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Dick : I should send a message to thank Jason for the case.
Jason after receiving the text : What the fuck- TIM CALL BRUCE DICK'S GOING TO KILL HIMSELF, FUCKING DEPRESSED FUCKER
#dc comics#batfam#dick grayson#batkids#batfans#dick grasyon#jason todd#Dick is depressed#And Jason is scared#Lmao that's so them#crack#incorrect dc quotes#inccorect quotes#batfam incorrect quotes
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Dick and Tim eating breakfast in silence:
Tim: so what was the Great Depression like
Dick: it was fine.
#itâs funny cause he was introduced a year after the Great Depression ended#shitpost#batman#dc comics#bruce wayne#dcu#batfam#batfamily#dc robin#dick grayson#Tim Drake#nightwing#red Robin#incorrect batfamily quotes#incorrect dc quotes#incorrect batman quotes#incorrect batkids#tim and dick#theyâre sooo brotherism
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I like to think that Vulcans who come to understand that Humans just canât try to process emotions the same way as them, itâs just healthiest to let it out in harmless ways, decide that venting and stuff should be taken just as seriously as Vulcanâs meditation time, and will encourage the Humans around them to complain about whatâs upsetting them
People who are used to aloof Vulcans who avoid Humans at all cost running into one comforting a Human
â-and then they said my cheesecake was subpar, and they didnât even bring a dish!!!â
âThe purpose of this event was that every participant brings a food item of sorts, correct?â
âYeah!!â
âAnd they did not follow this rule while insulting dishes that were brought?â
âMostly just my dish but yeah >:(â
âHow illogicalâ
âThatâs what Iâm saying!!!â
#star trek#Vulcans#Humans#not based on a specific thing#but I used to know this annoying couple that were âfamily friendsâ#who would show up to potluck dinners and the like and would either bring nothing or bring something really just. out of left field?#like a bag of frozen chicken to a bbq#and then proceed to make sure they are first even if it was stated to let kids go first#would take HUGE amounts before anyone else got a chance to get a plate#and then make off with the leftovers again even if they were already claimed for#and it wasnât a food insecurity thing trust me I would never speak bad about a person getting food if that was even a remote chance#the adults who raised us knew them really well and weâd been to their house a ton of times#they were just dicks#and yeah. theyâd occasionally insult the food. while eating the MAJORITY of it.#it was so weird at their home they would go out of their way to get the healthiest options possible#you know the really bland tasteless expensive stuff that apparently was healthier#but then if they were visiting our house they would. eat all our unhealthy snacks.#that always pissed me off so much as a kid because we actually had a food insecurity thing going on#and also a variety of other reasons that are a bit too depressing to bring up on this post#but anyways weâd hardly ever get to have nice snacks#and this couple would just take them all??? even after weâd tell them repeatedly that it was ours and those snacks werenât gonna be#replaced#hated that couple#if youâre wondering why they were âfamily friendsâ itâs because the couple who raised us#(it feels weird to type it out like that but apparently legal guardians doesnât fit since they never finished petitioning đ)#liked having them around because it made them look like âsuch great Christianâsâ being nice to the people#that no one else wanted to be friends with#I always thought that was a really weird and fucked up reason to be friends with someone#this got long sorry đ
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I need Battison to have a Robin.
I need him to carry around a little bundle of joy in his arms. I need him to risk his life saving him from the movieâs big bad. I need him to hold his tiny hands or cradle his tiny face. I need him to crack the smallest of smiles when Robin makes a pun.
I need him to walk into the penthouse, tired and anger and sad, and see his little Robin sprawled across the floor, giggling as his crayons draw him and Alfie and Bâtheir little family.
I him to crawl out of the darkness with Robin. His Robin.
#and I know this version of Alfred will call Dick birdie#I can imagine Dick being captured by a villain and Battison just going fucking mental#and then he gets to his kid and hugs him so so tight and his eyes are shut because he was terrified and he presses his face in Dickâs curls#I donât know where this came from#maybe Iâm depressed?#maybe I need to rewatch the Batman?#dc#dc comics#bruce wayne#batman#batfamily#dick grayson#batfamily headcannons#battinson#robert pattinson batman#the batman#matt reeves#robert pattinson#make battinson a dad Iâm begging you
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interrupting Jason's saturday afternoon book binge is one way to make him pissy
spot as many easter eggs as you can :>
#i dont think he's a neat freak at all times#as someone said his gear would be really kept neat but nothing else#depression does a lot#that room prolly smells like cigarettes sweat and dried bodily fluids#the more i draw the less effort i put into it#holy fucking shit#jason todd#red hood#dick grayson#nightwing#fanart#drawing#art#digital art#illustration#dc#dcu#dc comics#batman#dc fanart
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Dick, after Tim nearly sacrificing himself Again: Tim .... you know we care about you... right?
Tim: That's strange...
Jason, was eavesdropping: What is?
Tim, blandly: The data does Not support that
Dick: Wha..?
Tim, pulling out a PowerPoint full of wacky transitions and clashing colours, titled "Evidence That Tim Drake Does Not Matter": Alright, do you want all the evidence starting with my parents or just what's relevant to the bat clan only?
Jason: Jesus, replacement.... please send this PowerPoint to a therapist and get so much help
Damian: Drake! Why is Richard crying?? What is this trash?
#tw child abuse#tim drake#major depressive disorder#jason todd#dick grayson#damian wayne#tim needs so much help#i'm not projecting you're projecting#my childhood fucked me up#batfam shenanigans#batfam
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A faint knock on the front door of your apartment echos through the hallway and to your bedroom, but you donât bother to get up. Theyâll think youâre not here and leave eventually. The lights are off and donât give off any indication that youâre home.
They knock again, this time a little firmer.
You roll over in bed, tucking your head under the covers to block out the sound. Suddenly, the click of the lock and door creaking open fill the air - heâs here.
âPeach?â Bakugo calls from the living room, feet pattering anxiously around your apartment in search of you. âYou here?â
It kills you not to answer him, but thereâs no way in hell you want him to see you like this, disheveled and miserable. Maybe if you stay still, you can trick him into thinking youâre not hiding away from the world and arenât home.
âYa havenât answered my calls in three days,â he says aloud as his footsteps approach your bedroom. âYour girlfriends, too. Called ���em this morninâ looking for you.â
Youâre busted, thereâs no running from Katsuki Bakugo. Heâs not stupid or naive. Why did you think you could hide from him?
Bakugo lets out a sigh of relief when he sees your body under the covers in the dark. Carefully, he makes his way to your bed and sits on the edge.
âThere you are,â he says quietly, nowhere near his normal volume. Thereâs no bite to his words, only genuine concern. âYou okay, sweetheart?â
Ha - no. Not in the slightest.
The blanket shifts a bit when you curl further into yourself. Bakugo reaches for the hem of the comforter, tugging it off of you in one motion. Thatâs when it sinks in and he understands the situation, maybe a little too well.
âI get it. Yâdonât wanna be seen as weak,â he speaks, both reflectively and to you. âBut beinâ down doesnât mean youâre weak, youâre human, peaches. Ainât nothinâ wrong with being sad.â
âYou didnât have to come,â you muffle into the pillow, hiding your face from him. âIâll be fine.â
âNever said you wouldnât be. Doesnât mean I canât be here or worry about your ass.â
Let him in, he obviously wants to help. JustâŚlet him in. Whyâs it so hard?
âI donâtâŚâ you trail off, unable to tell him you donât need his help. Finally, you sit up to face him, hair tangled over your shoulders and t-shirt drooping from your collarbone. âI donât want to scare you away.â
Bakugo laughs. âScare me? Gonna have to try a lot harder than that. What kinda hero would I be if I let ya rot away in bed?â He scoops you into his arms and squeezes you firmly. âLet me take care of you when youâre not feelinâ up to it.â
#idk what this is really#truly feel that Katsuki would understand depression and not be a dick about it once he sees whatâs happening#heâs patient because heâd want someone to be patient with him too#he also feels validated and needed when heâs helping people#which is why he wouldnât hesitate to pick you back up one piece at a time#â.rei daydreams#â.bkg dreamscapes#bakugo x reader#bakugou x reader#soft bakugou
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timothy "i have better taste in music than u" drake wayne, ceo
#i dont really have an explanation other than that this is funny in my head#and that tim sometimes reminds me of a friend of mine whos an absolute music snob#hes is exactly this brutal#also american football is a great album but never fails to depress me#welcome to the black parade is art obviously#tim drake#dick grayson#jason todd#robin#red robin#nightwing#red hood#batman#dc comics#my art#ladies. gentlemen. you have eaten well.
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Broke: "Dick Grayson was upset at a new kid taking over his mantle because he doesn't think Jason will be good enough as Robin"
Woke: "Dick is upset at Jason, not because he's suddenly taking over the mantle he created, but because Jason isn't nearly feral enough of a child to drive Bruce insane in Dick's place"
Dick: You wanna be my successor? Go swing from that chandelier right now.
Jason:
Dick: As a matter of fact, I need to see you crawling all over the walls. Make a ruckus, break some furniture
Jason: But Bruce-
Dick: SCREW Bruce. Your job as my new brother is to make his life HELL. Why are you so polite? Why are you so calm? Where's your DRIVE, your PASSION, huh? You may be worthy of the title of Robin, but are you WORTHY of being my disaster brother?
Jason, a little scared: I dont-
Dick, scoffing: The youth these days just don't rebel like they used to.
#Bruce watching Dick take Jason out on a lil hangout day: Im sure everything will be fine :)#Alfred: You have no idea what youve done.#Dick: do you at least have any hobbies#Jason: i read#Dick: (in tears) i got such a BORING brother#[jason coming back as gotham's new uprising crime lord]#dick: see THATS what im talking about FINALLY a worthy successor#dick: remember littlewing when u turn 16 u gotta up the angsty teen performance tenfold just to REALLY make B's life difficult#jason a few years later: *dies in the most horrifying way possible leaving Bruce an anguished depressed mess*#dick: Wow ok I did NOT think he'd outdo me like this#this is how they bonded as brothers :)#this is kinda a continuation on a prev post abt Robin Jason being the polite kid lol#jason todd#dick grayson#nightwing#robin!jason#red hood#bruce wayne#batman#batfamily#batfam#batdad#batkids#batbros#dc#crack#incorrect quotes#fanatical posting
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Prompt
Tim is a genius, so itâs really no surprise that heâs got the number of each batfamily member saved in his phone long before he becomes Robin.
But then Jason dies (and comes back to life) and Tim is struggling to keep Bruce alive and Dick from spiraling.
To cope with the stress of having the lives of Gothamâs two most important vigilantes depend on him he starts leaving Jason voicemails and text messages on his old number detailing progress and setbacks, fears and hopes, and the dream of finally finding somewhere he belongs. Along with the crushing realization that Timâs own hero â Jasonâ is long dead.
Unbeknownst to Tim, Jason listens to and reads every single one of the messages.
#Timâs diary consists of messages sent to a dead boyâs phone#feel like crying today?#Jason is so angry at first#but then he gets attached#so quickly#Tim just detailing his daily life#and itâs absolutely depressing#Bruce Wayne is lowkey trying to not live anymore#dick isnât doing much better#Tim is still a child but he wants to fix things#Jason comes back early#jason todd#batfamily#batfam#dick grayson#bruce wayne#robin#Tim drake#Damian Wayne#fic#prompts#Batman#batdad#batbros#enemy to caretaker
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I like the fact that Jason has this weird, but founded, idea that Dick is the perfect guy. And he thinks that Dick knows what a great person he is.
What's really interesting, is the fact that this isn't true, Dick does not agree with him.
He is convinced that he is 'poison' and that he isn't a good person.
So when Dick have a mental breakdown, feeling like he doesn't deserve what he got, he doesn't deserve people appreciating him, it make no sense to Jason.
And that gives me so many ideas about a conversation between those two, because Jason can't stand the fact that Dick doesn't see himself the way everyone does.
#Dick Grayson analysis#dc comics#dick grayson#jason todd#dick is depressed#fanfiction writer#I have no idea for new fics#If you have anything#Please lmao#I'm begging
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Disgustingly messy and crusty sketch dump but I couldn't get my own terrible theory out of my head and ended up making a bunch of sketches about it. Also at the end a bonus dickbats and Damian doodle bc I was reading an issue of their Batman and Robin run (IDs in Alt)
#dc comics#dc#batfamily#batman#damian wayne#stephanie brown#tim drake#dick grayson#cassandra cain#duke thomas#anyway. zdarsky run sure is something huh?#its still so funny to me that half of 148 was leaked a few days before like someone has it OUT for that book over at bleeding cool ig#i don't necessarily think this theory will come true I'm just imagining how stupid it would be if it did#I'm not super happy with the dialogue in the cass+duke+dick comic but i felt my og dialogue might've read too fanon#mainly just bc cass' last sentence was originally shorter/just ellipses and duke said smthin like ''wait? villain arc?''#which you could easily find in wayne family adventures. even tho it would've been appropriate for this situation đ#now the dialogue just sounds kind of generic (esp cass') and it's BOTHERING ME AUGHH. this is the comic book fandom panopticon /j#anyway Bruce is in the retirement home in this scenario /j#me n my friends were talking over discord and came up w the cursed scenario that jason is tims robin in this (apart of the 'redemption' arc#-that he's been nail gunned with in this run. god this run is so weird when it comes to jason. like it doesn't outright dislike him-#-like it clearly does damian and (more obviously) cass steph and duke) but the tone of everything w jason is still bizarre#god. anyway yeah i didn't draw him but please picture grown man tank Jason in the robin undies (ala tt 03 but dare i say better)#also the dick being silly sketch was bc the issue i was reading had damian refer to dick as 'jolly'#specifically like ''unreasonably jolly'' or something like that (god i love when ppl find dicks cheerfulness deeply unsettling hehehe)#and i thought it was so funny. bc damian met dick when we has going through his ''bruce is dead'' depression-#-and STILL thought that dick was extremely unserious. he sees happy dick and is like ''what is wrong w you. genuinely''#but at the same time he loves it#i need to stop reading their batman and robin run so scatteredly (or i can just reread nightwing must die...always a possibility)#anyway yeah đ bad sketches be upon you#mine
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I Never Blamed You (Part 6)
So, where has Dick been?
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Dick was not going to reach out to Bruce first, he absolutely was not. He wasnât wrong, and Bruce was never going to change anyway! Their fighting was the reason he had gone to Bludhaven in the first place, and their relationship had only gotten worse when Bruce had taken in Jason, and worse again when he died. Dick had blamed Bruce, but he had blamed himself more, for not being a better brother to the kid. Ya sure he hadnât wanted a brother, but that was how siblings usually worked! He should have been there! And now here he was, not being here for Tim either, and feeling like complete shit about it.
He apartment was a fucking pigsty and he didnât clean it. He hadnât been taking care of himself, heâd been eating junk, he was barely sleeping. He was not doing well and he didnât care. He didnât care about much other than his patrols and being Nightwing, he didnât care about much besides saving people. Like maybe if he saved enough strangers he could make up for not saving his brother.
He couldn't.Â
He still checked in on the rest of the family sometimes, and he never blocked Batman on official channels so if they really needed help they could call him. Bruce had never blocked Dick either, or locked him out of their servers, if he did Dick would probably cry.
It had been a few months so it was time to check in again. He still wasnât locked out thankfully, so he had a look around at the most recently updated files. What were Bruce and Tim having issues with in Gotham?
The most accessed file in the last few weeks was the one on Red Hood and his partner Hyena. Dick really didnât know that much about them besides they were Gothamâs new crime lords, and he had heard on the news Hyena had killed the Joker. Dick felt like he owed Hyena for that. He had succeeded where Dick had failed after all. He still held a small grudge against the people who had resuscitated the bastard, Nightwing had killed him on purpose after all.
Dick opened the file on Hood, propped his chin on one fist and leaning against the desk, bored and tired, ready to skim the file before moving on. He froze, his body going completely rigid as any trace of his previous fatigue fled his body.
Alias: Red Hood
Civilian name: Jason Todd
It couldnât be the same Jason Todd, he was dead, it had to be an awful coincidence surely! But he read on with rebid hope anyway. It wasnât a coincidence. It was Jason, the Baby bird. Heâd grown so much, heâd changed so much!Â
Dick barely remembered to turn off his computer before he grabbed his suit and headed straight for Gotham, and Crime Alley.Â
It was half a miracle that Dick didnât crash on his way to Gotham with how fast he was going, and how little attention he was paying. He wound in and out of traffic to get to his little brother as quickly as possible, ignoring everything else till he reached Crime Alley. He abandoned his bike more than parked it, and went looking for Red Hood.
They must have access to the cameras in the Alley, or maybe just a network of informants, because they came to meet him long before he would have found them. Both Hyena and Hood were there, but as soon as Dick saw Red Hood he zeroed in and barely noticed Hyena, didnât even hear the way he snarled when Dick rushed towards Jason.
Jason made a âdownâ gesture to Hyena who subsided and stopped growling, fading partially into the shadows, though he was still watching them intently.Â
âIs that really you Little Wing?â Dick breathed, he felt like the hope was choking him and he didnât even know if it was real. Heâd had delusions and hallucinations before, and Jason featured in them regularly. Hood looked tense, his arms were crossed and his posture closed off, he didnât seem exactly happy to see Dick.
âWhat do you want, Big Bird?â He asked. The nickname, even through the modulator Dick recognized the way Jason said it.
Dick was shaking he realized, and he could feel the burning of tears behind his eyes as he crumpled in on himself. Hardly a warm reception, but of course it wasnât. Why would Jason want to see him? He had been a terrible brother, he hadnât been there when Jason needed him, he hadnât been there for Tim. He shouldnât have come, shouldnât have intruded on Jasonâs new life. He was probably better off without Dick anyway.
âIâm so sorry,â He managed to choke out. âIâm so sorry I wasnât there, that I wasnât here. B didnât tell me, you- No, you didnât have to tell me, you donât have to accept my apology. But I wish-â He was interrupted by a little hiccupping sob. He shook his head and brushed away his tears with the back of his hand, furious at himself for his useless self pity. âI wish Iâd been a better brother to you. I should have been there, I should have saved you.â
A pair of strong arms wrapped around Dick and he surrendered to them immediately, if Jason hurt him he probably deserved it. But no, Jason just⌠held him. âI donât blame you Dicky,â Jason said softly and the floodgates just broke. Dick wrapped his arms back around Jason and sobbed into his broad chest, clinging like a child and barely processing it as he was picked up. Hyena leading the way and Jason brought him to their nearest safehouse.
Dick passed out before they got there.Â
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Danny opened the door for Jason and quickly disabled all the traps so Jason could carry Dick in and lay him down on the couch. He covered Dick with a throw blanket and slumped down into a chair, taking his helmet off and took a deep breath, letting his head fall back against the chair with a soft thunk.Â
Danny trotted to the kitchen and put a pot of coffee on to brew. Once it was done and Jason had a moment to collect himself Danny poured Jason a cup. He pressed it into Jasonâs hand and curled up on Jasonâs lap purring softly, Jason was sure he wasnât actually happy right now, but knew Jason found the sound soothing and was doing it for his benefit. He appreciated it.
He absently rubbed Dannyâs back while he processed his feelings. Danny didnât say anything, they never really demanded answers of each other, Jason appreciated that too.
âI didnât know he cared this much, or that he was doing this badly,â Jason told Danny softly. âI should have reached out to him. I thought he already knew and just didnât care.â
âItâs not your fault, you didnât have a great relationship with him before did you? You didnât think those things for no reason,â Danny told him.Â
âYa, heâd left by the time Bruce took me in and he was barely around. And when he was Bruce and he would fight and heâd storm off,â Jason said with a sigh. âBut heâs thinner now, and so tired. I didnât realize-â He cut himself off, hiding his face in Dannyâs shoulder.
âHeâs here now, weâll work it out,â Danny promised, and his confidence did soothe Jason, at least enough to come out of hiding and sip his coffee.
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Dick woke up to the smell of fresh baked bread and cinnamon. For a moment he thought that he must be at the manor, and it felt like it had when he was a kid, but when he stretched he realized he was sleeping on a couch. He paused for a moment, and all the memories from before came back. He sat up abruptly and looked around wildly.Â
âWell welcome back Sleeping Beauty. Seriously, how long has it been since you slept?!â Jason asked, and the other man sitting at the kitchen island cackled. He recognized the laugh, even if Hyena was out of his suit. âYouâve been asleep all night, I made cinnamon rolls.âÂ
As if to prove it Hyena held up his half eaten cinnamon roll, and then took another big bite. âThereâs coffee too,â Hyena said with his mouth full, Jason whacked him with a spatula for it and Hyena dramatically pretended to be hurt. Jason rolled his eyes.Â
Dick blinked and got up, warily approaching the counter as if he expected them to reject or attack him. Jason just got him a cup of coffee and a cinnamon roll as he sat down. Dick picked it up and nibbled it, it was delicious enough that he kept picking at it, even though he didnât have much of an appetite.Â
âHow long have you been back?â Dick asked Jason softly. He should introduce himself to Hyena properly, but he couldnât seem to focus on anything but Jason right now. Heâd grown so much, he looked older than he was. Where had that little boy gone?
âI came back about six months after my death but I wasnât all there,â Jason said, turning away to pour his own cup of coffee. âThe League of Shadows found me and dumped me in the Pit. I had the worst case of Pit Madness afterwards. It took me a year of training with them, and another year with the All-Cast before I really knew who I was enough to come back to Gotham, and Iâm still not the same as I was before. I never will be,â Jason said like a warning as he pulled up a stool and sat down across from Dick and Hyena.Â
âTheyâre pretty common ongoing side effects of resurrection like that,â Hyena added, finally drawing Dickâs attention to him. âIncreased violence and obsessive tendencies are pretty normal. So are the grudges and the need for closure, I mean, it makes perfect sense doesnât it?â
He stretched across the table towards Jason, and Dick finally noticed the white in his hair. It matched Jasonâs now, though the placement was different. Jason absently brushed his fingers over Hyenaâs open palm in a brief but practiced caress. Hyena grinned up at him fondly. It made Dick feel out of place.
âHow would you know?â Dick bristled, he didnât mean to, and he shouldnât have. He just hated how well Hyena obviously knew Jason when Dick didnât know him at all. He had always been a bit of a jealous person.
âBecause I died too and I was the same! And I wasnât even exposed to this Pit stuff,â Hyena explained with a little shrug before straightening up again.
âOh,â Dick sounded, deflating again, he really shouldnât be picking fights. He'd rather focus on Jason anyway. âWhy didnât you tell me you were back,â He said looking at Jason and trying not to cry again. âYouâve been back for, what, 8 months? You could have reached out.â
âI didnât think you'd care, we werenât exactly close,â Jason said with a shrug. Dick felt like he had been punched in the gut. âWhen I revealed myself to Bruce and asked why he hadnât avenged me he threw a batarang at me to stop me from killing the joker and slit my throat,â He said, tilting his head to show the scar. Dick felt like he might throw up at the sight. âI guess I didnât want to risk reaching out again.
âI figured I was pretty well disowned and didnât have a family anymore-â
âBesides me!â Hyena chirped, smiling at Jason who gave his partner a look of fond exasperation.Â
âYes, besides you. So I just kept going with what I was doing, making Crime Alley a safer place and stuff. I did reach out to Tim and weâve had dinner a few times, but I guess I figured⌠I heard through the grapevine you didnât come to my funeral. I didnât think there was any reason to reach out.â
âI was just in denial,â Dick admitted in a near whisper. âI didnât want to believe you were gone. I never got a chance to be a better brother, I thought that Iâd have more time I guess. Bruce and I, we both fell apart after your death. He got violent to the point Tim felt like he needed to step in,â Jason was nodding, Tim must have told him about that. âBut I did too, I had nightmares, and didnât sleep to the point I started hallucinating you. I beat the Joker to death and never forgave the fucking EMTs who resuscitated him, even though I couldnât bring myself to do it again.â He sighed and rubbed his face. âI missed you.â
âDamn⌠Iâm sorry Dick, if I'd known it fucked you up that bad I would have reached out. I just assumed since Bruce and Tim knew, you must know too. I wasnât that surprised you didnât come, but I didnât blame you.
"Not this time, and not when I died either. I was mad at Bruce, not you, you didnât ask for a brother and I understood that. I wasn't your responsibility.
"But, I guess, youâre here now, and I am too. We can try and start over. Itâll have to be slow though,â he glanced at Hyena, who nodded encouragingly. âThis is going to be⌠a lot. For both of us Iâm sure.âÂ
âRight,â Dick agreed sheepishly. âWhatever you need Little Wing, Iâm sorry I just showed up without warning last night. I just needed to see you.â
âItâs okay, Iâm⌠glad to know you care. No one told me that you tried to kill the Joker.â Jason paused and shoved the plate of cinnamon rolls towards Hyena. Huh, Dick hadnât noticed him trying to sneak another one. Hyena looked sheepish as he took another, Jason shook his head at his boyfriend before continuing. âJust take better care of yourself okay? Next time I see you I don't want you passing out in my arms again,â Jason chided him.
âYa, ya I will,â Dick agreed with an embarrassed little blush. âIâll reach out to Tim too.â It was way past time to do that.
âGood, heâs a good kid but his self worth is in the fucking gutter. Heâs going to work himself to death before heâs 30 if someone doesnât give him a healthy role model, and some support, and we all know Bruce wonât do it,â Jason huffed, rolling his eyes.Â
âIâll do my best to help,â Dick vowed. This was a second chance he never expected, he was not going to waste it.Â
#fanfiction#danny phantom#dc x dp#jason todd#dead on main#my writing#dick grayson#Hyena!Danny#batfam#long post#multii part fic#dick grayson has eldest daughter syndrome#Dick Grayson has depression
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Imagining the absolutely chaotic day when Bruce Wayne tried to teach certified nerd Jason Todd how to defend himself against opponents fighting with a sword. Cause you know that training sesh instantly devloped into Jason running around like:
⌠and Bruce just gives up.
#dc#dc comics#bruce wayne#batman#batfamily#jason todd#jason todd funny#jason todd robin#batfamily shenanigans#Jason such a silly lil nerd I love him#I bet Bruce looks back on that day though and just cries himself to sleep because Jason was so witty and he didnât deserve to dieâŚ#Bruce would do anything to bring back the boy who would quote Russel Crowe in the sparring mats#wow that was depressing#where did that come from? jeez#anyway when Dick tried to rope Bruce into coming to the new Gladitor movie Bruce has to leave the theater early because he starts crying#HA I HATE THIS MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE#i just đđđđ
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MDZS and asshole victims: thoughts on the second siege of the burial mounds scene
this post is not about morality judgments. this post is about reader sympathies only.
one rather clever rhetorical trick MDZS employs is putting all the more background "surviving victims of wei wuxian's actions" into one big angry mob at the second siege of the burial mounds, instead of letting them crop up anywhere else in the story. it's easy for a first-time reader to write off the guy who lost a leg at nightless city, or the guy whose parents died at nightless city, because both of those guys are being dicks. they're part of an angry mob baying for wei wuxian's blood--unfairly baying for wei wuxian's blood, because this time he didn't even do the thing they're saying he did. by putting these two victims into a mob of not just fellow victims but also unaffected individuals (ie. sect leader yao, who just showed up for kicks), the story can effectively equate these victims' grievances (ie. "you killed my parents") with unreasonable mob rule--even if these two things might not actually be equivalent.
the effect of this rhetorical trick, then, is that the reader can at once perceive the themes about mob mentality MXTX wishes to convey, and also effectively write off the victims' complaints. "yes, i did that to you, but i literally died already, what more do you want me to do? shall i walk on my knees repenting?" becomes easier for the reader to accept. and more importantly--wei wuxian's likability as a moral and just protagonist is not impacted.
ngl tho. it would be a bit more difficult for the reader to write off these victims' complaints if, instead of meeting said victims in an angry mob, the reader instead met these victims almost anywhere else. imagine if, instead of meeting mr. "you killed my parents" at the second siege of the burial mounds, we instead met him getting smashed at the local bar and crying about how his parents are dead. imagine if, instead of meeting mr. "you chopped off my leg" as a member of an angry mob, we instead met him begging for alms on the side of the road because his disability rendered him unable to work in a wuxia-esque setting. or imagine--if either of these background characters, overcome with survivor's guilt and trauma from nightless city, hung himself in his bedroom, and the next day his body was discovered by his 15-year-old daughter.
all of these scenarios are entirely plausible. you could easily include any of them into the story without changing the main plot at all. but suddenly shit just got a lot more depressing.
however, no such scene would ever be included in MDZS. the reason is that, as a work of fiction, MDZS's single most ardent goal is for us the readers to conclude not just that "we like wei wuxian as a character," but also that "wei wuxian is ultimately a morally righteous person." when the narrative focus shifts onto the people who were actually helped by wei wuxian's actions (mianmian and her family, lan sizhui, the few months of dignity the wen remnants were afforded) this becomes much easier for us to conclude; wei wuxian does indeed look like a hero. but the more narrative focus is given to the negative impacts of wei wuxian's actions--the more the "victims of wei wuxian" (whether actual victims or not) are given a face, instead of abstracted away by broad summaries--the more the reader might side-eye wei wuxian instead. every new victim given a name, given narrative attention that isn't just focused on making them look like an asshole, arouses the reader's sympathies in the opposite direction--and thus increases the risk that the reader might ultimately disagree with the novel's conclusion of "wei wuxian is a righteous person."
tbh, this does not seem like a risk MXTX particularly wants to take. instead, she's mastered the art of writing Asshole Victims.
which is an entirely valid writing decision, because imo basically every work of genre fiction out there does this to some extent.
#mdzs#yanyan speaks#yanyan haterpost#tbh this is also why jzx gets so little narrative focus#wwx kills him...so if the readers like him too much they might turn against wwx. which is no bueno.#this is also why jc is such a dick in the present half of the novel:#wwx did cause him a lot of harm (and vice versa) so it's easier to write him off and not get mad at wwx if jc is a huge dick about it.#jc's easy to hate lmao. asshole victim.#this is also also why jyl had to die.#she's too nice to be an asshole victim.#like if fucking jc starts ragging on wwx you can easily argue that he also did xyz wrong. also he's being a douche.#but if jyl starts crying about her murdered husband then shit just gets awkward and depressing.#anyways real apologists will say Skill Issue. godspeed kings
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Any dc writer with balls should have Bruce go through a whole ass mental breakdown when Jason dies
I donât mean just yelling no at the sky and then punching people in the face- I mean going catatonic for hours at a time, refusing to eat or sleep, he goes mute again like he did as a child, he maybe even makes an attempt on his life, and yeah heâs also punching people but heâs Lettjnf them Hit him Hurt him because Alfred took away anything he could use to hurt himself with at home
It drives Dick away not because he doesnât care but because he Can Not Do this. Heâs also grieving and his dad looks through him like heâs not there. He doesnât talk or even look at him most of the time and so he canât be home he physically cannot fucking be home
And then Tim comes along. And Tim will talk to Bruce even if heâs not listening, even if heâs not there because heâs used to talking to himself. And heâs said robin died but heâs not in grief like Bruce is- he follows him out on patrol where if Bruce gets hurt or refuses to talk Tim could get hurt a Child could get hurt. Bruce is forced to eat and sleep and take care of himself because Tim is there and Tim needs him, or at least he pretends to and thatâs what matters
#itâs like getting a pet when youâre depressed-you canât disappear or else who would feed them?#batfamily#batman#bruce wayne#batfam#jason todd#tim drake#dick grayson#depression mention#sucide mention
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