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Someone said that Brennan in the Dimension 20 live shows poster was hitting the DreamWorks eyebrow/pose and I really couldn’t help myself
BrennanMind?? Brennan Lee Mullimind???
#brennan lee mulligan#dimension 20#intrepid heroes#time quangle#dimension 20 live#dropout tv#dropout#fantasy high#a starstruck odyssey#misfits and magic
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I love the edits people make of the romances between two NPC characters from Dimension 20 because its literally like:
*Clip of Brennen Lee Mulligan slightly facing left*
*Cut to -*
*Clip of Brennan Lee Mulligan facing slightly right (and sometimes wearing a different shirt)*
and over the top of that is one of the most heartwrenching songs ever made.
#dimension 20#d20#fantasy high#fantasy high sophomore year#fantasy high junior year#a crown of candy#a starstruck odyssey#neverafter#the unsleeping city#the unsleeping city chapter 2#dropout#brennan lee mulligan#intrepid heroes
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Menelaus: So, how’s parenthood treating you? Penelope: Good. I didn’t expect this much crying, though. Menelaus: Don’t worry, it’s normal for babies. Penelope: What? The baby’s fine. I was talking about Odysseus. Odysseus, sobbing from Telemacus' room: I LOVE YOU SO MUCH!
#greek mythology#incorrect greek mythology#greek heroes#incorrect greek heroes#incorrect greek quotes#incorrect quotes#the odyssey#incorrect odyssey#menelaus#penelope#telemachus#odysseus#ithaca royals#odadsseus
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KING OF ITHACA !!
an attempt at this
it looks a little wonky i think but its almost 3am so i dont care atp
#odysseus#tagamemnon#the iliad#greek heroes#iliad#odysseus of ithaca#odyssey#the odyssey#greek mythology#my art
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Life advice
Percy: Man, I wish the gods noticed us for once-
Odysseus: *Grabs Percy by the shoulders* No you don't.
Percy: Wha-
Odysseus: No, you don't. Go live your life, run free, stay in school, start a family whatever you do just don't be a favorite of the Gods. Stay neglected by them, trust me.
Percy: Wait- you're Odysseus, that's so cool! Wait aren't you a favorite of the gods-?
Odysseus: Yes and believe me when I say it's not as glorifying as you think it is-
Zeus: OOOOH ODYSSEUS~!! WHO WANTS SOME GOOD CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT US GENEROUS GODS WANNA OH SO DEARLY GIVE TO YOU~!?
Odysseus: FUCK THEY FOUND ME-! RUN! SAVE YOURSELF-!
#These two musicals and stories are so hilariously opposite of eachother and I love it#I think percy really needs to meet Odysseus#I think they'd understand eachother quite well#odysseus#the odyssey#epic the musical#greek mythology#epic: the musical#greek heroes#percy jackson#percy jackon and the olympians#the lightning theif musical#the lighting theif
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Started a new book series, and has been a journey...an Odyssey, if you will.
#poorly drawn odyssey#the odyssey#Athena#telemachus#penelope#odysseus#calypso#I also drew Phemius the bard and Antinous the leader of the suitors but I'll hold onto those for a while longer.#The Odyssey has been on my reading list for ages and I finally decided to just dive into the Robert Fagles translation.#*nobody* ever talks about how damn funny the Odyssey is. Oh my god. I have been howling.#The poor bard doomed to keep playing for this unending feast. The most unwilling court jester.#Penelope being introduced by her crying about how much she 'hates this song'.#And Telemachus is the goodest lad. The OG protag to set about on his heroes journey.#He is kind! He is soft! He yearns for adventure and finding out the truth! He wants to get back at his bullies!#He even gets a companion named Mentor. THE original mentor! Who is *totally* not a god by the way. Just a guy.#Not to mention how much Odysseus gets hyped up only for his first appearance to be him sobbing non-stop.#Honestly I was mostly motivated by the need to do research for a personal project but I've been having the best time.#I sincerely doubt my current audience has any overlap with classic Greek literature but expect a few more PD-Odyssey posts.#(Yes - I am familiar with Epic the Musical; this is not fanart of that adaptation).
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Overcoming the slightest challenge of my day: “This is just like the Odyssey.”
#tagamemnon#greek mythology#odysseus#the odyssey#the gods have more misfortune for me still#comparing my issues to greek heros is how I cope
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i was watching an aurora nebbins compilation video and i am absolutely obsessed with the implications of this comment i saw
i love this person's mind. they thought this and never questioned why dimension 20 would replace murph in the intrepid heroes with ANOTHER murph and NEVER mention it ever again. and i think that's fucking beautiful. this is my new reality now thx
#brian murphy#dimension 20#d20#a starstruck odyssey#d20 a starstruck odyssey#aurora nebbins#big barry syx#brennan lee mulligan#fantasy high#intrepid heroes
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Odysseus and Menelaus parallels are scary!
Soooo isn't anyone gonna talk, after all my posts, on how the two very good friends during the Homeric Poems, Odysseus and Menelaus have similarly meaning names? No? Okay then I suppose I have to, then and I will!
Odysseus: => ὀδύσσομαι (odyssomai)= to be angry at, to be bitter against, to hate
Menelaus: => μένος (menos)=anger, fury, vigor + λαός (laos)= people, army
So we have basically:
Odysseus: Anger Bringer, Angry/Furious, Hated
Menelaus: Fury of the People, Anger of the People, Vigor of the Army
So just for your information the two heroes that share so much in common;
their love for their home
the love for their wife (a very beautiful and very intelligent wife!)
agruably both married a princess that was out of their league at that time (Menelaus married Helen who was a princess of a powerful kingdom, arguably a demigoddess while he was an exiled prince once and a second son and Odysseus...yeah come on! The Prince/King from a small kingdom arrived in Sparta without even adequate wedding gifts or no gifts at all and left with a Spartan princess! Way you go champion!)
the love for their only child they left behind (the possibility of both of them having children outside of marriage in post-homeric sources for different reasons to he back of our heads)
their connection to Sparta by marriage
their adventure with being shipwrecked
consequently having to beg for the help of another ruler
coming home several years after the end of the war
the two characters that went to Troy to negotiate
one of them would absolutely be capable of starting a war for the woman he loved, the other one did it
two emotional men who share their sadness and happiness gladly with people they trust and love
both suffered trials and tirbulations (Menelaus was exiled from his own home as a young man, Odysseus wandere all over Mediterannean at his later age)
So the two dudes that share ALL this they also share a similar sounding name that also dictates their position in the war and the importance but also how they also suffer and how much anger they invoked but also felt deep inside!
And these two share such a strong friendship!!!! Suffer with me now!
#katerinaaqu analyzes#greek mythology#tagamemnon#odysseus#menelaus#the odyssey#odyssey#homeric poems#the iliad#iliad#homer odyssey#homer iliad#epic cycle#odysseus and menelaus#menelaus and menelaus#menelaus and helen#menelaus and odysseus#odysseus and penelope#greek mythology names#odysseus name#menelaus name#trojan war#heroes of the trojan war#fall of troy#parallels
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me since I was 11 yo
#idk if it's been already done#homeric poems#homer#the iliad#the odyssey#epic poems#greek literature#tagamemnon#odysseus of ithaca#penelope#telemachus#achilles#patroclus#greek mythology#helen of troy#menelaus#agamemnon#helen of sparta#hera#zeus#athena#poseidon#apollo#mine#greek gods#greek heroes#hermes#aphrodite#ares#artemis
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Odysseus: "oh no we’re all doomed by the narrative" Odysseus: Maybe you are. I’m the narrative’s favorite. [later] Odysseus: Update: Turns out this is not a good thing for me.
#odysseus#greek heroes#greek mythology#incorrect greek gods#incorrect greek mythology#incorrect mythology#incorrect odyssey#mythology#incorrect greek heroes#greek gods#s: tumblr#queuetzalcoatl
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Hi, how are you?
Hey, could you draw Odysseus and Diomedes? They are two of my favorite characters and I would like to see what they look like in your style and in your version. Greetings
Hi!! absolutely!! i’ve been planning to design them for a while, soon i’ll have a little doodle of them from book 10, but until then have their portrait design sketches!
they really are just the silly sneaky little guys, love them sm
#odysseus#diomedes#the iliad#greek myth art#greek mythology#homeric epics#tagamemnon#the classics#classics tag#greek heroes#the odyssey
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Odysseus: I made lightly fried fish fillets for dinner. Penelope: Ody, It's 1:15 am, what the fuck. Odysseus: Do you want the lightly fried fish fillets or not. Penelope: Well, I mean yeah. Odysseus: So come downstairs while they're still hot. Penelope: Wait, you just made them? Odysseus: Yeah, I wasn't tired so I decided to make lightly fried fish fillets. Penelope: Say lightly fried fish fillets one more time Odysseus
#greek mythology#incorrect greek mythology#greek heroes#incorrect greek heroes#incorrect greek quotes#incorrect quotes#the odyssey#incorrect odyssey#ithaca royals#odysseus#penelope#odysseus x penelope#odysseus being chaotic gremlin
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nothing's new (dionysiacas)
#odydio#odysseus#diomedes#greek heroes#greek mythology#tagamemnon#the odyssey#odyssey#greek myth art#imgonnakms#ao3writershowdareyou#my art
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In other news:
#Pays to be the gods favorite#Also not someone who opens the damn bag#epic: the musical#epic the musical#epic the thunder saga#epic the ocean saga#epic the cyclops saga#epic the troy saga#epic the underworld saga#epic the circe saga#odysseus#the odyssey#homer's odyssey#greek mythology#the iliad#homer's iliad#greek heroes#the underworld saga#epic: the cyclops saga#epic: the troy saga#epic: the thunder saga#epic: the underworld saga#epic: the circe saga#epic: the ocean saga#greek mythos#greek myth#greek gods#ancient greek#greek goddess#greek tumblr
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So lately I’ve been seeing a lot of posts asking people to stop trying to make Odysseus look nice in their works cuz he’s a “messed-up person in the mythology”. Your opinion is valid however I have but one thing to point out:
You want to know who started all this? Who started to “make Odysseus look nice” in the first place?
It’s Homer. It’s nobody else but Homer himself.
A non-Homeric Odysseus would try to murder people out of his own interests. He’d murder Palamedes without remorse (and we’d be cheering over this but it’s a murder after all), he’d attempt to murder Diomedes just to get the Palladium himself, he’d volunteer to kill Astyanax…meanwhile you wouldn’t find any mention of either Palamedes or Nauplius in Homer’s poems, neither did he mention anything abt the Palladium heist (and Diomedes necessity did not happen until Conon’s version), the death of Astyanax, the distribution of war prizes, etc. And all the details in the Odyssey seemed to deny the existence of Nauplius’s vengeance at all, so Odysseus would not take any of the blame.
A non-Homeric Odysseus would be depicted as “cruel, treacherous”, meanwhile in book 10 of the Iliad Odysseus was not mentioned to have killed anyone during the marauding, neither did he promise Dolan anything at all. The negative interpretations are denied by these details subtly put by Homer.
A non-Homeric Odysseus would be widely known as a “coward” for only shooting arrows from afar. But Homer gave him a spear and had him absolutely slaying in both the Iliad and the Odyssey. That part of Ajax’s speech was invalid already.
Most importantly—a non-Homeric Odysseus would be having kids everywhere else, and the loyalty to his own wife as seen in the Odyssey is no where to be found. Meanwhile his lineage was a single-son line made by Zeus in the Odyssey, and his love for Penelope was one of his main drives, especially seen in book 5 of the Odyssey. He loved his family as a loving parent—something you don’t get to see in most of the non-Homeric writings—for most of the time they followed a different tradition indeed, in which Odysseus wasn’t half as nice as in the Odyssey.
TL;DR: in case you haven’t noticed, the characterization of the Homeric Odysseus was quite different from a non-Homeric version of Odysseus. It’s not that Homer didn’t know of the existence of other versions—he knew them too well, which is why in his version of the story, you don’t get to see any mention of them.
#and now hot take: your opinion is invalid cuz there isn’t supposed to be such a term as “nice” when describing a person#he did not join the war willingly and the war crimes he did were out of necessity#no god has judged him on these “war crimes” so neither should you#not especially when you’re basing it on your modernized view of this matter while the ideology of heroes is so different in ancient times#there isn’t such a term as “nice” or “not nice” when it comes to an Ancient Greek hero#they’re complicated persons with feats on their shoulders and family of their own#tagamemnon#the iliad#the odyssey#homer’s iliad#homer’s odyssey#the epic cycle#homer#odysseus#epic the musical#tagging epic cuz I’ve seen such opinions directing at Epic!Odysseus—but how on earth was he a “nice” person#he did much horrible things in act 2 and isn’t that what you would like to see or did I smell double standards?#*shrugs* I do not direct this at anyone—just at some specific opinions I’ve read online#anyways there’ll always be arguments but let’s just agree on the fact that he’s a grey character and he did stay grey in these adaptations#so fricking tired of these negative commentaries which are not constructive at all#Lyculī sermōnēs
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