#i am not plural by the way
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beneathsilverstars · 2 months ago
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Siffrin+Loop system backstory/timeline for my modern AUs!
Age 4 - ▮ is in a major car crash with their family. Their eye is injured, and their parents and sibling die. They split; ▮ has most of the memories, and is inconsolable when they front. ▯ only vaguely remembers events from before the crash without much emotional attachment, and explains that ▮ died along with their family, and being a ghost hurts. They're adopted by their grandmother.
▮ fronts and has a meltdown whenever they hear their name, hear anything about their family, or are forced to drive in a car. Their grandmother gets their legal name changed (to something she knows was on their parents' potential-baby-names list) and moves to a city with great public transit. After going a while without encountering their triggers, ▮ fades out. ▯ mostly fronts at home and a different alter mostly fronts at school.
Age 11 - Their grandmother dies and they enter foster care. ▯ misses their grandma and has trouble adjusting, so they go dormant. The composition of the system changes to adapt to changing circumstances as they're moved between foster homes. Mal stays the most consistent through this time period; it doesn't front often, but its memory is the least spotty, so it tries to keep the rest of the system somewhat organized and consistent and careful. It's kinda annoyed by everyone else coming in and out and making a mess, but better them than it.
Age 16 - They get a shitty part time summer job, and Siffrin pops up to front for it. He's very disconnected from the rest of the system; he doesn't remember anything he wasn't fronting for, and he can't access the same headspace everyone else is in. He's good at quietly adapting to whatever situation he finds himself in, at least. Mal is the only one who can pop over to Siffrin's headspace and talk to him, and it pulls Siffrin away from the front for someone else to take over when it's time to go home. The job ends and he sleeps for a while, and then they get another job and he fronts for it again.
Age 18 - They leave the foster care system and move into an apartment with some college students. Without school or a foster home to return to, Siffrin stays at the front unless something triggers someone else out, which happens less often as Siffrin gets better at holding onto the front and avoiding triggers. They spend the next couple years moving between shitty apartments and shitty jobs.
Age 22 - Siffrin becomes almost-sorta-friends with two roommates, and they stick together for the next lease term. He lands a job with slightly better pay than normal and a decent shift lead, but a particularly cruel manager. One of the roommates starts dating someone who's kind of an asshole.
age 23 - The other roommate unexpectedly has to move out of town, leaving the remaining two with higher bills. After a couple months with no luck finding someone new to sublease or at least move in at the next lease term, the roommate's partner moves in. The roommate often gets into fights with their partner, who is turning increasingly abusive, and Siffrin can't do anything to help. Some headmates from the childhood subsystem start fronting more often again, which is stressful to Siffrin since they have no idea what happens during that time, on top of their own increased dissociation. Mal isn't being very talkative, either, and what it does say is pretty harsh.
age 24 - The decent shift lead at work quits and gets replaced by someone worse, but Siffrin can't afford to change jobs and make any less money, since the abusive partner isn't contributing to bills. After a particularly bad incident between the roommates and then a disastrous attempt to convince the nice one to leave, Siffrin splits into Loop and a new version of Siffrin.
Loop keeps the memories of ages 22-24 (and nearly nothing before that), and copes with them by thinking of all people outside of their system as empty things acting out their roles, rather than real people with feelings and the ability to change. Siffrin keeps the memories from before meeting the nice roommate (though they're a bit foggy by now), and his personality resets a bit accordingly to what he was like three years ago. Loop is fairly aware most of the time when Siffrin is fronting and can chat with him, but Siffrin still totally misses anything that happens when he's not at the front. Loop continues fronting at work, and at home when either roommate is home, and just pulls Siffrin to the front when it's safe. The childhood subsystem stops fronting entirely now that someone else is here to deal with everything.
Since Siffrin is now free from the work/home stress, they're able to find and work a second job, and then another which allows Loop to quit the first. Siffrin mostly fronts for these new jobs, but Loop steps in when Siffrin gets too anxious. When the lease at the current place is up, the two jobs together are enough for them to get a shitty studio apartment with no roommates to worry about.
Age 28 - Siffrin and Loop have found a decent balance. Loop's not fond of Mal, but Siffrin chats with it sometimes. Both Siffrin and Loop still refuse to go anywhere in a car; Loop knows it's some sort of major trigger but doesn't know why, while Siffrin just happens to always choose a different option no matter how inconvenient. They've switched jobs a couple times, and none of them are great, but it could be worse. They've stayed at the same studio apartment this whole time, which also isn't great, but it could be worse.
Mal can still choose to hang out in either the Sif+Loop headspace or the childhood subsystem's headspace. At some point, when they're feeling safer, headmates from the childhood subsystem (especially ▯) will start fronting a tiny bit now and then when triggered by reminders of important memories. Loop is just as cut off from them as Siffrin is, and the moments are so tiny that it's hard to differentiate them from just zoning out, but eventually they'll figure out that there must be at least one more headmate they don't know about.
Find more info on the "current" state of the system in my original headcanon post!
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tempesttz · 2 months ago
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the culture around "reclaiming" terms is so strange to me. especially disorder goblins reclaiming pro endo or directly endogenic terms. stop stealing our resources, why do you need them so bad if we're so wrong and terrible, mind your biz
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kittygoopaw · 3 months ago
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It's fun to joke around about a headmate possessing you and using your body as a tool, a doll, a shell, until it starts to suggest you get a tattoo in order to "mark its property" and you can all but feel the strings tugging you around like a doll on a stage. ://3
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granulesofsand · 1 month ago
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I maintain that my collective is better educated on CDDs and trauma than most clinicians I’ve met. There is a sizable difference between lived and learned experience, and we have both. We soak up this information out of necessity and curiosity, they have different pressures. I believe researched systems/people with CDDs should be taken seriously, the same as a clinician before a rupture. We are not required to be helpless in our own field.
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tamarieatsbatteries175 · 2 days ago
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Hold on chat i may cook with some new slugcat ocs????
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chaoticcutiewhirl · 1 month ago
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I bring this from Twitter to add plural context: "I miss my Wife" - Basically everyone in my brain
Context: Fionn/Yang has Blake and Weiss, Avarstia has her wife Irene, Dendro has Camille and Nyra, Ceroba has her whole family and kinda Dina as a crush, and then there is me who is also there with either exomemories not really filled in yet or my best friend Vee because I miss her a lot. And then there are like 3 others who are all brain made without Kins
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one thing i really deeply wish is that i'd had access as a kid to the plural community and information that are more easily available today, instead of my first experience with plural community which both took it seriously and was nonjudgmental having been 10's era tul/pa.info lmao
#moogletalks#in some ways it was a wonderful community; and it taught me a lot of really helpful things#and made me feel validated and hopeful that This is a Thing That You Can Continue to Be and Develop in an Adult Life#instead of feeling like there was a time limit for when plurality stopped being Childlike Imagination and started being Craziness(tm)#(lots to unpack there lol)#.....in other ways not only was there Some Real Fuckery going on in the community in general; on an interpersonal basis#but i cannot overstate how horrifically toxic and damaging some of the things it taught me about plurality were#and how when i entered the phase of young adulthood where i realized the approach it had demanded of me was unsustainable to my survival#instead of having other perspectives on hand to go 'hey yeah you're not torturing your parts to death out of laziness if they go dormant'#'and/or if you don't spend hours of extremely grueling intensive work at minimum into maintaining them every single day of your life'#'and that if they dissolve into nothing because you Didn't Pay Them Enough Attention and you try to recreate them it won't be the same one'#'and if they DO actually come back as themselves they'll be horribly broken and traumatized and probably hate you forever'#'who the fuck told you that. oh my god?'#all i had to go on was 'either you're plural or you live an actual functional life in the real world; and i can't not do the latter atp'#and the result was repressing myself in an incredibly traumatic way i have just never fully recovered from even now#the fun cherry on top was that later when i *did* try to ask (very kind and well-meaning) plural ppl from another mental health community#if anything i described sounded familiar to their own experiences; or ones they had heard from other people#their response was pretty much 'idk that doesn't sound plural to me; i'm sorry; it's something where if you have it you know :('#me crying my eyes out for days afterward: obviously this reaction is bc i want to appropriate plurality to feel special#and am throwing tantrums at having the bubble broken by Reality#anyway. it's been a lot and yeah i really wish i'd had literally any other affirming plural community as a kid lol#ableism cw#internalized ableism cw#pluralitag#traumatag#adventures in mental illness#disabilitag
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alfiely-art · 2 months ago
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Hye you know that line that gets repeated by a shit ton of characters in post-canon content. About Dirk teaching them about life and love and all of that. Is that like a reference to Dirk cracking a shit ton of eggs irl orrrrrrr
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felixcosm · 6 months ago
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Imagine having nothing better to do with your time than arguing over whether or not a person is validated as a system. Like okay bitch why don't you work through that trauma instead if you're so insistent on making it your entire personalities.
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deandraxon · 7 months ago
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I’m not going to entertain people who think that a trauma based mental disorder can exist without some sort of trauma. It is not my job to educate you. I don’t have time or patience for this bullshit.
I don’t know why y’all so desperately want to claim systemhood without the disorders that cause it to begin with.
I don’t care that it makes you feel better about refusing to unpack your trauma.
I don’t care if you’re just calling yourself “endogenic” because you “don’t want to define yourself by your trauma”.
I don’t even care if you’re just roleplaying because you think having your favorite characters living in your head would be fun.
You’re all insufferable, and there’s a reason systems can’t fucking stand y’all. You bitch and moan about how we’re “so negative” about y’all and completely disregard the fact that you’re muddying the waters and making it harder for people to tell if they’re actually systems or just have an overactive imagination.
Y’all are the reason therapists give systems such a hard time and try to convince us that we’re not actually systems. Because people claim they’re systems but then insist that they don’t meet the criteria for it.
The human brain is crazy and complicated, but it doesn’t just up and decide not to form into a whole person for no reason. And I’m sick of y’all pretending it does so that you can invade our spaces. Fuck you.
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loveletterliom · 1 year ago
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Tubuhive Umbrella
"an umbrella term of sexes and sex-related genders that are exclusively experienced by systems." — lgbtqia.wiki
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Base -sex Variation Flag + + Base -gender Variation Flag
without the awful formatting and with the full umbrella this time! not coining, these are just flags for 'em since we haven't seen any flags for the whole umbrella. (+ some updates to flags we didn't really like)
Flags are under the cut so this isn't comically long ^_^
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Aivotsex Flag + + Aivotgender Flag :: a non-human system member who has sex traits that are not describable as male, female, or intersex.
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Cambiosex Flag + + Cambiogender Flag :: a system member who has a changing sex / changing sex traits.
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Innsex Flag + + Inngender :: a system member who had their inner sex changed medically. (inspired by transsex flag)
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Miscesex Flag + + Miscegender Flag :: a system member that has mixed/ambiguous genitals.
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Tómtsex Flag + + Tómtgender Flag :: a system member that has partial or missing sex traits.
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Neisex Flag + + Neigender Flag :: a system member that doesn't have a sex (while not exactly being teresex either).
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Samostasex Flag + + Samostasex Alt Flag :: a system member who has a sex that differs from their outward body's sex.
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Opposisex Flag + + Opposisex Alt Flag :: a system member who has a double and has a different sex than their double.
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Swapsex Flag + + Swapgender :: a system member who's sex swapped or changed in the innerworld without medical means.
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tempesttz · 5 months ago
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how being in the same place as anti endos feels sometimes:
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this is kind of hard to read due to the gray (my eyes are little light sensitive babies) and the tiny text so transcription below:
endogenic plural: "hey! i'm plural, like you, but in a different way! i would like to compare our experiences as we share a similar niche phenomenon and may be able to help each other out! isn't that cool?" anti endo: "well you'll never truly be able to understand how we feel as traumagenic systems because we never chose to be a system and you did and the fact that you use terms that we created as if your plurality and my plurality are the same is honestly disgusting even if it works the way that you claim you're encroaching on our communities and the concept that we are anything alike will NEVER be true. you will never understand how i feel you encroach on our communities and when we get upset about it you bite back, why do you NEED to exist in our spaces??? us trauma survivors have literal triggers that can be CAUSED by endos, being a trauma survivor means that we might not want to interact with you or validate you as an endogenic while you claim to have the same or similar experiences, our systems are based on trauma and survivial not whatever else you have, sharing community spaces like that is just so inherently wrong, if you truly are formed not by trauma than your experiences will never be like us, im quoting a real person here lmao" endogenic plural: "jesus dude"
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gayeredin · 2 months ago
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i know it's easy to miss but i'd like to point out that avallac'h plays pan flute, not regular flute
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scribbledcosmos · 3 months ago
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This has not been a good two days
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-Riley
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tired-fandom-ndn · 8 months ago
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I don't usually give a crap about grammar but I DO think it's important to try to show the bare minimum of thoughtfulness and respect when using words from languages that are from marginalized ethnic groups or often appropriated from in your own culture, especially when those words are often misused in harmful ways.
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skydigiblogs · 7 months ago
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ykw i just realized i haven't actually posted about the shit i liked about ghost game and i was thinking about like.
gammamon and gulusgammamon's relationship today???
the resolution of that whole thing really made me and my system happy, because one of us was literally in the middle of writing an essay about how no one ever does the "superpowered evil side" trope right, yeah?
ghost game is literally the only time i think they've ever done it alright from a system's perspective
mostly because while yeah, that whole conflict comes to a head at the climax of the series, it also doesn't end in some annoying shit where either gammamon Learns To Control His Evil Side (functionally destroying gulus) or Finds A Better Higher Power (technically he does as siriusmon but), he just goes DUDE YOU NEED TO CHILL and gulus grumpily obliges after getting the shit kicked out of him.
i'm pretty sure i've seen a few systems right more in-depth posts about this here on tumblr but like... yeah...
gammamon system my beloved
#sky talks#digimon#digimon ghost game#i was tempted to fold a shitpost into this but decided to separate it out into its own post because i do want to seriously like#bring this up#also yes if you're wondering i was thinking about this because of the gray matter fancomic#which is fleshing this out in a way that i am SOOO excited for#was literally laying in bed last night kicking my feet thinking about how excited i am to see how they handle kaus and wezen#girlies (gender neutral) will literally fantasize about positive plural representation instead of going to sleep#it's me i'm girlies (gender neutral)#i'm going to continue my gray matter fancomic propaganda for a while probably and i'm not sorry#it's a good fancomic#but yeah when we first finished GG we were fucking screaming about siriusmon vs regulusmon#BY THE WAY#THE STAR WE CALL SIRIUS?#IS ACTUALLY TWO STARS ORBITING ONE ANOTHER#SIRIUS A AND SIRIUS B#i'm absolutely feral about that note in the context of gammamon's system by the way#like from the first time we saw gulus our system was freakingg out and desperately praying that it wouldn't end in some stupid shit#(stupid shit defined here as Singlet Weirdness)#AND THEN BANDAI ACTUALLY KIND OF STUCK THE LANDING#LIKE YEAH WE GET THE FIGHT BETWEEN THE TWO BUT GHOST GAME'S DEDICATION TO THE THEME OF “NOT EVERYTHING IS WHAT IT SEEMS”#EVEN EXTENDED TO FUCKING SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG'S DRAGONSONA#AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA#you know that one image of the person on their hands and knees biting something and tearing it apart like a dog?#that's me with gamma and gulus#god
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