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yuexias · 24 days
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the urge to write some long long threads....
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gingermintpepper · 23 days
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In my Zeus bag today so I'm just gonna put it out there that exactly none of the great Ancient Greek warrior-heroes stayed loyal and faithful and completely monogamous and yet none of them have their greatness questioned nor do we question why they had the cultural prominence that they did and still do.
Jason, the brilliant leader of the Argo, got cold feet when it came to Medea - already put off by some of her magic and then exiled from his birthland because of her political ploys, he took Creusa to bed and fully intended on marrying her despite not properly dissolving things with Medea.
Theseus was a fierce warrior and an incredibly talented king but he had a horrible temper and was almost fatally weak to women. This is the man who got imprisoned in the Underworld for trying to get a friend laid, the man who started the whole Attic War because he couldn't keep his legs closed.
And we cannot at all forget Heracles for whom a not inconsiderable amount of his joy in life was loving people then losing the people around him that he loved. Wives, children, serving boys, mentors, Heracles had a list of lovers - male and female - long enough to rival some gods and even after completing his labours and coming down to the end of his life, he did not have one wife but three.
And y'know what, just because he's a cultural darling, I'll put Achilles up here too because that man was a Theseus type where he was fantastic at the thing he was born to do (that is, fight whereas Theseus' was to rule) but that was not enough to eclipse his horrid temper and his weakness to young pretty things. This is the man that killed two of Apollo's sons because they wouldn't let him hit - Tenes because he refused to let Achilles have his sister and Troilus who refused Achilles so vehemently that he ran into Apollo's temple to avoid him and still couldn't escape.
All four of these men are still celebrated as great heroes and men. All four of these men are given the dignity of nuance, of having their flaws treated as just that, flaws which enrich their character and can be used to discuss the wider cultural point of what truly makes a hero heroic. All four of these men still have their legacies respected.
Why can that same mindset not be applied to Zeus? Zeus, who was a warrior-king raised in seclusion apart from his family. Zeus who must have learned to embrace the violence of thunder for every time he cried as a babe, the Corybantes would bang their shields to hide the sound. Zeus learned to be great because being good would not see the universe's affairs in its order.
The wonderful thing about sympathy is that we never run out of it. There's no rule stopping us from being sympathetic to multiple plights at once, there's no law that necessitate things always exist on the good-evil binary. Yes, Zeus sentenced Prometheus to sufferation in Tartarus for what (to us) seems like a cruel reason. Prometheus only wanted to help humans! But when you think about Prometheus' actions from a king's perspective, the narrative is completely different: Prometheus stole divine knowledge and gifted it to humans after Zeus explicitly told him not to. And this was after Prometheus cheated all the gods out of a huge portion of wealth by having humans keep the best part of a sacrifice's meat while the gods must delight themselves with bones, fat and skin. Yes, Zeus gave Persephone away to Hades without consulting Demeter but what king consults a woman who is not his wife about the arrangement of his daughter's marriage to another king? Yes, Zeus breaks the marriage vows he set with Hera despite his love of her but what is the Master of Fate if not its staunchest slave?
The nuance is there. Even in his most bizarre actions, the nuance and logic and reason is there. The Ancient Greeks weren't a daft people, they worshipped Zeus as their primary god for a reason and they did not associate him with half the vices modern audiences take issue with. Zeus was a father, a visitor, a protector, a fair judge of character, a guide for the lost, the arbiter of revenge for those that had been wronged, a pillar of strength for those who needed it and a shield to protect those who made their home among the biting snakes. His children were reflections of him, extensions of his will who acted both as his mercy and as his retribution, his brothers and sisters deferred to him because he was wise as well as powerful. Zeus didn't become king by accident and it is a damn shame he does not get more respect.
#ginger rambles#ginger chats about greek myths#greek mythology#It's Zeus Apologist day actually#For the record Jason is my personal favourite of these guys#The argonauts are extremely underrated for literally no reason#And Jason's wit and sheer ability to adapt along with his piousness are traits that are so far away from what usually gets highlighted#with the typical Greek warrior-hero that I've just never stopped being captivated by him#Conversely I still do not understand what people see in Achilles#I respect him and his legacy I respect the importance of his tale and his cultural importance I promise I do#However I personally can't stand the guy LMAO#How do you get warned twice TWICE both by your mother and by Athena herself that going after Apollo's children is a bad idea#And still have the audacity to be mad and surprised when Apollo is gunning for Specifically You during the war you're bringing to His City#That You Specifically and Exclusively had a choice in avoiding#ACHILLES COULD'VE JUST SAID NO#I know that's not the point however so many other members of the Greek camp were simply casualties of Fate in every conceivable way man#Achilles looked at every terrible choice he could possibly make said “Well I'm gonna die anyway 🤷🏽” and proceeded to make the choice#so hard that he angered god#That's y'all's man right there#I left out Perseus because truthfully I don't actually know much about him#I haven't studied him even a fraction as much as I've studied some of the other big culture heroes and none of this is cited so i don't wan#to talk about stuff I don't know 100%#Anyway justice for Zeus fr#Gimme something give me literally anything other than the nonsense we usually get for him#This goes for Hera too btw#Both the king and queen of the skies are done TERRIBLY by wider greek myth audiences and it's genuinely disheartening to see#If y'all could make excuses for Achilles to forgive his flaws y'all can do it for them#They have a lot more to sympathise with I'll tell you that#(that is a completely biased statement; you are completely free and encouraged to enjoy whichever figures spark joy)#zeus
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aromanticannibal · 6 months
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tbh I think as bkdk lovers we don't use izuku calling katsuki an idiot often enough
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kat-xox · 9 months
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you know what james potter needs?
more blood.
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respectthepetty · 2 months
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I don't want these two to just kiss!
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I want the entire hospital to be worried about the loud noises coming from random empty rooms.
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I want HR violations.
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I want them playing the kinkiest version of doctor and patient!
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I want them on each other YESTERDAY!
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Give them to me!
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oobbbear · 2 months
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I’ve been switching fandom FAST lately feels weird not to stick to something till the heat death of universe
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littlegeecko · 1 year
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Scarab vs Prismo: Touch
Sometimes i ask myself if it would be more fitting for Prismo or Scarab to be touch starved, or new to touch and physical connections of some kind generally. Prismo mostly because he's a projection on the wall and prolly never had another 2d being alongside him
but then i remember a very important factor: Past experiences
Prismo might be 2d, but it doesnt mean he has never felt the touch of another person, like Jake hugging him at any chance he had, or other godly beings coming in to playfully interact with him despite him being flat, he can even get in the water of the pool; Prismo has had friends and connections, and even touch by those outside the walls, he surely is more familiar to that
Scarab just, isn't
If his personality , reactions and the "i was never invited to parties" comment is anything go by, this guy doesn't have many friends, none if we delve too into it as in him not considering anyone close enough to be his friend, he might be a 3d being, but i dont think he has platonic, simple touch from his peers in the regular as Prismo does.
So at the end, at least in my opinion it makes a lot more sense for Scarab to be the one taken aback somuch by Prismo's touch, specially in his light form; its a whole new sensation and he didnt even get the regular sensation to being with! its insane, but he cant get enough of it. Is this what he's been missing? i guess it doesnt matter so much anymore now that he's been demoted to apprentice wishmaster...
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heyitsmemel · 8 months
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hi hello gals and gays. Here is a rare wav from me struggling with the flu. The virus has mainly been in my chest but my entire body is so wrecked I was able to induce super easily. No talking bc I’m literally unable to 😭 Do not listen if you can't stand harsh coughing because it gets a bit rough. If it sounds a bit weird the first half of the recording is from yesterday and the second half is from today, bc the coughing is so much worse in the second half lmao. Ok that's it thankkk you for feeding me so good lately tumblr love u all <3
also personal rant about ableism and intentional contagion in the comments :///
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ratatatastic · 2 months
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it will never not surprise me how much footage there is of luosty being a drunk menace and trying to steal alcohol off his teammates. on this edition of mikksy is the victim this time and he does in fact get knicked of two tinnies 😭😭😭
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its okay mikksy gets his beer in the end (hes sat where theres a box full of em at his feet and he bends down to collect some and its why luosty feels so comfortable stealing from him its because hes lazy and its easier to just take from mikksy than to bend around him to get it XD)
Panthers Championship Parade | 6.30.24 (x)
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wikitpowers · 3 months
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dru blackthorn in faerie will fuck. me. up. like can u imagine her in a corset??? and a long flowy skirt??? looking like a goddess??? and imagine we get art!!!
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transmasc-tabris · 3 months
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Me: I'm normal.
Also me: Now has an entire skin and hair tone and eye color reference sheet so I can draw my Rook more easily and consistently.
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sweetnnaivete · 2 months
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not a big fan of seer pandora tbh bc people would take her seriously. she's scary and intimidating like that, she would command attention. not only that, but i don't see her as this very dreamy type of person prone to have prophecies. she's like evan, very clinical and science-minded. if i'm completely honest, i don't think she'd like divination at all.
sybill on the other hand is canonically a seer. sure, she doesn't have visions as much as she says, but she's still a seer, she's just a little crazy. and sure, we can ignore canon for fun. but i also think playing into her being a seer is interesting. unlike pandora, she doesn't really have friends, and she has no one to believe her. she is the cassandra of harry potter. she may not have clear visions, but she has gut feelings, night terrors, fever dreams. she sees everything around her in perfect clarity, but can do nothing, doesn't want to do anything, because she feels nothing but resent for the people who have made fun of her for years. who would believe her anyway?
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grimalkinmessor · 11 months
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The way that I—
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lindentea · 3 months
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a representation problem in the Hellaverse...
Yesterday I wrote a post about my feelings on the complete lack of polyamorous/non-monogamous relationships in Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel, but I wanted to talk about how both series are also severely lacking in lesbian and trans characters.
We have ONE trans character with multiple speaking lines (Sallie May), and she's a minor character. Angel and Fizz might be nonbinary/genderfluid, or might "just" be effeminate twinks (although those aren't necessarily mutually exclusive). And we have ONE recurring lesbian character (Vaggie). At least, it's generally assumed by the fandom that she's a lesbian, even though Vivzie has chosen not to canonize any of her characters' sexual orientations.
I do appreciate that there are a lot of trans imps in the background in Helluva Boss, and that it seems commonplace enough to be no big deal at all in imp society. I really hope that Sallie May returns a little more often.
There is only one sapphic relationship in either series. One!! Aside from Charlie, there aren't any other explicitly bi/pan female characters, either (except maybe in the background, or as an off-hand comment).
This feels like some kind of Bechdel Test variant, doesn't it... There are so many queer characters in both series-- plenty of characters who are gay, bi, pan, and ace-- errrrr... well aaaaaactuallyyy I just realized there's not much ace rep either, huh? There's Alastor, and mayyybee Striker. Striker could certainly be ace and squicked out by sex, orrrr he could just be increasingly pissed off that his attempts to be scary and threatening keep getting foiled by his targets turning the tables on him with sexual innuendos, lol. It's honestly unclear. And if a character is neither in a relationship, nor do they actually ever mention that they're ace, it's... pretty hard to definitively say.
I still love both series, and I love the rampant queerness, and I don't want the number of gay/bi male characters/pairings to decrease (representation is not a pie chart), but man... Throw us lesbians/sapphics and trans peeps a bone, plz? Maybe take a few lessons from Steven Universe?
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hecksupremechips · 6 months
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Can we talk about mitsuham I think we should talk about mitsuham yes I’d like that very much
Imagine Mitsuru her life has been planned out for her by a bunch of men her choices are not hers to make every move is political she is nothing but a tool forced to fight as a child never allowed to burden anyone with her feelings. Her life isn’t hers, it’s never been hers for a second, she exists to further the careers of the men around her. The first two friends she makes are both boys and she was in charge of leading them, using them just to further the Kirijo agenda. Genuine friendship did blossom between them, but things fell apart pretty quickly. Shinjiro can’t control Castor, something is seriously wrong with him, he kills someone, then he leaves and the Kirijos cover it up. Was it to protect him, or to protect themselves? Mitsuru certainly doesn’t know anymore but she’s lost a friend and can’t reach him again, he’s too traumatized by personas and Akihiko is still there but he’s always so stuck on Shinjiro and Mitsuru feels like she failed both of them. Just more men for her to let down by not being good enough
Then there’s Kotone. Sweet, strong, clumsy, talented Kotone. She’s so bubbly and friendly, but behind those warm smiles is horrible loneliness. Pain. But she’s never ever gonna let anyone see that. She busies herself by taking care of everyone else, listening to their problems and never burdening them with her own feelings. She can just fix everything and make everyone happy if she works herself hard enough. She just has this way about her, so reliable and so kind
And Mitsuru watches Kotone from above. Trusts her to be the leader, or maybe she just wanted to push a burden onto someone else for a change. Someone who’s able to take on burdens with a smile for fucks sake. And Kotone leads, seemingly effortlessly, and is able to recruit several members in a short time and achieve just so much more than Mitsuru could in her entire lifetime. Just, perfectly. Without even possessing any prior knowledge of the dark hour or personas. And she does this while being so emotional, so social, so weird, so fucking cute, it’s absolutely nauseating. This should be fine, right? It’s what Mitsuru’s always wanted, for someone else to ease her burden. And hell, it’s a woman too, a woman who’s perfectly capable of doing it all without a bunch of men helping her. It’s inspiring, isn’t it?
But there’s the pain. The envy. Kotone is perfect and she doesn’t even have to try. Mitsuru on the other hand has been shaving herself down to nothing just to be allowed a place. She makes the perfect grades and wears the beautiful clothes and applies the fucking makeup and is mature for her age and never speaks out or feels anything that could possibly make her be seen as a human, a filthy fucking human. So why does a woman as unashamed as Kotone get to have it all? And why is Mitsuru still here, still acting as the Kirijo tool, still doing whatever she possibly can to hurt herself to make a man feel better? Why isn’t she useful anywhere? It’s not fair
And then when she actually spends the time with Kotone she’s trying so hard to be that wise and mature figure she’s always been, trying so hard to force herself to smile through the pain, but she’s talking to someone who can see right through that shit cuz Kotone Shiomi invented lying through her teeth to make others feel better. It’s annoying really, how Kotone is supposed to be the childish one, yet it’s Mitsuru who can’t get it together and can’t seem to look into those bright eyes without breaking. And Kotone isn’t disgusted by what she sees, even though Mitsuru is being unreasonable and emotional and talking about wanting to run away and how much she hates her life and how she’s not only eating fast food but enjoying it, letting herself enjoy an indulgence that won’t make her pretty anymore. No, Kotone sees this and listens and encourages it and celebrates it, celebrates how utterly human Mitsuru is. She holds her hand and says "let me take on your burden". And it’s horrible, this kindness, Mitsuru hasn’t even broken all her bones to make Kotone happy, so why is she being so fucking nice? And then something breaks, and Kotone defends her. Stands up for her against a man. Lets herself once again take a hit to protect someone else. And it’s just too familiar, too much to fucking bear, and it pisses Mitsuru the fuck off. And she is able to tell a man to go fuck himself, because no one gets to fucking talk to this girl like she isn’t the most amazing person ever to exist. Not after everything she’s done, everything she still does, not after giving her all and never once asking for anything in return. And in standing up for Kotone, Mitsuru is able to stand up for herself for the first time in her life. And she looks at Kotone and says "let’s take on each other’s burdens"
Oh and also they watch a scary movie together and hold hands and ride a motorcycle and Mitsuru calls Kotone adorable I mean that’s pretty gay man
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