#corrupted miraculous heros

[redtippedfox]

All characters in this AU are aged up and are adults

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“She watches you as you sleep, she controls your destiny, she is Wenet, fear her for she is the beast within the burrow”

Corrupted Rabbit Miraculous holder Alix! Meet Wenet, based of the Egyptian moon goddess. Wenet’ s concept design was originally white with red colors added but she still looked like a normal rabbit holder so instead of white lets try black! I definitely love the black over the white version. Out of all my characters design this one if my favorite, we’ll be seeing a lot of her soon~

Here’s her concept art:

[silentmagi]

Guardian Socqueline & Miraculous Heroes and Ladydragon vs. Corrupted Butterfly Marinette - We Must Be Strong And We Must Be Brave

Listen, there was many terrible, horrible, terrifying things...

They had to face it like heroes, even if they wanted to curl up and kiss their arses goodbye.

[jade-gamer]

deathmatch but teenagers heros sing it

[christaspirit]

This almost perfectly fits an alternate version of an OC of mine… hm…

It probably happened at some point with someone else though, so let’s go for it!

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Working with the League of Heroes had been her dream since she’d unlocked her meta abilities. Like, super strength, durability, and flight?! Classics! She loved helping people too!

Initially, she started doing small hero things on the side whilst she finished up high school, and then, she was lucky enough to be approached by the League! They’d heard of her and offered her a position to join!

She spent more time with them than she did at home, with parents who couldn’t care less for her. The pay was minimum wage, but she was still in high school, and living with her parents, so it was fine.

But then she turned 18.

Her parents kicked her out, and even though she’d been saving for the last 8 months, she had nowhere near enough to afford an apartment. Getting a second job was out of the question, she got called on for missions often, questions would be asked. It was heavily discouraged if you worked with the League.

So she threw herself into league work, dropping out of high school. She needed money, and despite asking, she wasn’t given a raise.

She wanted to believe in the League still. Sure, the rules were a bit loose at times, and they called her out of school for missions at times, but they did a lot of good!

But then Blackstar, one of the top members, had his younger sister quit the league and vanish into thin air.

It had been a long time coming. Fern Amery, AKA Daybreak, had been a member of the League since she was 13, just after she’d gotten her powers. Despite that, she had been on one total mission. Most of the world didn’t even know what her powers were (plants, though many assumed water because of her blue costume). It wasn’t that she was bad at her job or anything. She was the most skilled out of all the teen heroes. But her brother was overprotective to a fault. Fern had practically been raised at the League, taught most of the teen heroes to fight, yet every mission request was turned down.

What exactly had caused her to quit out of the blue was a mystery. Well, sorta. The mission she’d been on, dealing with a killer robot, had something to do with it. But whether it had to do with the called for destruction on the suddenly harmless robot or the odd… disappearance of the man who’d created the robot was up for debate.

Off topic, whoops.

Packing the last of her things into her bag, Jade Stone, AKA Rebecca McLean stared around at the small room that she gad lived in for the past almost two years.

The League gave her a minimum wage. They gave her a place to sleep. They gave her food.

But there were more underlying issues that she hadn’t noticed before.

What exactly had happened to the man who made the robot was a secret kept by the higher ups, but rumors of him having been killed were spreading. The rumors of what had happened to Lady Arsenic, and whether her manor burning down was actually an accident had started up again.

And the thing about living at the League’s base was… you were expected to be ready to do hero things at all hours of the day. If you were at the base, you had to be working, there was no time for personal activities or hobbies.

But she was never going to get her own space at this pay rate.

Rebecca closed her bag, and shouldered it, leaving the room the way it had been when she’d first used it.

She wanted to use her powers to help people, but not to the point when she lost herself. She didn’t want to become like Blackstar. He’s started out like she had, a teen hero with stars in his eyes. Fern had looked up to him.

But along the way he had changed.

She refused to be like that.

One of the several “villain” teams had offered her a place in their ranks. They had good pay, she could get her GED, go to college, get an actual job, whilst still helping people. Even if it was more… morally grey this way.

She would’ve loved to join the hero team Fern had started, and when she’d reached out to Fern (Fern’s location wasn’t really a secret, her brother had been half stalking her and her new teammates) she’d been willing to let her join. The team seemed great too. The gal behind the chair (likely the robot, and also Fern’s girlfriend), Silverwolf the alien shapeshifter, Shepard the no power genius, and even Cardinal, the absolute sunshine (though she was a mystery. No one knew how her powers worked (she wasn’t a meta, nor was she alien), nor did anyone know her identity, something that Blackstar was extremely upset about).

But the issue was that Fern didn’t provide pay at all. She didn’t make much money herself, nor did the others, and there was still the issue of working a regular job. Not to mention Rebecca didn’t have a high school diploma.

So a “villain” team it was.

Rebecca let out a deep breath, and headed out to her new life.

So long, League of Heroes. It was good while it lasted, but she needed something else.

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Characters mentioned (full names that might have not been disclosed):

Blackstar AKA Kiran Amery (hero)

Daybreak Vera AKA Fern Amery (hero)

Automated Vengeance Android AKA Ava (hero)

Silverwolf AKA L'ynx Kenshin (hero)

Shepard AKA Rheagan Auger (hero)

Cardinal AKA ??? (hero)

Jade Stone AKA Rebecca McLean (hero villain??)

Lady Arsenic (villain, deceased)

You are a superhero who joined a team for pay and benefits. However, the pay is minimum wage since you have no education and they made it so you are blackballed in the civilian world so you can’t work there either. So imagine their surprise when you joined the villain’s team.

[sillysiluriforme]

Hi hello! In la terreur au, do the heroes develop corruption proportional to the time they spent with their miraculous? So, like, at some point Luka is already sunbathing and eating rats and Juleka has not yet developed her zoomies and mood swings? (And Marinette has already had her ocd-like acidic-coloured worldview for a while?) Or is it like flu, and when Cat and Ladybug get corrupted, everyone gets corrupted like a snowball?

I like your au and your style a lot! It is so uncomfortably charming, i like how colours you choose match the vibe you choose :> corruption scares, I rarely considered it before. It's cool

Your first guess was correct ! It’s proportional ! Prolonged exposure leads to aggravated symptoms.

And thank you !! I love writing unnerving things and putting down pretty colours. My biggest art pet peeve is bad contrast. If it’s a night scene just make everything blue. I hate when you can’t see shit. Unless it adds to the scene. Most of the time I hate it tho.

[stars-obsession-pit]

A Chat among Bats (ML x DC)

Ladybug and Chat Noir manage to defeat Hawkmoth, unmasking him as Gabriel Agreste in the process.

Adrien does not react well to the realization that his father was the villain they’d been fighting all along. He’s Chat Noir, one of the heroes, he should have noticed. And the public suspicion on his civilian identity due to the familial connection does nothing to help that guilt

So he runs. No identity reveals with Ladybug (he doesn’t feel like he deserves one), no formal public goodbyes in his hero identity. Just… grabs a ticket and vanishes. Maybe leaves some notes at most. He had no idea where he’s going, but surely anywhere could be better than Paris.

He lives off of his savings and money from odd jobs as he wanders (and perhaps the occasional theft from criminals or the corrupt), eventually meandering path into the crime-ridden city of Gotham. There, his heroic instincts (plus the fact he still has the Black Cat Miraculous) lead to him taking up a new heroic identity, joining the ranks of the city’s vigilantes. And probably also causing Selina to fight Bruce over who gets to adopt him.

Marinette, unsurprisingly, took his vanishing poorly. She didn’t immediately know his secret identity, so from her perspective two of her favorite people just vanished at the same time. Learning that they are actually the same person maybe helps a little in that regard, but it also reinforces her thoughts that she failed him.

So of course she continues to look for him. She knows he probably wouldn’t want to return to the spotlight, but she still wants to help him out if she can. Or at least apologize for her (perceived) failure.

And thus, when she happened to recognize a certain individual in a news report from Gotham, she immediately booked the first flight she could. She needed to see him again.

[frickingnerd]

a game of cat and mouse

pairing: claw noir / adrien agreste x gn!reader

summary: as the holder of the mouse miraculous, you try to stop claw noir's reign of chaos. but he doesn't seem to take you very seriously, instead proposing that you join him!

tags: (attempted) corruption, open ending, enemies to lovers, hero!reader, cat & mouse dynamic, flirting (claw with reader)

“the mouse chasing the cat? that's unheard of~”

paris’ villain number one grinned at you, showing off his fangs, as he effortlessly dodged your attacks.

you had been trying to catch this cat for a while now, trying to stop him from hurting more innocent civilians. and yet, you could never lay a finger on him. not even with the miraculous of the mouse which you had received to aid betterfly against shadybug and claw noir.

“you won't escape this time, claw noir–!”

you huffed back in response to his mocking, only for claw noir to grin even more. almost as if he had anticipated you'd say that.

“you know, mouse, you always push everyone in your life away, but i'm the one you're always chasing. doesn't that ever get boring~?”

you hesitated for a moment, which claw noir used to get the upper hand and press you against the nearest wall and pinning your hands above your head, to keep you from fighting back.

“and just like always, i'm the one in control. come on, mouse, just give up already. when will you realize that you could have so much more fun on the side of the villains~?”

you glared at the devious cat in front of you, knowing it had no sense to struggle. it always ended like this. you always lost against him.

“i'm not giving up. i'll chase you for the rest of my life, if that's what it takes!”

claw noir grinned and loosened the grip on your wrists, only to shove you back against the wall the moment you tried to attack him again.

“the rest of your life? that's a claw-fully long time, mouse. well, my offer still stands. you could be my little sidekick and i'll protect this mouse from all the other hungry alley cats. or you can keep fighting me and i'll have to show you why they call me claw noire…”

he turned around at you again, grinning self satisfied, before grabbing his staff and getting ready to leave.

“think about it, mouse. you and me, we could be great together~”

[ijustliketoreadstuff]

Gabriel does not like whats changing

The more we kept getting references to feathers and rings being close to Adrien and those in his family, who knew of the peacock miraculous, the more it became obvious that he was a sentimonster brought to life with the help of the peacock miraculous.

(Moments from "Miraculer" and "Gorizilla" subtly showing two rings and feathers being constantly close to the Agreste family and Nathalie)

And per the power of the peacock miraculous, Adrien's amok was attached to something, specifically two rings, the very ones his parents wore, a terrifying thing to learn because it meant that anyone who was in possession of Gabriel and Emelie's rings, could gain full control of Adrien and make him say and do whatever it is they wanted, which is what Gabriel has been doing a lot, each time worse than the last as he becomes more and more willing to ruin the happiness his son has built on his own.

(In "Adoration, Gabriel attempted to stop a moment that would've solidified Adrien and Marinette's relationship even further, by using one of the rings in his possession to take control of Adrien and stop him from kissing Marinette, forcing him to tell Marinette to leave. )

We don't know for how long Gabriel has been controlling Adrien throughout his life, but it doesn't seem like it was always this way, at least not when Adrien upheld his title as the "perfect son" to the Agreste family, but when he did, he would almost always start his command with the same words, "Adrien, I am your father...". Gabriel had his little moments in the past where he showed just how much he cherished his son, how worried he was over Adrien's safety if he was ever too close to danger, but the longer he let his obsession over defeating the heroes consume him, the more he lost sight of his moral boundaries, seeing no wrong in controlling Adrien through the ring during times he believed Adrien was showing defiance or was just plain not being the seemingly perfect well mannered son who took his parents word. 

("Megaleech" was one of many times when Gabriel had been shown clearly reaching for his ring to take control of Adrien. )

(In "Protection," Gabriel aimed to end the relationship between Marinette and Adrien, at first by trying to convince Adrien he shouldn't settle for dating Marinette, believing his own son deserved to be with someone who was considered to be as perfect as he was, like Kagami. When Adrien rejected Gabriel's advice to break up with Marinette, Gabriel used the ring to command Adrien to stop seeing Marinette, an order that was later removed, thanks to Nathalie, who was in possession of Emelie's ring.)

Unlike in previous seasons, Gabriel is shown to be more willing to use his ring to take control of Adrien during the most important moments of his life, because unlike before, too many things were changing.

Gabriel has always had this picture perfect image in his mind over what his family will be like once Emelie was brought back, and it for one would be exactly as he remembered and expected it to be. But now, everything Gabriel was hoping for his family and their future, is all gradually crashing down, and while he for one wants to believe it is the fault of Ladybug for preventing him from obtaining the miraculous that will restore his family, he also wants to believe it is the "bad influence" of Marinette, and others whom he views as imperfect, that's corrupting Adrien and ruining the perfect future that was made for him, but its not. Things are changing, because the people who are the closest to him are changing. Adrien is changing.

The fact of the matter is, the Agreste family could never go back to the way Gabriel remembered. Emelie had been gone for more than a year now, and while he still clings to the past, Adrien has tried the best he can to move on with his life, by learning to live it.

Adrien has made efforts to learn to live his life by gaining new experiences, meeting new people, building new friendships, forming his own independence by developing his own views and opinions, and has made his share of mistakes while simultaneously learning from them.

Adrien will always keep his mother's memory in his heart just like Gabriel said he should back in "Felix", but now that Gabriel is watching Adrien step farther and farther away from the son he remembers spent his days in the mansion, close to him and Emelie, it upsets him.

Gabriel has said before in "Passion" that everything he is doing is for Adrien's happiness, but his idea of what Adrien's happiness should be, does not align with what is making Adrien happy now. Adrien was most certainly not meant to find happiness without his mother in his life, he wasn't supposed to question his fathers judgment over what was truly right and wrong, and he was definitely not meant to find true love in a baker girl like Marinette. Gabriel has talked to Adrien about everything in his life that is falling a stray from the path that he believed was best for him, or rather, set for him, but for the majority of those times, Adrien chose to politely disagree with his father and stood up for what he wanted in life.

Adrien didn't want to start a relationship with Kagami again out of his fathers insistence, because they both realized on their own that they were not meant to be. Adrien didn't want to cast Marinette aside because having her in his life gave him that sense of love and happiness he never thought he could have. Marinette wasn't Gabriel's idea of perfect, but Adrien knew she was perfect for him. Gabriel and Adrien's relationship has always been a distant one, and although it was obvious to everyone else that their relationship was strained, Gabriel remained blind to the unhappiness Adrien was constantly facing over his lack of understanding and attention.

In season 5, after Gabriel realized he was dying from the power of Cat Noir's cataclysm, for a few brief moments, he became the understanding father Adrien always hoped for, and even though he never intended it, it was his willingness to allow Adrien the freedom to experience time away from the mansion, with friends, that gave him the chance to properly spend time with Marinette and start a relationship with her.

Gabriel had an agreement with Tomoe to wed Adrien to Kagami, and he made a promise to Emelie that he would bring her back and restore their family, restore their happiness, but that can’t happen if Adrien is making decisions that go against it all. Rather than accept that his son was living his own life, away from the one he wants to think is best for Adrien, he instead found it easier to use the ring that Adrien was bound to, and order him to do as his father told him.

Gabriel has had the advantage of taking control of Adrien at any given point in time, but the one time Gabriel realized he couldn't, was back in "Risk," when Felix took Adrien's place without him knowing. Felix, disguised as Adrien, talked back for Adrien about not wanting to go on the modeling trip, a trip that would last months. Gabriel had angrily disapproved of Adrien's(Felix) defiance and did not hesitate to reach for the ring that would allow him to put a stop to it, but for the first time in likely his entire life, Gabriel had to face Adrien without that sense of control over him conveniently within reach, and it must have been terrifying, because what he saw in Adrien's(Felix) eyes, was something he never thought he would have to actually experience facing alone, but is now forced to face regardless of possessing a means to control him, and that something, was Adrien's free will.

[maddascanbe-blog]

And the time has come. This guy...

To get it out of the way, I based his civilian design off of his initial concept art, its spooky and sterile and makes Gabriel look almost fake. Hawkmoth meanwhile...

This shows the first major change to how the shows magic system. If a miraculous is used for evil it will corrupt the transformation, turning the holder monstrous in exchange for the magic. So yes the wings are sprouting out of his head like a zombie in the last of us. Underneath his skin is twisted and scarred,

Character wise, Gabriel's motivation will stay the same up to a point. I liked when season 4 seemed to decide on making Gabriel pure evil, falling from having a sympathetic motive to caring more for revenge than his once noble intentions.

Gabriel starts out wanting to save Emelie, then Ladybug tells him during Heroes day what the wish will cost. Now apprehensive at the concept of destroying all of reality or sacrificing a life he and Mayura slow their attack to look for a way around it. But when nothing comes up she prompts him to give up his quest entirely. Only he refuses, instead doubling down and insisting that he already has a solution to the problem.

After all, bringing Emelie back only requires a sacrifice. They never said it had to be willing, and there's a red dressed heroine who he would love to see suffer.

Next is Nathalie

[immaturityofthomasastruc]

If we're talking about Duskmon in this blog, a huge missed opportunity I think Miraculous made was not having Gabriel to steal just some Miraculous and make an evil group of people corrupted indefinitely by their negative emotions because they developed a grudge against Ladybug, maybe being purified later, it'd be so much more meaningful to have Chloe, Lila, Felix and maybe Kagami and Kim to rivalize the heroes in that way than by making someone who began helping her employee irredeemable or a mean girl becoming the evil mastermind or the sexual assaulter that committed genocide a hero.

I still can't get over the fact that even though Gabriel had over a dozen Miraculous, not once did he think of making his own Legion of Doom with them.

[starguardianniom]

The Dark implications of the Paris Special ending

Ok so we all saw the special and we kind of all figured out that basically Shadybug and Claw Noir were child soldiers tasked by the Supreme with retrieving the Butterfly miraculous so that they would be "spared", right?

So, does that mean the Supreme personally contacted them, or knows where they live and their identities? Meaning that now they'll be hunted down for becoming heroes and joining the resistance? Does that means the Supreme will go after their families? Or will send other holders after them?

Does it implies that now Emonette and Emodrien will have to go underground or something?

I could see them revealing themselves to Betterfly and him to them and they would become some sort of family, as Emodrien and Gabriel are already son and father and Emodrien will most likely date Emonette.

But that could complicate things further, if Emodrien is hunted, then Gabriel isn't probably safe as a civilian now, he could be captured to keep Emodrien in line or something.

Suddently I feel their problems just got bigger now, sure Shadybug and Claw Noir now are good heroes and their powers won't kill them anymore, but well their lives are about to get changed a lot, given Shadybug's fear at going back knowing the Supreme won't like that they defected.

So it could definitely be explored again in the future maybe, given they clearly aren't done fighting.

I must wonder if the Supreme use a miraculous himself, maybe the Rabbit or Horse for instant teleportation and safety anywhere? Or the Fox to have illusions anywhere and everywhere? Or the Snake to always have second chances?

Speaking of which, why did the Supreme gave Emonette and Emodrien the miraculouses when he usually gives them to the elites he keeps close to himself? Because he couldn't afford losing said elites but 2 random, angry and bitter goth kids? Sure, no problems. He doesn't tell them that they could use their kwamis for a wish since he overrided that, and that using their powers for evil would kill them in the long run, so he probably thought that they could accomplish their missions and still die from the after effects of their miraculouses after telling them they would be spared, and well he would probably spare them simply to watch them die slowly from the misuse of their powers and gloating about it as they die or something maybe?

Emonette realised it after failing to make the wish, she was dying from her powers, and was beyond scared and sad and broken at seeing how much she's fallen. She even said that getting the Butterfly back was all they had left. We were literally watching 14 years old teenagers slowly die during most of the special, people! Give those kids all the hugs, love and protection of the world please.

But the implications are dark and evil and damn I am so scared for those kids, and also that good Gabriel.

So we need another episode with them. Heck can we have the rest of the series with them please? I need to see Emonette befriending Alya and Emodrien, Nino. Need them to be the quad squad under daddy Betterfly and stuff, being a lil happy family fighting against the corruption of the Supreme in their world.

[redtippedfox]

Wooo! I am on a roll today! Here’s Capricorn! Corrupted Nathaniel. I started this piece while I was close to the end of my first freshman year and now I have finally finished it. I have a few more designs to finish but here is Capricorns official design Nathaniel wields the corrupted Miraculous of Passion and so he is greedy for things he does not need. He is constantly drinking wine while smoking a strange cigarette. All I have left is Marc, Alix, and Rose.

We’ll be seeing more of the corrupted holders next chapter.

[m3nt4llyr4v3d]

Miraculous and Redemption

You know, I think I understand what my issue is with this show’s stance on redemption. It’s not specifically who gets the redemption, even the hypocrisy of who does or doesn’t get redemption/forgiven is only one part of the issue.

It’s specifically how they treat the characters who don’t get redemption.

I have seen, in media, where terrible characters who’ve done terrible things get a redemption, and the mean characters, who are just mean, don’t change at all. That’s fine! People are complex, some change and some don’t, some have done horrible things and some are just school yard bullies. It’s fine to showcase this, I mean hell, in the Owl House, Boscha was still an asshole in season 2, and this was past the point that characters like Lilith were forgiven (Lilith isn’t really terrible in Season 1, she just has done a lot worse than Boscha)

Miraculous’s massive issue with this, however, is that the narrative/the authors treats those mean characters as worse than those characters who’ve done horrible things.

I mean, what other media has one of the creators say that some high school bully is comparable to Trump when her literal rich, corrupt, politician father is right fucking there?

Usually the media where a terrible person is redeemed and the mean character isn’t doesn’t treat it as a moral issue. It’s not “oh well this person can’t change” or “oh this person is even worse!” It’s usually “they’re mean, and that’s annoying, but oh well”. That media never treats the character like Satan incarnate, or treats their meanness compared to actual villainy as a moral issue. When characters are around them, they aren’t treating that mean character as literal scum compared to the former villain, the narrative doesn’t treat them as more than an annoyance or, for lack of better words, “small fry”. I mean, while Owl House acknowledged that Boscha was still a prick in season 2, they didn’t act like she was worse than Belos.

Miraculous treats Chloe and Lila, some petty, mean teenagers, as the literal devil compared to other characters. Lila is a master manipulator who somehow convinced 3 people she’s their daughter and has a trillion disguises! It doesn’t matter that that twist came out of nowhere, and it makes it a little weird that this teenager has multiple disguises that she uses around the city apparently, one where she looks like a 20 year old, making people theorize she’s an adult because how on earth is she smart enough or resourceful enough to do this. Chloe is a villain comparable to Gabe, even when she was a hero! Her backstory doesn’t justify any of her actions, but for literally everyone else, we are going to justify their actions! If they don’t do that, they’ll just sweep their actions under the rug completely! It doesn’t matter that she’s consistently being manipulated by the fully grown adults around her, she’s terrible don’t think about it! She neglected her father somehow (???????????????????) so it’s fully justified to send her off with her abusive mother! We aren’t even going to acknowledge that Andre literally had a part in raising her and her turning out this way, because somehow he did no wrong! And what sucks is that it’s succeeding at making those characters appear that way, because some fans are completely genuine when they say that Gabriel is more sympathetic than them. I mean, if you frequent the Reddit (which you absolutely shouldn’t, one way or another it will melt your brain), you’ll consistently see character rankings with Gabriel, Lila, Tomoe, and Chloe in the same category. Somehow the show put the bullies in the same categories as the literal abusive terrorist and his helper in these people’s eyes. You will constantly see these literal teenagers be put on the same category as adults who have done infinitely worse. Even Andre, who is a corrupt politician and terrible role model and literally RAISED CHLOE… is “woobified” by some fans, even going as far to say that Chloe abused him! Nevermind how that would even be possible when she was like, 5-7 when her mom left! I can’t point my fingers at the fans for this though, because the show goes out of its way to place all of its sympathy on the adults, even when they don’t deserve it, EVEN WHEN THE PAST WRITING LITERALLY PAINTS THEIR ACTIONS AS BAD

(It also doesn’t help that the fully grown adult’s actions are all forgiven but god forbid you’re terrible as a teenager, then you’ll get sent off to live with your verbally abusive mother while your basically deadbeat father adopts your half sister literally right after wiping his hands of you)

I will talk about the hypocrisy in redemption at some point, and how bias and forgiveness is handled, but godDAMN, this sucks

[baenyth]

Bethany's Bizarre Miraculous Fic Prompt: Hawkmoth Gets Owned By Various Fictional Detectives

Basically I want to see Hawkmoth/Shadowmoth/Poopmoth/Monarch fail more since he kinda sorta won last season. And it's also crossovers where different fictional detectives (or just people on the Kira case square,) out Hawkmoth as Gabriel Agreste once and for all and hopefully do similar stuff such as outing Lila as a liar, dragging down other corrupt adults like Tomoe and Audrey, etc. and also just various funny moments with these characters interacting with the Miracucast. Here's some ideas I have from characters I know or are just interested in:

Lieutenant Columbo. I already made a post detailing it.

L from Death Note. I haven't watched Death Note, but if the memeposts are to be believed, he would outthink Gabriel Agreste at every turn. Probably ask him to show what's behind his ascot.

Shuichi Saihara from Danganronpa V3. Aside from him deducing Gabriel as Hawkmoth with the help from his friends, imagine the shenanigans. Gonta being ecstatic for the bug-themed heroes and how nicely they treat the purified butterflies. Kokichi takes down Lila by being Kokichi. Tenko is aware of the plot and tries to get Marigami together and make them kiss, alongside getting an Julerose kiss. Kiibo and Markov bond. So do Kaito and Rose. Kirumi somehow becomes mayor of Paris.

The Scooby Gang. In general I like the concept of silly guys managing to defeat Hawkmoth. They would accidentally find the secret elevator to Emile's pod and manage to use Ladybug and Chat Noir as bait for a trap and at the end, (since I like to imagine they're meddling adults at this point,) Gabriel Agreste grumbles that "at least it wasn't those meddling kids Ladybug and Chat Noir." They also take down the rest of Paris's elite because that's who the villains of Scooby Doo are.

The Duwang Gang. I think Kwamis and Miraculous heroes can see stands, but I'm unsure about akumatized people. Maybe. It turns out Crazy Diamond can heal people wounded by the Peacock but they pull the plug on Emile for the health of everyone. Rohan Kishibe uses Heaven's Door on the Miracukids and gets into accidental meta commentary upon discovering the full love square. He also uses Heaven's Door on Luka and it's sheet music. Maybe let Yukako join in too because of how much of a romancefest this show is and also because I like her and she had such a big presence in Great Days. Gabriel Agreste ends up with a similar fate to Yoshikage Kira, being surrounded by our heroes and helpless to do anything.

Sam and Max. I don't know much about them other that they're 1. funny guys, and 2. might just end up hitting Gabriel Agreste with their car.

Steve from Blue's Clues. Aside from the inherent humor of an educational kids show host taking down a terrorist supervillain, it also implies Blue knows who Hawkmoth is. Steve sits on the thinking chair to deduce Hawkmoth's identity and where he's hiding.

Courage the Cowardly Dog. Maybe Muriel and Eustace are dead and he was sent to live with Mylene and her dad. I feel like they'd get along well. Or maybe they're still alive and just visiting Paris and Muriel and Eustace are staying with Mylene and her dad. Either way I think this should take place around season 5 because the alliance ring works well with Courage's themes of paranoia over something supernatural putting your family at risk.

Agent P. Maybe Hawkmoth gets so desperate he gets Doctor Doofenshmirtz to build a wife-revive inator only for Emile to end up in another coma after accidentally pressing the self-destruct button on said inator. No one recognizes Agent P without his hat because this is Miraculous and people are dumb. Perry gets to beat the stuffing and tar out of Hawkmoth. Doof betrays him when he learns about how shitty of a dad he is. The miraculous heroes are allowed into OWCA on account of the animal theming.

The Smiling Friends. It starts off with a mission involving all of the main four helping Marinette smile and spirals down from there.

Not Batman. I've had enough Miraculous-Batman crossovers for one eternity.

[genshin-scenarios]

Chapter 2: dark side of dawn

Reembarking Starlight Masterlist

Characters: Paimon, Diluc

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It takes you a moment to break away from Diluc’s gaze, as if you’d just been hypnotised by the embers of a fire. You're saved from blurting out his name when Paimon flies towards you at record speed, almost knocking you over with a hug.

“Are you alright?!” She exclaims, teary-eyed. “Paimon thought you were going to be crushed!”

So did you, to be fair. “I’m fine, thanks to him.” You look at Diluc, who measures something between confusion and contemplation in his eyes. “Thank you for the save, Mister…?”

“Just Darknight is fine.” He averts his gaze to look at the defeated Ruin Guard, whose core has been pierced through completely by your attack. “You have pretty fast reflexes. It looks like that thing’s disabled for good.”

Paimon’s eyes widen as she follows his gaze and sees the damage. “When did you learn to do that?” She gasps. Lamely, you shrug.

“I guess I just shaped anemo into whatever I thought could help.” You rub the back of your neck. “There wasn’t much thinking involved, to be honest.” Your arm is still tingling from the recoil, but you don’t draw attention to that while you ask Diluc what he’s here for.

“Likely the same reason as you—to investigate the ruins.” He crosses his arms. “You don’t look like a local, though. Are you new to Mondstadt?”

Paimon explains that you’re an outlander who’s in search of a missing friend; seeing as you aren't sure whether the Abyss twin is Aether or Lumine, you’d decided to claim they were an old travelling partner, whose image is now fuzzy in your mind. 

But even after clearing out the remaining treasure chests and separating from Diluc, you didn’t come across Dvalin’s tear. Paimon’s starlight tinkling accompanies you as you return to the city deep in thought, before a weight dips from within the mysterious confines of your backpack. An energetic ping enters the air.

‘Meet the Darknight Hero achieved! You have been rewarded with: x2000 mora, x1 corrupted tear.’

You stop in your path and rummage through your backpack until your fingers graze something smooth and small. The teardrop glows blood-red, pulsing with a heavy, agonised power.

“Did you find another crystal?” Paimon floats closer to inspect it. “There’s no doubt they’re important, but I wonder what they are…”

You think about Dvalin and the lies the Abyss Order are feeding him, turning him enough to shed tears.

Will you be able to free him from his bad dream?

-

The master of Dawn Winery steps into the entryway of his manor, turning towards the shadow that welcomes him home. 

“Any updates on the Fatui?” He asks.

“They seem to be keeping their activities under close covers. So far, they have not started to act.”

Diluc has been keeping an eye on third-parties in Mondstadt ever since Signora entered the nation, but it seems like an unpredicted factor has joined the field—an outlander who wields the wind but has no vision, and can manipulate its form in miraculous ways.

“I need a report on an adventurer who’s recently entered the city.” He pulls the band off his ponytail. Diluc’s hair spills over his shoulders.

A strange traveller blessed by the wind…Just what new events will you stir?

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Given all of this kwami swap talk as well as you explaining how nonsensical it was to hand out the exact two Miraculous that Hawkmoth was looking for to the heroes meant to directly fight his akuma, I’d love to pick your brain about how you think the story would’ve gone if Master Fu gave Marinette the canon Dragon Miraculous and Adrien the canon Turtle Miraculous in Origins instead as well as them having Longg and Wayzz respectively to bounce off of from the get-go. Beyond me loving a classic sword-and-shield combo, I figure that this would still give Marinette the leading stance while giving Adrien the defensive stance in battle, which I personally don’t have a problem with when executed well given Adrien’s issues with self-control in deciding when and on what/whom to use Cataclysm and strategizing in general. In addition to that, having Shellter as Adrien’s power and Wayzz as his kwami would force him to take his and his partner’s disposition in battle seriously from the get-go, with Wayzz being heavily implied to be a kwami that prefers to take his time and thoroughly explain what needs to be done, meaning Adrien would have to show Wayzz that he really understands what he needs to do before getting the transformation phrase out of him.

On Marinette’s side of things, Longg is actually canonically confirmed from his first interaction with Kagami to be a kwami that prefers to take his time and thoroughly explain what needs to be done, which would lead to Marinette being calm enough from his explanation of what’s happening and what her job is to actually remember getting Stoneheart’s akuma the first time without any problems. This is especially in comparison to Tikki who, after Marinette tried to run what she said back to her with a clear lack of full understanding and confidence, even saying verbatim “Aww... this is all going too fast, Tikki... I... won't be able to pull this off!”, simply responds with “Trust yourself, Marinette. Just say ‘Spots on’.” without any further clarification or rerun.

Concerning actually cleansing the akuma, since lightning and especially water have far more cleansing symbolism than creation, either could easily act as the purification of akuma. Lightning could either burn away the negative magic corrupting akumas or burn the akuma itself to ash, which would also deplete Hawkmoth’s collection of butterflies at the time (though Marinette probably wouldn’t like the second option since they’re technically living creatures). An alternative would be Water “washing away” the negative magic in the akuma (while I’m mostly sure that akuma have been sent out in the rain before, Wind could be used to dry off the butterflies before they drown/so their wings aren’t damaged in case I’m misremembering and they’re like normal butterflies in that they can’t get wet). I know I specifically asked for your analysis on the canon Miraculous being given out, and while I would still like that I’m okay with fudging the Dragon JUST this much since it already has established advantages over other Miraculous, a minor wielder not detransforming until all three powers are used instead of just one for example. And while the restoration of Miraculous Ladybug would no longer be an option from the jump, I’m honestly cool with that this far into watching the show as it would push the Parisian officials to get off their butts and actually try to solve the magical terrorist issue WITH the heroes instead of expecting them to just manage everything.

You're actually hitting real close to my "fix" for the dragon with the whole sword-and-shield thing because I absolutely think that the dragon and the turtle should have been a matched set of sorts. I don't like the fact that only the ladybug and the black cat get paired up. I want all of the Kwamis to be part of some sort of set (doesn't need to be a set of two! Just a set). However, I don't see how a sword-and-shield combo fits Adrien and Marinette or how this miraculous pairing would work in the context of canon, though that may just be because I'm missing something. I'll give you why this isn't clicking for me and you can do with that what you will. Do not let me stop you from writing this fic or loving this concept! Fan theories are about having fun, not about appealing to me. I'm only giving you all of this because you asked for my thoughts. Don't feel obligated to read it if it makes you sad.

For me, Marinette's defining feature is her creativity and this setup removes that or at least heavily cuts it back. While you can be creative with the dragon's powers, they're basically just elemental speed boosts which isn't useful in most situations unless we're going to allow akumas to get electrocuted now.

The fights would also become a lot less unique as the heroes are now limited to a shield and the three flavors of elemental speed boost. Those aren't exactly the most diverse powersets in the world, especially given that the elemental thing requires you to physically charge in. You're not casting elemental abilities like a wizard. This new setup could still work if you nerfed the butterfly and made it so that the akumas didn't have such a wide variety of powers, but as-is, that doesn't sound like a balanced fight. The heroes feel too heavily disadvantaged and limited, especially given that they're now both close combat style fighters while akumas can still be ranged.

There's also the issue that Marinette isn't suited to close combat fighting. She has no training in any form of combat sport. Between her and Adrien, it seems more logical to give him the dragon, not her. He's the fencer, after all, and the dragon's weapon is that sudo sword baton thing. Adrien's also better suited to close combat fighting in terms of narrative role while removing Marinette's ranged abilities would further undermine her current role.

In terms of fighting styles, canon's setup is that Adrien does close combat and distraction techniques while Marinette sticks to long range attacks so that she has time to think. This is a really solid dynamic because it lets Marinette be creative. Making Marinette a close combat fighter would drastically limit her ability to be creative because you don't have time to be creative when you're doing that style of fighting. Your brain is simply too focused on survival (saying this as someone who fenced for several years). This is why tacticians are usually at the back of the battlefield relaying orders. You don't tend to send them to the front lines if you can help it.

The final issue with Marinette having the dragon in a canon setup is that I really don't think that you can get away with removing the magical reset button that is her ladybug cure. There are simply way too many akumas that cause mass destruction and even implied death. You'd have to massively nerf the akumas for this change to feel reasonable as it's not a minor change in stakes or tone. Akumas like Syren or The Bubbler would be impossible and you can never let anyone get injured because they now had to heal on a normal timeline, meaning that Adrien would probably end up sidelined before the end of season one.

While I get the desire to have the authorities step in and help more, your theory that the officials would work with the heroes doesn't really match what we've seen in canon or what tends to happen in these sorts of stories. The more likely setup is for the officials to work on solving the case without the heroes help or with the heroes only supplying the occasional tip/coming when summoned via something like the bat signal because, generally speaking, what information can the heroes really give them? Plus that setup requires the heroes and the government officials to have some sort of clear and open line of communication or standard meeting cadence, which is pretty risky and also ads at least one adult character who is now a major player in the story. An adult character who has this as their full time job while the teens are in school unless we're aging everyone up and letting the heroes be available during normal business hours or setting the story during summer vacation?

We've mostly focused on the dragon here, so let's take a moment to talk about the turtle. I do like Adrien as a backup user for the turtle, but you'd have to change the turtle up a bit if you wanted to make it his full-time role. Chat Noir is an incredibly dynamic fighter who jumps around the battlefield via a mix of acrobatics and his staff. Carapace's fighting style is much more tanky with him just holding up the shield and watching for opportunities to move in and defend with his power. This makes perfect sense and would be true for any turtle because of the turtle's weapon and power set. A shield is not suited to offense unless you make it work like Captain America's shield where it's a mix between a shield and a boomerang. For a normal shield, throwing it is a one-time use weapon. It's also not an offensive weapon, so Adrien would be heavily limited in terms of how he could fight.

And if we switch the turtle to Marinette? Then we're back to the whole limited-creativity thing. The turtle's power isn't meant for defeating villains. It's meant for protecting allies and civilians. Whoever is wielding it needs to be watching the fight, looking for risks. They can't give most of their attention to plotting how to win.

All that being said, I really like using the dragon and the turtle to flesh out the team. I think the turtle being the third member of the existing team would make total sense as a way to solve Chat Noir's self-sacrifice problem. You could also replace the black cat with the dragon and make it dragon!Adrien, Ladybug, and a turtle holder, but I'm not really seeing a functional version of canon that removes the Ladybug. It would be a wildly different story.

You asked about the Kwamis, too, so let's end on that!

Wayzz and Longg seem like solid mentors who could arguably replace Tikki without massively changing the feel of the story, but I'm hesitant to replace Plagg. Plagg's got one of the strongest personalities in canon and is the source of a lot of comedy to the point where his poor movie treatment upset a lot of people. Straight up removing him and replacing him with more serious Kwami would change that element of canon even more and I don't know if it would be a good change. Plagg and Tikki's opposing personalities give you a lot to work with. Wayzz and Longg would be way less dynamic and interesting as they're both responsible and calm.

We also have to keep in mind that a lot of Tikki and Plagg's flaws come from the fast pace of the show. Tikki rushed Marinette in Origins because the writers wanted to fit everything into 40 minutes and also establish why Marinette needed to cleans the butterflies in every episode, so they had Marinette and Adrien get their miraculous during the first akuma attack and then mess that up to establish the show's stakes. If they'd been given their miraculous even a day earlier, then things would have gone a lot smoother as Tikki would have had time to fully explain things since no one was in danger. This rushed stakes issue would apply to any Kwami who was handed out during an attack. After all, Wayzz and Longg don't exactly get to give Nino and Kagami detailed explanations when they were chosen either. If Adrien got the dragon or the turtle mid-battle, then I picture things going very similar to Kagami getting the dragon:

Longg: Greetings, young lady and good day to you. Fear not, I am Longg, the Dragon Kwami. Kagami: You're a what? Longg: A Kwa-mi... Allow me to tell you about the many feats that a magic being like myself will help you accomplish once the magic words have been spoken. (Kagami puts on the Miraculous) Ladybug has hopes that you will defeat Ikari Gozen with panache, using the element of your choosing. Wind, water or lightning. But firstly, let me tell you about her plan. Kagami: Longg, bring the storm! Longg: Wait! No! Not yet!

After all, that's basically what happened in Origins:

Plagg: Claws out! That's how you transform. Adrien: Got it. Plagg, claws out! Plagg: No, wait! I haven't finished explaining!--- (enters the ring)