#how they're interpreted matters
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praisetheplatonicism · 10 months ago
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Y'know, I'm not really a shipper, for reasons my username (url? what's the right word here?) probably make fairly obvious - in general, the fact that every super close male platonic relationship gets overwhelmingly 'interpreted' romantic by the fandom drives me nuts. Most fandoms don't seem capable of letting men show affection for each other beyond the most casual care without insisting it must be a romantic or sexual thing because 'friends/siblings/what-have-you don't do that', and I just... it implies platonic love can't be all that, and it's maddening. Plus, does it not just prove to straight men that hey, yeah, actually you can't show affection to your friends (or FAMILY), cause people will still assume it's a sexual thing anyway? Does that not kinda promote that toxic masculinity thing of 'emotion bad'? It's just... my biggest pet peeve, people looking at others' relationships and dictating what they are. I've had it done to me in real life, and wow, not fun. And, of course, I'm just about the biggest hopeless bromantic you'll ever meet, so you can imagine how irritating ship-crazy fandom can get. I'm certainly not unbiased here.
HOWEVER.
I think this almost knee-jerk distate really only came from what shipping has become as of late - a hell war of people screaming and demanding that it MUST be canon, it IS canon, look at the EVIDENCE (as they point to a scene that is easily platonic-interpretable and not inherently romantic at all, and the assumption otherwise is blatant amatonormativity), and refusing to let anyone disagree or they're wrong (or 'homophobic', that's a fun one). Making the entire show or movie or whatever about their ship when it demonstrably Is Not That, yelling 'queerbaiting' when they don't get their way. I admit, this is the very worst of what it's been like recently, but it's still prevalent enough. When something has a deep, powerful platonic love as its main focus (for ONCE) and all anyone can do is insist its actually romantic, or when people are so focused on the ship the actual Whole Point goes sailing gracefully over their head (especially when that Whole Point is literally about platonic love, looking at you Supernatural), I die a little inside.
If shipping was seen as just a bit of fun, just playing with the source material rather than trying to CHANGE it, it wouldn't bother me at all! Like yeah, go nuts, power to you. I've even done that before, despite being Miss Platonic. But the way shipping has been recently (really since I've been in fandom, so like, 10 years or so? and probably well before) actually sometimes starts to threaten the integrity of the source material, like if enough people interpet something a certain way it BECOMES that, and I hate to see stories lose their idenitity like that. It feels a little disrespectful, like how can you really love this thing if you're so desperately trying to change its heart and soul? If you so blatantly ignore its Whole Point? Shipping has become weirdly cult-y, and I just don't like being around it.
Or maybe the entire concept has just been poisoned by prolonged contact with the Supernatural fandom. Cause we know what THEY can be like, don't we. Even just peeking at finale discourse made me want to smite myself.
To be clear, this is about the kind of shipping that INSISTS something is actually romantic, not the kind that just likes to play with that idea. The latter is no problem; it's the former that's a nightmare.
I feel like shipping culture changed a lot in recent years and it has made fandom spaces a lot less fun. There is this persistent obsession with proving your ship is canon, frenetically searching for clues and hints, reading everything as a metaphor for a character's repression, talking about how "we can still win" and making literally everything in a show about this ship. Of course there's nothing wrong with wanting more representation but my dudes just think about the show you're watching. If someone in a long-running show has always been represented as straight or if the show has never been about romance, then it's not going to happen and trying to force this ship on everyone else, bringing it up in every discussion about the show won't change that. Not saying everything used to be all roses, there have always been ship wars and stuff but in my experience people used to be much more relaxed, having fun shipping in fanon. Shipping is supposed to be fun! It's about playing around with characters and exploring possibilities canon doesn't. It's not about reading subtext in everything and proving how your perspective is superior or, god forbid, activism.
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gomzdrawfr · 4 months ago
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content warning: blood
Loyal to a fault
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the words on Ghost's body reads:
LOVE (level of violence)
it takes a monster to destroy a monster (poorly cropped i apologize)
Loyal Dog
Vēnor (Latin verb for hunt, chase)
this is something very different to what I usually do I hope yall don't mind....also this was me when I was sharing this with my friends...because priceghost/ghostprice dynamic really gets a grip on me
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anxiouslowercase · 2 months ago
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sas rh: let eoin survive the fall au » the astronomer philosopher, the earth and the moon
#sas rogue heroes#sasrh:canonau#augustin jordan#eoin mcgonigal#paddy mayne#although it is true paddy orbits eoin like the moon does the earth (moreso after the first jump)#and that everyone knows theyre basically attached at the hip (however you wish to interpret that)#it is *also* true the more the sas wins and advances the more david is requesting paddys presence for important matters#(and *yes* david's quite sure LT mcgonigal can handle waiting outside the tent on his own paddy hes a big boy alright now get in there)#HOWEVER#paddy starts noticing that ACTUALLY eoin is not waiting on his own so much cause theres another fucking lieutenant#who keeps orbiting around almost like moth to flame#and its weird but its no big deal at first - eoin is a social guy anyways so it makes sense even if this ones french ?#(plus paddy keeps his one on one time so no notes there)#BUT#suddenly they're sharing looks and smiles and sort of digs at each other and paddy knows damn well the way eoin is teasing#and apparently frenchie goes along with it adding his own brand of *something* and what the fuck#and then it seems like they have almost inside jokes and sometimes paddy gets out of his stupid briefing#and jordan is walking away all too pleased and eoin is all to calm smiling up at him like he didn't just maybe spent an hour#talking to a fucking french of all people. THIS ONE french of all people.#but then eoin is very good at distracting him and hoarding his attention away from other things#especially when he grabs his arm to drag him to the piano#(and in truth what nags at paddys brain is that he doesn't *hate* this necessarily ?? even if the knowledge picks at his brain)#(it... gets his attention it makes him think and wonder and he gets a little grumpy sure cause thats his eoin BUT#he doesn't hate it necessarily. and *that* should be a problem or something)#anyways back with my all have two hands agenda !!! look how cute they look together !!!
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spectascopes · 5 months ago
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so what is the intersection and explanation of "Papyrus lies all the time especially around certain people" and "Papyrus believes a lot of stuff at face value that is an obvious lie" like does he think he's the only person lying? What's going on in that bald head of his? Genuinely guys I wanna know what you think about Papyrus and Falsehoods it's fascinating
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fideidefenswhore · 4 months ago
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did anne have the motto "me and mine" some time? i don't hear much discourse on it compared to the grudge one
oh, i've seen discourse about it...
(ahem,)
tracy borman (recently) cites a secondary source (book, published 20c) for this motto, but as i don't have access to that, i don't know what his source is...
"The falcon was often painted in silver, with a gold crown and sceptre, standing on a gold trunk out of which spouted red and white roses and the words 'Mihi et mea' ('Me and mine' or 'me and my love') ." Pinches, J.H. and R.V., the Royal Heraldry of England (London, 1974) p.146
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unproduciblesmackdown · 25 days ago
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come get your levitous sidekick / vicious bastard / funny little guys
#don't tell the sheriff. that a couple of outlaws are having uh a halfhearted tussle or really cozy talk if you like#there's like a dozen of us here & i'm standing in another room saying this but a rando crops up like how & why have you just been around??#let's kick off '25 with Not That....meanwhile so totally unrelatedly i'm looking for a sexy singer & you're doing finger stuff; buddy#putting the g in g spot by way of: stands for gator. clench & death roll....but no. he's a crocodile. lotta options for c spots#corned beef#bsol#coconana#messed up like bloodsong is so Fun Sketches to me but even those take me eons. why couldn't i have done twice these in one sitting plus#a winston quant billions going :] plus i dunno whatever else floated my boat. unfortunately b/c then it wouldn't be me doing my things....#only 2/5 of these from canon but as gone on about idk where the Fake Blood was involved in turkey leg. just that it was. so#also didn't think about [sidebar with myself you forgot like angel & backlighting type imagery for Introducing Santa Violetta] like ah#so i did. well whaddaya gonna do...find & reblog the post that's like speaking of likeaprayer striking me like head first prayer second#smthing along the lines of ''muffled by dick in my mouth: lmao faggot'' there's some plausible coconana antics lol. steps; intervals....#can't have it be like ''be tender w/me bro im begging / bro im trying to find your g spot'' wouldn't beg for tenderness (cocodrilo)#or call anyone bro or much similar (either of them) like maybe i've waive the latter to try applying that to the musician/banana but yknow#in the meantime. funny little guys i cannot overemphasize this. bloodsong of love i also cannot overemphasize this#bilesong of hate....don't get me wrong Not a case where i only enjoy certain elements plucked out of canon / not as a whole#did i ever listen to that show straight through w/Ease....but if it Had been nothing but a vessel for lo cocodrilo times. god Damn#lo cocodrilo#bsol banana#also didn't think about how lo cocodrilo doesn't let go of the kazoo even to play it. mostly inadvertent Choice for top pic there#an issue that quickly arises w/like a prayer specifically: these characters don't have names. what's that mean peak literal lens?#i.e. seeing bsol itself as the less than totally literal method of storytelling that it is....idk & it wouldn't super matter#but i sure do think it'd be fun if they're treated as / perhaps actually [no name] on any possible layer of interpretation#[rando who firstnamed themself but besides that it's like eh & Where My Outlaws the less known the okayer]
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cloud-somersault · 1 year ago
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idk man, the epilogue is like this really deep...exploration of interpersonal connections and wants and desires interlaced with the complexity of circumstance and consequence and regret and guilt. and I started it as a like "haha, this is what I want! I want two monkeys being gay, haha!"
but it's so. fucking tragic, actually.
just in chapter 1, we see how defeated Macaque is, how lost he is. how he hesitates and flip flops constantly. how he says or thinks something with certainty, but then goes back on that. he tries so hard to commit to one path, but he truly is fluctuating and has no clue what to do
and wukong is just...certain of himself. he's certain of his wants and desires now after Constellations. He wants to maintain connections and put in the effort no matter what. and that..juxtaposition of them...is just so raw and hurtful in chapter 1 because we see that wukong notices that in Macaque because he knows him better than anyone.
And Macaque admits he's a little lost. he doesn't know what he wants. but he keeps walking. he wants to make his own choices. he wants to think for himself. he wants to see the truth for himself.
and as the days go by, as the weeks and months pass...as they grow and change, it's just sad. because it's not
the epilogue is not this "will they? won't they?" shadowpeach thing.
look at them as individuals. that's why i finally decided to change the perspective. because we needed to see macaque's thoughts. I've shown you wukong's; please give macaque that same level of attention.
when people write romance or relationships, they often misstep when it comes to the characters that are in the relationship. in order for that relationship to be believable and relatable and enjoyed by the audience, you have to develop the characters independently and together.
we cannot have shadowpeach until we know, with certainty, who macaque and wukong are.
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garden-of-infinity · 8 months ago
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Do we know for a fact if Sander, Alejandro, and Durkos are real or if it's like a Charlotte and Victor situation where it's likely they're just clones created by the Entity? The fics I've read so far all depict them as real people, but part of me wonders if in canon it's really them because Tarhos seems to have been taken by himself.
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nathaylee · 8 months ago
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“Hello, Jenny,” the man said. There was a strange emphasis to how he spoke such simple words – and, hang on –
Jenny sat up. “How do you know my name?” she asked suspiciously. The harmonies of the hum deepened as Laser Grid Girl also looked at the man askance.
“Oh, you might say I know your dad,” he laughed…
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Ruby’s in the middle of saving the inhabitants of the Moon of Praxis – just a typical adventure with the Doctor – when a mysterious stranger swoops in to help. When the Doctor learns who she is, he’s determined to get her back where she belongs.
hello I'm alive I think???? and my interest in Doctor Who has been roused from its slumber?????? Russell absolutely got me by bringing Tate and Tennant back (and has been killing it ever since)
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yeleltaan · 2 months ago
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How do you need to be touched?
Two results depending on the answer to one question:
gently.
You need to be held as though you're going to break. you need someone to trace your scars like cracks in a wall, crumbling. their touch is almost painful; you've been without it for too long, without someone to hold you. but, you cannot bring yourself to pull away.
fervently.
You crave a hug that cracks your ribs... the feeling of your wandering soul being crushed back into the bones that can't seem to hold it. you need a hand gripping yours so tightly you almost fear it may leave a bruise, a reminder that you are here. and that you are not alone.
Tagged by: @derjaegermond ! Thanks 8] Tagging: hey... hey you. Reader. I'm tagging you.
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forcebookish · 9 months ago
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if arkarm were really both supposed to be gay for you then why was arm made admin of a Hot Boy facebook page in the first place? shouldn't he just be gay from the start? sus writing choice tbh
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builtintripping · 2 years ago
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What is all the Nicktoons gonna do now that Timmy forgot them all😩
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OFC THEY'RE GONNA TIME/SPACE TRAVEL AND FIX THAT SHIT, RIGHT!?!?!?!?!?
... Right?
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mint-corset · 10 months ago
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Genuinely asking, because I'm so conflicted on this emotion.
Is it normal to be a little pissed that someone hears something bad happen in the house (Like a loud noise of something breaking) and they call out "Are you okay" and proceed to not check on you. Like at all. No follow up.
And in my defense I really didn't respond because after the thing snapped and broke my brain had to catch up to anything that followed, and by the time I realized what happened I also realized "Oh wow thanks I guess I'm glad nothing worse happened and I'm not hurt or anything"
Like am I little irritated? Yes. Very much so. But I'm also not going to make it a problem. I'm just sorta silently sitting here wondering if maybe I'm just a neurotic bastard.
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usercelestial · 3 months ago
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buddies and bucktommys need to unite, im tired of the fighting and the dumbass ship war, we should all be mad that these characters are mistreated, that these storylines are axed prematurely, that the writers string us both along and make us feel like one things happening right before pulling the carpet out from under our feet and breaking our hearts. you should be mad at lazy writing, you should feel disheartened by the way that no one cares about these relationships, you should be angry that this thing you keep being told to invest in never sees the light of day
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shieldwife · 1 year ago
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I need the hunger games to go back to no longer being relevant to most people because I keep getting genuinely heated over other people's opinions on a ya series and it's embarrassing
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melonthesprigatito · 1 year ago
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Polling a shockingly divisive issue I didn't realize was a thing until yesterday: Does Meowscarada have ears?
I've loved Meowscarada for almost a year and even before the game came out, when I first saw the footage of it leaked on Twitter, I was concerned that it didn't have ears, that the mask was supposed to look like cat ears but it didn't have any, so when I saw the back of Meowscarada in the footage, I saw that it had little ears behind the mask and they were folded back. And I thought "Oh my god that's so adorable 🥺"
So for nearly a full year I thought that Meowscarada had ears, they were just hidden behind the mask and were folded back for aesthetic. Because folded back ears are just plain adorable IMO
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But then this happened yesterday and it turns out the majority of people on Reddit think that Meowscarada doesn't have ears and that the "ears" are just fur tufts…. and that just confuses the shit out of me. Like….Why???? Why would Meowscarada have random fur tufts in the exact position where ears would be? Wouldn't the logical conclusion be to assume that those are ears?
And it's not like they can't be ears because they're plain undetailed triangles, plenty Pokémon have ears that are just shapes with a solid colour and no interior details. Think Bidoof and Mienfoo and Patrat and Pancham etc.
It just never occurred to me that they're just fur tufts because it made no sense to assume they were.
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(Before you go "Useless Red Circles" on me, when I asked on Discord some people thought I was talking about the cheek fluff so I'm circling them to make absolute sure people know what I'm talking about)
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