#harley rant

[maddnessmadds]

Can we talk bout the fact that its almost canom that when Joker is being affected by scarecrows fear toxin at the end of arkham knight, sure his main fear is being forgotten but he almost hallucinates a lot of fake scenarios, His wake, the radio channels, and even the news papers TO A POINT where riddler and harley are deemed to be the next 'big thing'

Anyway i find it very funny that this opens the question of 'this means Joker is jealous to some degree of eddie.' and that makes me giggle sometimes.

[thevillainsfangirl]

This is gonna ruffle a lot of feathers, I’m sure, but...

If you're going to love a fictional villain, LOVE THEM AS A VILLAIN! Stop trying to make them into some Good Person™ that they’re not. What is it that you even like about them? You think they're hot?

Quit being a pussy! THEY'RE FICTIONAL. It's not some moral dilemma if you love a villain AS A VILLAIN.

(Remade this old post because I had some characters to add.)

[poisonousquinzel]

Harley Quinn (2016) #58 | Harley Quinn (2021) #43

screaming crying foaming at the mouth

[batboopp]

i hate tiktok batman fans because like. “he should kill people!!!!1! he should just kill joker!!!!!” graaagag no. i don’t care if a criminal bombs an entire city batman shouldn’t (and he honestly wouldn’t) kill at all.

and also its just like. he wanted to quit being batman at the THOUGHT of truly killing someone. he starts shaking profusely when he points guns at people (even if they deserve it.) he has ptsd attacks upon seeing corpses, no matter how often he sees and interacts with them

its that batman won’t kill, and also he just CAN’T. its not how he’s wired. the core of batmans beliefs is that he strongly supports the idea of rehabilitation. it’s the reason he still even bothers saving gotham, a city that is literally cursed from the outside in and can never really be fully helped. it’s why he still bothers with many of his rouges (Harvey Dent/Two-Face, Harley Quinn, Killer Croc, some versions of Grundy, and some versions of Riddler are the first ones that come to mind.)

if batman killed, it just throws out one of the reasons for batman existing out the window. he believes in vengeance AND justice, and It’s crucial to use BOTH of those personality traits together if you want an accurate and likable portrayal of batman.

vengeance for the innocents his rouges have harmed, and justice and empathy for his rouges as well, co-existing.

anyways if you want a character like batman except that they kill people then be a red hood fan idfk

[jewishcissiekj]

So much about current DC is so casually or clearly antisemitic it's just painful at this point.

So I was going through the Solicitations for Dc's December comics and I got so fucking mad To start it off, one of the first things I see when I open Instagram after Rosh HaShana is Superman drawn as Jesus/a Christ figure for an official cover by Jorge Jimenez. Then, there's an entire event throughout November and December in DC that's centered around Santa Claus. All well and fine, but two of the leading characters that have been chosen to hang around Santa are Harley Quinn and Damian Wayne, both very much ethnically Jewish at least.

These two characters' Jewishness is ambiguous and barely mentioned, so maybe DC just forgot? But that's exactly part of it, how these characters are very much Jewish going into their families and heritage, but DC chooses to ignore that repeatedly, making that part of their identities irrelevant and unmentioned. Not only that, but DC keeps hiring the same artist who's known to be a N@zi (and a CP artist), Otto Schmidt, for some of their Christmas and Santa covers. It makes me soooo mad and it's so, so wrong on so many levels.

The last time in recent memory I can recall a character's Jewish heritage being acknowledged in a recent DC comic I read, was with Hal Jordan, in Knight Terrors: Green Lantern, only because a Twitter user told the series writer Hal was Jewish, or he wouldn't know otherwise. I never understand why it's the fans' obligation to remind a writer of a character's heritage or ethnicity, why isn't it already known to the writer? Why are these things, which are a big part of so many people's lives are so largely ignored in stories that discuss these people's lives?

It's a gut kick at the worst level and it hurts like hell. It makes it a million times worse that it's not only Judaism and characters' Jewishness. It's all aspects and types of culture, from Selina Kyle's essentially erased and forgotten of ethnicity to whitewashing Damian Wayne and so on. God I hate it.

[mxescargot]

Chinastuck: the beta kids

tl;dr for the uninitiated: what if all homestuck characters were chinese people

John Egbert: 光勇 (Guang Yong). Lives in Beijing (im sorry /j). Han, Mongolian, and some Korean ancestry.

egbert means "bright edge" and guang means "bright" and also sounds a little like john even if its the surname. john means god is gracious, which is not really a type of name chinese people give their kids so i just went with a common masculine name that sounds good with guang: yong, which means "brave" which i thought was fitting. i think dad egbert definitely calls them by the diminutive yongyong.

June Egbert might choose the name 小玉 (Xiaoyu), meaning "little jade", in reference to her sister.

Rose Lalonde: 刘秀兰 (Liu Xiulan). Lives somewhere in Jiangsu, probably Shanghai. Hmong, Jewish Han, and Kazakh ancestry.

i literally just went with a random common surname that vaguely sounded like lalonde here. xiulan means elegant orchid, so it's a flower name like rose and i think it fits her vibes. she shares the character xiu with roxy's name, tianxiu.

transmasc rose probably steals his name from a book character.

rose is very similar to canon i think, except she lives in a penthouse in central shanghai. i want to say initially she feels her heritage doesn't matter to her but later in life she tries to reconnect with not being "100% han".

Dave Strider: 赵大伟 (Zhao Dawei). Lives in Chongqing. Hmong, Jewish Han, and Kazakh ancestry (same as Rose).

zhao has a similar meaning to strider and was also a surname of the emperors so it has a connection to royalty. this works for both the lotr reference and king david. dawei is... a generic chinese boys name thats the name you give your kid if you want their english name to be david. it means "extraordinary".

david means "beloved" and every single chinese name like that is feminine. Dove Strider takes this as inspiration for the name Xinyan, spelled either 心燕 meaning "beloved swallow" or 心焱 meaning "beloved flame" instead of the more conventional 心妍 meaning "beloved beauty".

dave struggles with their cultural heritage more actively than rose does, and thus leans hard into their sichuanese identity. i headcanon them as making fun of chengdu (chongqing's rival in representing the cultural center of sichuan) in addition to making fun of northern chinese culture. SICHUAN RAHH

Jade Harley: 林玉平 (Lin Yuping). Lives in rural Shaanxi. Han, Mongolian, and some Korean ancestry (same as John).

lin has similar meaning to both harley and halley, meaning grove/forest. yuping means "peaceful jade".

Jude Harley might choose the name 洋 (Yang), meaning "ocean" in the sense of expansive, or he might not feel a need to change his name. swapping names with his sibling is also a possibility.

i think her upbringing just translates to the rural northwest well? also i think its kinda cool she'd grow up near a section of the great wall of china. i could see her engaging in cultural traditions like papercutting and folk singing :> also buddhist jade real and true im not projecting trust

thanks for coming to my ted talk be on the lookout for more posts like this ft me struggling with traditional characters and cantonese pronunciations

EDIT: @ask-chinastuck exists :)

[qcomicsy]

No because I'm sick and tired of DC spending years profiting from abuse and domestic violence towards Harley from joker and now acting like never happened, or he was just a "shitty boyfriend" who "told her music was trash" and "unappreciated her".

Joker was an abuser, in every sense of the world.

And not only with Harley, this isn't a "product of it's time" or "some bad interpretations" like Daredevil and Batman this is literally his ENTIRE character over the last forty years. It's a fucking pattern and a consistent one.

DC made him that way, over and over again. And now that they noticed that this isn't something to be pride upon not even if it's edge they're losing their balls and backing away from it to make him seem more sympathetic.

And I don't fuck with that. I don't care if they make him a communist in a silly TV show. I don't fucking care if they get Lady Gaga and Phoenix to play them as a couple and I don't give a fuck if it's Oscar worthy.

Joker is a garbage of a person and his relationship with Harley shouldn't be erased like that now they're icky about it, own your fucking choices and portray it like it.

That being said I want Harley to chop his head off in the movie.

[dirkapitatedz0mbie]

Wdym "they aren't the same ship"...?

[doesnotloveyou]

yknow when a story has a group of male buddies and the bad guy kills a bunch of them so the survivors go on a vengeful rampage... Where are the wives and girlfriends and mothers and daughters and platonic female besties who are just as willing to pick up a weapon and avenge the men they lost?

this should be more common and i want to call it the "Ross Adler Effect" after Mattie Ross (True Grit) and Sadie Adler (Red Dead Redemption 2): One female character (at least) who takes a second to process how her life has changed before pulling up to the gang like "you don't get to say I can't come too."

I'm tired of media perpetuating the idea that the convictions of a fictional guy's male friends/relatives constantly matter more than those of his female friends/relatives

[queenoftheferns]

Just saw a post claiming Poison Ivy was made by Neil Gaiman and I am not letting that shit fly. Poison Ivy was created in 1966 by Robert Kanigher and although Neil Gaiman wrote a (disgusting and misogynistic) comic about her in the late 80s, saying Ivy was created by him would be like saying Harley Quinn was created for the first Suicide Squad movie. Like no that is not her origin that is literally the worst version of her

[coffinsister]

talk homestuck to me

I had written another replay yesterday that Tumblr just fucking crashed and erased so now I don't remember what thoughts I was having yesterday

Today I'm only thinking about SpaceTime and how Jade wore her important fancy dress to meet Dave irl for the first time

Like !!! They make me insane !!! Meeting him is such an important thing to her

I had never understood why people would get into fights over ships beyond anti-pro discourse until I began reading this freaking webcomic because oh my god the amount of wasted potential for every single pairing here is astonishing I too would lose my mind

[maddnessmadds]

Honorary gay people. theyre both gay just dont know it yet

[thevillainsfangirl]

I saw someone say that Jarley shippers try really hard to convince people (or convince ourselves??) that Joker isn't abusive.

No, we don't, actually. We simply understand that 2 horrible people (who are horrible with and without each other) harming each other does not result in one (1) party being the abuser.

Why are you so thirsty to defend a serial killer and make her seem like a victim? (I know why: It's because she has a vagina.)

And before you idiots say, "He turned her bad!!"

No. He didn't. Harley was never a good, or even decent, person. She also thought being a criminal sounded "glamorous," but I can't find that panel.

And even if they did have a one-sided abusive relationship, and Harley wasn't a horrible person... Okay? And? They're fictional characters, Karen. It is never that serious. Take off your Puritan "IT'S A BAD INFLUENCE" hat. It is never a writer's or fan's job to water down stories because you let TV and books raise your kids.

[poisonousquinzel]

"I'm nobody. I haven't done anything with my life like you have."

Todd Phillips, Scott Silver, Lady Gaga genuinely, lovingly, fuck you.

I will never forgive you. I hope every day your bones get softer and softer and then one day when you're not expecting it, I shall be there, and I will gnaw through your Achilles heel<3

[duckietie]

Batman open-world VR, but you can kiss the Scarecrow (or the villain of your choice)

Like, you (as your own character, kind of like in BG3 or something) approach him (your desired villain, in my case, Jonathan), throw down a batarang (because in this game you're the newest addition to the batfam), to catch his attention. Then just take him by the hand (because if you choose the Scarecrow romance, or your chosen villain, you get this option), pull him in and say a few romantic words before cupping his cheek and kissing him right on the lips

A girl can dream

[d-1hater]

You love her in a "omg she's so cool, we could be besties!" way

I love her in a much more "go to church and apologize to your mother" way