#fuck plato actually
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I wrote this in early 2020. It turned out that ability to be critical of information was helpful in the long term, and those ppl were already gonna have problems during the pandemic.
"This is going to sound so much more melodramatic than it actually is but I dont have a better way to phrase it. Language be like that:
In my late 30s I came to suspect that my political/philosophical worldview is functioning as a cognito hazard in my former students and as of now I am sitting back and monitoring them as best as I am able to see if they recover. It is merely because of a central epistemological nihilism combined with light statistical analysis but as of now I have more evidence that it is harmful than it is helpful. Consequently I've been circumspect in my discussion of it in recent time. They are already spreading it to their peers. So I am in search for something that will logically refute it and alleviate them of this or for evidence that they can"
(I wrote this to myself, but for anyone looking, epistemological nihilism refers to the fact that truth and knowledge are unverifiable)
#coronavid19#pandemic#intellectual legacy#academia#nihilism#skepticism#science#truth#knowledge#epistemology#epistemological#phyrronian skepticism#even the idea that there is no truth is subject to question#how would you identify truth if you saw it#david hume said something is experiencing something and that is the hardest proposition to refute#philosophy#ancient greece#fuck plato actually#and also Aristotle#nobody know what Socrates actually thought#maybe diogenes#pyrrus probably went to bactria and talked to buddhists#ataraxia#buddhism#satori#cognitohazard
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BEGGING people to stop treating friendship as mandatory just because you want to talk about amatonormativity. Quit throwing apls under the bus for not perfoeming friendship enough. Romance is not mandatory and neither is friendship or literally any other damn relationship. You shouldn't have to engage in relationships to recieve support and structuring society this way is not the progressive take you think it is.
#platonormativity#aplatonic#nonfriending apl#plato repulsed#apl#actually aplatonic#plato aros and alloplatonics shut the fuck up and learn to respect a disconnect from friendship challenge
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Plato-repulsed people don't need your pity just because a relatively common bond repulses us. We know it sounds difficult but its literally something we experience on a first hand basis. Why are you saying that it sounds hard to deal with instead of acknowledging that perhaps society should avoid making friendship(or any relationship type) the default??
#plato repulsion#vent#plato repulsed#actually plato repulsed#look I have no idea what that anon was on abt but I think that anon was being kind of aplphobic then tumblr glitched and didnt let me block#the anon. if that anon sees this maybe send something clarifying what you fucking mean and I guess if youre an aplphobe we'll just block#you lol#apl#friendship repulsed#friendship repulsion#aspec#aplatonic#apothiplatonic#platonormativity#Idk if that person was sympathising about it or treating plato repulsion as some sad pathetic thing but like. shrug
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my insanity has paid off (useless amount of knowledge of topics that make the average person exceedingly uncomfortable)
#rue rants#“Fun” fact! Ganymede; cup bearer of Zeus; was a fictional example of a catamite- hm google tried to correct that to ‘calamity’. Curious#Anyway a catamite was a teenage boy in Ancient Greece who served as an older man’s- Wikipedia phrases it as ‘intimate companion’#And the whole page is very… nice; about it? Idk. Anyway- the situation as a whole was referred to as ‘pederasty’ and was largely accepted#It’s a very interesting topic actually- the word ‘platonic’ comes from the philosopher Plato; who held the bold position of#‘You shouldn’t fuck your apprentices’. Revolutionary guy really#Anyway so pederasty is- you know what I’ll shut up now. I’ll yap more if anyone wants to hear later
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worst thing about being disabled is that now I am fully and completely aware of exactly how much I am worth to everyone I know. And it is not a lot!!
#like. it gets to me. A lot of the time it’s ohhh your life is priceless and. Well. Okay I did just see you put a price on it though.#like. It’s not always blatant but the laziness comments get to me. The stupid comments get to me. The money comments also get to me.#Either all life is precious or I am a drain on society. you cannot have both.#Why is my life worth less than twenty dollars. Better yet why are YOU gambling with MY life. wear your FUCKING masks.#like I’m usually fine bc I simply do not have the capacity for any more shit. I am existing in less dimensions than most ppl and Not Aware#And then when I am better I experience two entire years of Concentrated Cosmic Horror before I fold back down into being two dimensional#Cosmic horror? Eldritch horror? I DONT ACTUALLY KNOW. what I do know is that I straight up Do Not believe in the soul anymore bc of this!#like I’m horrified!! It is literally horrifying. If I still had all of me I could write some deeply fucked up metaphor but rn what I’ve got#Is like. okay so I’m supposed to be like. A galaxy on the inside folded into a person shape. Right#there’s stuff happening in there. three to five trains of thought at once etc. etc. and that is not what I have anymore. what I have now is#like. One planet and a white dwarf. not even a neutron star. And everything else went out so gradually that I didn’t really notice but#I woke up one morning and it’s not there and then I got into the habit of not looking up bc that’s a lot of work and I have to keep paintin#galaxies on the ash of this stupid little planet. And then I experience random bandaid treatment and Have The Knowledge again and.#I get to experience Plato’s allegory of the cave in REAL TIME and involuntarily!!#It really does suck that the only time I am able to comprehend the magnitude of my loss is when I’m not experiencing it!! bad times!!#I’m tired of being agreeable. Wear masks. Petition for air purifiers in public spaces. Or I start biting for real#if you notice I’m dealing with long covid a. BADLY. you’re right!! Gold fucking star! I challenge ANYONE to deal with The Bullshit actually#I’m not going to let myself be martyred for the fucking. Economy. Bull FUCKING shit.
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So mbmbam 674 huh
#plato's rave#what the actual fuck#tag what level you think you'd make it to#i think i'd make it to 2 lol#mbmbam
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(2017)
me: mom can i listen to music please
my mother: we have music at your ipod
the music at my ipod:
#text#How did i live like this fdor YEARSSSSSSS.#after they took my phone at 13 and got mad abt me listening 2 secular music#i would only listen to music on my phone using mp3 files i stored in either my NOTES APP or GOOGLE DRIVE . bc i knew they wouldnt#check there to see if i was listening to an Evil Secular Band like uhhh. checks notes. taylor swift#also to be clear yes i would sing the songs just so i could listen to them later . it sounded bad but hearing the words would remind me#of what the song actually sounded like . like fucking.. plato's cave or whatever. if you think about it.#HOW DID I LIVE LIKE THIS.#sometimes i would just SAY the words . HOW WAS I L
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if i have to translate plato ever again in my life i'm going to cry and then drop out of school
#a month in and i still don't understand shit#and every class period ehrman tries to make sure we understand#but what he doesn't understand no matter how many times we say it#is that the greek translating is fine#we can tell you what the words mean#but none of us understand what's being said#there's 3 of us in this class and all of us are struggling with the philosophy#what the actual fuck is socrates saying in this? i don't know. but i can tell you word for word what comes out of his mouth#i am not a philosophy person and ehrman doesn't understand why i don't understand#but like i can feel my brain melting#'Then each skill has been restored from under any one God both to work and to become knowledgeable? For if we were not to become good at st#we would be skilled at medicine.' what the fuck does that mean plato????? what does it meaaannnnn?
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things plato would love about US democracy:
not an actual democracy
controlled by the rich
things plato would hate about US democracy:
the rich are idiots
people are allowed to be loudly wrong all the time
it grants ppl a(n albeit ineffectual) voice and lets them (at least believe they) have the right to make decisions abt the state/their lives/etc
#incomplete list i could definitely say more#plato#i just think its so fucking hilarious how so many ppl hark back to ancient greece#as the good old days#home of democracy#and I'm like. have you ever. actually. looked at ancient greece?#no? ok go ahead#no no it's fine there's nothing to see there#don't even look it's fine it's totally cool#you just say whatever you want abt plato#i would say go ahead and live in blissful ignorance but there's nothing to ignore so idk what i'd be talking abt!#hahahahaha
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cursed by classes that are on an extremely interesting topic but with boring homework
#here i am writing an essay about sufism while not touching the two essays for my actual sufism class that i missed the deadline for#i'm almost at 3000 words. um#look ok the rumi reflection.... i have thoughts on rumi i can write about rumi#but that's minor compared to the like 4-page paper about why sufism is islamic or whatever. which is just. self-evident and therefore dumb#idk i get the sense that. prof wants us to say shit like 'sufism is islam' as an argument against 'sufism is influenced by plato' or smth#which y'know. would be fun to write about if any of our readings brought up plato#as anything other than a straw man#these secondary sources have. soooo much straw manning it's awful#like why must one read secondary sources. why can't we just stick with hallaj and rumi and ibn arabi and all those guys#and like. al-ghazali#why can't we read al-ghazali#no seriously why aren't we reading al-ghazali if the prof is so against philosophers :sob:#y'know what? i did so much research on the knights templar and bulgakov today. i should get to include them in my essay. as a treat#i should get to include al-ghazali in my essay. as a treat. as a fuck you to the prof for making the homework boring
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I can't value friendship because Im aplatonic, plato-repulsed, and nonfriending, and so I don't even want it to begin with. I'm atertiary, and nonrose relationships can never be a priority or even on equal footing with my relationships w my sexual and romantic-sexual partners (I'm alloaro and demiro) for me, because I don't even want those nonrose relationships to begin with.
Please include people like me in your idea of relationship anarchy because sometimes people really don't want a type of relationship and that applies to friendship as well, and other nonrose relationships like family, qprs, etc. You can't claim to support alternative ways of going about relationships and having boundaries and mutual respect in relationships, then turn around and act like everyone should have or want friends and be extremely affectionate with them or whatever.
#aplatonic#relationship anarchy#if you acknowledge romance and sex as optional but treat friendship as mandatory fuck you#apl#atertiary#platonormativity#this applies to amatopunk also btw#do you actually support ppl who dont have any type of love or do you just support aros and aces#aspec#plato repulsed#nonfriending aplatonic#apothiplatonic
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plato repulsed culture is trying not to be rude but wanting to get away so bad lol.
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#yeah...#plato repulsed#aplatonic#apl#aspec#plato repulsion#actually plato repulsed#friendship repulsed#aplspec#friendship repulsion#queer#when someones trying to talk to you and you want to get away from the conversation but they wont stop ugh...#part of why I hate friendship tbh... at least w my partners we let each other acknowledge when we dont want to continue a conversation#without it being a big deal !! my ex friends hardly ever did that#and sure friendships can involve that but. even if one did Im not fucking getting into it bc Im plato repulsed#also when someone is trying to socialise w you and youre just sick of it and want it to end but if the other person knew theyd just see you#as evil or something for 'denying them social interaction' when they can just go talk to someone else..
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literally nothing ab health insurance makes any sense allah yl3an om el balad deh
#why the fuck r u making me apply for health insurance I am only 22 and still live w my parents just keep me on my dads?????#all bc I graduated??? like ur so dumb truly I still work part time at a fucking Platos closet I do NOT have the funds to pay for this#I hate this stupid dumb country fr like give me ACTUAL free healthcare u dumb cunts....I hate Canada fr
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OH OH OH I WILL SIGN MY MURAL WITH MY NAME AND USE MY 'A' TO DRAW THE ANARCHIST SYMBOL!!!! LET'S FUCKING GOOOO!!!
#it's like a big ass poster I'm gonna draw in my old wardrobe door because it's a big surface that I can move around#and so yeah#that#it's social critique cause that's what we're doing in art class rn#AND#I'm going for the fake idea of freedom which makes us think we have choices we makes us thinks we are free#when in reality is like so fucking fake#and lots of us are condemned by the system#(critizing the system too don't worry)#I'm stressed? kinda because I'm on exams week while I'm working on this project#but it'll be alright#don't worry#also#critizing Plato's ass takes on the tripartite theory <3 (I'm using his elements to prove my critique thankyou)#i was actually this 🤏 close to draw cardboard penises and put them in front of my mural#I might do it#like#draw em bigger than the brain and the heart of the politician and the police officer#and just#stick their penises down#but idk#I'll see if it works
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walking into my athenian comedy theare and sitting down to warch aristiophanic snl in which socrates and this new fangled 'philosophy' is slated with airborne antics, because the other snl skit i watched of his had classic-trump arguing with a sauasage seller (its a dick joke) until pseudo trump just starts fucking crying and that's damn good theatre
#meme post#shit post#athenian#greece#Classical athens#classics#Ancient greece#snl#Trump#socrates#philosophy#Aristhophanes#Posting like an ancient greek#dick jokes#Trump 2500 years ago fucking mental#More or less#Cleon (old trump) was a fucking bastard#brand new sentence#Original sentence#Aristophanes hated socrates like so much dude#Like plato (his student) even thought Socrates was like fuck aristophanes in his final moments#They had BEEF dude#Like Im so surprised Aristophanes didn't ostracise him bro#He could have#Timeline wise#And Cleon sucked#Cleon actually sued aristophanes for writing about him#But aristophanes kept doing it#Fucking legend#Except he couldn't tell the difference between sophists (moneygrabbers) and philosophers (toddlers
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When I started watching a LOT of horror let’s plays, I started noticing just how often wheelchairs are used as shorthand for horror in a way that is at best lazy and vapid and at worst just. Wildly ableist and misapprehensive of what wheelchairs actually mean to the people who use them. Like when I got around to rewatching Silent Hill 4 and it hit the corridor fulla chairs, I just burst out laughing bc it was the laziest, stupidest thing I’d ever seen like it was almost a transcendent moment of parody except. yknow. not.
if u consider yourself a horror fan you like NEED to be aware and educated on the ableism thats been put at the heart of so much horror. like... is that character actually scary or do they just have a limp/scars/disfigurement that real normal people have irl and have to see depicted as horrifying and dehumanizing? if you think any of those things or things like it are scary in ANY context you need to step away from the horror genre and familiarize yourself with the fact that people can and do look like that and they do not deserve to be an object of fear
#like I can’t say which is worse#being like OH NO what if you HAD A DISABILITY and LOST SOME BODILY AUTONOMY a FATE WORSE THAN DEATH#what if you had A COOL RIDE that let you DO THINGS YOU NEED TO DO wouldn’t that be JUST THE WORST#or having a plato’s cave ass reflection of a reflection of ‘wheelchairs. that’s a horror thing right??’#and yeah as my body’s been. getting worse#every time I lurch and stumble and limp my way around#I just think how I’m moving like a lazily-conceived zombie etc#and it makes me feel :////#I really like some of the ways tma engaged with disability and horror#like the bit in The Mortal Garden shook me to my goddamn core#bc it felt like it situated the disabled person as subject not object#and spoke to the actual horror of having a difficult body#in a way that wasn’t? idk waving it in your face like a horrible punishment#it was like ‘this is a way bodies can be and it fucking sucks sometimes’#I love horror but it’s got some things wrong with it and not in the fun way
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