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martinakl13 · 7 months ago
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I think a lot about what the way they talk can tell us about our Crows. For example, interjections.
Unsurprisingly, Nina and Inej use all variants with Saints (Saints; All Saints; For Saints' sake) and Wylan uses Ghezen (Ghezen; Ghezen and his works). Matthias of course has Djel (Djel; Sweet Djel; For Djel's sake).
Now comes the interesting part. Jesper uses Saints, many times in his own creative way (Saints; All Saints; For Saints' sake; All Saints and your Aunt Eve; All Saints and the donkeys they rode in on) and (!) he also uses Ghezen (Sweet Ghezen). It's quite obvious that Jesper adopted Ghezen during his long stay in Ketterdam, but since he uses Saints much more often, it seems like something he got from his father as a child, since Colm also said many similar things in CK (All Saints; Saints; For Saints' sake). Do they recognise Saints on Wandering Isle? Probably.
And then there's Kaz. What do you think of his interjections? Have you noticed or thought about it? Kaz out loud never used any! Not Ghezen, not Saints, not Djel. There is only one exception where the interjection was part of his inner monologue.
Chapter 3, SoC:
"As Kaz headed down one of the little canals that would take him past Fifth Harbour, he realised he felt – Saints, he almost felt hopeful."
Oh yes, Kaz in his head when no one could hear him automatically used Saints and it wasn't because he wanted to mentally tease Inej about her Saints. I think the moment he felt almost hope, something from his past slipped out of the dark parts of his mind where he buried everything related to his family. Do we know for sure that Ghezen is the only god the Kerch people know? What about people from the countryside? Do they honour the god of industry, commerce and trade, or someone else who is closer to them? Who remembers where Marya Hendriks was kept? The Church of Saint Hilde. In addition, we also know two Kerch saints, Sankta Margaretha and Sankt Emerens. Coincidence? I don't think so.
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skepticalcatfrog · 7 months ago
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I have a lot of feelings about Benedikt's grief in the first bit of Our Violent Ends and how he deals with it/how it affects his relationships with other people, but I don't know how to put it eloquently so I'll sum it up by saying I want that shit injected into my veins
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she-posts-nerdy-stuff · 3 months ago
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hi!!! I’m losing my mind and can’t find this in the books anywhere and need to check with someone else… in any of the grishaverse books does it mention the merchers wives going to the house of barter to scrub the floors?!? I might be making this up out of my little mind but it’s so specific idk how I could be!!!
Hi my darling, so sorry for the late reply, and yes I think I know which bit you're talking about - I think you might just be struggling to find it because you've got two (strongly linked) references crisscrossed over each other, but I'm pretty sure that the part you're thinking of is about Hellgate
In chapter 6 of Six of Crows, Nina's first POV chapter, she describes the smells in Hellgate upon their arrival and the quote is as follows:
They entered a dark, surprisingly clean kitchen, its walls lined with huge vats that looked more suited to laundry than cooking. The room smelled strange, like vinegar and sage. Like a mercher's kitchen, Nina thought. The Kerch believed that work was akin to prayer. Maybe the merchant wives came here to scrub the floors and walls and windows, to honour Ghezen, the god of industry and commerce, with soap and water and the chafing of their hands. Nina resisted the urge to gag. They could scrub all they liked. Beneath that wholesome scent was the inedible stench of mildew, urine, and unwashed bodies. It might take an actual miracle to dislodge it
(In the Collector's Edition this is on page 90)
This is such an important quote for me in terms of worldbuilding and I won't go on about it now but I super quickly want to add that it is very well set up to parallel Inej's flashback in Crooked Kingdom when she says "he smelled of vanilla, but beneath it she could smell garlic"
The other section that I'm wondering if you might be thinking of is in Crooked Kingdom when they're talking about Radmakker's sister, this one was harder to find but I think this is the quote on your mind:
It was Jellen Radmakker, one of the investors tget had invited to Jesper's absurb presentation on oil futures. From the investiagtion she'd done for Kaz, Inej knew that he was scrupulously honest, a devout man with no family except an equally pious sister who spent her days scrubbing the floors of public buildings in service to Ghezen.
This is from Chapter 32 of Crooked Kingdom (page 435 in the Collector's Edition) and the scene takes place in the Church of Barter so I wonder if that's what you were thinking of?
I hope that this was helpful!! I honestly love this world building detail, I think it's so fascinating, and I think that not only can we take the second quote as a point of evidence to support the first but there are also others, such as when Alys is hemming curtains before Wylan leaves the house, that add to the validity of Nina's theory as well. Thanks so much for the ask! <33
(This has been episode 5 of 'DK Finally Gets It Together And Answers Her Asks Because It's About Damn Time (working title)' thank you very much for joining me, on the off chance anyone might be interested then the rest of the series can be found here)
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grishaverse-said · 1 year ago
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Jesper: i learned some very valuable lessons from this.
Inej: i'm guessing they are all horrible distortions on the lessons you actually should've taken away.
Jesper: death isn't real, and i'm basically God.
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arillusionist · 10 months ago
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idk if its just me but the way this line is phrased makes it seem like there are other gods in kerch culture that represent other things. personally i think it would be really funny if they had other gods but just never mentioned them because they dont give a shit
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scriptedencryptid · 1 year ago
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Is there a Ghezen Jesus? Kerch Jesus?
did he give up his hands for our sins?
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The Kerch religion is pretty interesting… makes me wonder what a true “servant of Ghezen” (child of god?) might look like…
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alyoshka-karamazov · 10 months ago
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I need Inej Ghafa to listen to Would’ve, Could’ve, Should’ve in a rage room as she smashes shit. I think it’d be cathartic for her and it’s what she deserves
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servantleverslutdrop · 1 year ago
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Wylan blows up the church of barter SOC3
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teacup-tyrant · 2 years ago
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Ok I’m staying away from Shadow & Bone tumblr until I finish the season, so likeeee Friday or Saturday. I know they released the first however many minutes and I don’t want to see it now, I want to see it all at once.
So good luck to… all of us in getting what we want and more out of the series. See you soooooon!
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witherydithery · 2 years ago
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I am officially back to rotating the Kerch religion in my head
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farfromthebarrel · 6 months ago
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“But when she wanted to, Inej had a way of making you feel her silence. It tugged at your edges.”
Kaz has the audacity and stupidity to think Inej makes herself known to him. My brother in Ghezen, you are the only one who can feel her presence. She's seen to YOU. It's not her doing, IT'S YOURS.
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ambericesage · 7 months ago
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Wylan, propping his feet on the table: So, I hear you like bad boys
Jesper: not really
Wylan, immediately taking his feet off the table:
Oh thank Ghezen. That was so uncomfortable.
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19burstraat · 11 months ago
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ketterdam dashboard simulator 2 (electric boogaloo)
(first one here)
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Who submitted Kaz Brekker. don't take the piss he's literally wanted every other Wednesday
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Wait what did Brekker do
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Girl what DIDN'T he do
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Ghezen's Day Piss Up starts TONIGHT at the Kaelish Prince! Come down before four bells and get ten kruge off your first drinks purchase and an extra spin on Makker's Wheel!
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545.06.7.9
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HOW DID YOU GET PAST THE FUCKING VPN. FUCK YOU KAZ BREKKER. FUCK YOU SO MUCH. YOU DO THIS EVERY TIME. WE'RE NOT EVEN DOING ANYTHING TO YOU. WE'RE ALL JUST PEOPLE WITH JOBS. TRYING TO GET BY. MOST OF US NEVER EVEN SPOKE TO ROLLINS. THIS IS SO TWISTED. YOUR ACTUALLY WRONG IN THE HEAD. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU. I ACTUALLY CAN'T DEAL WITH THIS ANYMORE. I'M SICK.
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*you're
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#234: build mickey's dick smasher between east and west stave
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🍷dregsconfessions
So I've been a dregs member for a long time (I'm in my 30s now) and back when I was a new grunt I was especially trolleyed at the Crow Club, and I ended up spilling like half my pint on the head of one of Haskell's feral little runners, yk one of the little kids?? I just kind of mopped him with my sleeve and said sorry and figured that it was the end of it... however it has occurred to me lately that it actually might have been Kaz. Honestly I never could tell the difference between all the kids, and I didn't look properly at him, but now I've been waking up in a cold sweat several times a week thinking about it. Is it time for me to retire from the gang life
#submisson #admin comment: lately all of these have just been ppl embarrassing themselves in front of kaz
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There's definitely blogs on here that are undercover advertising for the Dregs btw. I accuse that one that thirstposts abt Dirtyhands
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:( no I'm a Razorgull actually
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WHAT???????
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I have eyes :/
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You won't for much longer if your boss finds out omfg
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you guys are cowards for not wanting to fuck Brekker. Out of my way ghezenboy I'm bout to get it
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My wallet is Gone
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Kaz Brekker isn't violent. Dirtyhands is. Get it right
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Gonna rob a bank tomorrow and when the stadwatch come I'm gonna tell them it was my alter ego Countess Boochie Flagrante
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sooooo sick of seeing people say that the council of tides shouldn't have complete control over kerch shipping. they stop the island from sinking??? every day?? have some respect
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idk about you guys but I'd be popping the BIGGEST bottles if kerch started sinking
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me and the girls when kerch starts sinking
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staff please let me reblog ads please please please please
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guys you have 24 hours to unfollow sanktvladimirs not only are they impersonating and mocking real etherealki and real saints (they are NOT a member of the second army) they're a dregs member, and I bet they're a fucking ka/nej too
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@ dregsofficial
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I DIDN'T MEAN IT LIKE THAT
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WHO SENT ME AN ANON ASK WITH MY ADDRESS
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guys I was looking at the wiki contributions who the fuck added a jesper fahey page to the dregs wiki... from inside the stadhall???
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you know what. don't even worry about it
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the wraith was only seventeen when she started hunting slavers???? she should have been at the club
#DON'T crawl out of the woodwork and say 'oh the crow club-' #the REAL CLUB. for FUN
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it's so nice to know no one agrees on this
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jccatstudios · 3 months ago
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You are doing Ghezen’s work and are the most amazing person!!
ALSO I LOVE YOUR DESIGNS FOR THE CROWS!!!
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Thank you very much!!! So glad to hear that you like them! :)
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Here’s comic Kaz as Ivanovski, the sculptor (yes!)
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scriptedencryptid · 1 year ago
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hand god, their god is a hand
industry, integrity, prosperity
Gatekeep, gaslight, girlboss in that order
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Ghezen! I went through so many different hands…. I settled on this one, like the Dekapple in the church of barter, the one holding all the Merch cherubs or something?
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Wylan: If I tell you my head hurts I dont want you to ask if Ive drunk enough water. I want you to fall to your knees and scream to the heavens that I don’t deserve this until Ghezen puts me out of my misery
Jesper: Noted
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