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nobleflowers · 1 year ago
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I hate hate hate those marauders fans who make you feel bad about liking a certain character/ship just bc they don't like them.
Like just bc you don't like jily or jegulus or Barty/Evan/Snape doesn't mean you have to make people feel bad. Some fans attack creators in their comments (on TikTok) over these opinions and it's so annoying like please stop.
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haunt-the-house · 9 months ago
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hey. hey, I love damien so much. but he's kinda an awful person/friend, to be honest?
Like canonically has done some shady stuff with money (considering he's mayor, it's not wild to guess that he was using tax money for something he shouldn't have).
he also was shown to be both manipulative and very easily betrayed us/the da despite being long-time friends. (No matter what fanfic writers may want, damien was not being forced by celine, wkm Fandom celine is not the root of all evil in the lore).
he also tried to cover for william literally murdering someone (there is the nuance of grief muddling people's emotions and having both victim and perpetrator be his childhood bestfriends don't get me wrong...but at the same time dude your best friend just died after having a very rough couple of years before but you're fully sided with the guy who had an affair with your sister????)
my point can be easily shortened to this; Damien is not a morally perfect person. This does not make him a bad character. stop making characters worse for him to be better in fan stuff, and if i see another uwu version of him, I'll die.
(note: this doesn't mean he can't be nice and tbh out of the main cast of wkm, he's definitely on the morally higher ground BUT LET HIM NOT BE PERFECT THATS LEGIT AN IMPORTANT ASPECT OF HIS CHARACTER)
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saveraedae · 6 months ago
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I honestly don’t know whether to be open with my emotions on a public platform or not, don’t wanna unintentionally evoke negativity from people, but at the same time, I feel I shouldn’t have to censor myself if it’s something I truly feel. What’s your personal stance on that?
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creativesplat · 1 year ago
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Mipha!
Mipha… where do I start!? 
First impression: 
I thought she was a very pretty fish-lady, and was instantly blown away by how romantic her memory with Link was (some poeople already know, but before I played the game I looked at fan art and stuff and really liked the concept of ZeLink people were drawing - it must be a canon ship if people are so intense about it right? and I almost always fall for the canon ship in a piece of media. So I got into the game wanting to rescue the princess Link was in love with. Turns out that princess wasn’t Zelda, and from my first impression I was like ‘oh ok, so we’re not avenging zelda then… we’re avenging fish’
Impression now: 
She was so wonderful why did she have to die!! Link loved you, your design is so cool, why did you die!! A strong powerful (dagnam play AoC and you’ll see what I mean) warrior princess who loved her people and her family and Link. what a woman she was (and is in aoc).
Favorite moment: 
Okay, so I know its a bit basic and there are some awesome moments in AoC (like the date her and link so on) but the first memory, the first time you’re introduced to her, it still gives me chills. Mipha's touch is and always will be my fave. I love it. 
Idea for a story: 
The tensions between Hyrule and Zora’s domain bubble over, leading to a siege or something, and link betrays Hyrule to join Mipha and bring the war to an end. 
Ooh another one: Link tries to run away from the duty assigned to him and is forcibly kept at the castle by Rhoam but the champions help zelda and link and they leave central hyrule to try and figure out the various powers without the added trapped in the castle stuff. Mipha rescues link from a tower like rapunzal effectively. 
Unpopular opinion: 
Link should have rescued her instead being with Zelda during the calamity. She was strong and could battle effectively, but if Link had gone with her, they would have dominated water blight as a badass couple. If link and mipha had defeated water blight, they could have joined the rest of the champions (due to the sheikhah slate being available for teleportation), weaken Gannon through attacking the blights and then go and kick is butt in the castle. What a good happy ending that is! (I think I just described AoC a little bit…) anyway. 
Favorite relationship: 
LINK AND MIPHA THEYRE SO CUTE TOGETHER AND SO BADASS AND I LOVE THEM. 
They are the perfect couple, and the proposal armour is just so sweet and I adore them both :) 
Favourite headcanon: 
Oooh. There’s a lot to pick from… 
The symbols on the Zora armour represent Link and Mipha’s marriage, and tying the families together:
the Rhombus with the luminous stone is what I head canon Link’s family sigil/ crest to be:
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And obviously the three cresents are Mipha’s family crest 
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And here we see them combined, with a white stone in the middle 
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White gems are often related to hope (link), healing (mipha), unity, and wholeness. So a unity between the rhombus and the crescents and the ideas of healing and hope? Am I reaching. Yes. Do I also love this head canon? Yes. 
2) Link understands Zoran (the Zora language) but can’t speak it very well on account of the fin movement and whistling required. Mipha regularly says ‘I love you’ or other comforting things via subtle tail or fin movements when in company. He has little hand gestures he uses, sign shorthand I guess, to tell her the same.
3) the champions all knew about Mipha and Link's relationship. because their little found family deserves to have a fun time trying to set them up on dates or make them do things together, so that even though things are tense between hyrule and the domain, the two can spend time together.
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mitamicah · 1 year ago
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This might be an unpopular opinion and/or get me into deep waters with the rest of the kääryleet and baby boos:
I feel iffy about all the live streams from the concerts recently
Sure, it makes sense that people would like to go for a live stream for a don't-miss-it event like the finnish leg of JO's nordic tour or when YLE livestreamed the Black Box welcome-home gig - in those cases it is understandable.
But for a qoute-on-qoute "normal" concert?
Maybe I am too old to understand the appeal but tbh I would rather know that the people there are enjoying the concert (maybe only taking a few pictures or videos as a memory for themselves) than having people feel obligated to film the whole concert to share on social media.
it shouldn't be a requirement to share every single second with the rest of us, if you ask me. We're already blessed with so many snippets and pictures from every show, we can go without having a live stream happening for every single käärijä or joker out gig
Feel free to disagree with me, it is a very old person opinion, I know 😅
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tarlosmalec · 1 year ago
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I know some of us don’t want to admit it out loud, but I’ll do it for you.
I’m so fucking glad Dylan OB left that shit show behind and plans to never return.
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akkivee · 2 years ago
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that unpopular hypmic opinion post that’s been floating around for a minute has been has been fun in places, not so much in others lol but today it had me crying because i also wanted bat to beat mtr, and i long for what sort of character direction hitoya would have gotten if he had beat jakurai then 😭😭😭
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steelycunt · 2 years ago
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okay so i don’t mind reg bc w/e this is fandom innit ppl can do what they want, but i think you’re so right that remus and lyall are fundamentally much more interesting characters and so is their relationship. reg by himself is somewhat compelling but no one in the fandom seems to care abt what makes him compelling i.e. stuff that actually happened in canon not just fanfictions that he’s been featured in. for instance, i see it being stated as though it’s fact that his parents abused him which we don’t know iirc? we know that sirius was mistreated and i do think being raised by political radicals would likely cause a turbulent home life, so i doubt regulus came out of his childhood unscathed, but we have no actual proof he was treated similarly to sirius at all. he was still a supremacist, just not to the extent that his parents were. as far as i’m concerned he died a fascist, but he had a “for thee but not for me” tory level attitude about certain things.
oh absolutely! with regards to my position on regulus, im in no way trying to say that people can’t/shouldn’t like him—as you say, people can do as they like, but im just personally not at all interested in him or with what general fandom consensus has chosen to do with him. the things that would make regulus compelling in canon do not necessarily compel me anyway, but more than that i agree that a lot of people have chosen to virtually wipe those things out out in favour of creating a morally pure conceptualisation of him that they don’t feel the need to defend (not that i think anyone should have to defend having an interest in regulus anyway).
i suppose i am just not personally predisposed to having an interest in canon regulus, so his popularity is not something i fully understand, but particularly the version of him that has been created by fanon...honestly i find him irritating, and generally i find even less to be interested in in a conceptualization of regulus that strips him of agency, flaws and responsibility. i said in that other post that i dont think regulus is as complex as he's given credit for (which applies even more once fanon is through with him), and i honestly stand by it--i reckon he was fully willing, albeit having been influenced by his upbringing, to become a death eater, and i don't buy the narrative that he had no choice and was forced into it and had no personal sympathy with the politics of it all. i find it ridiculously convenient. and then, i think he started having doubts when the impact of all it all became a little too close for comfort (for thee but not for me is quite a perfect summary lol), and he turned traitor. that is really all there is to it for me. i do not think that he would have rejected his parents' ideology if given the chance, the way sirius did. but i recognise really, since i don't think a character's morality or lack thereof should dictate whether you're allowed to enjoy them, the discussion of regulus' morality is sort of besides the point lol, other than the fact that i find his complete and unrealistic redemption via fanon rather boring and admittedly a little lazy.
my comparison between his relationship with sirius and lyalls relationship with remus in the earlier post was mainly just me. making a joke of sorts and being a little unserious, but i do genuinely think lyall and remus are a lot more interesting and complex--though i 100% recognize that this is largely personal preference and im not trying to dress my opinion as an objective fact. mainly, i guess where i am with it all is that i already dont really have an interest in regulus from canon, and despite his huge surge in popularity i have never seen anything in fanon that really changes my mind about that (apart from. maybe one fic). which is fine! nobody is obligated to sit here and try and tailor their own takes on, or fondness for, this guy to attract my interest, or win me over. that is not their job. my opinion holds no more weight than the next guy's, and my lack of interest in regulus is not anyone else's problem, just like i am not ever going to exert energy trying to win someone over to liking remus or liking r/s. i am never going to go to someone's blog or fic and have a go at them for liking regulus/demand they justify themselves. BUT, in the safety of my own blog, i figure im safe to say these things xx and as far as im concerned, my favourite thing regulus ever did was piss off and die xx
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If you already got this from someone and you just haven't answered yet pls ignore, but if no one else asked i want to add klinger+charles for the relationship bingo ask meme
ok I’m getting to this late as FUCK but PLEASE nobody ever hesitate to send me something for an ask game if I get one ask on a topic I will go YIPPEE and if I get 20 asks on the same topic I will go YIIIIIPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Anyhow you're indeed the only one around here who shows outside interest in our rarepair insanity, a boon I will remember as long as I live btw. Mx. Smoking Marlene Dietrich I owe you the WORLD
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TRIPLE BINGO because they are EVERYTHING. to me.
It’s funny. This is the one duo where I almost do just want to post the bingo and leave it at that. Part of me wants to tell people about this ship SO bad, to give novel-length explanations and justifications and theses. But the other part of me is like you know what. You either Get It or you don’t.
Anyways there are 10000 things to say about Them but one is: I specifically did not fill in “gay af to have a sworn rival” even though it cost me another bingo because one of the most fascinating things about the interactions between these two is that they actually do not have a mutually adversarial relationship--even though that’s what writers usually do with two characters on diametrically opposite ends of the socioeconomic spectrum. 
I’ve been thinking about this a bit because I’ve seen people say things like, “It’s great what a funny duo they turned into when they started out hating each other, haha.” And I get why one would think like this but IMO it’s actually not the case! Charles acts more familiar with Max over time because he does that with everyone--
(Though he’s racist towards Max throughout, of course. Because Charles’ racism never goes away. You know that right. MASH fandom I am putting my hands on your shoulders and asking: You know that, right? I keep seeing people talk about Charles having a character arc and a redemption arc so I’m just. I’m just making sure.)
--but Max has actually been pretty nice to him right from the start, back when Charles’ relationship with basically every character was antagonistic. As soon as s6e13 he tells Charles how similar they are, how they should work together to try and get away from the war, how they’re “soulmates”. Even after Charles insults him, he straight up says, “I’m on your side, Major”, which I’m pretty sure remains one of the nicest things someone canonically says to Charles, ever. Just one scene, but emblematic of a greater whole, of quite a few future scenes where Max gamely engages with Charles even when it puts him in unpleasant situations.
And of course, the motivation the show usually gives, on those occasions when it thinks about Maxwell’s motivations at all, is a simple throwaway “Well Charles is paying him / giving him some other material benefit, so obviously Klinger will be his kicked dog! You all know how Middle Eastern people are! We are a groundbreakingly progressive show btw.”
But man. Fuck that shit. This is far afield of my original point but the thing is, Max’s interactions with Charles are often the most egregious exempla of every way the later seasons fucked over my girl here. It almost seems useless to try to analyze any of Max’s actions after a certain point from a Watsonian perspective, when the Doylist reading of the show being too racist and stupid to do anything coherent with him is the ultimate explanation, and sometimes the only explanation you can even come up with, because shit just makes NO fucking sense in-universe. 
But unfortunately I’m a stupid cringe ass fanfic writer/reader, and I love this character, and Max already gets so little screentime compared to the main protagonists, and I don’t want to just ignore him because of the decisions of writers who didn’t care about him.
(That’s the entire reason I started shipping this stupid thing in the first place, btw. I just wanted to read some fanfic where Max is the main character and idk if you’ve noticed but if it weren’t for AO3 user stateofintegrity and their ~problematic cringe ship~, the pickings would be pretty fucking slim.)
So I like to pretend there’s a better reason for Maxwell going from “Major Burns I hate you so fucking much I am going to kill us both with this fucking grenade” to the equivalent of a tumblr blog responding to pathetic anon hate with “are we about to have sex”. After all, if you’re going to write Maxwell yourself, get inside his head and all, then you also have to account for why he tolerates all the OTHER characters’ racism towards him in later seasons, too. 
And the messy problematic reasoning I come up with is that Max is at heart the kindest and also most emotionally intelligent character on the show, and even the liberalized version of the 1950s our story is set in is a systemically bigoted universe that is all he’s ever known and experienced, and he’s certain these are good people, really, when it matters. And being emotionally intelligent, and generally intelligent too for that fucking matter, and observant and insightful, he can tell there’s a big difference between Frank and Charles, and perhaps less of a difference, even, between Charles and Hawkeye. Maybe when you watch things from Hawkeye’s POV, the ideological and moral differences between him and Charles are huge, but maybe if you were in Max’s POV instead there wouldn’t be quite as much of a distinction between them. I don’t know! I don’t know. Just some ideas, I don’t know. 
Of course getting into fucking. internalized racism and such is pretty uncomfy and exhausting shit. And that’s not even touching all the gender stuff my girl has going on. You start to see why nobody wants to get into this character’s head much. But I do :3 And I do honestly think sometimes the most effective way to do that is to look at the Messiest Ship In All Of MASH (TM). As I’ve talked about before from the Charles angle, I love this ship precisely because of its Problems, because they’re problems that exist anyways for both characters, and having the two of them interact makes the problems impossible to ignore, so they maybe finally get to be dealt with. I mean, I just don’t think the optimal resolution to Charles and Max’s racism-laden interactions is that Charles goes back home to a big opulent house and Max struggles to save up to buy a used car in After M*A*S*H. That is not super satisfying. to me. 
This post got derailed to hell but I think what I was trying to say is that Max treats Charles SO much better than that bastard man deserves and I would at least like to see something come of it, for the love of--
#HAPPY NEW YEARS EVE I lost so much sleep to write this and for what. truly for what.#to hopefully not get hashtag canceled for it on the off chance someone reads it I guess ghdsjgkhdsklkhk anyways#I meant to say I actually usually hate when Rich Character and Poor Character are portrayed in a Rivalry Of Equals type scenario cause like#nooooo actually that's not how life works. power differential means something. this is no a fair fight.#Starky loves answering questions#marley-manson#putting my organizational tags early this time cause apparently if you put them too late they don't show up on your own blog tag searches??#I couldn't find my unpopular opinion Charles manifesto ;;;_;;; thankfully I'd linked it before smh#did any of this make ANY sense like just out of curiosity. clap if it made sense.#mash#charmax#idk man I just can't separate the fact#that Charles being racist to Klinger is contemporaneous with#1) the other characters not really giving a shit about Charles' racism#and 2) the other characters also being racist to Klinger themselves#albeit less frequently depending on the season#I've said it before and I'll say it again#everything people hate about this ship should be things they hate about much more than JUST this ship#the concept of shipping these two together just makes you suddenly step back and take notice of all the latent garbage#and that's part of why I like it. because it makes you take notice.#the other part of why I like it is that Max deserves a sugar daddy who will buy him anything he wants forever#also this isn't the direction I ended up going with the post#but my favorite thing about the total imbalance in how they see each other#is that Max makes Charles soooo angry all the time#and Charles barely registers as an annoyance to Max most of the time#it's like when a cat has decided one of your appendages is an enemy to be attacked#and you're just sitting there like haha playtime with my silly kitty :3#K if you're reading this btw you know I don't think your stuff is cringe or problematic#that was for the Outsiders the Uninitiated the Ignorant#you understand how it is. I am giving you 1000000 kisses now also.
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your13threasonwhy · 1 year ago
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unpopular opinion (i actually dont know if it is one but)
i looooove making op ocs like wtf do u mean 'characters need to lose fights to develop' man stfu and lemme imagine my oc absolutely DECIMATING someone who should be unable to be beaten
its literally so much fun to make op ocs i dont get why people are so against them (from what ive seen) like let people do what they want dude💀💀
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notgoingwell · 2 years ago
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Definitive turn-offs in fanfiction, barring standard issues like wrongly listed warnings, misleading tags and ships, turning a reader into an OC, crossposting, etc.:
-Immaturity (both in the rise of conflicts, as well as, simple dialogue) there's nothing more off-putting than two adult characters behaving like overemotional teenagers that put feelings above reason, entirely neglecting responsibilities and duties. There's always a time and place to address such things, but making hurt feelings the front and centre of a story, where the concerned person repeatedly whinges, is an absolute obnoxious vexation
-Twisted morality eg. villainising a reasonable person due to deviating beliefs one fails to comprehend, or normalising inappropriate, harmful behaviour 
-Insert modern sensibilities into fantasy or science fiction (issues, speech, behaviour, belief systems, etc.) This one especially turns into a jarring experience in a case like, eg. modern girl falls into XYZ trope -> Bear in mind that, depending on the time, and the world, they're in, they'll have to adjust. You won't be able to interact with anyone, less so, them apprehending anything in your colloquial language. (slang, idioms, abbreviations, and jokes) Not acknowledging those significant factors will influence the verisimilitude of your story, disregarding all believability and possible interesting bits you could've written about. Adjustments invite faux pas, trial and error, having severe consequences due to carelessness. One action causes a reaction.
-Out of Character I'm aware some characters are more easily to grasp and get the hang out of when writing them, but it irks me to no end when they all of a sudden talk as the next person on the street would, when they, before, had a unique way with words. (Adding, and this point, might as well, more likely be seen as "to each their own", turning them into something they weren't before because the author felt the need to project their own stuff onto said character)
-Main Character Syndrome (applies to both: Reader-inserts and OCs) Not every character has to be the chosen one, the one who's more powerful, knows all the answers, or is somehow the most special creature to ever have lived. It's okay to be normal and simply exist within this/other universe(s), without ever contributing anything groundbreaking. A small arc of changing one's mind, attitude or belief is as compelling as a larger-than-life adventure, if done right. And if a character happens to possess any special abilities, it'd be fascinating to see them working on their shortcomings and follow them throughout their training to master said skills (which one should not master without ever having trained) Additionally, and I sadly have witnessed this one quite often, to add to a new inserted character's uniqueness and giving them sth. to do, some authors will transfer lines or actions to their new addition from other people in-universe, failing to notice, that they've stolen these people's character-defining moments. There's a way to implement your character in the story without diminishing the roles of everyone around, no matter how minuscule. (don't even get me started on Reader/OC being the sole reason the protagonist/love interest chooses a path, takes action, etc. as shown in the media they're taken out of)
-Lack of creativity this one's tricky to define, especially with the example I'm about to give, 'cause it isn't inherently a bad thing, might as well be down to preference. More often than not, writers tend to insert characters by connecting them to the protagonists in some way, be it through familial bonds, established friendships or replacing the role of a side character. (throwing some shade at Star wars here, since they believe said bond is enough to make a character worth following/investing in)
Yet, it always seems so lacklustre and uncreative to just turn your Reader/OC into a sister, daughter, neighbour, or longtime friend, in order to have an easier way in. Even more so when that status quo replaces the relationship-developing phase of a story. I've always found it more intriguing to have strangers clash and find their way into working as a unit. And if one character simply replaces another, why insert it in the first place? 
Feel free to add.
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byler-4-life · 2 years ago
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DK if this is unpopular or not, but the Russian plot line is literally so boring especially in season 4 and should have been removed from the show or cut in half. I skip it every time I rewatch. And the way they explained how Hopper ended up in Russia and what the Russians even want with the upside down in the first place is kinda bad. Stranger things should have kept its mystery contained to Hawkins and the Lab
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tache-noire · 9 months ago
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aew's "pillars" aint lookin so good i think we need new ones
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wanderingmind867 · 1 year ago
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Maybe an unpopular opinion (I don't know what is and isn't popular, though), but I didn't love the Bob's Burgers Movie. I love the show a lot (I've seen a lot of episodes on TV 5 times over), but I didn't like the movie as much as I could. I last tried to watch it some year or two ago with my dad. Because of that, my memories of it aren't too good. But can I still try and explain why I didn't like it?
I think I didn't like it because it felt like it dragged sometimes. Mind you, we were watching it online and our internet crashed halfway through (so I know I have no place to talk), but it did feel like it dragged sometimes. Other than that, I don't know why I didn't like it. I wish I did (at least then I could try and get people to see my perspective). But as it stands, I don't really remember why I didn't like it. I just remember not loving it. Maybe in a few months I'll try watching it again. But who knows if I'll even finish it then?
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enixamyram · 8 months ago
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My Unpopular Hazbin Hotel Opinions
Chaggie is one of the best couples and is underappreciated because it doesn't follow stereotypical romance tropes that have been forced down our throats by Hollywood for years.
The majority red colour doesn't bother me. In fact I think it works really well as a media tool to make Hell look depressing without being bland while places like Heaven stand out as being really magical because of the variety of color they have in comparison.
Vox, Velvette and Val are all entertaining characters with great designs and while I will enjoy karma and justice (hopefully) kicking their asses at the end, I also hope it isn't rushed and we can enjoy their chaotic relationship a bit longer.
As long as you respect canon, I don't see any problem with having fun with ships, even the OOC ones. (In fact I kinda like RadioStatic as a ship...)
There are no bad songs.
I hope it's revealed that characters like Angel and Husk did genuinely bad things that earned them places in hell. I feel like their greatest crimes being self inflicted abuse with drugs and alcohol takes away from Charlie's goal and the overall storyline.
I understand why people want Angel and Husk to have a relationship that's more emotional than sexual. But it feels a little unhealthy to say they would cut out sex entirely, like going from one extreme to the other is never a good thing.
Saying Niffty is like a child because of her size and goofiness while drunk is really almost dangerously problematic.
Velvette being treated like Val and Vox's daughter also feels really gross to me. Why is it always the women that get this treatment?
Hazbin Hotel is a passion project from an independent creator. Representation is important and great when included but it shouldn't necessarily be a check list everyone has to do. While I would love to see more plus sized characters, Vivzie clearly has an art style and she shouldn't be vilified for that. The same should not be said for mainstream media projects because they aren't telling a story out of love but rather to be popular and they have a much bigger impact on audiences so they should be held to higher standards.
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lunee43 · 2 months ago
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Okay soooo I might get bashed for saying this but unpopular opinion coming and a rant hopefully this is a safe space;
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Six hundred strike was amazing musically: unlike many I enjoyed the beginning of the song but by the end I was a bit put off because how does Odysseus, a mortal defeat a literal god, not just a god but POSEIDON god of the fricken sea and earthquakes? Like it’s a cool concept but it’s just… makes Poseidon look and seem weak then in the ocean saga. Sure Odysseus became a “monster” but he’s still a mortal, I also find the “six hundred strike” silly like Odysseus did that?…. Using a wind bag?
I enjoy the concept but the plot kinda turns it off for me (not that it’s bad please don’t bash me) Poseidon is one of the 3 major gods, I feel like Odysseus was made to be too overpowered I’d understand if there was a power boost or divine intervention. Poseidon is made to seem weak which contradicts seeing him as a threat. It strays from the original Odyssey way more in this song, and the song is very amazing though I find it silly how Poseidon was defeated and how Odysseus is way too over powered.
And let’s talk about the animation, the person who made it is so very talented but I feel it doesn’t fit, the jet pack windbag? Boss battle? Interesting but it really put me off when I listened and watched it it kinda ruined the aspects for me.
Overall in the end I feel six hundred strike had a good concept and was very great musically but I personally didn’t like the plot of Odysseus defeating Poseidon so easily I mean the man has many different powers aswell? Anyways this is just my personal opinion
Another rant: Also I loved the song “I’m not sorry for loving you” though I feel like if I even said that out loud I’d be bashed by the fandom because, yes, calypso is a bad person I know but the song is really nice and musical it doesnt mean I like the things she’s doing to Odysseus.
Another rant (apologies); I feel like everyone is too blindsided with Odysseus, a lot of people blame everyone but him a lot like he’s just a “cinnamon roll who loves his wife so much and the crew are all a-holes” because like eurylochus he also made mistakes aswell he tries to keep his crew alive abd get home but we do have to accept that this was from Greek mythology he is a flawed character aswell and I enjoy him for that. It makes the audience connect with Odysseus.
Another thing, wisdom saga— I feel Telemachus is used like a child a characterization of a child or teenager unlike the 20 year old he is. It’s a bit off putting for me. And it’s possible to make him innocent and grown such as the use of Polites. Personally he’s like an embodiment of a child and it’s weird to me because he’s a prince and will be king, shouldn’t he have some roles?
Now another thing connecting onto what I just said about “Odysseus does no wrong” ALOT of people in the fandom seem to use Eurylochus as a scapegoat for their hatred and anger to who’s at fault when it’s really the gods and fate, it’s just something the fandom has created to put the anger on why Odysseus couldn’t get home quickly, and I can understand because we look through Odysseus’s perspective throughout the musical. But personally I feel like Eurylochus gets too much hate he is sadly the scapegoat. Even the crew, but it’s saddening because they also have lives, they had family, they are mere mortals what are they to do? What would you all do in these situations if you didn’t know Odysseus’s plans and inner monologues? How would you act?
It’s honestly saddening you can’t like eurylochus without a person spewing about why they hate him, heck I’ve even seen just simple cute TikTok and art about the man but people place hatred within the comments about the character. And it’s only him, you could like Odysseus, polites, perimedies elpenor, Circe, etc. but hate Eurylochus?
<<This is all I have to rant about this is a safe space on my acc for all opinions so you can comment your own opinions, just don’t be mean to eachother>>
(I’m most likely gonna get hate or bashed sadly for having these opinions though I genuinely enjoy the musical a ton. I feel the fandoms grown a bit toxic lately.)
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