#devin grayson

[cardboard-writer]

Slade taunting Dick Grayson:

Source: Nightwing Vol 2 #112

[kelaeri]

Dear DC,

Please stop with the Nightwing butt jokes; they're not as funny as you think. They were already bad enough in both canon and fandom, particularly in recent years, but to release a new web title completely centered around the notion?

Quite frankly, it's disgusting.

It's disgusting to oversexualize any character, but when a character's entire ethnic background was rewritten to satisfy 'exotic' stereotypes-- who was SA'd and was is often the subject of overtly sexual remarks-- it cuts a little deeper.

[erinwantstowrite]

Trigger: SA

I just found out that apparently in Devon Grayson’s comics for marvel she wrote that daredevil SA’d Yelena? Like are you serious?? The man that became a vigilante BECAUSE he wanted to stop a r*pist??? (His backstory might be different in the comics, but STILL) Like that makes absolutely no sense and it’s so disgusting

she CONSISTENTLY makes terrible decisions like that. she's fucking awful

[tiger-in-the-flightdeck]

I feel like making waves!

(Some of these are like my Anti-Takes, so oh god please do not come raze my home to the ground and salt the earth!)

[residentwordsofaffirmationdealer]

urbanity co-opted and loyalty endured

I was reading old comic writer interviews and this interview in particular with Devin Grayson was very interesting.

"As a character, Dick is a fascinating study on contradictions. He's a natural born performed who hides behind a mask. He's an effusive, gregarious soul who is used to isolation and secrets. He's a genuine romantic who doesn't know much about relationships. He's an exceptionally bright competent and charismatic leader who is also the ultimate sidekick. He's surrounded by death, and completely in love with life. And he's restless and contemplative and in many ways something of a loner who is yet without question the most loyal man you could ever hope to meet." "Denny-san once brilliantly referred to Batman as 'urbanity co-opted'. I've come to think of Dick as ''loyalty endured'."

"The struggle to be useful and content in a dark, chaotic world. The fight to maintain a sense of purity and innocence while never, ever blinking or turning away from reality."

"There was so much there: in the dynamic between the two characters, in the rich originality of animation, in the recreation of modern myth."

Also her talking about being confused on how many robins there are was too real -- "'Robin stuff -- I mean when did he lose the little green shorts?' My friend asked me if I meant Tim. Tim? 'Well, there have been three Robins actually since -- oh, four if you count Carrie Kelley...' Three Robins? What the hell was going on?"

[fantastic-nonsense]

if I had a nickel for every time a writer of a major Batman character was given a long run, specifically used their run to "break" the character and bring them to their lowest, and had the theoretical intention of building them back up only to get derailed by multiple event comics and a shortened run caused by fan outrage and low sales, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened twice.

[feliphesilveira-blog-blog]

[seekingxanadu]

Bat fandom rages at Devin but not at Wolfman for the sexual assault- Maybe because the assault is simply the veil not the real reason. The real reason they rage at Devin is because she made Dick Romani.

Wolfman written assaults barely register even in fics - except as throwaways- and nowadays the Tarantula assault is used in fics to have trigger-happy Jason add one more to his serial killer count.

Most of the time when fandom talks Dick's sexual assault, it is to either blame him for it, to have Jason kill someone, or to use the canon as excuse to write more sexual assaults on Dick.

[have-you-read-this-comic]

Propaganda under the cut

[starrycomics]

Gotham Knights #26

Tim giving Dick the mental equivalent of a roundhouse kick in steel toed boots with that one

Like he’s absolutely right but he’s also lucky Dick didn’t break all three rules at once and send Tim to an early grave

[allovesthings]

"Devin Grayson's Nightwing had a lot of well-documented problematic elements and weird writing all over the place" and "The way the fandom attacked her when male writers were doing the same thing or worse is misogynistic" are two statements that should co-exist.

Wolfman is out there doing the exact same thing she did with Tarantula twice and he gets called the best writer for Dick.

Nixon is out there making Dick a cop and is the reason why people think Dick is a player, and also have a lot of women kissing him without his consent including Catwoman and he is sexist towards the women in the comics and his Nightwing solo is acclaimed as one of the best solo run.

Tom Taylor is destroying Dick Grayson as we speak and some people are still praising him for it.

Morrison is out there, also doing the same thing with Talia and Bruce during Dick as batman and they are still called one of the best Batman run ?

Some of her runs are pretty good actually. She writes a great Roy (his mini-series is genuinely great) and she understands the dynamic of the Titans. She was part of the Bruce Wayne murderer/fugitive which is a very solid Batman/batfamily run and she also wrote Gotham Knight which had some similar elements to her Nightwing run when Dick was present but it's pretty good..

[armed-with-a-waffle-iron]

Devin Grayson's Dick has no balls.

[theloverboy27]

enemy sighting at my job

[erinwantstowrite]

Hello!! I'm new to the DC fandom and I want to ask why do people hate Devin Grayson? I think it's cool she has the same last name as dick but I'm starting to think it's not just that

i'll save you before you find out from another more traumatizing source (tw for SA under the cut)

Devin Grayson changed her last name to Grayson because of the character, and it's not in an innocent way. In her time writing for Dick Grayson, she inserted a character based off of herself and had said character sexually assault him. If you want to know more details about that, I'd recommend finding someone else to explain it in full, because I bet there's someone out there who's made a whole list of shit.

Also, she specifically made Dick Grayson canonically Romani, but again, not in an innocent way. She fetishes Romani people and it's just... icky. All around.

Overall, there's a LOT of reason to hate her. I hate her so much that I refuse to write anything canon that she wrote. Dick is Romani in LoF but that's because it was a headcanon prior to her writing

[wannabe-british-fangirl]

~ books read in 2024 ~

#31: First Test: A Graphic Novel by Tamora Pierce, Devin Grayson, & Becca Farrow

"I did not agree to this, Your Majesty."

Rating: 4.5/5

Three Sentence Review: What a delightful little return to Tortall and Kel's story! While the tale was quite abridged, I understand why for the sake of space, and I thought the illustrations were gorgeous enough to make up for it. I hope this helps introduce a whole new generation to Tammy's books!

[punkeropercyjackson]

What's funny about Batcest defenders is they use the 'historical accuracy' excuse but Batcest hasn't actually had any longlasting,overt effect on Batlore or irl movements and thus is not a cultural aspect,neither to comics culture nor any other kinds of cultures.'Older gays thought of Robin and Batman as a gay metaphor in the early Batman comics days' is the one you'll hear the most but this was never a plot point in said runs and Bruce and Dick were established as having a mix between a brotherly bond and a father and son relathionship ever since Dick's debut issue and they were never written with anything but familial ties in mind and given no gay-coding that implied attraction to eachother specifically.Yes,Batman as a franchise frequently plays into camp but this was moreso in Bruce's gender presentation and mannerisms and interactions with his fellow male adult heroes and his villains like Clark and Harvey than anything to do with Dick.At the time these allegations were thrown,the awareness of children's rights and by extension what did and didn't count as child abuse was extremely low and inclined in favor of normalizing the latter due to the ageist dehumanization of kids and if you're going to include older gays' opinions on this,it's only fair you listen the younger gays of the time too lest you fall under the same ageist rethoric that got them abused-Or more specifically groomed,as what a romance within 'Batman and Robin' inherently is

It took literal decades for Batman and Robin to actually be written as a canon ship and the writer in question was ragingly racist at the time who very purposely employed romani heritage into the previously white Nightwing specifically to fetishize him further but has since apologized for this as well as her Batcest canonization,stating she was trying to cope with her own incestous csa trauma but went about it the wrong way.Tim/Cass was only canon pre-Cass adoption and discarded when the writers finalized they're decision to make Cass Bruce's adoptive daughter,Jason/Dick/Tim in any combo has zero canon depicitions despite there popularity,the closest thing to Damian Batcest is him brefriending a deaged Cass in the Harley Quinn 2019 comics but even then we're not truly given anything beyond friendship with them and Duke as an official Batkid has far more pagetime and grounding than any Batcest ship.And yet........So many Batcest shippers defend the erasure of the first ever black Robin,a legitamely revolutionary and major Bat-Addition and Batfact that is treated as such in-universe by the narrative(and by Jason 'I see a black boy and imma ride with and for him typa beat' Todd)and out of universe by black DC fans,as if the words of 'queer elders' they never met and were dangerously very possibly actual en masse pedophiles are more important to them that of black Batfans who exist with them,us and you today

If you were to bring up the Batfam to someone irl,their first thought would be 'Oh,it's Batman and his kids!!!',not to start talking about ships of them.In my experience,through cultural osmosis most people who don't read comics already know The Batkids are siblings and are puzzled,shocked and disgusted when they find out people ship them.Batman and Robin/Batgirl are not known as an 'otp' but as a dad and son/daughter duo almost universally even to non-superhero fans and it's pretty widely aknowledged in the case of Batgirl specifically they're a bad ship that ruins her character by reducing her down to a love interest for an older man according to those who've only watched animated adaptions and most of all by those who're heavily invested in Babs as a character i.e dedicated enough to read her comics.It's almost like.......Batcest is a defect,not a feature,and only comes along when bad writing strikes.........and is fueled by bigotry rather than queerness as seen by the racism in it's first insertion,the misogyny in the cishet versions and the antiblackness by the posers in the fandom..........and that trying to prove it as 'historically accurate' is something only done by chronically online predominantly white gooners with intersectionality issues who use gaslighting as their tactic...........Who woulda thunk incest wasn't actually an intentional element in a mantle created to be an escapist fantasy for children first and foremost,which is a legit kept historical part of it as seen by DC refusing to let anybody who's 18 or over hold it to the point of keeping Tim eternally 17........That's crazyyyyyy