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I just realized that my intro post said: "I do not want any endos using my terms. If you notice, tell me so I can blog them" or something like that.
I meant block! I hope it didn't seem like I was gonna expose them and put them on blast! I don't want to do that. I just want to block them so my terms aren't used by them.
#i do not condone harassment#sorry if it looked like that#its all fixed though!#systempunk#did system#endos dni#fictive heavy system#plural system#polyfrag system#TFSSL chats
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The Ultimate Compilation Callout Part 4
It has been confirmed that she is the General Lilia Vanrouge Blog.
So please block:
@/general-lilia-vanrouge
In confirming she is the General Vanrouge account, it has also been revealed that she is willing lie about her knowledge of everything happening (now that was expected), but also that she is willing to lie about her name and who she is to try to sneak back into an rp server full of minors (many of whom are 13-15 years of age) that she was previously kicked out of and also willing to lie about having a mental illness to try to avoid any and all culpability in her actions and behavior.
I. Am. Fuming.
I received a message on tumblr from someone that has been following the drama and has also supplied some proof of her past lies.
Ahhh but I needed proof of that. I can’t just go off hearsay.
But I have the power of an admin on my side.
When all this had been going down, the admin of my Discord server had given me the Malleus mod’s account numbers in order to ban her.
But I was a bit confused by the wording, and since they had used the word “ban” and not “block” and because I did not have Carl-bot, I thought the numbers would be useless.
But I was pissed and so I decided to give it a try in the search.
I am SO glad I didn’t block her.
Because LOOK who showed up when I searched with her current account number, just like this Tumblr user told me she would! Same name I was given and everything.
I was so… I was SO tempted at this point guys. I was SO TEMPTED to just�� reveal both her old Discord name and her new one. But I am trying to be the bigger person. I am trying so fucking hard not to reveal IDs unless given permission or they are already public. I had to tell myself numerous times that I do not condone harassment. Because I don’t. I don’t. I DON’T. But this woman. :) :) :) :) :) :)
Now. In this alt rp server, they are supposed to post their boundaries.
First of all, here is the proof that this list of “boundaries” is, in fact, posted by this woman.
Now. *takes a deep breath*
Here is the full thing.
So, first of all, there is the confirmation that she is indeed the mod of the General Lilia Vanrouge account.
Second of all, she NEVER WANTS THE CURRENT TUMBLR DRAMA (that she knows NOTHING about!) BROUGHT UP TO HER. Oh, I’m sure you fucking don’t sweetie.
Third, she says to not interact if you’re a minor. I put that as a giant ass red flag there for a reason - not because interacting with minors is wrong or bad necessarily, but because she is a hypocrite and I will call her on it in just a little bit but let’s get to the top thing that is really, personally, making me see red.
Finally, she is now suddenly, out of the blue, claiming that she has BPD (Borderline Personality Disorder) and therefore sometimes has mood swings, so “give her a little space.”
For those of you that have been paying attention, or have talked to me at all, I have my own mental health struggles. And I am, therefore, passionate about this topic.
In fact, Che’nya has, at times, slipped into an almost unofficial counselor role at times, simply because my empathy bleeds through so much when it comes to this.
And one thing that has always, always, pissed me off is when other people use mental illness as an excuse to explain away their shitty actions, behaviors, and attitudes.
Mental illness is not a fucking game. It’s not a joke. It’s not a coat or a mask you can slip on or off as you please to suit your needs.
You’re really going to sit over there and say you have BPD just to try to excuse all your shitty behavior? You’re really going to try to say “Oh, I know I was rude and disrespectful and cruel and demeaning to you - but I have BPD so maybe just give me some space okay?! You can’t blame me for my actions, I have a mental illness!!”
You’re really going to come out and say that when you have said nothing of the sort this entire time and were previously saying all your actions and bad behaviors could be blamed on the trauma of losing your child?
You’ve moved on from saying you lost your child to saying you have a severe mental disorder to excuse your actions.
Even if you do have a mental illness, and you aren’t just a lying, narcissistic piece of shit - you do not use your mental illness to explain away all of your behaviors and actions and get away with them with no consequences or repercussions.
To the SINGULAR MOD that owns the blogs of Malleus, General Lilia, Falena, Aijuka, Jack, Marja, Eric, Baul, Fellow, Meleanor, Sebek’s mother, twistedminds, and whatever other blogs you may come up with, from the bottom of my heart:
FUCK YOU.
*breathes deeply*
Okay.
Okay.
Alright.
I am calm.
…Calm enough.
Going back to the third thing, I said it was a MASSIVE red flag because she is a hypocrite of the highest caliber and I can prove it.
So let me just prove once again she has gone on record before saying she doesn’t interact with minors - especially minors as young as 13-15 of age.
At least, ACCORDING TO HER IN PUBLIC WHERE SHE CAN BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE……….
And then this was provided to me by the person who informed me of her trying to sneak back into their rp Discord server after she had been kicked out.
In this server, you need to assign yourself roles.
Considering she was booted and then attempted to sneak back in under a new Discord name and a revamped profile, she assigned herself roles twice.
She was at this role message twice.
She saw how many minors that were 13-15 years years of age are in that server twice.
She cannot claim ignorance of the ages of many of the members in that Discord server.
And yet she says “DNI minors”????? In a server she took the effort to SNEAK INTO?????
🚩🚩🚩
Hypocrite x10000 with just as many red flags to boot.
Now that discord is obviously okay with having older members interacting with minors, and that is their choice.
But it is one this to have everyone aware of the age boundaries so they can respect them, and another to have someone seem to be indicating that they either don’t know of the minors in the discord or are just being plain hypocritical and posting that but not actually caring.
Which… no matter which way you look at it, both options can be quite dangerous, sketchy, and, to put it frankly, can make it uncomfortable for minors. To treat minors as you would adults like yourself… yeah no.
So while that DNI itself is not a red flag, the IMPLICATIONS BEHIND IT for the discord she is in while posting it are. And the fact that she SNUCK BACK INTO IT makes it EVEN WORSE.
As the messager said in their very first message to me, a lot of them found it extremely creepy.
And I 100% do not blame them.
This woman needs to just fucking stop. Or at least leave the twst rp community, as much as I wouldn’t wish her on anyone else. I just want her gone.
EDITED TO CORRECT!
So that I am not accused of spreading misinformation, I was told by the OG messenger that I slightly misunderstood the place she snuck into. She snuck into a second twst discord server of theirs. That was my mistake and I apologize.
Direct quote from tumblr messager’s DM to me -
“Server 1: she simply rped & acted weird and got banned
Server 2: she joined under a different name but with the same account, saw how many minors it had, indirectly lied about who she is & we banned her”
So there were two separate servers, which explains how she was banned in the first server but still managed to sneak into the second server.
Apologies for that mix up!
The Ultimate Compilation Callout
Hey Guys! AR OOC once again to say I am 100% done.
I'm done with this. I thought it was finally dying down and the drama was finally getting to be over with but then she came back and is now trying to say that we are the ones in the wrong. And she is STILL trying to blame Leona's mod when, as both @/castaway-achlys and I have stated numerous times at this point, they were asleep during the entire event. They did not ask for us to defend them. We were both just tired of hearing our friend be exhausted and stressed out by her.
And the fact that so many people have come out to give their own experiences of her being rude and cruel to them just proves this is not a singular event.
I'm putting all this under a cut because it's gonna get long guys. In fact, I’m probably going to end up needing to create a couple reblog chains to get it all out.
But I'm done playing nice. I have all the receipts. Like I went allllll the way back to when the discord was first created. I caught her in her first lie.
Which, coincidentally, her very first lie in the Discord server happened on the very first day it was formed. What a way to start.
I call her the Malleus mod as an identifier in these screenshots, because unlike her, I am not petty enough to reveal peoples’ personal information on the internet just because I don’t like them.
HOWEVER. I will remind everyone that she is not JUST the owner of the Malleus account. Even if you don’t want to look under the read more because there are a LOT of receipts, know that these are all her known blogs.
I do not condone harassment. Harassment is basically what started all this. Just block and go.
Malleus Draconia @/therealmalleusdraconia
Falena Kingscholar @/the-falena-kingscholar
Aijuka (A Leona gf OC) @/the-one-aijuka
Jack Howl @/frosh-jack-howl
Fellow Honest @/fellow-honest
Meleanor Draconia @/meleanor-draconia
Baul Zigvolt @/baul-zigvolt
Sebek’s Mother @/thethickestone
Marja Felmier @/marja-felmier
And her latest: Eric Venue @/ericvenue
(Bonus non-rp blog @/thetwistedminds)
Before we get too far into it I will say there is a slight color code! But only a tiny one!
Gross light green color - look at that lie! 👀
Gross darker green color - a lie is revealed! 🤭
Orange - note the date/time! 🗓️⏰
Let me show you what I mean in the lie I’ve already mentioned - her very first one. :)
There we have the orange, telling you to note the date. That’s because I was wanting to make sure it was known that the pet posts were made on the same date that the discord was created.
And then we have the gross light green around Malleus mod claiming that this bunny is her bunny and that it was her bunny’s birthday recently.
Now here is the follow up with the gross darker green of a lie revealed. 😌
And there we have it! The color coding system and her very first lie told the very first day the Discord channel was active and easily disproven with an image search.
Now let’s get into the FUN STUFF! /sarc
We’re going to be doing some rehashing here but I’m also going to probably be including some new things so stay with me folks! This’ll be a ride! Buckle up!
So, originally I was thinking I'd start with the current drama. But considering that a lot of that has already been covered and what hasn't been covered needs more context, I'm just going to keep going in chronological order, I guess.
I've been up for over 24 hours compiling receipts, editing them to protect IDs, and then getting them all sorted so let's finally do this so I can pass out!
First up is something that actually has been covered a bit but I'm going to expand on it slightly - her blatant lie to @/elysia-nsimp (I'm not tagging anyone because I'm not forcing anyone to get notifications on this lmao).
Here's what everyone has already seen. But to expand on the event, we didn't call her out on her bad behavior, even though we probably should have as she had just lied straight to another mod's face about her blog ownership. I simply DM'd the mod in question privately to make sure they were okay and then tried to keep the peace in the main chat.
Because, believe it or not with this major callout post, I don't generally like confrontation. But I stepped in there for Elysia and I stepped up during this for Leona's mod.
Now, later that night, she posts this as if nothing had happened and she hadn't just been told that she needed to work on her roleplaying skills:
Uh huh. Sure. That's your last account. Because you have shown so much self-control when it comes to filling character voids within the twst rp community already. I'll be generous and give you a month before you break.
Now these next ones need a tiny bit of background information and a note: the Malleus mod is German and, as far as we know, lives in Germany. These next pictures are little indicators that she has not experienced the United States at all. These indicators may not seem important now, but they will be in just a little time. So keep them in mind for after the pause.
You cannot tell me anyone who has spent any length of time in the United States has not at least heard of Walmart.
Quick pitstop to say wow! You didn't even make it a month! Congratulations!
Also, note the question from the admin and the pretty obvious passive aggressiveness from me. We were sending plenty of hints that they needed to stop - sometimes coming outright and saying it, sometimes simply implying. Either way, we were all ignored.
She says she's not a mind reader. Well, apparently she's just not a reader period.
Now... a bit of an oddball here. And I want to say I do not necessarily think this is a lie. I am including it for a lie that is coming. The one that I included all those America comments for.
I'm sure you will note that I said that I don't "necessarily think" it's a lie - indicating that I do think it could be a possibility. That would be correct.
She has been lying since day one and, after this doozy of a story I'm about to share with you, I honestly don't know what to believe when it comes to her.
So.. to sum this up...
We went from a cringe ask from an OC account that she didn't want to answer -> the asker wasn't supposed to be on tumblr because they were underage (???) and was trying to date her irl and somehow had all of her information (oh but don't worry guys she deleted the ask!) -> he found her social media accounts and sent her NSFW pictures and started spam liking, demanding pictures of her kids, sent pictures of her at-the-time boyfriend, sent pictures of his family and his kids -> so she blocked him on everything and then started spam creating the rp accounts to see if he did it with other people or if it was just her (...mmmhmmm...) but nope he was only interested in Malleus -> she then apparently moved to America for a bit to crash with her boyfriend because this underage person went to Germany to find he.
Oh, by the way, why was this guy obsessed with her? Oh, he was obsessed with German women. He decided that all German women were pretty. And she's German-Russian! And Russians have intense standards for women you know! After this guy found out she was German AND Russian, I mean... it was only a matter of time before he upped his game to try to find her!
Guys, she's not saying she's too beautiful for her own good - the underage stalker speaks for itself!
Now, since this stalker found her through her Malleus account and was obviously very determined, you would think the first course of action would be to, ya know, delete the Malleus blog. Right?
No, no, no! Then she would have to start all over and, of course, if she switched accounts she would be forced to make a post on her current blog saying what her new blog is and he would just find her there. That's why she's trying to make her other accounts more active than her Malleus account (her Malleus account was still, by far, before all this happened, the most popular of all her rp blogs)!
Can I also mention that in that post announcing her pregnancy ON HER MALLEUS ACCOUNT WHERE SHE SUPPOSEDLY HAS A STALKER, she had tagged ALL OF HER BLOGS AT THE TIME?
But yes, Malleus mod. I definitely believe your story. :)
Please. Please tell me you all can understand why I just cannot find it in me to trust a single word coming out of this woman's mouth.
Especially now that during this whole drama, she has been lying through her teeth and trying to pin the entire blame on Leona's mod.
Now this part is nearly over (thank whatever gods anyone believes in) but let's just post the last few of the "before drama happened" pictures, shall we?
...I'm realizing I didn't underline the part where I called her out for having that many blogs in the gross dark green of a lie caught... oops. This is what happens when you have far too little sleep.
But either way, here is another time when she was called out on a lie of hers. And her little comment at the end means she read it and she acknowledged us.
She just didn't care because it didn't suit her.
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ALRIGHT!
THAT'S THE END OF PART ONE!
Yeah. This is going to come out in PARTS. I can't cover it all in one post because there is a picture limit.
So, I'm going to end up making a reblog chain...
Eventually.
Real talk? I need to sleep. Desperately. It's nearly two in the afternoon where I am and I have not slept yet.
Do not underestimate the power of spite and my loyalty to my friends. Both are very strong motivators.
But my body's needs are finally winning.
When I wake up, I'll have the Ultimate Drama Arc to post and expand upon and then the Return of the Drama Arc.
Yay. (said in the most unenthused voice ever lmao)
Anyway. Enjoy all this. I'm gonna go die. /j
#I do not condone harassment#I will keep telling myself that#and maybe my urge to commit unspeakable acts of violence against her will fade#eventually#*deep breath*#ar speaks#ar speaks ooc#twst rp#tw mental health#cw mental health#tw mental illness#cw mental illness
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One thing that does annoy me about the proship community is how many people use the phrase "harmful paraphilas" like. I thought you guys knew that thoughts ≠ actions. There is no such thing as an inheritly harmful paraphilia, only harmful actions. If you mean "actual abusers" just say that. There are plenty of people with "harmful paraphilias" that would never hurt anyone or anything. Just because some people with those paraphilias do bad things that doesn't mean everyone who falls into that group does or will.
Saying or just implying someone is inherently harmful for thoughts they literally cannot control, and that most do not act on, is anti behaviour honestly. Just because someone thinks or feels something that doesn't mean they're going to do that, just like how if someone writes or enjoys something in fiction that doesn't mean they condone it irl. Use your brains people.
#for the record i do not condone abuse. obviously. but i also wont stand for people painting others as evil for uncontrollable thoughts#✧─── ıılıılı ✩°。 once it's a ruin i can legally loot it ᯓ original posts#✧─── ıılıılı ✩°。 i'm always open to new ideas. my new ideas ᯓ discourse#pro ship#proship#proshipper#pro shipper#pro shipping#proshipping#profic#pro fic#profiction#pro fiction#pro para#pro paraphilia#propara#proparaphilia#antiharassment#anti harassment#antihara#anti hara
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if you support the insanity going on with this whole hitlist of ppl to harass and dox over proshipping/associating with them or whatever gtfo. its not cool
#utmv#utmv fandom#if u condone anything like that pls block me#thankfully im not involved#but i do want it to be known that im aware of it and these ppl gotta stop#online harassment isnt a slay
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On a more positive(?) note on Jade Shadows:
It really is so heartwrenching and tragic, Jade loved her kid so damn bad, if she survived the process you know damn well she would've been the best damn parent in the origin system by far. My heart so badly wants the three to be reunited somehow and be cool warframe parents together and be happy with their little bundle,,, :(((
She was clearly loved so damn bad by Sorren (Stalker) he clearly wanted them both to survive but it just.. didn't work out that way. And.. she was okay with that, she knew the risk and trusted him to see it through and to take care of their little one for her :"( And in all likelihood her being turned to a warframe back in the day is what probably doomed the pregnancy cause you know it's the damn infestation strain, the infestation (body) and the void (mind) are unpredictable and incomprehensible.. but that's speculation on my part. (But as per usual it's the orokins fault, looking at you, Ball-of-Ass Ballas)
We didn't get much time with her but I love her so damn bad already, she deserves all the love she can get,,, you best know that when I get her warframe she'll be absolutely pampered, tis what she deserves dammit! 😤
Now excuse me while I go hold DE at gunpoint to revive her in canon somehow
#warframe#jade shadows#jade shadows spoilers#the gunpoint thing is a joke btw#i do not condone actually harassing writers/devs
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Were seeing so many pro endo blogs belonging to traumagenic systems on our timeline and im just like STOOOOOOP KYS KYS KYS YOU DELUSIONAL BITCHESSSSSS ENDOS ARENT REAL YOU WHORESSSSSSSSSSS YOU FUCKING TRAITORSSSSSSSSSSS-Vinnie
honestly, we be feeling like that sometimes. The rage is,, intense
#We don't condone harassment or telling people to kill themselves btw#But thought crimes are not a thing#I personally don't think being angry is a bad thing when it comes to this#- James#anti endo#did#did system#endos dni#plural#actually did#alters#system#endos fuck off#did osdd#tw kys mention#cw swearing#CW caps#Not sure if we have to do those but we'll do so anyways just in case
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very cool this pride month to see the coldest take on wctwit that somehow chinese wc fans are to blame for wc not having LGBT+ characters.
anyway please support poc lgbt creators this month esp in this fandom. godbless
#if you see the tweet/response please for the love of God leave them alone. I do not condone harassing them and you suck bawls if you do :/#but all white wc LGBT fans owe me like $900 for subjecting me to their awful opinions#your series will not get cannon couples because it was made by cishet white British women#but why waste your hopes on it anyway 😭 support interesting fan content with actual lgbt characters if you want representation#looking in the misogynist racist mess that is cannon wc will get you nowhere. Godbless#blaming your lack of LGBT representation on nonwhite fans in a foreign country is not the flex you think it is. like congrats bro#you are at the same level of racist that the Erins are 😭#billy babbles
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not going to name names bc thats messed up but omfg i was tryna find records of old heta fandom shit to show inu right and i found a hetalia iceberg and I SAW MY 2019 OPP ON THERE. IT WAS SO FUCKING FUNNY LIKE MY EYES BULGED OUT OF MY SKULL BECAUSE IM NOT EVEN JOKING I HATED THIS BITCH SO MUCH WHEN I WAS 14 AND NGL I STILL HATE HER. I DIDNT SAY NOTHING AND KEPT CURTIOUS AND NORMAL OBVIOUSLY BUT ON THE INSIDE I WANTED HER ASS DEAD EVERYDAY AND WELL... you all know im never in the loop with things and had no fucking clue that she was just the antichrist for an entire group of people lol. SHE WAS MY ANTICHRIST THO. I HATED HER AND SHE HATED ME OKAY AND IM LIKE RODF SEEING HOW SHES ON THE FUCKING HETALIA ICEBERG I WAS LIKE OMG.... I THOUGHT ONLY I FUCKING DESPISED HER
#i hated her to an unhealthy amount imma be so real#bc ive never done an internet sin of like shittalking outside of priv accs/dms#or interacting anonymously with people i hate etc etc#but there are things that are like corruptions for your own soul from how sour hatred can get#and she did that to me. and i only hated her enough to do that#i have only ever in my life actively hatestalked her blog when i was 14 bc she made me so fucking mad everyday#ive only ever in my life hatestalked her like shes the only reason i can comprehend why people are compelled to hatestalk#this was all back when i was like 14 tho lol and#ugh... im sorry. as you can tell the hatred i feel towards her is like soul corrupting level#i want to say im sure she has grown up to be a fine person and logically i know this is true#but also part of me is like there is no fucking way this bitch grew up to be a fine person like the lobotomy part of my brain is saying that#i will not tell you who she is btw so dont send me an ask begging for the user#and if for some reason you have a hunch who it is. you never know you could be wrong and even if youre not i dont condone harassment towards#her or like yknow just any association like leave her tf alone#i dont have fans who love me enough or are crazy parasocial to harass someone i personally hate/hated#but still just in case#shes not an actual bad person. i just hate her so much that it makes ME a bad person on the inside#its why im so glad that i turned 15 and went i need to stop looking at her forever or else i will reincarnate as a mosquito#ill only talk to u abt her if we are at least acquatiances with eachother#and i dont think anybody will be able to figure out who she is actually bc i never once was mean to her outside of telling my close friends#i wanted her dead. me when i dont act like a beast online despite the vietnamese devil inside me
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disclaimer: blah blah blah, this post is just one person’s opinion, blah blah blah, I’m basing said opinion on my own observations but there are no doubt pieces of the story that I’m missing and my opinions should not be treated as fact, something something, DO NOT harass the volunteers at AO3 support or anyone else over any of this, if you harass anyone over this then you are the asshole, period. not a debate, just a fact.
SO, LIKE. I honestly don’t have anything of actual significance to add to the current round of AO3 Discourse because all of my complicated feelings on it have already been said better by other people
(e.g., axing “all media types” tags was a bad idea; some fans may not like them but they are too broadly helpful to be done away with entirely; this is a complex issue, there is likely no way to make literally everyone happy; there should’ve been more transparency and AO3 upset people more by rolling the change out with little to no warning; lumping former “all media types” works into a specific fandom silo was all but guaranteed to piss people off; the Archive userbase being hair-trigger makes a lot of sense after some of AO3’s very high-profile fuck ups in the past few years; however, the three (3) volunteers handling the support tickets are not the people who made the decision and it’s garbage that they’re the ones who are left dealing with so much of the vitriol from upset fans; etc. etc. etc.)
My big question in all of this is: if the people on the tag-wrangling committee who made this decision actually thought that getting rid of the “All Media Types” tag was going to be a broadly popular decision with a lot of support from users, then why didn’t AO3 do more to announce this change to users before it started being implemented?
If we are supposed to believe the version of the story that has come out from AO3’s people, the one where they really did believe that it was in the best interests of the majority of AO3 users to get rid of “All Media Types” tags, then why doesn’t their behavior about the decision reflect that? Why didn’t they post more to let Archive users know that this was coming? Why didn’t they talk up what a great change this was going to be and how many people and fandoms would allegedly benefit from it?
Why is it that most users (readers and authors alike) seem to have found out about this from popular posts on reddit, tumblr, or twitter, all made by aggrieved fans whose fandoms have been negatively impacted by the decision? Because as far as I can tell, there was a single solitary post on the official AO3 tumblr about this, which went up AFTER the change had started rolling out and got its reblogs turned off because of all the backlash?
Not to treat “say that shit with your chest” as uniformly useful advice, but……… Come on, AO3. If you really stood behind the decision to get rid of “All Media Types” tags as much you’re claiming—if you really, truly believed that it was in the best interests of the Archive as a whole and that the majority of Archive users would support you in it—then why didn’t you say that shit with your chest?
Because to me, failing to announce the change ahead of time—and then only doing the bare minimum to let users know—looks like moves to try and hide what’s happening, which does not make me, personally, inclined to believe the “We really thought that this would be a popular decision with broad user support” story
I do not have any explanations for what could’ve happened instead of the official story. Moreover, I’m don’t actually want to speculate on that beyond saying “The way this was publicly handled makes me personally feel disinclined to believe the official story” because conspiratorial bullshit thinking like that doesn’t help anybody (it’s way more likely to cause unnecessary harm, especially by spreading ideas that may sound true enough but are probably not gonna be based in reality, when you get down to brass tacks about it)
But the way that this whole change was handled publicly makes me personally feel disinclined to believe the story as put forth by the official post from AO3, and as a longtime Archive user with millions of words of fic posted on the site, who donates to AO3 and the OTW when I can? I really don’t enjoy feeling like I have even more reason than before to distrust Archive staff :/
#mine: text#kassie hush#mine: opinions#opinions for ts#fandom shenanigans#wank for ts#archive of our own#ao3#for transparency’s sake: the big reasons i have previously had to distrust the people running ao3 mostly revolve around them fucking up very#badly about handling racism & racist harassment on the archive. actual bipoc fans critics & scholars have written about this before but i do#think there are cases where you can tell very easily that any given fic is not ‘depicting racism but not condoning it’ & is in fact intended#to be racist harassment of bipoc in fandom spaces (the nazi omegaverse fic that called out dr. rukmini pande by name in the tags comes to#mind as does the ‘colonizer!lan wangji’ au from the mdzs/untamed fandom :///#i need to be getting ready for my vaccine appointment later but lol i am not being a responsible adult whoops#also there is a massive fucking fly in my room and i need it to gtfo
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How has TA not received more backlash on the things he says.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
#like I do not condone hate campaigns please do not harass him on twitter that's bad#but I'm surprised no one has
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Honestly I would just block this person but…I am honestly just so confused by this whole thing. Like what are you even saying???? Proshipping isn’t even a hobby lol it’s a stance.
but ignoring that I just kinda think this post is kinda wrong. While I think it’s kinda wrong to say you can’t separate queer history from proshipping it should definitely be noted that some of the points antis argue for sound very similar to the points many homophobes made against queer media. Such as how certain fiction should exist because of the subject matter or characters in it.
also…I don’t 100% get why they brought up how the proshipping community is predominately white and how because of that discussion of racism die down because like…while I agree many white people have and will talk over poc’s voices when it comes to racism what does that have anything else to do with what you were talking about…? People can discuss other topics and can bring light to other topics y’know.
also lol if you think proshippers are only defending dark fics from edgy teenagers please at least take a look at the actual subject matters proshippers talk about in the proship tag because it so…so much more than that lol.
#talk away ⌞🍵🍋 ⌝#proship#profic#proship safe#profic safe#like genuinely#What is this person trying to say lol#And also#if you find out who this person is#please DO NOT harass them#I do not condone it and it’s overall just not ok to do to anyone.
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Anyone who’s out of high school or in college, do teenage boys eventually get nicer? They make me not want to go to school.
#sorry to the good teenage boys out there#but I hate these guys so much#why am I being harassed just because they don’t find me attractive#why do they come up to me and say random shit just because I’m quiet#I remember in sixth grade a boy called me a gorilla because of my hairy arms#and it’s been years and I still haven’t recovered I bleach my arm hairs because of that#it got better when I grew into my body a bit more but still#they call girls females and speak lowly of them#this one guy said he would never be afraid of a female even though he’s under 4’9 and everyone is taller than him#ik height is not relevant but why is his ego taller than him#they’ve called me out on my checks flushing (it’s rosacea)#and the amount of times I’ve heard them rate a girls body behind their backs is gross#and now that I’m not ‘ugly’ they respect me which still sucks bc why is that the reason they don’t treat me like shit#and the girls who are like them and condone the behavior are just as bad bc why are you against yourself do we not have enough difficulties#anyways#had to ask this#because the school year is starting and that means I have to see them again#after a nice summer of recovering from then#rant?#idk#when do they outgrow the middle school phase because it doesn’t look like it’s happening anytime soon#teenage boy#girlhood#?#or is that just me#pjo#kotlc#high school#idk what to tag this as#school core
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it feels like proshippers are kinda circling the drain discourse-wise. they keep cycling between "you're in denial/bad/a bigot if you're anti-harassment over fiction but don't accept the proship label/You Are Proship" and "f/f shippers are the aggressors for criticizing fandom attitudes toward women/it's a natural occurrence for fandom to not care about women/[insert some other mealy-mouthed sexist bullshit]" month to month and about half the time it ends in dogpiling that they simply refuse to label as such because they each individually act like *their* comments are super salient and therefore not dogpiling
and each time it's hot air for the sake of hot air bc a significant chunk of proship discoursers are in it for the exact same reason antis are, at a base level. the repetition just makes it more obvious
#like yeah of course i'm pro-freedom in fiction but if your politics start and stop at fandom you and me have next to nothing in common#and in fact i have a significant amount of disdain for those playing @ serious issues just bc they want to remain unbothered at any cost#even if that cost is implicitly condoning a fuckload of racism/sexism/antisemitism/ableism#and turning away whenever you catch your moots doing a bit of light harassment :') something i've had to pull ppl aside for MANY times#it feels like i see this shit every other WEEK
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Money Heist is kinda funny bc their whole thing was that they wanted to NOT hurt the hostages because they wanted to appear LIKEABLE but both tokyo and berlin fucking raped someone, well, for tokyo it was more like sexual harassment, but she was a FUCKING MINOR, so you know. Like imagine getting out of this whole situation and these ppl are being painted out as heroes i think i'd become the joker or something man.
#luly talks#money heist#la casa de papel#yeah im not letting tokyo go for that one fuck was her problem?#i gotta give it to her tho. She's the very first problematic bisexual who's a girl that i met#well. that's if i dont count Frank who is a girlboy I GUESS. I gotta give tokyo extra points for harassing A GIRL IN HIGHSCHOOL#WHEN SHE WAS PUSHING 30. LIKE EVEN IF SHE WAS 17-18 THAT DOESNT CHANGE JACK SHIT. also she was a hostage and etc#honestly considering how insane mfs in this show were im glad helsinki was just fukcing Joshing around when scaring arturo#im also glad bc that's a fucking godawful stereotype so they dodged a bullet but it was so funny.#like in universe. he was just doing a little trolling. te amo gordo.#berlin i have nothign to say btw he's just berlin it comes as a surprise to no one also he was dying so he just said fuck it#i dont condone it but i get it like who gives a fuck anymore. you know
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if you wanna talk about how cishet writers can't envision gay couples without a man or woman role fine but come on, don't include butch/femme in there. especially when we're talking about hc's in a jarringly heterosexual series.
#obviously do not send the mods harassment. i do not condone that one bit#idk can we just like. think more about this.#how many butches do you ACTUALLY see in media. be real.
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Ash is a decent person. It’s getting ridiculous how often fans bully athletes about personal relationship stuff we know nothing about. Crosses so many lines
'we know nothing about' oh my dear child
#ask#you can't use your relationship for fame then cheat on your wife and get angry when people don't like you anymore#do i condone harassment? no#but i don't mind it when people call her out for being a hypocrite
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