#but more out of my own selfish reasons than actual hate for his arc
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haveihitanerve · 1 month ago
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Steve doesn't go back in time and stay there with Peggy, but he does retire the shield. He is satisfied with the rumors that he lives on the moon, and moves to a farm house out in the country. Pepper invites him over every day for dinner, and he takes on the role Tony would have had with Morgan. Not her father, never her father, but hes there. A stable father-figure, a male in her life to show her what a real man is like. He helps Pepper cook and washes the dishes and sometimes they dance together, not romantically, but just because Steve likes dancing and Pepper misses her husband. He takes Morgan out when Pepper is feeling too depressed and doesn't want her daughter to see, and drops her off at school and picks her up every day. He and Pepper have mandatory therapy sessions with each other every Saturday and eat ice cream and watch happy or sad or funny movies on Sunday. He trains with Peter and helps him with his homework, and laughs when Bucky comes over for lunch, telling exuberating tales of how Sam is coming along with the shield. He grows old in the company of his friends and allies, and he and Rhodey meet for pool and drinks, the way they used to with Tony, and reminisce. He and Bruce and Clint and Thor still go on missions together occasionally, but Steve still leaves the shield with Sam, choosing instead a different, nanotechnology, advanced by Shuri type suit. Peter is allowed to be a kid and not have to deal with the weight of the Iron Man legacy over his head. Director Fury gets added to group chats and comes to friday brunch and Quinton Beck gets kicked to next week. Steve growing old with the team he helped build and helps to inspire and build the team his best friends died for, helps craft a world in their image. Give me that Steve Rogers marvel. pls
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maoam · 1 year ago
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Naruto has a good heart
So many people misunderstand Naruto's character. Let's look at some of the absurd claims;
"Naruto only wanted his face on the mountain, he wants people to worship him, his goal is selfish"
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When Naruto made this goal for himself, he was younger than 12. As an orphan child who is ostracized from society, this was his way of trying to become liked, so he could become part of the society. Aside from hermits, most humans desire connections with other humans. It's normal. And Naruto being a child sees that the Hokage is someone who people approve, and becoming Hokage would be a sure way to have such connections. It makes sense for a child to rationalize it this way. People completely forget the context, many other characters also desired connections such as Haku, Kimimaro, Gaara etc. It's a common theme in the manga. Kishimoto wrote neglected children very believably. So to write this off as "Naruto just wants people to worship him like he's God, what a narcissist" is dishonest and poor reading comprehension.
Not to mention, Naruto's mentality changed pretty fast, and he wanted to become someone who saves and protects people, someone people could rely on.
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Already in the first arc he had that desire to help others. He's always been a good boy. Eventhough Naruto was pissed off at Inari's comments and wanted to tell him off, he realized there's a deeper reason for Inari's cynicism. So he decided to help him instead of starting a fight.
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In Part 2, Naruto's responsibilities grow massively, especially after the Pain arc. In the end, everyone ends up putting all the burdens on Naruto's shoulders. Everyone expects Naruto to protect them and basically do all the impossible things.
His goal to become a Hokage started out as a need for acknowledgement, yes. But his transformed drive to become Hokage and bear all the responsibility in Part 2 came from his need to fulfill everyone's expectations for him and also him thinking he owes to the people who support him.
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It's not that Naruto never had any resentment for how everyone treated him. He just repressed it.
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And in the end, he put it all aside, in order to become the hero for everyone. No I don't think it's entirely healthy. But it's not selfish that's for sure.
"Naruto is shallow, selfish etc."
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Naruto was always grateful for the connections he was able to make and treasured them heavily. His relationship with Gaara gives even more insight to that.
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Naruto acknowledges Gaara was alone for longer than him. How can you call him a narcissist? Naruto is shown to be upset at the fact Gaara was viewed as an undesirable and a tool.
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He always had genuine empathy and care for others. To claim otherwise is just bizarre. He blames himself too a lot of times. Then there's his relationship with Sasuke.
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Unlike certain Naruto stans who hate Sasuke, Naruto himself has enough empathy and humility to consider he could have ended up the same as Sasuke, if some things would have been slightly different.
A lot of people also complain about the way Naruto behaved in Vote1, eventhough that was Kishimoto's plan, Naruto was supposed to not understand Sasuke fully at that point (and still his behavior was understandable, considering Orochimaru is a predator who wanted to wear Sasuke's skin). Naruto himself acknowledges he didn't. Naruto always tried to use his own experiences to understand the world and others better.
"Naruto just projects onto people because he wants to talk about himself"
Actually no. Pain and Obito both projected onto him first, and told him they were similar, which is also why Obito wanted to convince Naruto to join him. Naruto responding to them and trying to show he understands them to a degree is not a crime. It's basic empathy. I don't think I will even bother explaining it further than this.
My point is, Naruto is a good boy/man. There's no need to twist him into a narcissistic sociopath just because you don't personally like him.
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mari-lair · 7 days ago
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Shit I might want to read this, it looks cute. What is this?
I am assuming you're talking about the manga with a cute art style, the one with this trio, which I love dearly
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If so, I am very sorry Anon, my blog is misleading propaganda. None of these three are the protagonists, or even sidekicks to the protagonist, they are either stuck as a gag character for half of the manga, pushed to the side, given an antagonistic role/a role that have a diferent belief from the mcs, or all of the above simultaneously.
This is not their story.
They do eventually get focus, there is a reason I have grown attached to their arcs more than the protagonist's stories, but I am aware most people do not vibe with them. Many actually hate these three. They aren't the heart of this story. If you read this manga, rest assured it won't be for them.
So let me try to give you a more accurate idea of what the story is about without any major spoilers/details.
The manga is called "Toilet Bond Hanako-kun" which is a strange mainstream translation considering "suicide boy Hanako-kun" is the more accurate one. Very different vibes between those two translations, right? That's how the manga feels too, it is a mix of strange and goofy and 'oh, shit got dark'.
The story takes place in a fantasy world where supernaturals and ghosts exist and the trio in the spotlight are these three goofballs!
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The red eyed girl is our main protagonist, Yashiro Nene, she is in love with the idea of love, a true hopeless romantic!
She attracts trouble and have a wild imagination, easily getting stuck inside her own fantasies as a form to both find strength and avoid tragedies. She is an insecure but very kind soul with a lot of hope in her heart, but she is not that smart. While she does have her moments, if you dig strategy stories and logical characters this story isn't for you, it's more about whimsy and vibes.
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The boy with the cap is the main lead and our titular boy "Hanako." He is a ghost, more specifically a supernatural, which are ghost whose soul got corrupted for staying in our world instead of moving on once they died. He is also the main love interest. A mischievous morally grey spirit with no self-love, no hope, and a lovely mix of being apathetic and caring too much. He is dangerous, selfish, awkward, and possessive and he hates it.
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The blond one is Minamoto Kou, an exorcist who never exorcised anything, he is a kind and insecure guy, not very smart logic-wise but his emotional intelligence is surprisingly good (bad habits aside). He is selfless to the point of concern, and starts out determined to be Hanako's eternal enemy but they become besties by accident. He is desperate to help, very determined, very impulsive, very easy to trust. Horrible at being an exorcist.
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The friendship between these three is very sweet. You feel like it will be a generic love triangle on their intro but no, they all care about each other. Romance may be a big thing in this manga but this trio are besties.
The humor can be hit or miss, sometimes it's so silly or dry that I love it, but sometimes it's passes my bar and becomes overly exaggerated. Some of the gags just don't land (at least to me), and if you think about the story too much, is not hard to find inconsistencies, but the main sell of this manga is character comflict, which is usually real good, and the supernaturals elements/stories which are the main events of the manga. All the supernatural stories are amazing.
I don't want to spoil the powers and rumors and tragedies but here are some 'vibes' of the supernatural elements.
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It is a rollercoaster of cool ideas and vibes and creative ways to explore the wishes and fears of the characters.
A lot changes through the story, this trio won't be the main dynamic forever but it is the heart at the start, and the supernatural stuff is strong during the entire manga! So if the pros sound better than the cons, go check it out!
You can read it: here
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mla0 · 6 months ago
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i think with me, sometimes the reasons why some people hate a character are why i love them in the first place. i love character arcs and just characters with heavy flaws in general, including characters who genuinely do heinous things while still trying to do their best and having good* intentions. i just find that so compelling and realistic. i think vinny and shaun are both in that category for me, but it certainly doesn't only apply to them; i just think their personalities and plotlines were the most interesting for me.
i liked the plot twist with vinny. loved it, actually. made me like vinny as a character way more than i did when i thought he was just some.... well, everyman. it made me see everymanhybrid so much differently than before, it recontexualized huge moments that happened before that i initially didn't even care about, because we only just learned that those were actually huge character moments and we just didn't know it yet. it added a whole new, flawed layer to the series that i adore. vinny seemed to be such an average, good-guy character who sometimes did stupid shit. then you find out that much of it wasn't accidental at all, but instead a desperate attempt to save himself and whoever else he was capable of saving, at the cost of others, and his own dignity. the lengths he went were extreme and unjustifiable to many, but that's what i liked. it showed that vinny is a human, for better and for worse. what lengths would you go to in order to survive?
i like that shaun can be a huge dick sometimes- she can be intentionally blind to the bigger situation, in denial to protect herself from something terrifying even though it hurt her family, and you can see her struggle with that. doing something like that hurts and feels terrible, but is still something she chose because she was afraid. she sided with a close friend over her family because of the comfort of familiarity, of what "makes sense." it's coping with something that is fundamentally terrifying to come to terms with. it's fucked up in the viewers eyes, but to someone in that situation you can understand why it happened. you can hate it, but still see yourself in it. then you also see moments of kindness, including between the two siblings, and you get a more full picture of her as a whole. she's chalk full of conflicting messages and i adore that. she cut off michael in one of the last few videos, but then refused to give up his location even when facing death. she gets angry, she fucks up, but she's still unwilling to doom those she seemed to hate even when it could've saved her life, even when being lied to about all that happened. getting the mix of her flaws and virtues (along with the same for the other characters) was probably my favorite part of this series.
anyways, you see multiple facets of their characters, some loveable and some hateable, but even when they do horrible things, it only makes me find them more interesting. it's not quite like a villain in how they're "evil" or have bad intentions despite sometimes being complex themselves (HABIT, for example), because they're regular people, but you watch them fuck up over and over again while still understanding where they're coming from, and recognizing that many would fall into the same trap, because nobody is without their vices, their selfishness, and their blind-spots. so many people, including ones who think they'd be better in that situation, wouldn't be if put to the test. they'd fuck up, they'd do awful things either to save themselves or for their perception of the greater good, and i love that. i like to see how people can break down and degrade in such horrible situations, while their humanity and ultimate "goodness" still exists at the same time, creating a conflict between how they're still a good person at heart but willing to do bad things if they feel it's justified. it gives a glimpse into your average person's breaking point and general morality, which is rarely strictly good or justifiable, nor purely evil or irredeemable.
also, it opens the doors for me to write compelling redemption arcs, which i've also always loved. i love seeing bad people get better, and good people get worse. like i said before, what would you be willing to do to keep yourself alive?
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stitcherofchaos · 1 year ago
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I just realize something that made my blood boil.
You know how a lot of people in the fandom hate how Maglor had mercy on Elrond and Elrond and raised them as his own?
And how they try to twist and pervert that relationship into something abusive, selfish, and/or manipulative?
What if it was Maedhros?
And why do I feel like if it was him, everyone would be at his defense and write fan fictions, draw fanart, and love this family dynamic more than when it was Maglor?
Why does Maglor seem to have the most issues in the Silmarillion fandom, more than Maedhros?
Why do many people try to make Maglor into an even worse person than Maedhros despite what- albeit little- canon lore said about him?
Lastly, why did Tolkien make so many changes and switch so many things about those two in order make their characters consistent? Not to mention actually giving them character arcs…
You know, I’m staring to think that if Maedhros had found Elured and Elur��n- and quite possibly raised them- the whole fandoms would’ve equally supported that dynamic.
I’m also guessing by the reason the fandom seems to like and defend Maedhros so much is because he is the ‘hot ginger’ out of the two brothers.
After all, you can project whatever you want out of a ‘blank page’, but you can’t touch the so-called ‘masterpiece’.
I’m not attacking anyone, I don’t want to attack anyone, heck maybe I’m wrong and all of Tolkien’s words are misleading from his true vision. I’m attempting to defend and respect the material that he worked so hard on, and sadly never finished.
Oh and just to be PERFECTLY clear, Maglor is not a good person, neither is Maedhros!
I just want the facts to be made clear. Maglor is a son of Feanor, a fierce killer, who committed 3 kinslayings! That is not the topic I’m discussing.
This is about the guilt, sorrow, and compassion he expressed for two orphaned boys at the end of the last kinsalying.
“For Maglor took pity upon Elrond and Elrond, and he cherished them, as little might be thought, but Maglor’s heart was sick and weary with the burden of the dreadful oath.”
- J R.R. Tolkien
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gx-gameon · 8 months ago
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I’m in season 5 of Yugioh Duel Monsters and I just finished the KC Grand Prix arc. The one with Zigfried. 
(And oh boy you can tell where all the animation budget went for this season. Because I remember the memory arch looking crisp but the Grand Prix and the Capsule monster arcs look so bad it’s laughable. I’m not mad the memory arch should get all the good animation. It’s just a shock how different it looks from the rest of the season)
But that’s besides the point.
Zigfried
I was thinking about my Yugi raise Jaden au while I watched it and it got me thinking about some little adventures I could have with the Gx cast.
Cause Zigfried hates Kaiba and while his little brother is willing to move on from the rivalry with Kaiba Corp I can’t see Zigfried moving on.
And here’s the thing everyone knows Yugi has a son. And everyone knows Kaiba and Yugi got hitched, making that kid Kaiba’s son to. But Yugi is very serious about Jaden’s privacy and having as normal a childhood as he can and Seto protects his loved ones fiercely so no one knows that son is Jaden right.
But Zigfried is a smart man. Kaiba has a son. Kaiba opens Duel Academy. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realize that Kaiba’s son will probably attend Duel Academy (its a popular guessing game with the kids trying to guess which of their classmates is the duel prince)
Zigfried still wants to ruin Kaiba Corp and what better way than going after Kaiba’s kid. But he knows Kaiba is protective of his kid. So he needs a way to lure the kid out.
So he hosts his own tournament and invites the duel academies to send their best (there is no way the son of Yugi Mouto and Seto Kaiba is not one of the best) he’s using this to narrow down his search options and then plans to hack into the kid’s files.
Kaiba finds out about this and he can’t stop the academy’s from accepting without looking like he’s taking opportunities from students for “selfish petty reasons” but he can ban Jaden from participating. Jaden’s bumbed but he understands when Seto and Yugi tell him about what Zigfried did the last time.
He loves dueling but he’d like to keep his secret a bit longer, so he ops out. (Now if this is season 4 which is where I would put it it’s easy for him to play off, but anything earlier then that and his friends think he’s dying)
Crowler and Sheppard are freaking out because Jaden is one of the best chances they have for Duel Academy to win and Kaiba has sent out memos to all of his schools talking about giving money to whichever school the winner attends (he doesn’t want Jaden dueling but one of ‘his students’ are winning this tournament or all these schools are disgraces)
Jaden still tags along to watch. He’s just a student cheering on his friends, in actuality he is spying for his Oto-san to see if he can see anything funny going on.
The DM crew is there, Zigfried wants them there when he exposes the duel prince to the world. But they are trying hard to not be around Jaden so they don’t give away his identity.
Since this is post season three you can have Jesse, Jim, and Axel there to represent their schools. Jaden probably hangs out with Jesse. All of his friends are dueling but Jesse knows who he is he can tell Jesse the real reason he’s not dueling in the tournament.
This can lead to some fun shenanigans as Zigfried tries to figure out which duelist is Yugi/Seto’s son while not having any clue Jaden exists since he’s not dueling. You can have him accuse Jesse or Chazz of being the duel prince which has Seto laughing in his face.
This is a rough idea right now. I have to think more on it when I’m not so tired but I think it has potential.
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seaweedbraens · 4 months ago
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11!!! vani you’re so close, only 80k words to go
what led you to choosing jason’s story? you obviously planned for him to die from the beginning but what was the process of figuring out how to make it happen and justifying it?
dont even joke abt 80k ill do it sgdjdkejehekken
re: jason - i knew i wanted to kill him because he dies in canon, and i actually dont hate that he dies in canon, i just hate that it was done in a series that wasnt his own. i actually quite like the whole idea of jason choosing to sacrifice himself over piper with her not even knowing shit about it - the books made it even more heartbreaking because theyre broken up, but i didnt want to do that, so i made him just hide it vehemently instead.
another reason he had to die was because in my fic, he is older than percy by about a month, and i really wanted to drive it home that all the children of the big three who were older than percy and died (jason, thalia, bianca) did so because they were IN THE WAY. theres no nice way to put it. percy was the child/hero of the prophecy, and them being alive just fucked shit up timeline-wise and confused everything. jason figures this out pretty quick, though. it's a slim comfort to him, knowing that even though he wont be around, percy will survive. that's why he entrusts him, out of everyone, to take care of piper.
my process in stretching this out just came from outlining this fic to hell and back. it made sense to have his nemesis be krios, since jason does kill him in canon. i knew he wouldnt make it to the final battle, and logically his death would serve has a good place to leave off ch4. that meant he had to leave by the end of ch3 and find out about his fate by ch1/2 (i chose 1). this would give him more than enough time to come up with a plan and come to terms with his fate.
i wanted to make jason's arc about the slow acceptance of death. i had an aunt who battled cancer for a long, long time, and i watched her cycle slowly through each worsening stage with a grim acceptance. in her last years, though, she told me she was choosing to live life and she was using her time to appreciate what she had. i visited her days before she passed and while she put on a brave face in front of me, she confessed to my mom that she was scared, and i wondered for a long time how long she spent hiding her pain from others just to save us from sharing hers.
jason's journey is largely inspired by my aunt. he knows death is looming over him, but he chooses to hide his own anxiety in favor of allowing his friends to be happy. the only time he shows his fear is as he dies in piper's arms, when he has nothing to lose by hiding it anymore.
piper was his greatest source of joy and he knows she has the capability to love again, but if she died, he knows he would never be able to. and yes! it's a selfish choice, as piper tells him, but one he believed was necessary.
through the course of wcwsthwas, jason learns he's lived a good life. he found his family and found love and true friendship. he wouldnt give them up for the world - so he chose to give himself up instead.
IDK IF I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION I JUST RAMBLED AYSGSICYSIVYAGIV SORRY BUT TY FOR ANOTHER GOOD ONE!!!
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sarahshot1st · 1 year ago
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"I hate you!" Raven screamed, hurling a bowling ball at the infuriating firebrand.
"Aw, you know you love me," Cinder cooed, easily dodging the projectile on jets of flame.
"I. Do. NOT!"
The Branwen chieftess punctuated the statement by slamming her fist into the rack, causing a half-dozen heavy ceramic balls to flick up into the air. A few quick strikes of her sword - drawn in the blink of an eye - left the spheres cloven in half, making them more susceptible to the gust of wind she summoned with her Maiden powers.
Cinder laughed, turning aside the attacks with bursts of superheated air. She danced around in the air, playful, inviting, and Raven rose to meet her.
"Next time I see your daughter, I'll tell her you're alive and well - just as much the selfish prick she remembers."
Raven felt an uncontrollable spike of anger flash through her. The power burning from her eyes flared to life as she growled:
"You stay away from Yang, you bitch."
"Oh but of course, that's how you raise a child, isn't it? By ignoring them?"
Raven screamed, an incoherent howl of rage. She dashed forward, swinging Omen in a brutal arc that could have easily decapitated three ordinary foes - but Cinder was no ordinary foe. Her own blade formed in her hands as she raised them to intercept the attack, and there was an explosion of sparks as the two weapons met.
What followed was a devastating series of blows, faster than the eye could track. Raven cycled through each of Omen's dust cartridges, attacking with Ice, Gravity, Lightning, and Hard-Light in an attempt to keep her opponent off-guard. Cinder, however, was familiar by now with the unique properties of Raven's blade, and adapted her own weapons each time to counter Raven's attacks. Eventually the chieftess settled on Fire, her blade burning with a wicked glow that matched Cinder's own. The exchange ended with their swords crossed, each struggling to overpower the other.
The pyromaniac grinned wickedly. "You can pretend you hate me all you want, Raven - but the portal you used to come here tells the truth. You can only bond them to people you have a strong emotional connection to - isn't that right?"
"I find hatred to be the strongest emotion of them all," Raven spat. "I keep one on Qrow so I can keep track of his bullshit."
"Well, if you ever decide to do something about that bothersome brother of yours, hit me up, will you? I've got a score to settle with that drunkard too."
Raven pulled back, huffing condescendingly. "You know what? Fine. That's actually the most reasonable suggestion you've made all night."
Cinder smirked. "We'll call it a date then."
Raven's face contorted into a snarl. "Fuck. YOU."
"Fuck me yourself."
"RAAAAAAAARRRGGHHHHHHHH-"
***
"So how'd the date go?" Vernal asked innocently.
Raven strolled out of the portal, not even sparing her lieutenant a second glance. "Shut it, Vernal."
"Yes ma'am." She didn't even try to hide her smile.
***
"You know, I don't know what you see in that woman," Watts said, voice laced with ridicule.
Cinder smiled. "I think she likes me."
"Oh please," the lanky man scoffed, not even bothering to turn from the ensemble of Scrolls he had laid out in front of him. "Every time the two of you meet, you inevitably end up holding swords to each other's throat. That is hardly what I'd call a romantic display of affection."
"And that just shows how little you know of romance. Swordplay has always been considered a suitable form of foreplay - or have you forgotten how our Mistress and her lover courted?"
Watts sniffed. "I'd hardly call theirs a model for a healthy relationship."
"And what would you know of relationships?" Cinder asked, waving a dismissive hand as she strolled through Evernight Castle. "You can't ever be bothered to become entangled with someone - always so busy with your toys. Face it, Watts." She paused, eyeing the back of Watts' always-impeccable suit. "You're a sigma."
"Just because I prioritize our Lady's goals over my own pursuits doesn't make me a 'sigma,' as you so crassly put it." The mustachioed man finally spun around in his chair to face Cinder directly. "My work is more important than any simple 'fling'."
"I see. Well then, I suppose there's no need to tell you I received an update from Tyrian this morning."
"What? Where is he? How is he doing? Is he all right?" The questions tumbled out of Watts' mouth faster than Cinder could answer, and he stood so quickly that his chair nearly toppled over.
Cinder smiled. "Deranged, psychotic, and nihilistic - in other words, Tyrian's doing just fine."
Cinder's tone was knowing, and Watts actually had the decency to blush. "Yes, well, that is very good. I worry about him when he's out on his own, given his penchant for self-inflicted pain. Do make sure he doesn't hurt himself."
"I'll be sure to tell him you asked after him."
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narutocharacterpolls · 1 year ago
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Now that the semi-finals polls ended, would you like to share your opinion on Kakashi's character? :)
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Pie splat deserved
I think it’s obvious that I take in the story broadly through a Sasuke lens and so the biggest reason I hate Kakashi is because of the way he treats Sasuke. There are other reason sprinkled throughout but that’s why I mainly dislike him.
However firstly, I think it’s obvious based on the group of characters I’ve made clear are some of my favourites, but I’m very anti-Konoha and don’t like bootlickers. So that immediately makes me criticize Kakashi and knocks some respect I could have for him off.
Anyways, Kakashi is incapable of treating team 7, most specifically Sasuke but it does affect all of them, normally because he cannot stop projecting team Minato onto his team, and that heavily affects the ways that he interacts and treats his team. He obviously projects himself onto Sasuke and as a result treats him really weirdly imo due to his own self loathing. He teaches Sasuke (a severely traumatized child) the chidori in an attempt to alleviate his own guilt from creating the jutsu that killed his best friend. I really don’t see much, if any, reason that Kakashi did this outside of his own selfishness and he most certainly didn’t think it through in the context of Sasuke. Again, because he views Sasuke as a reflection of himself rather than being his own unique person. He then goes on to literally tie Sasuke to a tree and scorn him for using the chidori (and may I add— while I’m aware Sasuke asked for the fight against Naruto, Sasuke only raised the chidori in defence when Naruto raised his rasengan) and seeking revenge against Itachi (y’know, the man that killed his entire clan, manipulated him, and tortured him by making him watch Itachi killing his family for 72 hours straight), then he LEFT HIM THERE TIED UP TO THE TREE. Not to mention he once again reflects himself onto Sasuke by saying he personally didn’t seek revenge and chose to move on. They are not in the same situation. At all. Sorry but that just rubs on me very unpleasantly.
A lot of my distaste was actually from him in Shippuuden though because his treatment and attitude towards Sasuke just gets worse. When Sakura tries to go to kill Sasuke and he shows up he decides that getting Sakura and getting out isn’t the right thing to do, but decides it’s his turn to try to kill him….. Ehem….. Alright….. Claims that Sasuke has turned to some kind of dark side but claims Obito to still be a hero of Konoha later on….. What a man. Still on the topic of Sakura trying to kill Sasuke, he criticizes Sasuke not once, but twice (later on during a war…. There are bigger things to focus on here) about how crazy and messed up it was for Sasuke to attack Sakura…. When he didn’t just attack her, he acted in self defence after she tried to kill him. But does Kakashi critique Sakura outside of saying she knows she wouldn’t be able to beat Sasuke? No, he doesn’t.
With Sakura on the mind, literally during war arc (once again, more important things to focus on here) he tells Sasuke that Sakura suffers from loving him and that no one needs a reason to love someone, just to hate someone. This is such disgusting behaviour to me as he once again is discarding Sasukes feelings and what Sasuke has stated he wants. Sasuke had literally just told Kakashi how he feels but Kakashi does not care about what Sasuke desires. But it doesn’t matter to Kakashi because to him Sasuke is a reflection of himself and since Kakashi doesn’t view it that way Sasuke isn’t allowed to. It’s a really gross sentiment.
The whole thing of how Kakashi treated Tobi revealing the truth of the Uchiha genocide and the way he reacted to it is also incredibly upsetting. And that revelation still didn’t change the way Kakashi viewed Sasuke at all. He still felt it was right to try to immediately kill Sasuke rather than… Approach him in a similar way to Naruto. But whatever, I don’t feel like getting much into this whole thing though.
There’s other random things, he’s hypocritical within his view of Sasuke’s revenge, I find him overrated as a “powerful fighter”, I personally find him having the sharingan uncomfortable and undeserved, he did not show care for Sakura in the way he did to the other two in classic, bootlicker Hokage, ect., but I’m not going to delve into anything else because I don’t feel like it lol.
All in all I don’t care about people that do like Kakashi, but it annoys be that he’s so often portrayed as someone that he isn’t. I know there’s some good to Kakashi, I find his back story rather interesting as well, he has handled some things well, but the negatives heavily outweigh the positives for me. To Kakashi lovers that decided to read this, you are valid and it’s okay to like him. I just don’t.
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itspkuwu · 10 months ago
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EEnE characters ranked (MY OPINION)
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Let’s cut right to the chase, because I really wanna put this out there.
Lee Kanker is in last place. She gets lower than F tier. Where Marie and May had moments where they seemed to genuinely care about each other, Lee just sits there, manipulates, and spreads cruelty. And as for the times where Marie and May were fighting/being mean etc? Well, I have a theory. Remember in Big Picture Show where we see that Lee has a third eye? You know who else has a third eye for no good reason…?
DEMONS. LEE IS AN ACTUAL DEMONIC MENACE WHO BRAINWASHES HER SISTERS JUST TO MAKE OTHERS FEEL MISERABLE. AND EVEN THEN SHE MISTREATS HER “MINIONS” TOO.
And remember when Nazz kissed Double D and Eddy on the cheek? Compare that to how they react to the Kanker’s kisses. How big those lips are… that specific shade of red… the way the Ed boys become horrified every single time…
THE LIP STICK IS CREATED BY LEE AND HAS DARK MAGIC INSIDE OF IT. THATS MY THEORY. IM STICKING TO IT. SCREW YOU LEE.
(that was a joke lolol)
Everybody in the “lol why” tier it’s just an object that isn’t Plank or I haven’t seen those episodes yet. So I can’t really give my thoughts yet.
Rolf’s animals get their own tier. They have an amazing caretaker :3
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH DORK DORK DORK DORK ITS KEVIN DJDJUDUFHDBRJRIRID.
He’s just a jerk lol.
Eddy’s brother (whose name is apparently Tarry??) is also a jerk. But he makes a pretty cool antagonist. And he just makes me like Eddy even more.
also i feel like he would be a tumblr sexy man
Mildred blinks at you :D
Plank is an immortal God who will one day rule the world. This is my canon.
I REALLY wish we could have seen more of what happened to Jonny post Big Picture Show. Him being “The Gourd” and having a villain arc just sounds super fun. Other than that he’s just a weird kid. I like him.
Don’t let Jimmy fool y’all. He’s a lil maniac. He probably gets it from Sarah. And it’s always a shocker to me given how much he acts so innocent and harmless. He’s a pretty neat anti hero.
I KNOW I SHOULD HATE SARAH. But I feel like there’s more to her than meets the eye. I honestly think her parents taught her the hate her big brother. If they weren’t around, she probably wouldn’t been to mean to him. Making me feel extremely sympathetic for both of them. And at least she looks after Jimmy, giving her redeeming qualities.
To be honest this show needs a character like Nazz. Everything has to be balanced out with someone who isn’t constantly out to get something, being mean, or acting like a weirdo. But yes, she does have her moments, which are rightfully deserved. Plus, I just really like her chill and hippie way of going about.
Marie Kanker and May Kanker are being ranked together. The potential they have to be redeemed is through the roof. They deserve so much better. If Lee wasn’t around to mess with their heads, I think they would be truly happy. Marie could spend her days jamming out and living on the edge, while May is cute and ditzy and a voice of reason at times. Plus both of their hairstyles are really eye candy for me.
The Ed boys are also being ranked together. What else can I say that hasn’t been said already? The way these three bounce off of each other is extremely enjoyable and definitely gets good laughs out of me. I know they have their moments where they aren’t so friendly, but you don’t always have to get along with someone for you to still love them. And when the gentle giant goof, the soft hearted nerd, and the selfish man with a heart of gold do get along, it’s sweeter than jawbreakers :)
AND NOW WE HAVE ARRIVED AT THE TRUE GOD. THE LIGHT IN DARK TIMES. THE DIAMOND WITHIN THE DIRT. THE ONLY BOY ON THE SHOW WITH A GOOD HAIRCUT.
ROLF. THE SON OF A SHEPHERD.
Rolf is hands down one of if not the best side character in animation history. He’s a goober for one thing. But a goober that’s gets us to take him seriously. You do not mess with this man. His pride is enough to break you leg. And yet, he still manages to be one of the nicest characters in the show. He’s so friendly and upbeat! And when he isn’t… his dark side is also a fun time.
And another thing, he’s a fish out of water. Which also allows the viewer to feel sympathetic for him. Like in Wish You Were Ed. Seeing Rolf cry is something you’d never think you’d see, but when you do, it makes you feel a somber emotion you had no idea existed. It’s amazing.
yeah, Rolf is amazing.
Also I asked my sister if she wanted to dance to That’s My Horse at her wedding and she said no. What a loser right?
So uh, that’s my list. Hope you enjoyed.
Go hug a chicken.
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blues-valentine · 2 months ago
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Just finished The Double and I haven’t been so immersed in a drama for so long.
Xue Fangfei, Xue Li, A’Li or Jiang Li was such a well written female protagonist because her motives were well written and I like how self aware she was about also working for her own selfish reasons like she never came across as an hypocrite. She was thirsty for revenge and I love that. She had her weaknesses but knew how to use them. She was very smart and it never felt out of place. She wasn’t working alone she had a lot of help from people with resources and I think that balance was well executed. Sometimes she didn’t even need to do the job because her own enemies would do it for her. She avenged both Jiang Li and herself in an iconic way. A Queen. She was excellent.
Xiao Heng was amazing and dramatic. We love a king with good wardrobe and epic entrances. I love how his dynamic with Li started as mostly them using each other to achieve their agendas until they were unable to play pretend with each other. They matched each other’s freaks. He thought he was using her first but she had him wrapped around her finger and she knew and took advantage of it pretty well. The tension, the flirting. I love how everything came down to Li’s consent and choices. Everything felt equal between them. I wish we could’ve gotten more romantic moments between them or actually seeing their wedding but I still like that they were immersed in their own sub plot.
The whole dynamic between Shen Yurong and Princess Wanning was so complex and one of the best written villains arc I’ve seen in a while. I like how Shen was a monster born out of her and he ended up being her downfall. But I also love how we get to slowly discover how he was an hypocrite with not morals. Wanning didn’t transform him into a monster. He was a coward with a self victim obsession, way too worried about his status. You low key finish the season sympathizing with Wanning and while nothing justifies her continuing the cycle of abuse and torture she was subjected to, you can’t help but like her at the end. She for sure had her ending coming and so did he but it was epic. The acting was brilliantly done by those two actors.
I loved the side kicks, Wen Ji (rip king), Lu Ji (rip king), Tong (rip queen), Jingrui, Jiuyue, Liu Xu, the Ye family, and even Shijie at times even thought him liking Jiang Li plot was annoying at times but in general he was a good guy with morals. I loved how she genuinely had good people on her side for the right reasons.
I hated Ji Shuran guts and I feel like I disliked her so much more than Wanning — nothing justifies killing your own sister to marry a man. Also, Yuanbai honey I’m sorry but you weren’t clueless about your own house, you just didn’t care enough but I did end up feeling really bad for him at the end, and kinda love how he takes on Li as his own daughter even at the end.
I feel like every character is well-written and you can see their motivations making sense. I understand where everyone comes from in their actions: good or bad. Like the character work was pretty solid for majority of the characters.
My only criticism is that I feel the end was rushed with the whole war plot that should’ve taken at least 2 episodes but it wasn't that bad and it didn’t ruin my experience with the whole series. I’ll give this drama a solid 9.5 out of 10. The female characters carried the show. The plot felt dragged out at times but knew how to keep you hooked. The performances and the visuals were so amazing. A must watch.
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onigiri-dorkk · 1 year ago
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It's very interesting that it's 2023 and there are still people who say that Mikasa hates Levi/vice versa.
They based that on the few scenes in the first few episodes where Mikasa is angry at Levi beating up Eren in the courthouse.
One, Levi has never once hated Mikasa. He had many opportunities to be angry with her as a captain, but he has never done that. He could have punished her easily just for how she looked at him in the courthouse -- much more for her insubordination multiple times when she was a young soldier.
But then what happens?
When Levi gets injured due to Mikasa not trusting him, acting on her own and not listening to his orders during battle, and him having to save her life, the Scouts lose their captain and best soldier in a crucial time. Mikasa feels the huge weight of that on her shoulders -- she is very aware of how important Levi is to the Scouts and she makes a conscious decision in Season 2 to step up to fill his shoes, to make up for her mistake while he recovers. She now realizes that her selfish actions to protect/be with Eren come with consequences, and it takes her out of her tunnel vision for Eren. She's at this point where she realizes she should have trusted Levi more.
In the Uprising Arc is where we really see Mikasa's perspective to Levi/leadership really change, which also reflects her inward growth. She's placed in Levi Squad. When ordered to fight and kill Kenny and team, all the Levi Squad doubt Levi's orders and think he's cruel. Who's the first one who steps up and listens to Levi's orders immediately? Mikasa. She's the first one to say yes, and she doesn't even question it -- she goes in for the kill.
When they gather and reflect about their first kills, Jean, Sasha, Connie and even Armin are still apprehensive about what they were ordered to do. It is Mikasa who tells them that they need to make the choice to trust Captain Levi, and that they should trust him.
In the same arc, Levi is shown many times as being able to calm Mikasa down and stop her from acting impulsively, and she listens more. In battle, she is his literal right-hand soldier and enters the battlefield/crystal caverns with him first and by his side. Mikasa is to Levi what Caven is to Kenny. They are each others' most trusted and skilled and respected soldiers -- Levi can rely on Mikasa to live and carry out everything, and vice versa.
At this point, clearly they don't hate each other. If anything, they've gotten so much closer with a quiet respect and bond, and this happened in the absence of Eren.
Ackerbrawl sounds violent but they both held back from hurting each other -- even though they both had reasons to fight for that serum, they didn't actually. And it's easy to conclude it's because even just as comrades, they are important to each other. She served some time behind bars with Eren, but it was only because that was a formality -- Levi had mentioned when they were up on the walls that he was fine. Again, he had reason to be pissed at her, but he never took that route. He's very gracious with Mikasa.
Fast forward. Marley shit. That's four more years of Mikasa being Levi's right-hand. Do y'all REALLY think she would still hate him at this point? Really? Mikasa is now a high-ranking military soldier and has now been Levi's right-hand for more than five years. Then Eren disappears and leaves them. Mikasa never stopped being Levi's right-hand -- she must've been devastated when Eren disappeared, and in my opinion the only ones who can keep her in check while she deals with her emotions are Levi and Armin. 100% they got even closer.
They battle in Liberio together; Levi entrusts Mikasa to battle with Eren, and when things go awry with the Jaw, Levi swoops in and saves everything -- he was keeping watch on things. When they get back on the airship, Levi kicks Eren and reprimands him again -- Mikasa doesn't do anything because she trusts Levi more than she feels the need to protect Eren at that moment.
I don't even have to describe the rest. They go into battle of heaven and earth -- Levi and Mikasa are the final ones left. They save each other. They support each other. They aide each other. And they successfully killed Eren and saved what was left of the world together. Mikasa goes from distrusting Levi and his leadership, to trusting him the most. Levi goes from distrusting Mikasa's decisions, to trusting her to make the right decisions on her own now for him to support.
AND they survived together. AND they're shown to reunite again after war.
Now how in the flying fuck do people, in 2023, still say that Levi and Mikasa hate each other? Because I am not seeing it. The only reason people say that is to try to discredit shippers but the reality is there is sooooo much depth there.
Those are some fucking good crumbs, I gotta say!!
Long live Rivamika, bitches
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infizero · 6 months ago
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pokespe reread: gold, silver & crystal chapter - closing thoughts! 🟡⚪💎
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finally i've reached the end of gold silver & crystal!! this arc has SO much packed into it and there's so much to talk about, its a little overwhelming;;
7 dexholders to keep track of, the switch over to yamamoto as artist, and of course lots of action and character development across what is still the longest arc in the whole series......
i had a blast rereading this chapter in particular and also have a lot i want to talk about, so let's go ahead and get into it!!
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first i wanna talk about our main man gold here since i love him so much and also he sucks <3
i specifically wanted to highlight how different he is from red. you might assume they're kinda similar at first, but gold is so much more selfish and rude than red ever was. and i mean that as a positive thing, it makes him more interesting imo. i like that gold often helps people out for more selfish reasons, and so when he runs into someone like silver for instance just saving someone because it's the right thing to do he's like "WTF MAN STOP STEALING GIRLS FROM ME" and silver is just like ?
it is sort of hard to tell how much of his obnoxious behavior is actually supposed to be read as bad? like him groping blue near the end, or him being misogynistic to crystal when they first meet. i think it is clear though that the narrative views him as flawed even if not specifically for those traits, so i think it's fine idk
also for me at least it doesn't make him feel unredeemable or anything lol. gold is literally 10 years old here and while it doesn't excuse his behavior, i think it's fairly easy to read it as him just being ur average 10 year old boy who's just acting like how he's seen around him. he'll grow out of it guys i swear
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speaking of how our environment shapes our worldviews, i love love LOVE how gold and silver are set up as being like total opposites in terms of how they grew up and how that influences their behavior (and you know what they say about opposites)
right away we learn that gold grew up in a loving home full of pokemon who he views as being like his family. everyone in town knows him and likes him, etc etc. this is perfect set-up for everything we learn later about silver and is part of why they clash so hard, i rlly rlly like it.
and speaking of gold and silver, i have so much i want to say (and HAVE said) about their dynamic and how it evolves over the course of the chapter
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i just love these two so much and the state of their relationship at the beginning compared to the end of the chapter is like. actually insane. im obsessed with how gold goes from following silver so he can catch him and bring him to justice, to not really caring about that anymore and just wanting to know wtf his deal is, to wanting to help him so bad that he literally refuses to let him fight on his own even when silver specifically tells him to
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^ "i don't care who he's going up against... i still don't see why he has to fight alone" THIS LINE IS CRAZYYYYYYYY
i love how they start out absolutely hating each other but keep having to work together for plot reasons, and progressively get friendlier and friendlier with each other. i'd honestly argue that even though it's a similar rivals to friends kind of arc, i'd say they're actually far closer/care about each other more by the end of GSC than red and green were at the end of RGB.
one of the standout examples of this, and i'd say one of my favorite scenes in the whole chapter, has to be when they run into the masked man together for the first time.
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pryce threatening GOLD in order to keep silver down, and that being the context in which he berates silver for having compassion is crazyyyyy like. ok. so we're saying he cares about gold and pryce is using that again him. ok cool cool (walks into the ocean)
AND THE WAY THAT GOLD STICKS UP FOR SILVER AND SAYS THAT PRYCE IS WRONG AND SILVER IS STRONG...... they actually make me crazy.
it really is crazy how much their relationship develops, like they're at each other's throats in the beginning and then by the end of the chapter silver's blindly rushing into danger to try and save him and asking if the reason gold is fighting is for him <- this is still so fucking gay WHY DID HE SAY THIS. UNPROMPTED. THIS LINE HAS HAUNTED ME FOR YEARS WHAT IS THE STRAIGHT EXPLANATION FOR THIS
also gold being the one to bail silver out at the end when he was the one who wanted to catch him at the beginning..... sooooo good i love that kind of circular shit (this chapter has a lot of that, which i'll get into more later)
also before i shut up about preciousmetal. i've gotta shout out this underrated moment where gold becomes furious at the idea of silver getting hurt
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^ "if you've hurt him-!" SINCE WHEN ARE WE SO PROTECTIVE OF HIM. I THOUGHT YOU HATED HIS ASS
ANYWAYS. i also love the thing of the starters all being friends who get separated from each other. i think that's really cute and adds further depth to the dynamic between gold silver and crystal
SPEAKING OF WHICH, i wanna talk about crystal's introduction.
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first off i wanna say that I FUCKING LOVE CRYSTAL OK. do not get me wrong i love her and i love seeing her in action here
i do think though that her introduction definitely makes the pacing feel weird. building up gold and silver and the rest of the dexholders' stories for 2 volumes only to abruptly switch to a new character's story....
one, it makes the story kinda feel less tight/cohesive overall (it feels kind of like a random side quest, even tho it does obviously have significance) and two, while i love crystal, they're not doing her any favors by interrupting the preexisting characters' stories to suddenly focus on her, a completely new character, for sooooo long.
i enjoy this part of the chapter but it definitely does feel a little out of place, and i think it'd feel even more weird for a first time reader since they wouldn't already be familiar with crystal
while talking about this part of the chapter though, i also want to say that this was probably the best time yamamoto could've replaced mato as artist if it had to be in the middle of a chapter. it comes as soon as we transition over to crystal for a while, meaning we don't see characters like gold and silver in the new style until we've already gotten used to it, which i think is a great little bit of luck(?)
also while talking about crystal ummmm her mom sucks i still hate her. she's irresponsible and somehow doesnt give crystal enough attention while also having the attention she does give her being unnecessarily rough. booooo
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speaking of people i hate, HELLO MASKED MAN. he sucks so fucking bad. he is SUCH an interesting and intimidating villain, i love his role in this chapter. his design is so cool, and him taking control of what remains of team rocket is such a great way to tie those two plot points together. he's just fun to hate, and they even managed to give him more depth as a character WITHOUT trying to actually redeem him. also HE FUCKING ACTUALLY DIES THANK GOD!!!!!!! norman take notes
i will say that once you meet pryce, it's kinda obvious he's the masked man LOL. i mean i cant speak from the perspective of someone who didnt already know that when reading but it seems kinda obvious to me lol. though when you see him and the masked man at 2 different places at once during the tournament, it does sort of reintroduce that doubt and kinda fakes you out that maybe they aren't the same person. so idk i think the mystery element is fine lol. esp since we dont meet pryce for a while anyway
and now let's talk about the poor kids who had to deal with this fucking guy. oh my god blue and silver make me want to throw up and die in this chapter its gonna be so hard for me to put this into actual words but i will try
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ok first to get it out of the way. i had NO MEMORY of them actually just flat out calling them siblings, this is the best fucking thing to ever happen to me. i won. anyways
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i dont even know where to start. it's so apparent how much they care about each other, and specifically how much blue looked out for him when they were younger. the fact that during the scene where will and karen are tormenting her with ho-oh and visions from her past and her first thought is just "at least i protected silver so he doesnt have to suffer this pain" makes me ILLLLLLL.
blue having to put her own feelings aside and focus on looking after silver from such a young age is an aspect of her character that makes me CRAZY, tying into her just having to grow up too fast in general. her absolute devastation when she realizes they got silver too is literally heartbreaking i deadass was close to full on crying that whole fucking scene
AND SILVER WANTING TO PROTECT HER FOR ONCE GODDDDDDDDDDD I NEED TO BE PUT IN THE PSYCH WARD. younger sibling naively trying to help older sibling but only making things worse literally slaughters me every time. i think doomed siblings are some of the most tragic relationships you can write in anything ever and these two for sure are a big part of why i love that kind of thing so much
narratively speaking, i really like how we progressively see more and more glimpses of blue and silver as kids throughout the chapter until it culminates in us actually getting a flashback to when blue was first kidnapped and the montage of her and silver growing up together. that progression feels rlly satisfying to me
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moving on, i like how we finally get a conclusion to red's offer to be the viridian gym leader from all the way back at the end of RGB! but specifically, the way that they use it as a framing device for exploring red's condition, which is what i REALLY want to talk about
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red makes me CRAZYYYYY in this chapter. i cannot emphasize just how much i LOVE that he actually has lasting damage from being frozen in yellow. it would've been so easy to just brush it off but NO. we actually get to see red be effectively disabled for a while, and i love every scene about it we see.
seeing red pushing away people and acting like he's fine, and having that be treated by the narrative as a bad thing which he needs to learn from and learn to accept help from others.... its soooo good. watching him come to terms with everything and understand his limits (turning down the gym leader position despite wanting it for years) is reallyy really compelling
and not only does red have serious physical repercussions from yellow, but it's also clear that he's not the same kid he was before, judging from how he has pika stay behind with yellow so he wouldn't get hurt again (showing his lingering guilt about the incident) and how he acts cheerful and energetic as usual on the outside while secretly being very anxious and rattled by his injuries
i do very much wish, as i always have, that red didn't get fully healed on mt silver. not because i want him to suffer, but just because i think having him be effectively disabled in a way is really compelling and interesting, and it would've been really cool if that just became a part of his life he had to adjust to. and like, i understand that that kind of injury might not even have permanent effects in the first place but. idk. these are just some of my favorite red scenes in the whole series and i really wish it could've been a permanent part of his character
he did at least struggle with his condition for a FULL YEAR, and judging from how it took sabrina a whole year of soaking in the lower level mt silver hot springs to recover enough to be back in fighting shape (and the fact that red had to be on his bike at the end of yellow because he was in pain and having a hard time standing), it's likely that his injuries were way worse directly after the events of yellow. so at the very least we have a whole year of red dealing with being disabled, even though we don't get to see it
also speaking of sabrina, i really like how she and red have this kind of solidarity with their shared condition, regardless of them being on opposing sides. i think that's cool
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i also wanted to mention just how much i love red green and blue's bond in this chapter :) we mainly see red and green interacting, and i rlly like how much they clearly trust each other and can work together so effortlessly.
and even tho we see blue interacting w them less, i like how both she and green lent red their starters when he was going up to mt silver!! shows just how much they care about him and also how much they wanted to make sure he would be ok on his own up there :) which also screams to me that they witnessed that whole year where red was dealing with his condition and had to learn to look out for him and make sure he wasnt pushing himself too hard. which. ack
also on the topic of green. i dont like chuck sorry just had to get that out there. like i mentioned in a previous post i dont think he's a bad guy, he means well, not like norman or anything, but he did not need to be so hard on green when he was like what, 8. like calm down bro
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anyways MORE BLAINE AND MEWTWO YAY. blaine being healed by entei but losing his bond with mewtwo in the process, which also in turn does allow mewtwo to finally be free and do as it pleases, is the perfect place to take their storyline imo.
it was lovely seeing him and mewtwo together but that was the main problem with the previous status quo, mewtwo having to stay with blaine, in the master ball, in order to keep him alive. im glad that mewtwo can finally be free without having to rely on humans for once :)
ok last point before i get into some of the end stuff - yellow gender reveal 2 electric boogaloo!!!!
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i basically already said everything i wanted to say about this scene in another post so im kinda just gonna repeat that here lol. (also reminder that we're viewing this through my non-binary yellow agenda, where they enjoyed being in disguise because it let them not be a girl, rather than being a boy)
red was basically the last person (that they're close with) and the most IMPORTANT person that yellow could continue to Not Be a Girl around and i think that explanation makes yellow's strong aversion to coming out here make a lot more sense than it does within the original text
like. literally why else would they have this weird obsession with not yelling red they're a girl? other than like, they feel bad about "lying" to him and dont want to admit it or something?? if yellow enjoyed presenting as something other than a girl, it makes perfect sense that they wouldnt want to tell red (the person they care about the most) they're a girl and would literally only reveal that fact when ABSOLUTELY FORCED TO. and they very clearly do not look happy about this
like it is shown IN THE TEXT that yellow, for SOME reason, wants red to continue believing they're a boy. gee i wonder what explanation for that would make the most sense!!!
yellow not wanting to be a girl is so unbelievably easy to read. like they are so fucking transgender it's crazy. sorry kusaka you wrote a non-binary person! mine now!!
ANYWAYS. really getting into the climax now, i really liked the thing of everyone sending their pokemon to help out, very sweet and uplifting :) i LOVE the indomitable human (and pokemon) spirit babey!!!!!!!
the two big callbacks at the end, Boy and His Lapras and the shitty silver wanted poster, are really cool and it makes the whole chapter feel really circular and complete, i thought that was a really cool way to tie everything together
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^ also would just like to highlight how gold tenderly holding silver and crystal's hands and giving them the feathers while thanking them for all the fun they've had together before he sacrifices himself and their absolute devastation when they think he's died is literally one of the best moments in all of pokespe and you can fight me i do not care. i love these three so fucking much
finally, i just want to say how much the end of this chapter feels like the end of an era. mato retiring as artist along with just where it leaves off story-wise... it feels like a very satisfying ending while still being open enough that it doesn't at all feel unnecessary that they continued way past here. that final illustration of the kanto and johto dexholders together after everything fills me with so much nostalgia its actually crazy
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OK AND THATS BASICALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY. i think despite just HOW many moving parts there are in this chapter, for the most part the pacing is good and everyone gets the right amount of screen time and development. even more minor characters like blaine or bill!
now that i've finally finishing writing all this, next stop on my journey is the mt silver training chapter!! i mentioned before that as a kid i actually had no idea that there was so much time between when it was written and where it actually takes place chronologically, since the site i read pokespe on back in the day just had it between GSC and R&S lol. i literally only found out it was made in fucking 2013 or whatever like a few days ago. shits crazy
but yes that should be a fun little thing to revisit :D and then i'll finally be caught up to where i randomly started with ruby & sapphire, and i can move onto FRLG!!!! see you then :)
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I really think people go too far and miss the point when they pretend that Renfield did nothing wrong the whole novel, and I think they make Renfield's character less interesting in the process. I do find him very sympathetic, and I do think the choices he makes in the novel are very much a product of the dehumanizing conditions he's in... but he still very much makes the choices. He very actively sought Dracula out- if anything he's the one that convinced Dracula to use him not the other way around. He was fully onboard with murdering people and drinking their blood to gain power, he had full knowledge of what Dracula was doing- what changed through the course of the his arc was that he realized human life, human souls had value and he didn't have the right to take that away. Taking him from Point A to Point B is what is interesting, and you can only explore that if you acknowledge his agency to make those choices of his own free will to begin with.
Also. Seward is abusive towards him- but what I also think some people don't understand is: Dr. John Seward is not the root cause of all Renfield's problems. In fact, the text would suggest that Seward's position at that asylum is probably not more than a few months old when the novel starts. Like Seward is simply the latest face of one of many doctors for Renfield. In my Renfield fic, Renfield writes to Seward and he says "You're not halfway to as bad as it gets" and I stand by this, because if I look at it from Renfield's perspective- Seward actions cannot be the worst he's ever endured in his decades of being institutionalized. Seward's interest in studying him affords Renfield far too much choice for that to be the case (bc no one on this site has reading comprehension I'm not saying that it's RIGHT that Seward sees him as an experiment, but I'm saying it allows Renfield to do what he wants to do far more than I imagine would be the case for other doctors).
There are some takes I've seen that were like "oh you can really see how much Seward hates Renfield after he dares to defy him by attacking him" and, like, respectfully, Renfield attacking Seward that one time was not a #girlboss moment for him, and also Seward getting some bad feelings and mistrust of Renfield from that experience is... realistic in my opinion. Even if you are the most altruistic doctor in the world wouldn't you be a little on guard after that experience? In that scene Renfield is attacking Seward with the intent to kill him and drink his blood. It's up for interpretation whether he knew he was being used as a distraction so that Lucy was unguarded, or whether Dracula just spurred him on (again I think giving Renfield the most knowledge is always the most interesting take) but his motives are not noble or sympathetic, he's trying to commit and aid and abet murder for his own selfish ends. The sympathetic thing to me about that scene is he thinks he's going to get so much benefit from these actions, both from drinking Seward's blood and from the rewards Dracula will give him, but all he gets is the padded room and the straight waistcoat, because Dracula is just using him and manipulating him.
Something else I want to say is Renfield DOES in fact manipulate Dr. Seward in this novel. He is manipulative, he is very manipulative. Now, again, he's manipulative because he has no power over his own life, so if he wants to get the things he wants then basically his only option is to convince the doctors to let him do the things he wants- but like. You can understand the reasons behind his actions, and be sympathetic to them, while still recognizing that he's trying to help out Dracula for a long spell of this novel. Renfield is not an innocent, but he's also not a monster. He is someone who has coped with decades of institutional abuse by becoming a manipulative, selfish person, who can be quite nasty. That's realistic, that is often what suffering does to people. Denying that aspect of Renfield is not actually doing his character any favors, and it just makes it less interesting when, despite everything, he grows as a human being and dies trying to save others from Dracula.
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angryteapott · 1 year ago
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Okay, someone else posted so it got me thinking but one of the reasons I hate the reveal that li lianhua is ~secretly royalty~ and more importantly that shan gudao was a regular guy is because of happy's death. To sum up:
Happy is actually the reason i got so into the show, because without him the first few arcs would feel very flat. There's a bunch of little moments that show happy's interiority, and a bunch of little moments that show fang duobing blithely not getting it. My favorite of these moments is when fang duobing snatches a letter with happy's fathers handwriting as evidence. He'd intended to burn it at his mother's grave.
This is an interesting writing choice! It sets up our hyper privileged protagonist not really caring about non privileged people. It works nicely with Li Xiangyi's past being that he was a beggar. We also get a bit of that sort of backstory with di feisheng, but it doesn't really have a regular people vibe so it doesn't fit into this theme of this inherent conflict of who's important and who isn't.
And for the first few cases this is very important! Happy's death makes Fang Duobing seek vengeance for him, and he seeks justice for the guards as well while learning it was really the rich who vented their anger about their own selfish mistreatment of a loved one. Very much dual themes of who is justice for (fang duobing's arc) and people who were treated badly by the people who were supposed to love them. Yeah they got justice for the guards by... killing their enslaved colleagues... but fight scenes are a must I guess. This also is interesting in the context of Li Xiangyi founding Baichuan Court, a mechanism for justice (it's a cop show, I know, I know). This is the moment I think Li Lianhua first really notices Fang Duobing.
Then they never. Mention. Happy. Again.
Sputteringly, the themes are continued! Qiao Wanmian intentionally lets go of people related to the jinyuan alliance instead of assuming they're guilty by association. The lotus mansion arc's first victim is a redeemed courtesan with few choices and the girls of girl manor are treated sympathetically. Zijin is shown as evil both because he's jealous but also because he's shallow and obsessed with power instead of justice. There's a throwaway line that Sigu Sect should search for a merchant the same way as they do for Li Xiangyi. An important moment revealing that Fang Duobing sees Li Xiangyi as more than just his status is him understanding that the Sigu Sect should be about justice, combining neatly with Xiangyi's previous status as a beggar that people say he should be so embarrassed of he would kill Shan Gudao about it. But never is there a case with the same justice is for everyone thrust. The villains become determined by their ethnicity with a few one off 'greedy' characters. What is the point of the king of hell arc, other than to be background as LLH and FDB divorce? By the time we see Li-er again, Happy's erstwhile friend, the show is wrapped up enough in the main plot that it doesn't really notice that Fang Duobing tried to send Li-er for a blanket when the mansion is under attack in place of his mother when he says out loud he never thought his mother was in any real danger. The villains were people with birth defects mad about being treated as disposable who killed women to (reads notes) detoxify poison that actual emerald would work for that they never figured out how to identify from a local after ten years.
Then the main plot is revealed- Shan Gudao! Thematically, Shan Gudao is a villain because he was always jealous of Li Xiangyi, but he clings to shallow things like bloodline making him matter in the face of his trauma.
By this time in my least favorite way of upping the stakes not even Li Lianhua cares about the little people anymore, only about the "peace of the world" maintained by an emperor who was going to build an expensive pagoda for fertility issues, presumably at the expense of the people. Before we even get to the horrible no good reveal it's shown that Shan Gudao was treated as less than by his adults because his parents didn't have a relationship with them. He's evil because he was mad about it, not because his anger was misdirected. Then they reveal that all along good guy Li Xiangyi was the royal bloodline and the emperor and Shan Gudao are not.
Do you see. How far we've come. From a theme of you shouldn't ignore the lives of those of the lower class. Our fascinating justice seeking protagonist is secretly royalty, oooh. I guess it could be a play that these things are shallow and arbitrary, but it's a) actually important to the plot that he is for his literal actual blood and b) so far removed from the nuance of the first few cases it feels baffling to rewatch them. I hate it! I hate it so much! Instead of learning the explicitly stated lesson of the first few cases that things shouldn't be about shallow markers of power it should be about justice for everyone it turns into Fang Duobing learning Tianji Manor servants sure are useful as cannon fodder, no need to learn any of their names, oh my boyfriend is the most important interesting man on earth. Literally the end of the Fang Duobing Happy dichotomy is oh we forgot we did that. It's not even that they said the theme i liked was wrong it's that they said forget about that theme it's too complicated and low stakes really people just get too jealous of special people and the "world" is at risk ie the emperor and not anyone else. Which if they set that up as how things are or interrogate it and end up there I'll argue with it, but I won't call the writing just based on that. Here...
I really do love the characters and their relationships, but in terms of themes they dropped the ball so badly I'm having issues with the characterization
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mdhwrites · 2 years ago
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what are your thoughts on the hunter/golden guard disparity? i have always hated his character, bc when he was introduced he was arrogant, selfish, and cruel, but the minute he was discarded by belos, all his actions are suddenly forgiven and he doesnt do anything else bad for the whole show. u probably heard this so many times but he feels like, and for all intents and purposes IS, an entirely different character
people compare him to zuko all the time, but the two are only alike on a surface level; hunter hasn't actually like, done anything to redeem himself? not that he necessarily has to in order to be an interesting character! but the show, and the fandom, treats him as 100% redeemed for no apparent reason, and that grates on me
So in terms of what it does to his character, what it means and the like and how the transition is, I actually did touch on it somewhat in one blog called "Does Hunter Have a Character Arc?"
Also, the disparity between his first major appearance and his second major appearance, alongside Amity's own version of this, is what made me coin the phrase "Your character arc appears a lot more drastic when you start out of character." It was something I'd said first meaning it as a joke but... *gestures at The Collector who is pulling the same shit* The show is really bad as far as handling the characters it wants to redeem because Amity is the closest of the three not to come off as entirely different in her first appearance and even then, she is about 100x more unhinged in her first appearance than she literally ever gets, despite Covention's stakes being so much higher and the failure more catastrophic.
And before I get to the twist on all of this I want to talk about, (I'll actually bold text where that is if you want to skip the anecdote) I want to point out the most bizarre thing that has happened between me and the fandom in regards to Hunter. Warning for Boscha fans because this will sound all too normal to all of you.
I have a story called The Blight's Ruff Secret (which was then converted into the original story Their Ruff Secrets). In it, Hunter shows up for like... One chapter and is named dropped in one or two more. He's not important but Belos running the biggest church in town is for Luz's arc in that story. After all, her being gender non-conforming and bi in a small, religious town doesn't exactly mean she's popular, let alone with the teenagers at church, not that she'll tell a Camila who is devout any of that.
Hunter in that story is a bigot and a bully and friends with Boscha. This combination led to a long comment of someone saying that they liked my story but that Hunter would NEVER be a bigot, bully and god forbid the very concept of him being friends with SOMEONE LIKE BOSCHA.
And this wasn't even post S3. This was between S2A and B. So... To say the fandom is a bit fucked up when it comes to understanding the fundamental elements of Hunter's backstory and who he started as character-wise is a bit of an understatement.
Admittedly, it's also the show's fault because it fails to incorporate elements of the world or the character's history into who they are or what they do. And this is kind of what I want to touch on more with The Golden Guard versus Hunter disparity: What is the Golden Guard? And how does it transform over the course of the show?
So let's start with the absolute first thing we're told and shown. After losing Lilith, the coven decides that it's best face to put out publicly is The Golden Guard. Realistically, you do this for one of two reasons. One is that they are the face that the most amount of people know or two: You believe he can be that because he is the best amongst your ranks. Lilith even pushes at least the second idea by saying that he's a child prodigy. These posters are also put EVERYWHERE in the episode we see them and enchanted in a way to stay in your face if you're annoyed with them, literally.
In that same episode, we're introduced to The Golden Guard, who at least has enough influence to get a LOT of gold and an expedition together, complete with boat, just for the sake of accomplishing the mission of killing the Selkidamus. I actually suspect that if Eda hadn't stolen the gold, Hunter wouldn't have had any reason to threaten Eda, Luz and King because, well... That wasn't his job or plan.
As such, the point of The Golden Guard is to be able to handle messier missions that might risk multiple guards otherwise but he can handle on his own. He is their special agent and appears to be given access to a lot of resources for this goal. Hunting Palisman even pushes this concept further by him being the one sent out alone to get the Palisman, complete with an airship.
As far as a compelling antagonist who at least can do as much as Lilith did in S1, it's not a bad setup actually. It's a bit too close to just making a new EC head but the twist of them having no reason to NOT kill Lilith and Luz is one that allows them to be much more dangerous and brutal in what they do. It's effectively swapping out Rita for Zed in Mighty Morphin Power Rangers.
Buuuuut that's much more complicated for the sake of redeeming Hunter, isn't it? So even in Hunting Palisman, we get our first retcon about the Golden Guard: No one knows him. Literally fucking no one knows what the fuck he looks like, acts like or sounds like. Yes, he's without his cloak and mask but I imagine what he's wearing is still standard issue underneath that since it looks like body armor so maybe give him a little more credit than accusing him of being just some dumb teenager?
This also begs the question of why he was put on the posters? If he is so anonymous to the troops, they can't vouch for him if someone comes to them for more info on who is on the poster. Shouldn't the guards have literally any idea of who's leading them? Or representing them? Because... If Hunter isn't, who is? There's no EC coven head anymore. And never will be from the show's standpoint, even months later.
Eclipse Lake doubles down on this. Now, not only is The Golden Guard unknown without their mask but a disgraced Kikimora can command guards more than Hunter. If this isn't true, Eclipse Lake makes no sense. Admittedly, Hunter doesn't bring his mask or staff, neither of which makes any sense unless he needs to get them directly from Belos before any mission which... MAYBE the staff but absolutely not on the mask. That's just a part of his uniform.
So within three episodes, he has gone from the biggest deal and the most important member of the EC... To nothing. To an outcast amongst his peers without any power or respect. In THREE EPISODES. Without him himself doing anything and only failing one mission because as far as Belos knows, the Selkidamas IS dead.
And the fact that this does mirror Hunter's own character arc highlights how badly it's handled, if it even exists, let alone it being rational in any conceivable way. And this is all S2A which... Almost certainly wasn't affected by the shortening and sure as shit wasn't written with the shortening in mind if it was. After all, while the decision happened by the time the S1 finale came out... Animation takes a lot of time. They would have been knee deep in production for S2. Dana herself has proven that as before S2 came out, they started WRITING AND BOARDING SEASON THREE.
So... This is just what Hunter's arc was decided to be. What the Golden Guard meant. And it's just bad. And that's without getting into the ways it goes about assassinating what we knew about the Emperor's Coven in Sport in a Storm or the like.
So why did the fandom forgive him? Why is he so popular? I... Wish I knew. When push comes to shove, like in the blog I linked at the top, I can come up with more charitable readings on his character. Give him a real character instead of a puppet constantly being yanked around and changed by the Hand of the Author, but casually? Why the hell should I care about a character who I never can get a grasp on? Who's fundamental elements constantly contradict themselves.
And Hunter isn't the only person like this. But hey, the Collector sure is going to be a fun, final boss fight, isn't he? *eye twitch*
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