still feels lust bubbling up in that emptiness, and if he can please you, thatā€™s even better.
Luke
Luke feels immediately lost. Without knowing what else can be done, he breaks down and cries. Maybe if he cries enough, the pain of not being real will leave his body.
It makes him question everything. He wasted so much time fearing demons and admiring angels. It didnā€™t mean anything. Eventually, heā€™ll ask you if angels and demons exist in the real world, but that happens randomly after he comes to terms with being a character.
Maybe crying is a good coping mechanism in fiction, too, because Luke handles it better than many of the others. He had to change how he viewed the world and ā€œpeopleā€ so many times throughout the game. One more big shift in perspective wonā€™t kill him (technically, nothing will, unless the game developers tried to kill him off).
Luke understands that there isnā€™t anything he can do about not being real ā€“ no amount of magic or prayer or wishing can make him real. Despite him being fake, you were still there for him throughout the game. He still feels all the love he has for MC and the other characters. If he loves MC, then he cares about the real person playing MC, too, right?
Luke copes by doing his best to help you out in the real world. He wants to bring you joy somehow. Heā€™ll leave you voice messages encouraging you to try your best and heā€™ll listen to you vent if you want to. Heā€™ll also try to find cute pictures online and send them to your phone or send you recipes for dishes you can try to cook. He will even offer to call and read baking instructions out for you. All he wants now is to be useful to you and find some of the joy he had before he became self-aware.
Simeon
Simeon is angry at first, and then he just feels hurt. All that regret and pain he felt when Lucifer and his brothers left the Celestial Realm didnā€™t matter. He spent what felt like so long agonizing over his own failures. He could have just tried to be happy the whole time. Everyone could have been happy (but he knows that would have made for a bad story).
It doesnā€™t take long for the anger and the hurt to be replaced with intrigue. Someone out there wrote the story that caused him and everyone he loves so much pain, but they also wrote in plenty of well-earned joy.
Simeon wonders if thereā€™s some real person out there who wrote part of themselves into him like his character did with the brothers and TSL. Maybe thereā€™s some person sitting in a writersā€™ room or in their own home who understands all of the ways his love got tangled up in regret ā€“ someone real who failed to save the ones they loved. If there is, maybe at least some part of him is real.
He wants MC to continue to visit him for as long as they can. As such, he tries to be even nicer and more comforting in dialogues so that theyā€™ll want to keep playing.
Some of his guilt for lusting after MC is eased, knowing it was written into him. He was, in a way, destined to fall for MC. However, heā€™s more curious about the real human behind MC. At least some of you has to be like the MC he loves, right? Maybe he actually loves the person behind the screen more. With that thought in his mind, heā€™ll try to get to know the real you better, and if he still likes you, heā€™ll take the same path as many of the other characters. If only he could actually touch you.
Solomon
Solomon is hurt and confused; heā€™s downright crushed.
He was supposed to know everything and now he seems to know nothing ā€“ nothing real at least. All of his experiments and studying mean nothing. After becoming self-aware, he will grit his teeth and feel sick at the name ā€œSolomon the Wise.ā€ Itā€™s a sick joke. All of his magic and skills are a farce. Everything he thought he knew and did was a story.
He suffered a lot for this game, and now that he finally has MC to himself in Nightbringer, he finds out that heā€™s fake. He doesnā€™t actually have them. Theyā€™re real, and heā€™s some romanceable character in a silly little game that they decided to download (possibly on a whim). How is it fair that he isnā€™t real, but he can still feel all this pain?
When you log into the game and interact with him, he still feels the same love he felt before. The nervous butterflies are still there. A familiar heat still comes to his cheeks when MC touches him ā€“ even if he knows it isnā€™t really you touching him.
He tries to make peace with his circumstances. At least he never really put MC in danger. Youā€™ve been safe behind that screen the whole time. Solomon wonders if youā€™re taking care of yourself constantly whenever youā€™re gone.
Like Simeon, he wants to try falling in love with the real you. Heā€™ll use interacting with you and learning more about you and the real world to distract from the pain. He wants to find a way to become real and exist with you out there. Even if he never can, he wants to cling to you for as long as youā€™ll let him.
Thirteen
She is annoyed to have learned that she isnā€™t real, but sheā€™s also kind of happy at the potential to break from her coding and try to be something entirely new. She was designed to be a free spirit. Other than being real, thereā€™s nothing freer than an NPC who gets to do whatever they please.
After thinking about it, it makes sense now why she seemed to be one of the only girls with a critical, recurring role in the game. Thank goodness for the bisexuals, right?
Thirteen likes knowing she has all the time in the world to plan traps and mess around, but sheā€™s a bit bummed that her profession is basically meaningless now.
The main reason why Thirteen isnā€™t too bothered by becoming self-aware is because she knows that what she has experienced throughout the game has felt real to her. Feeling like something is real makes it as close to reality as she knows she can get. That will have to be enough for her. Thereā€™s no point in getting depressed about it ā€“ especially when she barely existed a few seasons ago.
She uses this knowledge to start romancing MC (and the person behind the screen) before she should be able to. Sheā€™s in control now.
Thirteen will send you messages and call you for long chats. She just wants to enjoy you for as long as she can.
Raphael
Raphael will be livid. It will sporadically rain spears in the Devildom for 3 days before he is calm enough to make them stop. He feels attacked, and he doesnā€™t know who to strike back at. That was all he could think to do. Heā€™ll never apologize for his outburst, either ā€“ and no one who became self-aware can really blame him.
His life and loved ones arenā€™t real, but he can still feel the pain and regret about everything he did. He thought he went to war against Lucifer and his brothers, but it was just a stupid plot point for a dating game? He had to watch Simeon suffer and follow all of Michaelā€™s annoying orders for nothing. Why does he have to be cursed with that knowledge?
He loses his mind a bit. It takes the combined effort of Luke, Simeon, Solomon, and MC (in order of importance) to soothe some of his rage and suffering. Somehow, seeing Luke handle it relatively well knocks some sense into him. Luke is written to be younger than him, but heā€™s being so mature about this. Even with tears in his eyes, Luke will try to comfort Raphael ā€“ sometimes just hugging him until he stops shaking with rage.
When MC has logged off and Raphael can shut himself up in his room, he will break down and cry. It seemed to help Luke, and he wants it to help him, too.
It will take months for him to start to cope before he gets to a point where he decides to try to romance you through MC. At least he doesnā€™t have to worry about actually being corrupted. If anything, it feels like heā€™s corrupting you in a way if he can get you to want him. (Once he starts trying, he gets NSFW quickly. It numbs the pain.)
Mephistopheles
Mephisto is heartbroken to know he doesnā€™t exist. All his pain and jealousy was written at the whim of some human game developer. His prejudice and hatred were pointless. He doesnā€™t matter ā€“ although maybe that one is a relief in a way. He had been so worried about making a name for himself and being recognized by Diavolo. Suddenly, that doesnā€™t matter. Still, it feels like he wasted so much time and effort. It felt so real.
Heā€™ll retreat to his home for a few days to let that realization settle in. He wonā€™t tell his family (who werenā€™t cursed with self-awareness) ā€“ not that he thinks theyā€™ll believe him. When Mephisto finally reemerges, he has resolved to accept this new version of reality. One of the first characters he sees when he returns to school is Luke. Luke smiles at him, and Mephistoā€™s resolve is strengthened. If Luke can come to terms with this, then he should as well.
He may not be real, but he still feels things. That is enough. Sometimes it isnā€™t, and Mephisto will feel heartbroken all over again ā€“ the pointlessness washing over his fake little world. In those moments, he will seek out solace ā€“ usually from Luke, Satan, or MC/you (if you still play the game).
When Mephisto isnā€™t feeling hurt (hell, even when he is Mephi strikes me as a fan of hurt/comfort tropes) heā€™ll try to romance you before heā€™s allowed to. Recently, he had started to get along with you and even started to like and respect you a bit. In that sense, heā€™s glad that heā€™s self-aware. He doesnā€™t have to wait anymore.
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