#fandom wars are stupid

[angee1011]

I can’t believe I have to make this post, but I saw another post where someone sent an ask to someone else and brought up that they had seen a post about how someone wanted Colin to be depressed that Pen hates him and that they couldn’t believe it, went on to talk about the toxicity of this fandom. And then poster talks about how we villainize men.

Are you talking about my post? Where I excitedly say I can’t wait to see Colin depressed over Pen’s ire toward him?

Normally I wouldn’t care, but lately people have had a tendency to just take things at face value and don’t bother to look past them.

First and foremost, I think it was clear in my excitement that I’m a Polin fan. That post was in no way, shape or form me villainizing Colin or rejoicing in his pain because I’m an anti. (Which I’m going to assume that’s what you assumed. I would have tagged it appropriately anyway, I’ve been in fandom a long, long time. Besides, the whole anti attitude of shitting on a pairing because they don’t like either/or/both characters is really stupid to me. Let people ship whoever they want and who cares about how people celebrate that).

I was excited about the angst. Colin has to go through some character growth this season. That was my point. I’m excited to see his character growth. I’m excited to see how he internalizes everything that’s going to happen.

Moreover, my post was obviously hyperbolic. It wasn’t meant to be taken seriously. Anyone with common sense knows that obviously Penelope doesn’t hate Colin. She’s in love with him and is coming to the realization that he isn’t perfect like she’s always thought. Just as he’s going to come to the realization that he can’t continue to expect her puff up his ego while he galavants. That’s what I’m excited about. Polin’s book is all about removing masks, literally and figuratively. It’s about finally seeing under the surface of what’s always been in front you.

Please don’t take my post at face value.

[terrietont]

Not gonna lie, dreamworks fans are making me not enjoy dreamworks movies at the moment, especially with the whole “New Dreamworks movie good, New Disney movie bad” thing and anyone who thinks different is laughed at and called “simp” or “cringe”

Can we just enjoy movies from both studios without this weird fandom war? God it makes me sad to see some of my favourite movies punted against some of my other favourite movies.

It’s the whole “Fnaf v Undertale” thing that actually helped contribute to my eventual parting of the Undertale fandom for about four years. I still feel iffy going back after some of the toxic treatment back then.

Same with the whole indie game wars thing or “Marvel vs DC” thing… or “Star wars vs Star Trek” oh good god when are we gonna stop comparing things and just enjoy things without the need to put one over the other?

I even remember Minecraft vs Terraria and then Minecraft vs Roblox.

YouTuber vs YouTuber- it never ends!

I feel like comparison wars in pop culture isn’t talked enough about how truly toxic and pointless it is.

[131-vr]

A conversation I had with my sister.

Somebody kill me.

[lieutenant-teach]

Why exactly was the Jedi Order ‘deeply flawed’? Specify, please. What were its real flaws? Give me examples that haven’t debunked million times before by other people. Not ‘too close to the Republic/Senate’ (because it worked for a thousand of years, it’s not Jedi’s fault that the Senate has become greedy). Not ‘children-stealers’ (they’re not). Not ‘slave-owners of the clone army’ (they’re not, clones belonged to the Senate). Not ‘they forbid attachments’ (‘attachment’ doesn’t mean ‘love’ in SW, it means ‘unhealthy possessiveness’ ). Not ‘they don’t stop slavery/other evil in the galaxy’ (1. They’re too few for that anyway. 2. Isn’t it the Senate’s job? Why no one blames the Senate with the same fervor?). Not ‘they didn’t help Anakin with his mental health’ (they did, but you cannot help a person who doesn’t want to apply your help).

[xwonderlandresidentx]

I feel like I've been seeing a lot more posts about how both the Kat//ng and Zutara fandoms should stop fighting and tolerate each other more, and while I understand, and to an extent, agree with the sentiment, it bothers me a little because these posts tend to make it out like both fandoms are equally as toxic, when in my experience, that simply isn't true.

I am a multishipper, and even though I mostly just participate in the fandoms for my absolute favorites, I still enjoy lots of different ships, including ships that "contradict" each other.

In AtLA, even though Zutara is my favorite now, I also used to ship Kat//ng. Kat//ng used to be my favorite, and only ship for the series that I actively engaged with. I saw the appeal of Zutara (and others), but for a long time my opinion on it was "it's not canon, so why bother?" and I mostly just ignored it.

But one of the biggest reason I stopped enjoying interacting with the KA side of the fandom was because I saw a vastly disproportionate amount of other KA shippers going out of their way to harass Zutara shippers. And I don't mean simply talking badly about the ship itself, or the characters involved, but personal attacks against the real life people who ship Zutara.

Have I seen Zutara shippers harass Kat//ngers? Yes, of course. But not nearly as much as the other way around. Literally not even half as much. And not just here on Tumblr, but Twitter, Pinterest, Instagram, Deviantart. All across the internet, I saw KA shippers constantly badmouthing Zutara and Zutara shippers, even in the comments of Kat//ng art and fics, completely unprompted.

It bummed me out, and while it isn't the reason I stopped liking the ship itself, it did make me feel uncomfortable interacting with it's fandom. Kat//ng shippers are, ironically, a big part of the reason I started actively shipping Zutara. Because after seeing the way they went on about it and it's fandom, I thought "Surely, Zutara and the people who like it can't be that bad." So I took a deeper look at the ship and it's fandom, and.... I was right. They weren't as bad as other Kat//ngers had told me they were. Not even close.

[i-m-art-ix]

Sometimes I just think about how Anakin is taller than Obi-wan and when they argue Anakin just puts something on the top shelf (like Obi-wan's favorite tea) and walks away.

A moment later Obi-Wan's scream calling his stupid padawan and the sounds of destruction typical of these two can be heard throughout the temple.

A normal day in the jedi temple :)

[one-eternal-sigh]

james is spoiled rotten okay

he’s had the world placed at his feet by parents who basically catered to most of his whims as a child and he will persist until he gets what he wants, and does not back down from a fight

even when he is losing desperately, until his glasses are cracked and his nose bleeding and he’s thoroughly beaten and all—though the experience kind of humbles him temporarily—which he really needs sometimes, so he isn’t completely insufferable, according to some people anyway (*cough cough* lily)

(he also cannot stop being a smart arse for the life of him, which makes him extremely punchable under already dire circumstances)

[godsfavoritelitlesilly]

When the interrogation doesn't work:

[crazylittlejester]

its days like this when i become devastated I’m a writer and not an artist or animator or voice actor because I just got the funniest fucking mental image of Wars like drunk at a bar or something and just absolutely murdering karaoke (you decide if he’s ✨killin’ it✨ /pos or Killing It as in Everyone’s Ears) and he just puts so much fucking passion into screaming Hopelessly Devoted to You with literal tears in his eyes, both hands on a mic, falling to his knees or some shit and eventually Twi has to stop him like “alright buddy we’re goin’ home now”

like if i had the fucking skills i would hand deliver it to y’all but i cant animate so i guess i should go spend some time on my whumptober fics

[fdelopera]

The Hollywood RICH BITCH goyishe celebs putting on the Bloody Handprint pins last night that celebrate the lynching of two Jewish men ... these Rich Bitches were like:

"Oh, we don't want to know where this symbol comes from. We didn't ask too many questions. We were just following orders."

[cassieroo]

As someone who heavily relates to Quinni and is a little bit in love with Harper and her fucked-up bad-bitch mystique, I think they should have an incredibly intense and fucked up gay relationship that leaves them both irreversibly wrecked as people. They could make each other worse and better in equal measure and I want it sooo bad

[pnfc]

i haint watched the dang chibisode and idk if ill actually watch it with sound on sdfjk but i have a hurt feeling about them casually imbuing perry with speech for a one off gag because the idea that he needs to talk to communicate is fake. we had 4 seasons of wacky magic hijinks cartoon where perry never needed verbal speech to communicate. they couldve done this gag at any point in the show but they didn't, and the fact that they didn't felt significant. perry's muteness is such a core part of his character, to me, to the way i conceive of him/write him. i don't wanna overreact to a goofy little side cartoon (even tho i'm doing it anyway) but it's still the characters, and it still upsets me! ok that's it i've said my piece

[131-vr]

I was practicing expressions and colors, what better way than to practice with these, I have another 3 wips, two from tbb and one from the Domino twins, the last one is long.

[lieutenant-teach]

If you think the Jedi are wrong, you don’t understand Star Wars.

[throwawayasoiafaccount]

i still cannot believe that people consider having lovers outside of a political marriage as cheating

a lot can be discussed about how raging misogyny and the patriarchy in westeros has led to unequal standards for women to uphold and suffer from

as highborn women are not allowed the same sexual freedom that highborn men get to experience, and even if these women do have relationships outside of their marriages, they are usually scorned and shunned by society for daring to practice sexual autonomy

it’s unfair, i am very aware of this fact

(that’s why i’ll never understand team green stans)

but george has never ever condemned his characters for finding and experiencing love outside of doing their duty.

never.

we’re not unfeeling machines that lack emotions. we’re humans who are, more often than not, led by our hearts. and grrm does a phenomenal job when creating characters, as they truly feel human.

so yeah, it’s a bit disappointing that people dumb down what is clearly a very complex situation to “cheating” (btw george himself calls rhaegar and elias relationship complex and he’s never implied that they loved each other in a romantic sense).

to reiterate, i am well aware that highborn women and men are held to different standards, however, if you have a problem with characters working through, around, and sometimes failing to overcome the social structures that cause their suffering, then you must have a major issue with george’s exploration of the human heart in conflict with itself.

george’s characters aren’t robots and that’s what makes them interesting. they do things for very human reasons. they’re biased. they’re traumatized. they’re conflicted. but they’re still reaching for a better tomorrow and they’re still trying to find happiness.

so i’ll never consider rhaegar and lyannas relationship as cheating, or something unsightly that should be scorned. for they simply dared to find and grasp love in a society that would rather shackle them to unhappy marriages, which is very commendable.

oh… and do you know what george does criticize?

political marriages lol

he makes it clear that selling women off as broodmares and forcing men into marriages they don’t want is a recipe for disaster.

of course the eventual fallouts of these relationships is super interesting to read about, but you should never ever support the systems in place and the societies that benefit from pushing people/characters into these incredibly unhealthy relationships

so while i find it interesting to read about characters navigating these relationships, i’ll always be the first person to condemn these societies for forcing this fate onto them. i’ll also always be the first person to root for characters who do their best to find happiness outside of their political/arranged marriage

sorry that i don’t condemn a character for finding love outside of a loveless marriage

instead of getting angry at rhaegar and lyanna and being very nonsensical in the main tags about it, how about you turn that anger onto the patriarchy, which is rooted in every single institution and family in westeros, the patriarchy that refuses to allow women to have the same amount of sexual autonomy as men?

(this is why i despise team green :))

[galactic-rhea]

[ID: Screenshot of a chat that says "just leave my queen alone, she's already suffered enough. She wanted a life with her malewife murder monk pilot mechanic racer and you should respect her for that!]

It's Padmé defending's hours for me

I have been seeing more negative (with very weird connotations, tbh) posts about Padmé on my dash lately, and while I'm a firm believer of the "scroll past it" rule, it really irks me a lot because MOST of these takes sound a bit mysoginistic to me and also (to me) shows a lack of trying to understand her as a character, not in a "you don't get her" way, but in a "you don't even try to understand the character and her context in the damn story just because you wanna sound holy than thou" way.

I'm all for accepting takes about Padmé's flaws or having a slightly more privileged/closed view (and that makes sense, she's aristocracy) but these people are SO WEIRD whenever they wanna talk about her 🤨

I'll forever mad that George eliminated SO MANY scenes with Padmé in the movies, but I feel like even if we had those scenes, people's complaints would be exactly the same.

But also i think half of the time people fail at understanding Padmé is because they're also failing to understand Anakin's as a character, idk