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astro-studying · 3 months ago
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- Wednesday, Aug 28, 2024 -
Already forgot to post days 1 and 2 of the new semester, but here's to day 3!
I'm really looking forward to 3/4 of my classes. The odd one out is math methods of physics. Not because I'm not interested--I'm very interested in learning it. I'm just not so confident that my professor is going to be a good match... but of course, he's the only professor teaching it this semester. I'll make it work somehow! The other three are Modern Physics, which seems like so much fun, Intermediate Experimental Physics, which ALSO seems like it'll be super fun, and Ordinary Differential Equations (ODEs), which I'm taking with my Calc 3 professor that I loved!!
-Current assignments-
Modern: N/A
Experimental: Edit a LaTeX template
Math Methods: Read ch 1 of the textbook (self-assigned)
ODEs: N/A
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pinkmoon-fox · 8 months ago
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i want to get some new pretty notebooks for the new semester but i have so many empty ones here already :(( but theyre not pretty enough, or too pretty to just fill them with studynotes ughhhh
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whats-in-a-sentence · 2 months ago
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In 1894, the renowned experimental physicist Albert Michelson remarked that "most of the grand underlying principles have been firmly established" and he quoted an "eminent scientist" – most believe it was the British physicist Lord Kelvin – as saying that all that remained were details of determining some numbers to a greater number of decimal places.¹
1. Lord Kelvin was quoted by the physicist Albert Michelson during his 1894 address at the dedication of the University of Chicago's Ryerson Laboratory (see D. Kleppner, Physics Today, November 1998).
"The Fabric of the Cosmos" - Brian Greene
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itsgerges · 10 months ago
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ultrimio · 6 months ago
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Conceptual Design for a Neutrino Power Transmission System
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Overview
Neutrinos could potentially be used to send electricity over long distances without the need for high-voltage direct current (HVDC) lines. Neutrinos have the unique property of being able to pass through matter without interacting with it, which makes them ideal for transmitting energy over long distances without significant energy loss. This property allows neutrinos to be used as a medium for energy transmission, potentially replacing HVDC lines in certain applications.
So the goal is to create a neutrino-based power transmission system capable of sending and receiving a beam of neutrinos that carry a few MW of power across a short distance. This setup will include a neutrino beam generator (transmitter), a travel medium, and a neutrino detector (receiver) that can convert the neutrinos' kinetic energy into electrical power.
1. Neutrino Beam Generator (Transmitter)
Particle Accelerator: At the heart of the neutrino beam generator will be a particle accelerator. This accelerator will increase the energy of protons before colliding them with a target to produce pions and kaons, which then decay into neutrinos. A compact linear accelerator or a small synchrotron could be used for this purpose.
Target Material: The protons accelerated by the particle accelerator will strike a dense material target (like tungsten or graphite) to create a shower of pions and kaons.
Decay Tunnel: After production, these particles will travel through a decay tunnel where they decay into neutrinos. This tunnel needs to be under vacuum or filled with inert gas to minimize interactions before decay.
Focusing Horns: Magnetic horns will be used to focus the charged pions and kaons before they decay, enhancing the neutrino beam's intensity and directionality.
Energy and Beam Intensity: To achieve a few MW of power, the system will need to operate at several gigaelectronvolts (GeV) with a proton beam current of a few tens of milliamperes.
2. Travel Medium
Direct Line of Sight: Neutrinos can travel through the Earth with negligible absorption or scattering, but for initial tests, a direct line of sight through air or vacuum could be used to simplify detection.
Distance: The initial setup could span a distance from a few hundred meters to a few kilometers, allowing for measurable neutrino interactions without requiring excessively large infrastructure.
3. Neutrino Detector (Receiver)
Detector Medium: A large volume of water or liquid scintillator will be used as the detecting medium. Neutrinos interacting with the medium produce a charged particle that can then be detected via Cherenkov radiation or scintillation light.
Photodetectors: Photomultiplier tubes (PMTs) or Silicon Photomultipliers (SiPMs) will be arranged around the detector medium to capture the light signals generated by neutrino interactions.
Energy Conversion: The kinetic energy of particles produced in neutrino interactions will be converted into heat. This heat can then be used in a traditional heat-to-electricity conversion system (like a steam turbine or thermoelectric generators).
Shielding and Background Reduction: To improve the signal-to-noise ratio, the detector will be shielded with lead or water to reduce background radiation. A veto system may also be employed to distinguish neutrino events from other particle interactions.
4. Control and Data Acquisition
Synchronization: Precise timing and synchronization between the accelerator and the detector will be crucial to identify and correlate neutrino events.
Data Acquisition System: A high-speed data acquisition system will collect data from the photodetectors, processing and recording the timing and energy of detected events.
Hypothetical Power Calculation
To estimate the power that could be transmitted:
Neutrino Flux: Let the number of neutrinos per second be ( N_\nu ), and each neutrino carries an average energy ( E_\nu ).
Neutrino Interaction Rate: Only a tiny fraction (( \sigma )) of neutrinos will interact with the detector material. For a detector with ( N_d ) target nuclei, the interaction rate ( R ) is ( R = N_\nu \sigma N_d ).
Power Conversion: If each interaction deposits energy ( E_d ) into the detector, the power ( P ) is ( P = R \times E_d ).
For a beam of ( 10^{15} ) neutrinos per second (a feasible rate for a small accelerator) each with ( E_\nu = 1 ) GeV, and assuming an interaction cross-section ( \sigma \approx 10^{-38} ) cm(^2), a detector with ( N_d = 10^{30} ) (corresponding to about 10 kilotons of water), and ( E_d = E_\nu ) (for simplicity in this hypothetical scenario), the power is:
[ P = 10
^{15} \times 10^{-38} \times 10^{30} \times 1 \text{ GeV} ]
[ P = 10^{7} \times 1 \text{ GeV} ]
Converting GeV to joules (1 GeV ≈ (1.6 \times 10^{-10}) J):
[ P = 10^{7} \times 1.6 \times 10^{-10} \text{ J/s} ]
[ P = 1.6 \text{ MW} ]
Thus, under these very optimistic and idealized conditions, the setup could theoretically transmit about 1.6 MW of power. However, this is an idealized maximum, and actual performance would likely be significantly lower due to various inefficiencies and losses.
Detailed Steps to Implement the Conceptual Design
Step 1: Building the Neutrino Beam Generator
Accelerator Design:
Choose a compact linear accelerator or a small synchrotron capable of accelerating protons to the required energy (several GeV).
Design the beamline with the necessary magnetic optics to focus and direct the proton beam.
Target Station:
Construct a target station with a high-density tungsten or graphite target to maximize pion and kaon production.
Implement a cooling system to manage the heat generated by the high-intensity proton beam.
Decay Tunnel:
Design and construct a decay tunnel, optimizing its length to maximize the decay of pions and kaons into neutrinos.
Include magnetic focusing horns to shape and direct the emerging neutrino beam.
Safety and Controls:
Develop a control system to synchronize the operation of the accelerator and monitor the beam's properties.
Implement safety systems to manage radiation and operational risks.
Step 2: Setting Up the Neutrino Detector
Detector Medium:
Select a large volume of water or liquid scintillator. For a few MW of transmitted power, consider a detector size of around 10 kilotons, similar to large neutrino detectors in current experiments.
Place the detector underground or in a well-shielded facility to reduce cosmic ray backgrounds.
Photodetectors:
Install thousands of photomultiplier tubes (PMTs) or Silicon Photomultipliers (SiPMs) around the detector to capture light from neutrino interactions.
Optimize the arrangement of these sensors to maximize coverage and detection efficiency.
Energy Conversion System:
Design a system to convert the kinetic energy from particle reactions into heat.
Couple this heat to a heat exchanger and use it to drive a turbine or other electricity-generating device.
Data Acquisition and Processing:
Implement a high-speed data acquisition system to record signals from the photodetectors.
Develop software to analyze the timing and energy of events, distinguishing neutrino interactions from background noise.
Step 3: Integration and Testing
Integration:
Carefully align the neutrino beam generator with the detector over the chosen distance.
Test the proton beam operation, target interaction, and neutrino production phases individually before full operation.
Calibration:
Use calibration sources and possibly a low-intensity neutrino source to calibrate the detector.
Adjust the photodetector and data acquisition settings to optimize signal detection and reduce noise.
Full System Test:
Begin with low-intensity beams to ensure the system's stability and operational safety.
Gradually increase the beam intensity, monitoring the detector's response and the power output.
Operational Refinement:
Refine the beam focusing and detector sensitivity based on initial tests.
Implement iterative improvements to increase the system's efficiency and power output.
Challenges and Feasibility
While the theoretical framework suggests that a few MW of power could be transmitted via neutrinos, several significant challenges would need to be addressed to make such a system feasible:
Interaction Rates: The extremely low interaction rate of neutrinos means that even with a high-intensity beam and a large detector, only a tiny fraction of the neutrinos will be detected and contribute to power generation.
Technological Limits: The current state of particle accelerator and neutrino detection technology would make it difficult to achieve the necessary beam intensity and detection efficiency required for MW-level power transmission.
Cost and Infrastructure: The cost of building and operating such a system would be enormous, likely many orders of magnitude greater than existing power transmission systems.
Efficiency: Converting the kinetic energy of particles produced in neutrino interactions to electrical energy with high efficiency is a significant technical challenge.
Scalability: Scaling this setup to practical applications would require even more significant advancements in technology and reductions
in cost.
Detailed Analysis of Efficiency and Cost
Even in an ideal scenario where technological barriers are overcome, the efficiency of converting neutrino interactions into usable power is a critical factor. Here’s a deeper look into the efficiency and cost aspects:
Efficiency Analysis
Neutrino Detection Efficiency: Current neutrino detectors have very low efficiency due to the small cross-section of neutrino interactions. To improve this, advanced materials or innovative detection techniques would be required. For instance, using superfluid helium or advanced photodetectors could potentially increase interaction rates and energy conversion efficiency.
Energy Conversion Efficiency: The process of converting the kinetic energy from particle reactions into usable electrical energy currently has many stages of loss. Thermal systems, like steam turbines, typically have efficiencies of 30-40%. To enhance this, direct energy conversion methods, such as thermoelectric generators or direct kinetic-to-electric conversion, need development but are still far from achieving high efficiency at the scale required.
Overall System Efficiency: Combining the neutrino interaction efficiency and the energy conversion efficiency, the overall system efficiency could be extremely low. For neutrino power transmission to be comparable to current technologies, these efficiencies need to be boosted by several orders of magnitude.
Cost Considerations
Capital Costs: The initial costs include building the particle accelerator, target station, decay tunnel, focusing system, and the neutrino detector. Each of these components is expensive, with costs potentially running into billions of dollars for a setup that could aim to transmit a few MW of power.
Operational Costs: The operational costs include the energy to run the accelerator and the maintenance of the entire system. Given the high-energy particles involved and the precision technology required, these costs would be significantly higher than those for traditional power transmission methods.
Cost-Effectiveness: To determine the cost-effectiveness, compare the total cost per unit of power transmitted with that of HVDC systems. Currently, HVDC transmission costs are about $1-2 million per mile for the infrastructure, plus additional costs for power losses over distance. In contrast, a neutrino-based system would have negligible losses over distance, but the infrastructure costs would dwarf any current system.
Potential Improvements and Research Directions
To move from a theoretical concept to a more practical proposition, several areas of research and development could be pursued:
Advanced Materials: Research into new materials with higher sensitivity to neutrino interactions could improve detection rates. Nanomaterials or quantum dots might offer new pathways to detect and harness the energy from neutrino interactions more efficiently.
Accelerator Technology: Developing more compact and efficient accelerators would reduce the initial and operational costs of generating high-intensity neutrino beams. Using new acceleration techniques, such as plasma wakefield acceleration, could significantly decrease the size and cost of accelerators.
Detector Technology: Improvements in photodetector efficiency and the development of new scintillating materials could enhance the signal-to-noise ratio in neutrino detectors. High-temperature superconductors could also be used to improve the efficiency of magnetic horns and focusing devices.
Energy Conversion Methods: Exploring direct conversion methods, where the kinetic energy of particles from neutrino interactions is directly converted into electricity, could bypass the inefficiencies of thermal conversion systems. Research into piezoelectric materials or other direct conversion technologies could be key.
Conceptual Experiment to Demonstrate Viability
To demonstrate the viability of neutrino power transmission, even at a very small scale, a conceptual experiment could be set up as follows:
Experimental Setup
Small-Scale Accelerator: Use a small-scale proton accelerator to generate a neutrino beam. For experimental purposes, this could be a linear accelerator used in many research labs, capable of accelerating protons to a few hundred MeV.
Miniature Target and Decay Tunnel: Design a compact target and a short decay tunnel to produce and focus neutrinos. This setup will test the beam production and initial focusing systems.
Small Detector: Construct a small-scale neutrino detector, possibly using a few tons of liquid scintillator or water, equipped with sensitive photodetectors. This detector will test the feasibility of detecting focused neutrino beams at short distances.
Measurement and Analysis: Measure the rate of neutrino interactions and the energy deposited in the detector. Compare this to the expected values based on the beam properties and detector design.
Steps to Conduct the Experiment
Calibrate the Accelerator and Beamline: Ensure the proton beam is correctly tuned and the target is accurately positioned to maximize pion and kaon production.
Operate the Decay Tunnel and Focusing System: Run tests to optimize the magnetic focusing horns and maximize the neutrino beam coherence.
Run the Detector: Collect data from the neutrino interactions, focusing on capturing the rare events and distinguishing them from background noise.
Data Analysis: Analyze the collected data to determine the neutrino flux and interaction rate, and compare these to
theoretical predictions to validate the setup.
Optimization: Based on initial results, adjust the beam energy, focusing systems, and detector configurations to improve interaction rates and signal clarity.
Example Calculation for a Proof-of-Concept Experiment
To put the above experimental setup into a more quantitative framework, here's a simplified example calculation:
Assumptions and Parameters
Proton Beam Energy: 500 MeV (which is within the capability of many smaller particle accelerators).
Number of Protons per Second ((N_p)): (1 \times 10^{13}) protons/second (a relatively low intensity to ensure safe operations for a proof-of-concept).
Target Efficiency: Assume 20% of the protons produce pions or kaons that decay into neutrinos.
Neutrino Energy ((E_\nu)): Approximately 30% of the pion or kaon energy, so around 150 MeV per neutrino.
Distance to Detector ((D)): 100 meters (to stay within a compact experimental facility).
Detector Mass: 10 tons of water (equivalent to (10^4) kg, or about (6 \times 10^{31}) protons assuming 2 protons per water molecule).
Neutrino Interaction Cross-Section ((\sigma)): Approximately (10^{-38} , \text{m}^2) (typical for neutrinos at this energy).
Neutrino Detection Efficiency: Assume 50% due to detector design and quantum efficiency of photodetectors.
Neutrino Production
Pions/Kaons Produced: [ N_{\text{pions/kaons}} = N_p \times 0.2 = 2 \times 10^{12} \text{ per second} ]
Neutrinos Produced: [ N_\nu = N_{\text{pions/kaons}} = 2 \times 10^{12} \text{ neutrinos per second} ]
Neutrino Flux at the Detector
Given the neutrinos spread out over a sphere: [ \text{Flux} = \frac{N_\nu}{4 \pi D^2} = \frac{2 \times 10^{12}}{4 \pi (100)^2} , \text{neutrinos/m}^2/\text{s} ] [ \text{Flux} \approx 1.6 \times 10^7 , \text{neutrinos/m}^2/\text{s} ]
Expected Interaction Rate in the Detector
Number of Target Nuclei ((N_t)) in the detector: [ N_t = 6 \times 10^{31} ]
Interactions per Second: [ R = \text{Flux} \times N_t \times \sigma \times \text{Efficiency} ] [ R = 1.6 \times 10^7 \times 6 \times 10^{31} \times 10^{-38} \times 0.5 ] [ R \approx 48 , \text{interactions/second} ]
Energy Deposited
Energy per Interaction: Assuming each neutrino interaction deposits roughly its full energy (150 MeV, or (150 \times 1.6 \times 10^{-13}) J): [ E_d = 150 \times 1.6 \times 10^{-13} , \text{J} = 2.4 \times 10^{-11} , \text{J} ]
Total Power: [ P = R \times E_d ] [ P = 48 \times 2.4 \times 10^{-11} , \text{J/s} ] [ P \approx 1.15 \times 10^{-9} , \text{W} ]
So, the power deposited in the detector from neutrino interactions would be about (1.15 \times 10^{-9}) watts.
Challenges and Improvements for Scaling Up
While the proof-of-concept might demonstrate the fundamental principles, scaling this up to transmit even a single watt of power, let alone megawatts, highlights the significant challenges:
Increased Beam Intensity: To increase the power output, the intensity of the proton beam and the efficiency of pion/kaon production must be dramatically increased. For high power levels, this would require a much higher energy and intensity accelerator, larger and more efficient targets, and more sophisticated focusing systems.
Larger Detector: The detector would need to be massively scaled
up in size. To detect enough neutrinos to convert to a practical amount of power, we're talking about scaling from a 10-ton detector to potentially tens of thousands of tons or more, similar to the scale of detectors used in major neutrino experiments like Super-Kamiokande in Japan.
Improved Detection and Conversion Efficiency: To realistically convert the interactions into usable power, the efficiency of both the detection and the subsequent energy conversion process needs to be near-perfect, which is far beyond current capabilities.
Steps to Scale Up the Experiment
To transition from the initial proof-of-concept to a more substantial demonstration and eventually to a practical application, several steps and advancements are necessary:
Enhanced Accelerator Performance:
Upgrade to Higher Energies: Move from a 500 MeV system to several GeV or even higher, as higher energy neutrinos can penetrate further and have a higher probability of interaction.
Increase Beam Current: Amplify the proton beam current to increase the number of neutrinos generated, aiming for a beam power in the range of hundreds of megawatts to gigawatts.
Optimized Target and Decay Tunnel:
Target Material and Design: Use advanced materials that can withstand the intense bombardment of protons and optimize the geometry for maximum pion and kaon production.
Magnetic Focusing: Refine the magnetic horns and other focusing devices to maximize the collimation and directionality of the produced neutrinos, minimizing spread and loss.
Massive Scale Detector:
Detector Volume: Scale the detector up to the kiloton or even megaton range, using water, liquid scintillator, or other materials that provide a large number of target nuclei.
Advanced Photodetectors: Deploy tens of thousands of high-efficiency photodetectors to capture as much of the light from interactions as possible.
High-Efficiency Energy Conversion:
Direct Conversion Technologies: Research and develop technologies that can convert the kinetic energy from particle reactions directly into electrical energy with minimal loss.
Thermodynamic Cycles: If using heat conversion, optimize the thermodynamic cycle (such as using supercritical CO2 turbines) to maximize the efficiency of converting heat into electricity.
Integration and Synchronization:
Data Acquisition and Processing: Handle the vast amounts of data from the detector with real-time processing to identify and quantify neutrino events.
Synchronization: Ensure precise timing between the neutrino production at the accelerator and the detection events to accurately attribute interactions to the beam.
Realistic Projections and Innovations Required
Considering the stark difference between the power levels in the initial experiment and the target power levels, let's outline the innovations and breakthroughs needed:
Neutrino Production and Beam Focus: To transmit appreciable power via neutrinos, the beam must be incredibly intense and well-focused. Innovations might include using plasma wakefield acceleration for more compact accelerators or novel superconducting materials for more efficient and powerful magnetic focusing.
Cross-Section Enhancement: While we can't change the fundamental cross-section of neutrino interactions, we can increase the effective cross-section by using quantum resonance effects or other advanced physics concepts currently in theoretical stages.
Breakthrough in Detection: Moving beyond conventional photodetection, using quantum coherent technologies or metamaterials could enhance the interaction rate detectable by the system.
Scalable and Safe Operation: As the system scales, ensuring safety and managing the high-energy particles and radiation produced will require advanced shielding and remote handling technologies.
Example of a Scaled Concept
To visualize what a scaled-up neutrino power transmission system might look like, consider the following:
Accelerator: A 10 GeV proton accelerator, with a beam power of 1 GW, producing a focused neutrino beam through a 1 km decay tunnel.
Neutrino Beam: A beam with a diameter of around 10 meters at production, focused down to a few meters at the detector site several kilometers away.
Detector: A 100 kiloton water Cherenkov or liquid scintillator detector, buried deep underground to minimize cosmic ray backgrounds, equipped with around 100,000 high-efficiency photodetectors.
Power Output: Assuming we could improve the overall system efficiency to even 0.1% (a huge leap from current capabilities), the output power could be: [ P_{\text{output}} = 1\text{ GW} \times 0.001 = 1\text{ MW} ]
This setup, while still futuristic, illustrates the scale and type of development needed to make neutrino power transmission a feasible alternative to current technologies.
Conclusion
While the concept of using neutrinos to transmit power is fascinating and could overcome many limitations of current power transmission infrastructure, the path from theory to practical application is long and filled with significant hurdels.
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tobiomark · 1 year ago
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Oh dear......
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prokopetz · 11 months ago
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The Victor Ninov situation is one of my favourite cases of scientific fraud because it's rare to see so straightforward an example of someone being brought low by their own hubris.
Like, okay, faking the synthesis of a previously unobserved element: it's one of the few varieties of scientific fraud that actually has a clear gameplan for getting away with it. The physical properties of unobserved elements are, in principle, predictable, and there are only so many ways to go about synthesising them. If you do your homework, it's not outside the realm of possibility that your claimed results will end up being at least mostly consistent with the results of subsequent legitimate efforts to synthesise that element, and any minor discrepancies will end up being dismissed as statistical anomalies and/or the product of sloppy experimental design. It's by no means an easy game to play, but it's a game you can conceivably win.
And Victor Ninov did it. He rolled the dice and he won – twice. His fabricated results for elements 110 and 112 were corroborated by later work, and nobody noticed that his actual data was a crock of shit. He got away with it as cleanly as he could have hoped. It was only the third time he tried it, with element 118, that he biffed it and claimed results which nobody could replicate, and this is the only reason his earlier frauds were discovered. If he'd quit while he was ahead, it's likely the first two incidents never would have come to light.
Like, they say the third time's the charm, and buddy here learned the hard way that sometimes, the opposite also holds true.
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nyaa · 30 days ago
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北へ。/ Kita e. White Illumination (1999) Sega Dreamcast
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m0rbs · 1 year ago
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Trials and tribble-ations deleted scene
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pinkmoon-fox · 8 months ago
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1.4.24
trying to romanticise studying a bit more again. had a really rough time mentally earlier this year, up to the point where i had to postpone my exams bc of panic attack. i am better now, still not great but better. trying to work constantly but respect my minds/brains boundaries. we will see how it goes
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directactionforhope · 7 months ago
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Less technology used for evil, more of this shit
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itsgerges · 8 months ago
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fuckyeahfluiddynamics · 8 months ago
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Farewell, Saffire!
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After eight years and six flight tests, NASA said a fiery farewell to the Spacecraft Fire Safety Experiment, or Saffire, mission. Each Saffire test took place on an uncrewed Cygnus supply vehicle after undocking from the space station.  (Image and video credit: NASA; via Gizmodo and NASA Glenn) Read the full article
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michael-pemulis · 1 year ago
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get you a woman who can, should, and will saw a 1 inch steel bar in half by hand
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ivanttakethis · 6 months ago
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I think when Till gets rescued by the rebels, the video should cut to black with like 20 seconds left.
Then you slowly see a small red light fade in at the center of the screen just before the video actually ends…
But that’s just me idk
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transmasc-rose · 5 months ago
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RULES: make a poll with 5 of your all-time favorite characters and then tag 5 people to do the same. See which character is everyone's favorite! (tagged by @seaweedstarshine)
Tagging (don't worry if you don't want to/have done it already!): @transgenderdoctorwhomst @27-27-gruff-triplets @quietwingsinthesky @lost-tardis-room @a-shard-of-quartz-lol
#rose rambles#thank you for the tag!!! :D#like Tree I tried to keep it to one per fandom#which meant I had to pick one from doctor who...#if I'd kept it to just dw It'd be Nine/Rose/Amy/Clara/the Master#also for the characters with the & symbol#its because both characters are Very Strongly Associated#Grima is the dragon/deity that possesses Robin in fea that he was like#born to be the vessel of. You usually prevent it from happening but the DLC/future story has it happen#and the story is preventing an event that by one view already occurred#as for Hermes and Fandaniel. Hermes was the ''full'' soul who took on the position of Fandaniel#and Fandaniel as mentioned on the poll refers to the soul piece in ''modern'' time that takes on the mantle of Fandaniel and body of Asahi#and has the memories of Fandaniel#but doesn't fully identify as Hermes#Fandaniel#or his most recent life Amon#he wants to blow up the world to end reincarnation👍#might as well explain the other two then for doctor who followers uhh#Jin is part of STREGA#a group of teens that were experimented on to awaken their Personas artificially#which is slowly killing them (their psyche is physically lashing out at them). So they also. Try to end the world.#The kids are left taking ''persona suppressors'' which is an experimental medication that is both the only thing keeping them alive and is#also slowly killing them. It doesn't get the chance to kill Jin though.#he's one of 3 (4 if you count the light novel) surviving kids out of 100 from the experiment and by the end of the game only Chidori is lef#And now Will Graham.#You probably all know Will Graham. And I have rambled long enough. But he's the origin of one of my names.#Most of these guys are villains thats just sort of how these themes get represented#and I'm nothing if not consistent lmao
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