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Back in 1990, George Perez produced a stunning 12 plate portfolio of Batman artwork, including his covers for "A Lonely Place of Dying"
However, he also did a thirteenth plate for an edition which was only available from Warner Bros Stores (Remember those?)
And what a plate it was, Batman and Robin sneaking through a nightmarish Gothic... Cathedral? Asylum? Petting Zoo (It is Gotham City)
And the villains! Anarky, Catman, Joker, Catwoman, Killer Croc, Poison Ivy, Ra's Al Ghul, Black Mask, Two-Face, Riddler, Clayface III, Scarecrow, Cavalier, Penguin, Tweedledee, Deadshot, Mad Hatter, Killer Moth, Tweedledum, Dagger and Dr Phosphorus (and I've probably missed a few)
#batman#robin#george perez#portfolio#Anarky#Catman#Joker#Catwoman#Killer Croc#Poison Ivy#Ra's Al Ghul#Black Mask#Two-Face#Riddler#Clayface III#Scarecrow#Cavalier#Penguin#Tweedledee#Deadshot#Mad Hatter#Killer Moth#Tweedledum#Dagger#Dr phosphorus
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The first issue of the 3 issue limited series The Untold Legend of the Batman was published with a cover date of July, 1980. The issue covered some of the key events of Batman's past: his father dressing as a Bat-Man at a costume party where he was abducted to perform medical aid to Lew Moxon, his parents murder by Joe Chill, Bruce Wayne fighting crime as Robin with the help of detective Harvey Harris, learning about law and justice at college from his professor Amos Rexford, the incident where a bat flew through the window inspiring him to become Batman, his early adventures with Dick Grayson as Robin, and the deaths of Joe Chill and Lew Moxon. ("In the Beginning", The Untold Legend of the Batman 1#, DC Comic, Event)
#nerds yearbook#real life event#comic book#dc#dc comics#limited series#july#1980#batman#untold legend of the batman#len wein#john byrne#batcave#thomas wayne#alfred pennyworth#harvey harris#james gordon#leslie thompkins#martha wayne#robin#joe chill#lew moxon#calendar man#catwoman#clayface#clayface II#clayface III#crazy quilt#dr phosphorus#doctor phosphorus
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do u know where this is from it haunts my dreams
[ID: an up-close panel of Batman. He's visibly confused and has a question mark speech bubble before asking, “I'm pregnant?” END ID]
i do!! however im sorry to say your nightmares have all been for naught, since its a very popular edited panel :( the original is from batman annual #11:
(id in alt!)
i hope this doesn't discourage you from trying to get that man pregnant though, hes even in position for it in the last panel <33
#its so bad i recognized george freeman's art instantly but yuh <3 theres also a few reprint of this story if youre into that kinda thing#but i hope this provides sweet dreams lol i know this is a VERY popular edit#a lot of times people say its golden or silver aged dialogue but if youre a little familiar with that era#then its kinda easy to tell this is NOT the art or his design from those eras. which marrows it down to 70s-early 90s#(since post nightfall he had a darker suit). after that its easy to narrow it down even without knowing the artists style#(even if it would be kinda tedious lol)#all that to say i dont have a social life and am always happy to help find your mystery panels <33#(also! this is a good story! no pregnant batman unfortunately but theres kinda? cucking and bruces appearance is sweet! i hope you enjoy :)#c: batman annual | 11#crypt's panels#batman#clayface iii#preston payne
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Halloween prompts year 2 day 17
A supervillian had captured a supernatural creature in some kind of device, the entity in question looked like a white haired teen from what they could see of him in the glass sphere he was enclosed in.
The villian was monologing about how they would use the creatures sacred powers to resurrect some evil gods or whatever when the heros intervened knocking him away and accidentally started the machine.
The teen screamed as electricity flowed through his body. Tim ran to him searching for a way to turn off the machine when his hand touched the outside of the sphere.
Unbeknownst to the heros, the machine required a piece of whoever was dead to revive them, it could be hair, blood, bone or even...a memory
That was how Tim, as Robin (or Red Robin whoever you prefer) found himself holding not his mom or dad or anyone you might have expected.
No.
He was holding someone he never thought he'd see again. Someone who didn't even think she was real. Someone who was marveling at her new body made of flesh and blood
Annie.
#halloween prompts#prompts#danny phantom#danny fenton#tim drake#danny passes out after this and is taken into custody of the Justice League#annie is super confused but very happy to be alive#maybe she even has clayfaces powers?#Annie was a construct clayface constructed in BTAS and she broke free of him by getting amnesia#she died sacrificing herself to clayface and letting her absorb her to save robin tim#if word gets out about this every villian with a sick/dying/dead loved one is going to be after Danny#and maybe annie too for experiment purposes#tim is probably overprotective of annie regardless#if damian is in this then hes going to be a pain and maybe befriend annie much to Tims horror#fanfiction prompts#batman#red robin#robin#robin iii
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Still so n-nuts that basic facts about Clayface established in the series were forgotten in the transition to new adventures. Like there was only two episodes f-featuring him in the o-original BTAS and one of them cleanly stated he’s unaffected by e-electricity. But when he’s back he gets k-knocked out by electricity…wild…
#it’s interesting because the best way w-we can really put it is…#original comics Matt Hagen which was just sort of a robber with clay powers superseded the other parts that made show Matt his character#t-the point of show Matt is to have the comic Matt Hagen’s names and powers but the acting of Basil Karlo and tragedy of Clayface III and IV#which is why he was more focused on being cured in the original BTAS run#but you’ll see in new adventures h-he’s… robbing jewelry and cash registers? why? he likes money…? but that’s not his character…#I-it’s why Annie’s episode is a shame because Annie is a great character but she’s stuck with OOC Clayface#btas#Clayface#Matt Hagen#chirps#🎹Kadie💜
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Rating Post-Resurrection (but pre-nu52) Jason Todds
Hush(/Clayface/Jason Todd) - eh. Good instincts for drama. Good insults. You're fine, but it was easy to believe you were an imposter. Plot is ridiculous. (Personality 1) 7/10
Under the Hood/Family Reunion/Franchise/All They Do is Watch Us Kill - I mean ... yeah. You're what I think of when I think of Jason Todd. You define the character. Also, you ARE really funny with Black Mask. (Personality 2) 8/10
Life and Death (Titans Tower) - okay. YOU are not necessarily the problem here. The problem is that the author doesn't understand Tim or what happened in the comics he's referencing AT ALL, and puts the most nonsensical words into your mouth as a result. Also misunderstands the New Teen Titans. And you're drawn really ugly. Under all the retcons and nonsense there is SOME okay characterization, though! (Personality 3) 4/10
World War III - never plan on reading this.
Daedalus and Icarus (Summary of Jason's Return) - This is a recap, but it's a recap of things we haven't been shown. Recaps aren't stories, so it isn't GOOD, but it does have some puzzle pieces. (Personality 2) 3/10
Pay As You Go (Outsiders) - you try SO HARD! All you do this arc is try to help a superhero and get beaten up by Dick. Maybe a bit of standing around being awkward because you don't know how to break into the securest prison on the planet. You are being very fanon Jason this arc. (Personality 4) 5/10
Brothers in Blood (Nightwing) - you're ugly, you're mean, you're dumb, and you turn into a tentacle monster. An UGLY tentacle monster. I enjoy laughing at you! (Personality 5) 2/10
Seeing Red - this arc is SO FUN. You are unhinged, but I would have LIKED if this turned out to be who you are. You truly think that blowing up Mia's gym is HELPING!!! Delightful and silly and I like the talking ape. Go hang out with the Arrows more. (Personality 3) 8/10
Countdown - you remain my favorite post-resurrection version. Love you as an insecure, immature kid trying to impress your big brother's friend. Love how young you are. Love how emotionally fragile you are. Love all the pretending to be tough. This would have ALSO been a great version for other authours to run with! (Personality 4) 9/10
Search for a Hero - I HATE EVERY THOUGHT TIM HAS ABOUT YOU IN THIS ARC! Why does the authour think so little of you?? You are not dumb and brutish and I refuse to believe this slander. Your expressions when you see someone in your Red Robin costume, AND when Tim turns down your 'awesome' team up plan, both belong in an arc that respects you more. (Personality 3) 4/10
Robin Dies at Dawn - see, this is how people should write you interacting with Tim. I want him to take you on as a project, and everyone to recognize that this is both condescending and not healthy behaviour. I guess YOU don't actually do much, though. How is this the next issue? (Personality 3) 7/10
Battle for the Cowl - shouldn't there be editors? People to say, "this authour isn't very good and maybe these characters should act like themselves?" I want comics to be better. (Personality 4) 3/10
Revenge of the Red Hood/The Streets Run Red - I don't read Morrison, but I've seen a bunch of panels. Wrong sort of unhinged, in my opinion. I prefer you to be trying to help people, not win some sort of messed up contest with the Bats. (Personality 6) 5/10
Red Hood: The Lost Days - look, I'm not here for your thighs, your daddy issues, or your revenge fantasies. I am here for your truly unhinged attempts at bonding with others, and the sincere confusion you seem to have when they don't work. This is good, but not for me. There's not even any ridiculously large crates of kryptonite! (Personality 2) 7/10
#please argue with me about personalities!#which arcs can actually be the same character in YOUR opinion?#any arcs I missed?#red hood#jason todd#gecko's lists#gecko recs stuff#(only green arrow: seeing red. that's the only one I rec)#(countdown jason is good but reading countdown is so much work)
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i probably haven't read enough Golden Age Comics to make this (I've barely read any, really), but I just spent the whole weekend making this list of birthdates for Earth-Two DC heroes and villians. I could've been working on my Christmas List! But no! My brain just had to get fixated on this. So here it is. This thing I didn't need to make, but my brain wouldn't let me stop working on. So here's a long list of names and birthdays. Nobody asked for this, and it was hellish to make. But my brain still expects me to make three more of these! sigh...
Superman (Clark Kent/Kal-L): 1916
Lois Lane: 1917
Power Girl (Kara Zor-L/Karen Starr): 1916 (Birth Certificate says 1956)
George Taylor: 1887 Died: 1955 (Age at Death: 68)
Jimmy Olson: 1928
Perry White: 1914
Lana Lang: 1920
Steve Bard: 1916
John Kent: 1875 Died: 1938 (Age at Death: 65)
Mary Kent: 1876 Died: 1932 (Age at Death: 60)
Samuel Lane: 1887 Died: 1973 (Age at Death: 86)
Ella Lane: 1889 Died: 1979 (Age at Death: 90)
Lucille Lane: 1920
Susie Tompkins: 1939
Batman (Bruce Wayne): 1915 Died: 1979 (Age at Death: 64)
Catwoman (Selina Kyle): 1920 Died: 1977 (Age at Death: 57)
Robin (Dick Grayson): 1933
Huntress (Helena Wayne): 1957
Batwoman (Kathy Kane): 1922
Alfred Beagle: 1900 Died: 1989 (Age at Death: 89)
Karl Kyle (Catwoman's Brother): 1924
Harvey Kent: 1912
Gilda Kent: 1915
Thomas Wayne: 1883 Died: 1924 (Age at Death: 41)
Martha Wayne: 1884 Died: 1924 (Age at Death: 40)
Phillip Wayne: 1885 Died: 1939 (Age at Death: 56)
Commissioner James Gordon: 1900 Died: 1976 (Age at Death: 76)
Julie Madison: 1915
Linda Page: 1919
Barbara Gordon (James Gordon's Wife): 1900 Died: 1981 (Age at Death: 81)
Anthony Gordon: 1931
The Flash (Jay Garrick): 1918
Joan Garrick: 1920
Winky Moylan: 1916
Blinky Boylan: 1915
Noddy Toylan: 1914
Green Lantern (Alan Scott): 1913
Doiby Dickles: 1896
Irene Miller: 1914
Harlequin (Molly Mayne): 1923
Wonder Woman (Diana Prince/Diana of Themyscira): 1920
Steve Trevor: 1918
Etta Candy: 1927
Paula von Gunther: 1907
Gerta Von Gunther: 1935
Phillip Darnell: 1903
Hawkman (Carter Hall): 1917
Hawkgirl (Shiera Sanders-Hall): 1917
The Atom (Al Pratt): 1921
Mary James Pratt: 1920
Joe Morgan: 1904
The Spectre (Jim Corrigan): 1900
Clarice Winston: 1908
Percival Popp: 1918
The Sandman (Wesley Dodds): 1913
Dian Belmont: 1916
Sandy the Golden Boy (Sanderson Hawkins): 1928
Lawrence Belmont: 1888 Died: 1974 (Age at Death: 86)
Hourman (Rex Tyler): 1913
Wendi Harris: 1936
Jimmy Martin: 1931
Thorndyke Thompkins: 1930
Doctor Fate (Kent Nelson): 1908
Inza Cramer: 1916
Johnny Thunder: 1917
Daisy Darling: 1918
Peachy Pet: 1935
Red Tornado (Ma Hunkel): 1901
Scribbly Jibbet: 1930
Mortimer "Dinky" Jibbet: 1933
Huey Hunkel: 1930
Amelia "Sisty" Hunkel: 1934
Starman (Ted Knight): 1915
Doris Lee: 1917
Woodley Allen: 1893
Doctor Mid-Nite (Charles Mcnider): 1915
Myra Mason: 1918
Wildcat (Ted Grant): 1919
Joan Fortune: 1913
Hiram Skinner: 1921
Mr. Terrific (Terry Sloane): 1920
Wanda Wilson: 1921
Black Canary (Dinah Drake): 1926
Larry Lance: 1925
Star Spangled Kid (Sylvester Pemberton): 1927
Merry, Girl of 1,000 Gimmicks (Merry Pemberton): 1934
Stripesy (Pat Dugan): 1914
Giovanni Zatara: 1918
Sargon the Sorcerer: 1919
Rose Canton: 1924 Died: 1985 (Age at Death: 61)
Alexei Luthor: 1906
Ultra-Humanite: 1844
J. Wilbur Wolfingham: 1910
Colonel Future (Edmond Future): 1918
The Puzzler: 1901
The Prankster (Oswald Loomis): 1908
The Toyman (Winslow Schott): 1910
Metalo (George Grant): 1909
The Penguin (Oswald Cobblepot): 1907
Clayface (Basil Karlo): 1887
The Scarecrow (Jonathan Crane): 1904
Hugo Strange: 1889 Died: 1982 (Age at Death: 93)
The Cavalier (Mortimer Drake): 1915
The Wizard (William Zard): 1913
Brainwave (Henry King): 1910 Died: 1984 (Age at Death: 74)
The Gambler (Steven Sharpe III): 1910 Died: 1987 (Age at Death: 77)
The Thinker (Clifford DeVoe): 1905
Rag Doll (Peter Merkel): 1916 Died: 1986 (Age at Death: 70)
The Fiddler (Issac Bowin): 1915
Anaya Bowin: 1930
The Icicle (Joar Mahkent): 1913 Died: 1986 (Age at Death: 73)
Sportsmaster (Crusher Crock): 1921
Tigress (Paula Brooks): 1923
Silver Scarab (Hector Hall): 1958
Fury (Hippolyta "Lyta" Trevor): 1958
Nuklon (Albert Rothstein): 1960
Northwind (Norda Cantrell): 1958
The Lare (Olivia Corrigan): 1953
Brainwave Jr (Henry King, Jr): 1963
Harlequin II (Noel Loomis-Schott): 1965
Obsidian (Todd Rice): 1966
Jade (Jennifer Lynn-Haden): 1966
Wildcat II (Yolanda Montez): 1955
Hourman II (Rick Tyler): 1966
Starman II (Jack Knight): 1972
Doctor Mid-Nite II (Beth Chapel): 1959
Cyclone (Maxine Hunkel): 1964
The Warlock (Warren Zard): 1974
Hazard (Rebecca Sharpe): 1971
The Gambler II (Steven Sharpe V): 1975
The Fiddler II (Issac Bowin Jr): 1961
The Icicle II (Cameron Mahkent): 1959
Tigress II (Artemis Crock): 1958
Rag Doll II (Peter Merkel Jr): 1951
#justice society of america#jsa#justice society#infinity inc#dc#dc comics#dc universe#dcu#golden age dc#batman#golden age batman#superman#golden age superman#superman comics#power girl#the huntress#kara zor l#helena wayne#jsa comics#old comics#comic book#comic books#comic
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Joker 2 will (probably) also be bad
I've gone on record saying Joker (2019) was a badly-conceived film, with ideas that are, at best, inconsistent and muddled.
And now they're making another one. With Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn. Maybe it will be better this time?
...no, probably not. Let me break it down.
So, the entire design philosophy of Joker (2019) from writer/director Todd Phillips was, quote, "we're gonna sneak in a real movie in the guise of a comic book movie". That is, Phillips wanted to make Taxi Driver...but he's only a talented enough filmmaker to make The Hangover at best, and The Hangover Part III at worst, and so Warner Bros only trusted him with an IP that was guaranteed to succeed regardless of quality.
This sucks on two levels. If we judge Joker as a "real film"...it fails utterly, because it's using the visual language of the 1970s to whine about 21st century woes, and even then doesn't have anything to say. The "failed standup act goes viral" plot beat doesn't fit with the media landscape of the 1970s, while the clown rioters echo the "eat the rich, defund the police" sentiment that was brewing in 2019 and would explode with George Floyd's murder in 2020. These things are included because Phillips is the kind of jerk who complains about "woke culture" on Twitter. The only reason Phillips sets the film in the 1970s...is because he's cheating off Scorsese's homework.
But if we judge Joker as a comic book movie, it also sucks, because it completely fails to live up to what makes The Joker so fascinating. See, The Joker is a Batman villain; a standout antagonist against the rogues gallery. You cannot understand The Joker except as a literary foil, as a dark reflection of the Dark Knight. Batman is a solemn, incorruptible force for justice. The Joker is a manic, incorruptible force of destruction. While many of Batman's villains are sympathetic (e.g. Mr Freeze), and others are garden-variety thugs with powers (e.g. Clayface), The Joker is pure. He cannot be reasoned with or negotiated with, he has no agenda beyond causing mayhem, and he has no better nature to appeal to. That charisma, that certainty of purpose, is what makes the Joker such a fun villain. Phillips throws all of that in the garbage--Arthur Fleck is weak-willed, cowardly, and just needs a friend.
And now, in Folie a deux...he's getting one, in the form of Gaga's Harley Quinn.
Now, Harley Quinn is different from the Joker. Harley was introduced in Batman: the Animated Series, voiced by Arleen Sorkin, as a counterpart to Mark Hamill's Joker. Her origin story is that she was Dr. Harlene Quinzel, a psychiatrist at Arkham Asylum, who tried to fix The Joker...only to be pulled in by his madness, taking a new name, costume, and falling head-over-heels for "Mista J", her "puddin'".
This is interesting because while The Joker only really makes sense as a Batman antagonist, Harley only really makes sense in the context of the Joker. Harley's story is one of domestic abuse; she is The Joker's greatest victim, and yet his staunchest ally. She sometimes realizes this and tries to get away, but can't escape his manipulative gravity. This obsessive love, however, is not returned; The Joker's soulmate is Batman, the yin to his yang, his equal and opposite. Nowhere is this more clear than in the iconic Mad Love, where Harley almost kills Batman as a gift to her puddin', only for The Joker to furiously lash out in a "no one kills Batman but me" kind of way.
So while the Joker is fun because he's so unsympathetic, Harley is fun because she is sympathetic. The Joker is fully evil, but Harley is only evil because of her exposure to The Joker; without him in the picture, she's just a manic antihero.
And that's exactly what's happened to her character over time; fan and authorial desire to see Harley achieve independence and escape the cycle of abuse led directly to her more modern portrayals, such as Margot Robbie in Suicide Squad (2016), Birds of Prey, and The Suicide Squad (2021). But even then, she was introduced in Suicide Squad against Jared Leto's Joker, and the start of Birds of Prey is her mourning her breakup with him. Her animated series starts the same way, seeking autonomy and an independent self-identity.
Folie a deux...isn't going to be doing that. It can't. It doesn't work with Arthur Fleck. The whole point of Joker (2019) is that Arthur Fleck is a loser, he's a failed nobody, he is the dregs of society that everyone ignores. His sexual frustration and loneliness form the basis of a major (and idiotic) plot beat with Zazie Beetz. He is a million miles from the "charismaniac" of Hamill or Ledger--there is zero possibility that he could "infect" a brilliant psychiatrist.
To his credit, Phillips realizes this, and is taking a different angle. From the trailer, it looks like Gaga's Harley is going to be a fellow Arkham resident, and she's going to be the one who initiates flirtation with Arthur, in a sort of "love letter to a serial killer" kind of admiration. The trailer leans heavily on the refrain of "what the world needs now is love, sweet love", and overall seems to be framing itself as an honest-to-god romance. Instead of the Joker/Harley relationship being abuser/victim, it looks instead to be toxic enabling, where Harley encourages Arthur to embrace his worst, most destructive instincts.
And...that's probably going to be framed as a good thing. See, if Folie a deux is going to be a romance, then plot constraints demand that there needs to be an obstacle dividing the lovers and preventing their happy union. What obstacle could exist between Arthur and Harley? Why, the entire legal system, of course--we see in the teaser multiple shots of them going up courthouse steps. It's likely that the pair fall in love in Arkham, escape ("let's get out of here", Harley says), are recaptured, and then have to defend themselves in court. This might have a "happy ending" where they win and leave together, affirming that enabling a violent criminal is a good thing. Or it might have a "sad ending" where the court outcome separates them, affirming Arthur's nihilism and anger at a system he perceives as unjust only when it inconveniences him. Either way, Harley is going to be framed as good for Arthur, making him better while making him worse.
Could this be done well? Maybe. It's certainly possible. Canon is already so broken that it's no longer a limitation. A talented director might realize the moral complexity in the relationship between two violent, mentally unstable murderers. One could frame the entire thing as a tragedy, where "boy gets girl back again" is shown to be disastrous (as in The Graduate). Or, it could even be something of an inversion of the more canonical Joker/Harley romance; instead of Harley realizing that she's better off without Mista J, it might be Arthur realizing he is better off without Harley.
But it almost certainly won't be any of that. Because Phillips thinks that Arthur Fleck is relatable. He thinks he's a martyr, a victim of targeted injustice, a doomed hero refusing to bow to societal norms. But he isn't. Arthur Fleck is an entitled white boy who simultaneously sees his suffering as a systemic failing, while also refusing to see how the system harms others, and refusing to see how his own choices make things worse for everyone. Arthur Fleck is an embodiment of denied privilege, where cishet white men expect to be lavished with unearned success, and are butthurt when they don't get it.
And above all, the thing that media has always told men is that a manic pixie dream girl is going to find you and fall madly in love with you despite your obvious failings. That is the heterosexual male romantic fantasy; love without effort, acceptance without labor, companionship without obligation. Todd Phillips might play this straight. Or he might set this up for Arthur, only to deny it as an act of authorial cruelty. But the first film demonstrates that he lacks the self-awareness necessary to actually deconstruct it, to criticize the expectation itself.
So no. I don't think Folie a deux will be better than its prequel. Because for Todd Phillips to make a better movie, he'd have to be a better person. And he's not.
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Wait, I have another one! Clayface! (Dealers choice which one)
Oh you're going to put me on the spot, are you? Then it's Cassius Payne, who's my favourite Clayface.
Cassius if he's written right is a tiny tragedy writ large, because he's never been normal since the moment of his birth (he was born a Clayface, he inherited it from both parents), he's been exploited by STAR Labs scientists and the DEO, and half the time nobody remember's he's still a toddler (which governs SO MANY of his actions).
Also Abattoir, who is secretly one of my favourite one note-villains as far as 'has a solid persona arc in very little space' goes, kidnapped Cassius when he was a kid. Fun note!
My rec for him would be Batman #550, which is a Mud Pack-style story about the DEO being unethical (surprise surprise), contains Cassius actually acting like a toddler, and is the backdoor pilot for Chase. Also J.H. Williams III drew it.
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If DC Comics tasked you with creating a DC tarot deck, which character would you choose to portray on each major arcana?
Disclaimer: as I prefer to read Tarot de Marseille using the Franco-Italian meanings, my choices tend to reflect those, as opposed to the more common, Anglo-American, Waitean associations.
I. Le Bateleur – John Constantine
II. La Papesse – Death or Barbara Gordon
III. L’Impératrice – Poison Ivy
IV. L’Empereur – Lex Luthor
V. Le Pape – Alfred Pennyworth
VI. L’Amoureux – Tim Drake
VII. Le Chariot – Wonder Woman
VIII. La Justice – Two-Face
IX. L’Hermite – Batman
X. La Roue de Fortune – Sandman or Flash
XI. La Force – Beast Boy or Conner Kent
XII. Le Pendu – Bane
XIII. L’Arcane Sans Nom – Jason Todd
XIV. Tempérance – Nightwing
XV. Le Diable – Klarion The Witch Boy
XVI. La Maison Dieu – Arkham Asylum
XVII. L’Étoile – Zatanna
XVIII. La Lune – Clayface or Dr. Destiny
XIX. Le Soleil – Supermen (Clark & Jon)
XX. Le Jugement – The Lazarus Pit
XXI. Le Monde – Green Lanterns
XXII. Le Mat – Joker
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Earth-64 | Brief List of the Bat Cauldron
Important Note: The following post consists of a listing of the Bat Cauldron how they are on Earth-64, a fan-made alternate Earth of the DC universe personally made by me.
THE WAYNE FAMILY
Bruce Wayne - Batman I
Selina Kyle - Catwoman I
Talia al'Ghul - Demoness
Dick Grayson - Robin I, Nightingale
Jason Todd - Robin II, Red Hood II, Redkite
Duke Thomas - Signal, Lark
Tim Drake - Stray, Robin III, Golden Aix
Cassandra Brown-Wayne: Orphan, Batgirl II, Black Bat, Batman II
Stephanie Brown-Wayne: Spoiler, Robin IV, Batgirl III, Starling
Damian Wayne-Wilkes: Robin V, Vireo
Collin Wilkes: Abuse, Sparrowhawk
Helena Sage-Wayne: Huntress
Victor 'Vic' Sage: Question II
Terry Wayne: Batmite
Athanasia Wayne: Hellhound
THE KANE FAMILY
Kate Kane - Batwoman I, Vampire Bat
Renee Montoya - Question I
Bette Kane - Goshawk
THE GORDON FAMILY
Jim Gordon - Commissioner Gordon
Barbara Gordon - Batgirl I, Oracle
Alysia Gordon - Honorary Batgirl
THE FOX FAMILY
Lucius Fox
Tanya Fox
Jace Fox - Flying Fox
Luke Fox - Honorary Batman, Batwing II
Tamara Fox - Lady Fox
Tiffany Fox - Batgirl IV (Retired)
THE EXTENDED BAT CAULDRON
Harleen Quinzel: Harley Quinn
Minhkhoa "Khoa" Khan: Ghost-Maker
David Zavimbe: Honorary Batman, Batwing I
Jean-Paul Valley: Honorary Batman, Azrael
Basil Karlo: Clayface (Retired)
Harper Row: Bluebird
Colin Row: Carrier, Oracle II
Mia Mizoguchi: Maps
Carrie Kelly: Robin VI, Oriole
Nell Little: Batgirl V
Claire Clover: Lady Gotham (Retired)
Hank Clover: Gotham (Deceased)
Onyx Adams: Onyx
THE NOTES
All characters listed have been canon characters in one way or another. Not all characters work primarily in Gotham, but have worked there at some point in time. This is to be updated as there are more characters to be added.
In the early years, the Bat Cauldron was fairly isolated from the other masks, which was one of the primary reasons Dick left Bruce. Despite starting the Titans, Dick was not told of the Nightwing and Flamebird story so when deciding a new identity Dick became Nightingale instead of Nightwing. Superman is still his favorite hero though.
The Robin and Batgirl mantles must be passed down from the previous Robin and Batgirl.
Due to the early death of the Joker, Duke Thomas' acquisition happened earlier than the comics. In the same vein, Jason's Red Hood era was a brief period in his life and he rejoins the Bat Cauldron as Redkite.
Due to Jason's death, Bruce refused to give Tim the mantle of Robin so Catwoman took him in as her first sidekick where he served as Stray. When Jason returned, he passed the Robin mantle to Tim who accepted it. Tim's time as Stray made him a bit more flirty than his canon counterpart, and he realized he was bi sooner.
Along with the tech Robin, Tim is known as the water Robin due to being unafraid to get into the toxic Gotham water. This contributed to his alias of Golden Aix, and Arthur Curry often jokes that Bruce stole an Atlantean.
Stephanie was active before Cassandra, but Cassandra was Batgirl before Stephanie. Cass passed her the Batgirl title because Cass was heading on a mission in Tokyo and it would be weird if Batgirl showed up there. That period of time made them realize their feelings for each other, and the first thing Cass did when she returned was confess her feelings.
In this universe, Bette Kane is the adopted daughter of Kate Kane and Renee Montoya.
Colin Row worked as a messenger for Oracle, and later becomes the second Oracle.
Carrie Kelly and Tiffany Fox were the first Robin and Batgirl under Cassandra's time as Batman. Tiffany would later give the mantle to Nell Little.
Terry is not the second Batman because I don't personally like the Batmam Beyond storyline, but he is still a hero under his big sister Cass!
I have some characters marked as Honorary Batmans because if I try to make some sense of that timeline my head will explode.
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Who's Who In The DC Universe #1: Arkham Asylum, Atari Force, Atlantis
Arkham Asylum by Steve Bissette & John Totleben
Located on a wooded acre of land just north of Gotham City
Founded in 1921 by Dr. Amadeus Arkham, a vigorous social reformer, on land left to him by his mother
Amadeus’s mother suffered from mental illness
The asylum was the first facility of its kind in Gotham
Amadeus transformed his ancestral home into an asylum and staffed it with some of the most prominent psychologists and physicians of the time.
One of Arkham’s first inmates was “Mad Dog” Martin Hawkins, who had been found not guilty by reason of insanity in the murders of Arkham’s wife and infant daughters.
Dr. Arkham treated Hawkins with “great concern and compassion”, right up to Hawkin’s accidental electrocution two months after his incarceration.
In 1929, 6 days after the legendary stock crash, Dr. Arkham went berserk and was arrested when he attempted to electrocute his stockbroker. Amadeus wasn’t happy over losing his entire fortune in the crash.
Amadeus was committed to Arkham Asylum. He spent the remainder of his days carving indecipherable inscriptions on the floor of his cell while singing “The Battle Hymn of the Republic”.
Amadeus passed away in his sleep on April 7, 1963.
The Asylum wen through a series of state-appointed administrators after Amadeus’s incarceration.
The most recent was Dr. Byron Blaine, who has held the position since his predecessor was taken captive and replaced by Professor Achilles Milo, one of the Asylum’s inmates.
Other notable inmates include Two-Face, the Floronic Man, the Mad Hatter, Clayface III, Maxie Zeus, and the Joker.
Arkham Asylum debuted in the Batman comics in 1974 but has quickly become a foundational aspect of the Batman mythos. Hugo Strange, Harley Quinn, and Scarecrow all worked at Arkham Asylum in the various continuities. Numerous important storylines have taken place at Arkham, including the kickoff of Knightfall when Bane released the inmates to exhaust Batman.
I haven’t read Grant Morrison’s Arkham Asylum since it came out in 1989 but I think I remember the writer referencing Amadeus’s backstory. I seem to remember Mad Dog’s electrocution wasn’t so accidental after all. The Who’s Who entry (which pre-dates Morrison’s story by 4/5 years hints about the true nature of Mad Dog’s death when Amadeus attempts to electrocute his stockbroker). I don’t blame Amadeus, no one should be tasked to care for his wife and infant daughter’s murderer.
Amadeus played a background role in the Batman Arkham games when Quincy Sharpe, the Asylum’s current administrator, becomes convinced he is the reincarnation of Amadeus Arkham.
Arkham Asylum appears in all the various Bat Family titles and crossover media (cartoons, movies, video games). Notable storylines include the Arkham Asylum GN by Grant Morrison and Arkham Asylum: Living Hell. “Living Hell” isn’t as famous as Morrison’s graphic novel, but I enjoyed it. It follows a businessman who pleads insanity to avoid prison. The judge is fed up and sentences the man to Arkham. It doesn’t end well for him.
The Asylum has appeared in various non-Bat titles, including the Justice League, Justice Society, and Sandman. Arkham made appearances in the Justice League cartoon and a Suicide Squad animated movie.
Atari Force by Eduardo Barreto
Earth has been ravaged by war and ecological imbalance. The Atari Technology and Research Institute sent a specially trained crew throughout the multiverse to find a new world for humanity.
The crew found a new world after months of trials and tribulations. It was dubbed New Earth.
Twenty-five years later, the Dark Destroyer returned to menace New Earth.
Martin Chapman, one of the original founders of New Earth, founded the Atari Force to battle the Dark Destroyer.
The team is composed of Martin, his son, and members of various alien recipes.
DC issued digests in the 1980s (the size of the Archie digests you find in the grocery stores). One series of digests was devoted to the Legion of Super-Heroes (it’s how I read most of the Silver Age appearances of the Legion). Another had random reprints of various DC comics. This digest contained the only Atari Force story I have read. If you’re curious, the other stories in the digest were a Blue Devil story, the “Who Is Donna Troy” New Titans story, and the “Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner” Legion story (the one where Gim introduces Yera to his parents). I don’t recall much of the Atari Force story.
Atari Force was licensed from the actual Atari company which explains why the group isn’t seen/reference anymore.
Atlantis by Marshall Rogers
Located in the North Atlantic Ocean, the continent of Atlantis was one of the first places on Earth where civilization flourished. It was the most sophisticated civilization in the world, establishing twelve scattered settlement cities on other continents.
Magic was the dominant source of power in early Atlantis but science and technology gradually rose to prominence, later Atlantis combined magic with technology
Atlantis launched an exploratory spacecraft in 45,500 BC
King Thorval sent six expeditions in the 9600 BC to find alternate places for Atlanteans to live in the face of an impending natural catastrophe
One of the expeditions founded a colony in a secluded area between the earth’s surface and the hidden land known as Skartaris
Atlantis sank beneath the sea with only two of its cities surviving (Tritonis and Poseidonis)
The Atlanteans constructed protective domes around the cities and developed serums to allow underwater breathing
The citizens of Tritonis had an unexpected reaction to the serum and transformed into merfolk.
The Atlanteans developed telepathic abilities to communicate underwater. (But only Aquaman can command the creatures of the sea).
Tritonis remains secluded but Poseidonis has had more public exposure, including a major exposition held for the air-breathing people.
Remnants of the original Atlantean colony lost beneath the earth have been active again recently, attempting a takeover of Skartaris, which was thwarted by Travis Morgan (the Warlord).
Aquaman, Aquagirl, Aqualad, Arion, and Atlantis itself. Aquaman’s corner of the DC universe was features heavily in the first issue of “Who’s Who In The DC Universe”.
Atlantis has a role in all Aquaman series and other media projects. Power Girl was connected to Atlantis in a unnecessary post-Crisis retcon. Don’t worry, the retcon was also retconned and Power Girl is once again a Kryptonian. Atlantis and its citizens were featured in Infinite Crisis when an unstable Spectre unleashed his wrath on the area (he was on a rampage against magic users). DC’s Atlantis has made appearances in the Justice League cartoon, Young Justice cartoon and comic, and an animated Justice League movie.
#dc comics#dcu#batman#arkham asylum#amadeus arkham#mad dog martin hawkins#atari force#atari#atlantis#aquaman#skartaris#who's who in the dc universe
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Breaking Down The Knightfall Saga: Knightquest - The Crusade Part 11
AzBat runs into a couple more back members of Batman’s Rogue’s Gallery – Lady Clayface and Clayface III. Continue reading Untitled
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Roleplay history !
The rules are simple ! Post up to ten characters you’d like to roleplay as, have role-played as, and might bring back. Then tag people to do the same. Aside from that, please repost instead of reblogging !
Currently playing :
Jonathan Crane [Scarecrow] | Tumblr @catspittle
Basil Karlo [Clayface 1] | Tumblr, @oncegreatness
Chato Santana [El Diablo III] | Though I haven't written for him in a long time.
Hugo Strange
Gaius Grieves [Thinker]
Cassandra Cain [Batgirl/Black Bat]
Charles Brown [Kite-Man]
Victor Fries [Mr. Freeze]
Want to play :
Peter Merkel Jr. [Ragdoll]
I have considered playing Deadshot but ultimately I feel like I'd fuck up
Abigail O'Shay [Madame Crow]
Clyde Phillips [Punch]
Dulce [no canon name given]
tbh I'm down to write basically any character with enough research but those are some standouts.
Have played :
Rocket Raccoon | Marvel Comics; MCU based mostly. Discord.
Nathan Summers [Cable] | Marvel Comics.
Wade Wilson [Deadpool] | Marvel Comics. LARPing mostly.
Victor Stone [Cyborg] | DC Comics
notably, half of Batman's rogues gallery in 1 server.
various OCs other than that, didn't get into playing canons until objectively recently.
Will / would like to play again :
Matt Hagen [Clayface II]
Amanda Waller
Tagged by: Honestly I wasn't even paying attention I just went OOHHHHH NOTIFICATION
Tagging: @bigbadkillercroc , @king-crane ,whoever else really IDK it's 3 AM why am I still awake.
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Robin and some of his admirers - by Greg Woronchak
#Dick Grayson#Robin#Greg Woronchak#Boy Hostage#Yay! Deathtraps!#Mr Freeze#Crazy Quilt#Clayface III#Killer Croc#Joker#Two-Face#Gentleman Ghost#Catman#Deadshot
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Villains in love
BATMAN ANNUAL #11 JUNE 1987 BY ALAN MOORE, MAX ALLAN COLLINS, GEORGE FREEMAN, NORM BREYFOGLE, LOVERN KINDZIERSKI, ADRIENNE ROY, ED HANNIGAN AND JOHN BYRNE
Two love stories. The first one about Clayface III and his relationship with “Helena”. The second one about the Penguin going reformed thanks to a new chapter in his love life.
SCORE: 10
So I read this story very early in my life, and when I did, it took me a while to understand that Helena wasn’t human. I was a kid.
Alan Moore’s story of Clayface III and Helena is just amazing. We often justify Batman villains as “psychos”, but writers rarely show us why. Here we get the narration from Clayface III point of view, even though we get to see the real facts.
The Penguin story is a bit more simple, but it does have a redeeming approach to the Penguin. Sadly, Dovina is never shown again, so that love was apparently short-lived.
In the art, Freeman has a very interesting style. I do not know how, as a kid, I couldn’t figure out it was always a mannequin, but it does seem clear to me now. I actually think that the coloring works much better in this story than the art. This is a story that requires more colors than the second story. It needs more tones, because we are always seeing the same colors, in the darkness of a mall, so you need those tones.
For the second story, we get Norm Breyfogle, and I always enjoyed his art, he is one of my favorites. Here, he is not in full style though. His Batman doesn’t always look like “his Batman”, so I assume this was one of the earliest jobs at doing Batman he got.
Spoilers after the break...
The idea that Batman arranges the mannequin to be with him at Arkham... and then his love to completely go away, that’s genius. And ending it with “she can’t live forever”. It works very well. Not too different from an actual marriage, perhaps?
I always felt bad for the Penguin in this story. In the end, he just went back to prison, for trying to give jobs to other ex-cons. He was well intentioned.
#john byrne#ed hannigan#dc comics#comics#review#batman#annual#clayface iii#clayface#the penguin#penguin#robin#jason todd#1987#modern age
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