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This is how I think that scene went
#odysseus#tagammemnon#the iliad#menelaus#homeric epics#homeric poems#menelaus and odysseus#greek mythology#epic cycle
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Odysseus and Menelaus parallels are scary!
Soooo isn't anyone gonna talk, after all my posts, on how the two very good friends during the Homeric Poems, Odysseus and Menelaus have similarly meaning names? No? Okay then I suppose I have to, then and I will!
Odysseus: => ὀδύσσομαι (odyssomai)= to be angry at, to be bitter against, to hate
Menelaus: => μένος (menos)=anger, fury, vigor + λαός (laos)= people, army
So we have basically:
Odysseus: Anger Bringer, Angry/Furious, Hated
Menelaus: Fury of the People, Anger of the People, Vigor of the Army
So just for your information the two heroes that share so much in common;
their love for their home
the love for their wife (a very beautiful and very intelligent wife!)
agruably both married a princess that was out of their league at that time (Menelaus married Helen who was a princess of a powerful kingdom, arguably a demigoddess while he was an exiled prince once and a second son and Odysseus...yeah come on! The Prince/King from a small kingdom arrived in Sparta without even adequate wedding gifts or no gifts at all and left with a Spartan princess! Way you go champion!)
the love for their only child they left behind (the possibility of both of them having children outside of marriage in post-homeric sources for different reasons to he back of our heads)
their connection to Sparta by marriage
their adventure with being shipwrecked
consequently having to beg for the help of another ruler
coming home several years after the end of the war
the two characters that went to Troy to negotiate
one of them would absolutely be capable of starting a war for the woman he loved, the other one did it
two emotional men who share their sadness and happiness gladly with people they trust and love
both suffered trials and tirbulations (Menelaus was exiled from his own home as a young man, Odysseus wandere all over Mediterannean at his later age)
So the two dudes that share ALL this they also share a similar sounding name that also dictates their position in the war and the importance but also how they also suffer and how much anger they invoked but also felt deep inside!
And these two share such a strong friendship!!!! Suffer with me now!
#katerinaaqu analyzes#greek mythology#tagamemnon#odysseus#menelaus#the odyssey#odyssey#homeric poems#the iliad#iliad#homer odyssey#homer iliad#epic cycle#odysseus and menelaus#menelaus and menelaus#menelaus and helen#menelaus and odysseus#odysseus and penelope#greek mythology names#odysseus name#menelaus name#trojan war#heroes of the trojan war#fall of troy#parallels
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Hi how are you? I hope you're well 😁
Hey, could I ask you if you could draw Menelaus, Agamemnon and Odysseus? Please?🙏🏻
Hey ! Im fine, I hope you too !!
And of course hehe
(A-ah I didn’t draw Agamemnon.. Im sorry I... I dont like him..... Maybe another day I will draw me 😭 IM SORRY !!!)
BUT HEY, here are the girls too !!!
#art#artists on tumblr#greek mythology#tagamemnon#epic the musical#epic the musical penelope#epic the musical odysseus#epic odysseus#odysseus#odysseus and penelope#menelaus#menelaus and odysseus#helen#helen of sparta#epic penelope#penelope of sparta#penelope#the iliad
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"The horse and the infant"
#I didn't realize it would be so hard to draw this.#epic the musical#greek epic#odysseus epic the musical#menelaus#tagamemnon#agamemnon#epic the musical fanart#Diomedes#little ajax#neoptolemus#homer iliad
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Both fellow-countrymen then,
how often we’d have mingled side-by-side!
Nothing could have parted us,
bound by love for each other, mutual delight …
till death’s dark cloud came shrouding round us both.
#animatic#tagamemnon#see the caption makes you think this is a serious animatic but it really isnt#greek mythology#iliad#odyssey#odysseus#menelaus
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Decided to revisit some Iliad designs and polish them up! Semi-canon to my EPIC designs. Odysseus is just too jacked lol
#epic the musical#artists on tumblr#the iliad#the odyssey#odysseus#diomedes#menelaus#agamemnon#maybe they're all a bit too buff tbh#these are all just cleaned up sketches so no special attention to body types
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meny and ody
#they were plaguing my mind i needed them OUT#menelaus#odysseus#greek mythology#the iliad#the odyssey#tagamemnon#my art#artists on tumblr#beanie ody. beanie ody.
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There’s a certain idea that’s been on my mind for a while so here you go-
A very cursed Iliad AU
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Back at the camp:
#my art#they're so silly and stupid#iliad#achilles#patroclus#the iliad#patrochilles#odysseus#menelaus#Diomedes#greek mythology#tagamemnon#friendly reminder that patroclus can throw hands
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Menelaus: So, how’s parenthood treating you? Penelope: Good. I didn’t expect this much crying, though. Menelaus: Don’t worry, it’s normal for babies. Penelope: What? The baby’s fine. I was talking about Odysseus. Odysseus, sobbing from Telemacus' room: I LOVE YOU SO MUCH!
#greek mythology#incorrect greek mythology#greek heroes#incorrect greek heroes#incorrect greek quotes#incorrect quotes#the odyssey#incorrect odyssey#menelaus#penelope#telemachus#odysseus#ithaca royals#odadsseus
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Homer's Menelaus: Ah, I grieve for my best friend, the one who suffered more than any of us to the point I cannot sleep or eat! What accursed fate has befallen on that great man!
Eurypedes's Menelaus: Ah that blasted son of Sisiphus is a people pleaser addicted to the love of the crowd! He will do anything to give blood to please the mob! If he is onto us we're lost!
Like...Eurypedes my boy I love your writing on many aspects but...what the fuck? 😅😂
#greek mythology#odysseus#the odyssey#tagamemnon#odyssey#homeric poems#homer#eurypedes#homer odysseus#homer odyssey#homeric epics#differences of ancient greek writers#eurypedes iphigenia en aulis#iphigenia en aulis#menlaus#menelaus and odysseus#does “son of Sisiphus” translate into “son of a bitch” or what?#ancient greek tragedies#greek mythology memes#odysseus and menelaus#homeric odysseus is just its own thing!#apparently so is menelaus!#lol 😆#giggling while writing this#fair haired menelaus#odysseus with polites and diomedes is nice but we need more odysseus with menelaus out there!#menelaus
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sorry for bringing up stupid discourse in the middle of the night again. remembered the time someone tagged my homophrosyne post complaining that odysseus gets to sleep around while loudly proclaiming that he'll kill his wife if she cheats. which: absolutely did not happen! not in homer's odyssey!
as i alluded to in that post, there is an implied threat to penelope. but it's not implied in anything odysseus says about or to her! i would argue that it's most heavily implied in how the telemachia is framed by the house of atreus drama. orestes has recently avenged his father's death at the hands of his mother's lover; it stands to reason (so the story would go) that if penelope were to accept a suitor, they would pose a threat to odysseus, and telemachus would have to avenge him. that is the implied layout of the poem. which it then subverts time and again by none of that happening with odysseus, penelope, and telemachus.
and it's also implied by the gendered double standards around marital fidelity in a multi-thousand-year-old text, which are overarching, and not particularly shocking in that context. i find it completely disingenuous to make it an odysseus problem when there is so much going on in their marriage that's more interestinggg
#anna.txt#a tag for bitching#to return to that comment. we DO have examples of husbands (vocally!) wanting to murder their wives for infidelity#notably menelaus!! depending on what you're reading he may actively intend to kill helen after the war!!#but odysseus in the odyssey: does not ever verbalize something like that
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shipwrecked menelaus in euripides' helen:
odysseus someplace mid-odyssey at that exact moment: alright time to go a-beggin' again, hold my chlamys
#menelaus like 'this is so humiliating i'm gonna actually die' and odysseus is already brushing off his knees after all the supplication#oh a shipwrecked king on a foreign shore??? with tattered clothes and no idea where he is??? trying to make it home from the trojan war???#you ain't the only one manny. it gets RESULTS#tagamemnon#menelaus#odysseus#euripides
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Warm up sketch with Odydiolaus 😌
#greek epic#greek mythology#diomedes#odysseus#menelaus#the iliad#tagamemnon#diomedes x odysseus#odysseus x menelaus#my art
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dad jokes
#sorry i saw the first one and it just went down hill from there#art#the iliad#greek mythology#odysseus#athena#sthenelus#diomedes#agamemnon#clytemnestra#hector of troy#andromache#menelaus#paris of troy#helen of troy#tagamemnon
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All men of the Illiad
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