#had to deal with Adam

[eggcats]

Radioapple where Lucifer realizes he likes Alastor and freaks out because HOW do you FLIRT with someone?!?! Oh, father, he's ruining this before he even has a CHANCE to be rejected. He's basically rejecting himself at this point! (Charlie is the only thing keeping him from taking a century sabbatical and hoping Alastor forgets he exists by then.)

Angel: "Didn't you like, seduce the first 2 women on earth?"

Lucifer: "My only competition was ADAM. I just had to stand there and NOT say, "Nice tits babe!" It wasn't hard!"

Ironically, Lucifer’s version of not-flirting is working on Alastor, because how can he not be charmed by the most powerful being in Hell turning bright gold when he sees him, walking into a wall as he tries to escape, and then panic giving him whatever random rubber duck he happens to have in his hands before portaling away immediately.

(Although he needs to figure something out with the rubber ducks. It's getting ridiculous at this point. He already has an entire bookshelf dedicated to them, and he's running out of space. He needs to talk to Lucifer about perhaps making a business to sell them or something. Or he WOULD, if he could get Lucifer to say more than 5 words to him before running away.)

Alastor eventually gets Lucifer to talk to him by confusing him so much that you can almost see his brain buffering to catch up.

(Alastor makes his OWN rubber duck, and the next time Lucifer shoves one at him, he puts the one he's currently carrying in Lucifer's hands before he can leave. Alastor can not believe this worked.)

[motherdanger]

Sawtober 2023 | Day 19 & 20: Trap & Family

Maybe the real saw trap is the family we made along the way ❤️

Full prompt list here. 🐝

01 | 02 | 03 | 04 | 05 | 06 | 07 | 08 | 09 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31

[dunmeshiminimumwage]

back when i worked at [large chain coffee store], i tried to unionize my workplace. my manager sat me down and gave me a very guilt trip-y talk. lots of "but i thought we were a family :(" and "you don't *really* know what unionization does, do you?" i played dumb and managed to avoid being fired, but. chilchuck momence.

[things-arent-what-they-seem66]

Qhen Adam dug up Abel's corpse he would treat it like his son was alive and even have dinner with the corpse.

Eve: Adam, you need to let him go, okay? He needs to rest.

Adam: Eve! I will not abandon our son! He's recovering, and he needs his family!

Eve: It's a corpse, Adam! He's dead!

It was after this that Eve burned Abel's body and buried the bones where Adam couldn't find them.

Adam: Where's my BOY!??!

Eve: He's dead!

Adam: NOOOO!!!!

[syncrovoid-presents]

Alastor's Deal (Thoughts, Theories, and some Predictions)

This won't answer the who, but aims to dig into the why, and plausibly narrow down the terms of the deal. Long post ahead!

Evidence

First off, the finale was incredible! But what Alastor's song showed was that his ""death"" against Adam wasn't entirely a surprise, but rather planned. Alastor's song revealed that he was looking for a loop in the contract, a way to slip past the deal without having to directly break it. He already made a deal with Charlie for a favour, but that might have been a safety net of sorts, something to guarantee himself a fighting chance if his "dying for the hotel" plan failed.

His surprise was at how fast it happened, not that he nearly died. Alastor craves control, he wears his smile for control, he makes deals for control, his magic highly influenced by controlling others too. His Modus Operandi is control, and he faced the battle it started with him being in control. He was outwitting Adam, he was faster, sneakier, even kept his hands behind his back while dodging just to show how little effort it took. But Adam's weapon sending an angelic beam of power? That wasn't in his plan, that wasn't in his control.

Control is something Alastor seeks over everything, which is why the deal is so brutal for him. The deal takes control from him, and his constant smiling and jokes and contained urges for violence is him trying to have some sort of freedom. It's highly implied that, unless it's for the hotel, he hasn't used his magic for his own reasons. He hasn't eaten or killed anyone unless it is for the hotel, and even that was implied to happen only during the Mimzy incident. He hasn't gotten to make any deals either, at least no real deals, no deals for souls.

I'm far from the first one to say that his deal is forcing him to help the hotel, but it's only now that we see the true extent. Alastor's entire personality, goals, and being has been changed against his will. He is now a tool for the hotel, the sword and shield, the magical provider, bringing them whatever they need to succeed despite the odds. Without him, it would just be Charlie, Vaggie, and Angel Dust. Sir Pentious wouldn't have joined, repairs would've taken far longer, the staff would've been just Charlie and Vaggie, et cetera. Even his deals are just him trying to gain something out of helping the hotel.

Alastor is bound to the hotel and his powers are also bound to the hotel. He cannot be selfish, he cannot do anything unless it's for the hotel no matter how desperately he wants to do otherwise. And yet it seems like his powers are limited too.

Alastor has immense levels of powers, so much that he was taking down a large portion of the angel army single handedly. Had Adam not been there, it's not outlandish to claim that Alastor could have taken down the angel army by himself. This is why he was feared. This is why "no one crosses the radio demon". If these are his powers when their limited, imagine just how powerful he truly is?

The last evidence I'll state before moving on is that Alastor didn't return back to the hotel until it was rebuilt, yet still didn't use his magic to cause chaos.

To simplify, on his end the deal forces him to use his immense power for the benefit of the hotel. He cannot actively do anything to bring harm to it, and he cannot use his magic unless it's for the good of the hotel. And he cannot escape from the deal if the hotel is destroyed, so the deal isn't about the physical hotel, but rather the concept of it. As long as the hazbin hotel exists in the heart of those involved, Alastor is bound to help.

Why?

Now the why? I believe that, whoever he made the deal with him was, they want the hotel to succeed. Not only that, I believe that by forcing Alastor to stay there and help while limiting his capability for violence, they are also trying to rehabilitate Alastor.

Wherever Alastor was before the hotel opened, it was somewhere where he couldn't interact with anyone. He was forced to be gone, only until the hotel opened. If the theories of Alastor making a deal with Lilith is true, then Lilith's character is important to consider. From what we know she is powerful and worked to bring dekonkind together. And that she too disappeared 7 years ago.

It's confirmed that Alastor destroyed many of the worse evils that existed in hell, the only ancient overlords that remain are civil and take part of overlord meetings. They are controlled, contained. There's more structure, and the only truly out of control, dangerous demon to remain would have been Alastor. It's possible that Lilith realized that she could use him to "clean up hell", waiting her time until Alastor was the last remaining biggest threat. That was when she pounced, seven years ago to capture him in a deal. We don't know why he would accept such a limiting deal, but I'd wager that it could have been for his life (either she was threatening him, or he nearly died and made a deal for his life).

Now that the deal is made, Alastor can't bring mindless chaos. If anything he is doing the most to help demons be saved from the extermination either through redemption or protection (we also didn't see him prior to the last, so perhaps he's also bound to protect during the extermination too?).

All while Alastor is handling and ensuring the success of the largest and most helpful demon-centered support system, Lilith is on vacation. Almost like Alastor is acting in her role, a mimicry of a spiritual successor of sorts. He's helping rally the demons together, helping shape Charlie into a better leader, helping prove demons can be redeemed. All while Alastor is either witness, participant, or manager of the strategies used to redeem sinners. Alastor is only a few steps away from taking part of the redemption program himself.

If Alastor's deal was with Lilith, then she's getting everything she could want. All the uncontrollable evils/overlords destroyed, a muzzle on (one of the most) powerful sadistic demons, someone to help guide her daughter, help demons redeem themselves, protection for her citizens from being killed or further tortured, and she finally gets a vacation. She'd be getting everything she could want, with the bonus of possibly rehabilitating Alastor in the process.

It's no wonder Alastor is so desperate to break out of the deal, to find a backdoor in the contract. This goes against everything he stands for. The stories of him broadcasting screams? Of killing overloards and owning soul after soul after soul? That is the real him, and it isn't exaggerated. If Alastor wasn't chained, he'd have the power and strength to destroy large swaths of hell himself. If he decided to do his own extermination with angelic weapons? He could kill as many demons as the angels do and more, because he wouldn't be limited by a single day period.

If his deal is with someone else? We simply don't have enough information yet to name them then. Whoever it is, they would have to believe in demonkind's potential for improvement, and possibly fear what Alastor is able to do.

Predictions

The last thing I want to touch upon is how Alastor might be able to escape the deal. First is what he tried, which is "dying" for the hotel. Or, more precisely, for everyone involved in the hotel, it was as if he died, so why would they still depend on him?

Next would be for the hotel to be destroyed, and considering that we don't know if Alastor was briefly free while he recovered or if he was just hiding out somewhere new because he couldn't stay in the hotel because it didn't exist, this one is still iffy. If part of his deal is staying at the hotel to actively protect it, the he was temporarily freed from that condition. Yet once it was rebuilt Alastor returned, proving that the destruction of the hotel building wouldn't free him.

The next possible way could be the death of the hazbin hotel spirit. If Alastor (or outside forces) were able to destroy Charlie's hope for the hotel just like Lucifer's dreams were crushed, perhaps Alastor would be freed. Considering how the finale went, it would take a lot for this to happen.

My final idea, and the one I predict will happen, is that Alastor outfits the person he made the deal with. He doesn't find a true "out", but rather will manipulate them into giving his power back. And this? I believe that Alastor's deal with Charlie was made for this reason.

If indeed the deal was with Lilith, and part of the deal seems to be ensuring Charlie's dreams come true, then Charlie is a delightful way for Alastor to manipulate the situation. How? Who knows, but I think that this will be a large part of the conflict of season 2.

[rainbow-beanie]

Favorite scene from hazbin hotel episode 8 deal bound deal maker

My boy is NOT okay. Not in the slightest.

I have to agree that alastor was rightfully terrified that he almost got killed by adam, cause keep in mind, if he had so much as made a wrong move in that fight, he would have died and that would have been it for him, he would either be entirely separated by everyone else in some unknown space in hell, or he would have ceased to exist. Both options are entirely possible and the thought of that happening to him terrifies me beyond belief.

But he can’t let it get out that he, The Radio Demon had been scared by some measly angel, he has the reputation as someone who should be feared, so whatever he might be feeling afterwards should be tightly hidden away from prying eyes and ears. Cause nothing is more horrible in hell than a scared demon, for a scared demon makes a vulnerable one.

[sallysellsseashellssundays]

Thinking about ‘The Long Game’ and how the Doctor says Adam is Rose’s boyfriend and she immediately says “not anymore”

And just the entirety of her on-off relationship with Mickey

I feel like there’s something to be said too about how it’s implied Jackie is always with a new man...but she always loved Pete

Idk where I’m going with this exactly but I feel like dating for Rose must have been a very casual thing she learned from Jackie, I really never even got the sense that she and Mickey were in a serious relationship (neither one of them treated it that way honestly)

Maybe it’s why it’s so impactful when she talks about how the Doctor isn’t her boyfriend because he’s more important than that

[dragonmouses]

Neither of them die but they still can't stand each other AU :

Frankenstein : For what it's worth... I'm sorry I failed you as a "father''.

Adam : It's a shame it had to wait all the harm done.

Frankenstein : Say the guy who couldn't wait to actually meet me before murdering a child out of spite.

Adam : Say the guy who wished he could have abort me 1 minute after I was born just because I'm ugly.

Frankenstein : Say the...

Clerval : Will the two of you shut up ?

[911-wassup-bby]

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[marc--chilton]

(mgv) now if you want an alpha with a breeding kink, look no further than lawrence. he's destroying that twink as we speak

[fandomrouletteburrito]

I’m actually wondering if Alastor’s own confidence came back to bite him in the ass against Adam in more ways than one

Cuz when I saw the matchup it made no sense to me?

Angelic beings such as Adam(ew) can only be killed/injured with an Angelic weapon

Alastor’s attacks all it could’ve done is tire Adam out but it won’t be able to actually harm him enough to take him out of the fight

Charlie can probably because she is the child of Lucifer, her weapons and status automatically give her access to some of the same weaponry that would injure an Angel. Notice the weapon she uses against Adam seems to be her own Demonic Weapon, not like the ones that the rest of cast used to defend themselves.

And from what we saw Alastor didn’t have any new weapons with specifically Angelic steel in them to cause any actual damage to Adam beyond being a nusiance like a fly. Alastor just used his mic as always and his own powers that we know fundamentally do not work against Angelic beings. He even got a hit to Adams face and it didn’t draw any blood so he resorted to throwing Adam around but even that didn’t make Adam bleed

I fully think a better line up would’ve been if Charlie from the start fought Adam but I can also see Alastor just going: I’ve got this

When he infact, does not got this and knows it but wants to prove he can take on Adam without using Adam’s singular weakness

[littleoddwriter]

so... now that it's confirmed that Cooper's last name is, indeed, "Abbott"... do we go back and change it/move forward like "Adams" never happened? hwdjshjkfh (this is a rhetorical question, btw. everybody can do what they want, I just think it's funny)

tbh, I'll use both tags anyway because Cooper Adams has been so ingrained in our small community since the beginning, because of Wikipedia saying that. it's the wiki's fault, dhkfsgfkj (but also, I totally heard "Abbott" both times I watched it and I was so confused when I read Adams on Wiki and on Tumblr, but I get it. mistakes happen! maybe it was Adams in the script at first? who knows. doesn't matter!) but I'm gonna change his last name to Abbott in my writing

also, the evidence of the Wiki saying this before it gets changed and we all look weird to newcomers, fksdfshjkfsf

[keets-writing-corner]

you know what I've been thinking about lately? (forgive me the subtitles aren't working)

but basically yeah the whole mention that both Lilith and Alastor were gone for the same amount of time and this COULD mean she's the one on the end of his leash after all stories don't just give details out like that unless they're meant to be strung together somehow

but you know what I think

anyone know the whole "correlation is not causation" BS that companies like to preach about. Yeah drives me nuts too anyways

in my university science classes I finally got a better explanation for it and basically, it very frequently is a case of "yeah these two things seem to be connected somehow, WHAT IS THE THING THAT IS CONNECTING THEM?"

the hilarious example my professor gave was murder rates and ice cream sales going up, and the verdict is when it gets hotter, apparently ppl are more trigger happy on the violence cuz cranky, and also, more ppl are buying ice cream. I think she just said this to be ridiculous BUT

MY POINT BEING

Maybe Lilith is the one behind alastor's leash sure

but MAYBE there's a third component going on. Alastor and Lilith have SOME sort of connection that caused this 7 year absence, but that doesn't necessarily tie them to each other? if that makes sense?

idk I'm just rambling, but I swear we're missing a third piece to this puzzle

[unimportantweirdo]

how can people be angry at reid for strangling cat?

she framed him for murder, put him in prison, kidnapped his mom, claimed to be pregnant with his baby and then insulted his mother repeatedly to his face

bitch i would have attacked her too?? just for the insulting my mother bit??

[yellow-dejavu]

i think a lot about this picture because there are other people besides the 6 that we know, and they never explained who the others were supposed to be...

so I like to think that it was really just the 6 of them and that they decided to bring in random people to take a picture to make their cult look more legit.

idk, but I can imagine sic mundus doing random and dramatic shit like that, maybe they just thought the more people it would look better for the aesthetics of the photo.

i'd like to know who suggested it, and who told Adam to wear a hat for the picture, or maybe it was his idea.

this photo is so iconic.