#gothic media

[can-of-w0rmz]

The Herr Englishman 🕯🦇

[basilsbestpainting]

Saltburn is like if Wuthering Heights fucked up relationship dynamics hate fucked with The Picture of Dorian Gray's internalized homophobia to get a modern Gothic tale that'll live rent free in my head forever

[positively--speculative]

I can see in a future season of IWTV Daniel interviewing Lestat about the domestic violence in s1e5 and this whole thing being set up where Lestat is telling his side and things are coming to that part. Daniel asks a couple of questions regarding that specific event and it plays out something like this:

'And you say you loved him?'

'I *do* love him.'

'And I suppose you're going to tell me that the events of that night didn't exactly play out the way Louis said.'

'Oh, no Louis was forthcoming about that. The events played out exactly as he said they did.'

And I see it happening this way because as I've said before, the gothic genre of storytelling is not meant to validate a desire for uncomplicated answers to questions as to what something as complex as *love* is. Love can be kind but it can also be cruel, and the gothic genre forces us to be confronted with that disturbing reality. A bad person like Lestat can still feel emotions like love and *still* be a bad person. The idea is *supposed* to be uncomfortable.

The desire some in the fandom have (especially white fans) for the abuse to be retconned shows a misunderstanding for the gothic genre. Gothic stories teach us that both of these things can be true: A person can be in love with someone and hurt that same person *intentionally.* The fact that Louis takes him back is a part of what makes the story disturbing. Their love story isn't supposed to be simple. A simple, uncomplicated story simply does not belong in this genre.

[prettyboyprettyeyes]

Movies i wanna watch

the craft

sleepy hallow

sweeny todd

edward scissorhands

interview with the vampire

pans labyrinth

dead poets society

maid and nancy

bram stokers dracula

queen of the damned

the crow

the witches of eastwick

labyrinth

suburban gothic

the oxford murders

the virgin suicides

crimson peak

death becomes her

devils advocate

mary shelley’s frankenstein

the man in the iron mask

Irma Vep

[horrible-horrible-hawk]

planning a frankenstein movie post for soon,, we finished it today and holy shit. amazing

[talesfromthecrypts]

I get so frustrated by "yeah make vampires scary again" stuff every time a vampire movie has a "monster" vampire (Nosferatu, Voyage of the Demeter, etc). It reeks of an attitude that thinks all horror is about something being ugly and horrifying on the outside. If you can't see the horror in Interview With the Vampire, or a Jean Rollin film, or The Hunger, or Carmilla, or the vampire sections of Baldur's Gate because they are attractive that is absolutely an issue on your end. There is such a rich well of themes to dig into with horror and vampires, especially where sex and romance are concerned, but people are so desperate to separate romance and horror. The despair of being frozen as a child even while your mind matures, the loneliness of an eternity alone, the terror of eternal hunger that can't be sated, the awful seduction by something beautiful but monstrous. Trying to turn vampires into just any other monster doesn't make them more horrifying, its just a more kind of overt horror that can only be done so many times and is often covered better by other monsters.

[nevershootamockingbird]

[ begin id: a screenshot of tumblr tags that read “#everyone wants a virginal maiden in a nightgown exploring the haunted manor halls with a candelabra #but NO ONE wants to talk about why the house is haunted and how the ghost died and what twisted mangled corpse pile it’s unfulfilled flesh #now resides”  / end id ]

when internet people are like “i love gothic literature but i hate anything that discusses incest, sexual violence, oppression, misogyny, abuse, torture, gore, murder, or death”

[evydraws]

"It seemed as if the whole, awful creature were simply gorged with blood; he lay like a filthy leech, exhausted with his repletion."

Bram Stoker's Dracula | portfolio | prints

[can-of-w0rmz]

Pov you repeatedly find cool sounding modern “gothic” media only to find out it’s really shit overly edgy 13-year-old’s-Wattpad-story level shit that romanticises suicide and mental illness “depression and self harm is quirky and everyone else with a mental illness is crazy” style instead of commentating on and delving into it and exploring the darkest elements of the human condition through romanticism without presenting them as a good thing or gatekeeping who has it worse:

[marzipanandminutiae]

why be the gothic ingenue when you can be the overly invested lesbian caretaker

Mrs. Dudleycore

Mrs. Danverscore

Lucille Sharpecore

[circslai]

[positively--speculative]

You know, now that I'm thinking about it, another piece of media that threw me when it came to the subject of love was The Ring. Like, I saw that movie for the first time when I was 13, and I could not put my finger on why it stuck with me and made me deeply unsettled beyond the obvious horror.

But in recent years, I kind of figured it out. It was because Samara loved her adoptive mother, Anna, but still placed those horrible images in her head and killed her horses who she loved. I always felt sorry for Samara and that's the scary part. Samara was literally a "bad kid" who couldn't be saved with love.

I feel like IWTV gives me similar feelings, but with a different kind of love. Lestat loves Louis but still hurts him intentionally similar to how Samara loves her mother but hurts her intentionally. And both Louis and Anna make reluctant attempts to murder the ones they love to be free, because killing who they love is the only way they feel they can be free.

[threeheadedtrinity]

Dawne Raulet, Sven (c. 2018)

[inkyami]

Something wicked this way comes

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