#but i mean in a romo relationship way
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So many shippers want to take stobin away from each other by either undermining their big friendship moments, especially the bathroom scene by either making Steve talk about someone else when he's describing how amazing Robin is or (as I've unfortunately seen) have Robin lie about liking Tammy (to cover her crush on Nancy) which makes the entire scene ingenuine and the basis of their solid friendship a falsehood, or by giving their dynamic to other characters like making Robin and Eddie best friends before scoops (when they probably didn't even know each other beyond going to the same school). Just. Why. Why must you separate them? Why do you feel the need to remove their big emotional moments of love and trust and give it to different characters?
#stobin#guess i should tag as#anti ronance#stranger things#finda's rambles#fandom salt#just!!! stop!!!!!#the rnce thing really gets me like seriously??? why would robin lie about that? why would you take that moment away from them#why would you shred everything that moment means to both of them? for her to lie? to base their relationship on a lie?#and to have steve find out? it would ruin them. i cannot see them coming back from thst because it would mean that moment#wasnt one of trust and honesty and joy for robin like it was for steve#but of deception#and now so far along betrayal and hurt. how could robin do thst to steve? how could steve look at her the same way?#knowing she lied about THEIR moment for so long#platonic stobin#sorry i saw that post again by accident and it pisses me off. why would robin even want to lie in that moment about her crush#i know they probably werent even thinking of the implications for stobin tho. just about romo ship.#steve harrington#robin Buckley#fandom wank
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i need to write more konbart... i miss them... i still think it's a fucking crime that final crisis legion of three worlds didn't even let them hug. bart should've seen kon alive again and tackled him the second the fighting was over. bart should've latched on like a limpet and cried for at least an hour. come on.
#tim&cassie have the unbreakable bond of The Ones Left Behind. kon&bart have that of The Ones Who Died.#like i know i write a lot of timkon and i do love them but also i Firmly believe qp konbart is just as important a relationship in kons life#i just tend to write less about aro feelings bc that hits too close to home sometimes ksdjlsh romance is like. haha yeah not me but it's fun#but aro love. oh fuck ill be perceived. but sometimes i think about meg's little ficlet of aro bart thinking he would be in love with kon--#--if he could be in love with anybody. like it would be kon but he's not built that way. and then i need to lie down a minute#kon and bart and their deep profound meaning to each other...#like bart is sooo aro to me but qp konbart does make me insane if i think about it#(i appreciate romo konbart too dgmw <3 but the qp version is what makes me lose my fucking mind)#augh........... konbart.....#rimi talks#kon#bart#konbart
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Aro culture is being sick of "They aren't dating anyone so they must be gay/a lesbian!"
Nothing against people headcanoning characters as gay or lesbian (I'm arospec ace and gay) but like. Aromanticism exists too.
(This was brought on by seeing a slide in a PowerPoint in my English Lit lesson today (13th March), I didn't see it fully since the teacher was just skipping over it quickly to check some other context stuff but it said something about how in the book we're studying, Jekyll and Hyde, none of the major characters are in romantic relationships and therefore it's possible that they could be gay. I might bring up that they could also be aro when my teacher brings it up?)
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#aro culture is#aro#aromantic#actually aro#actually aromantic#ask#mod phoenix#also like... contextually how can that be interpreted through the historical/cultural lens of the era?#how might a romantic/sexual relationship have affected the story?#like ngl i also HATE the way that there's an assumption that if a person has dated someone of [some gender] they MUST be attracted to them#like even if the major characters were in a romo/sexual relationship:#does that actually mean they are exclusively attracted to that gender? is it not possible that - for example - they're a- or m-spec?#or even: what if they aren't romo/sexually attracted to them? what if we are meant to interpret that attraction as misunderstood?#or as forced upon them by a narrative?
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I really like romances that highlights a complex relationship with desire. what’s that one quote. found it, it’s the siken quote that goes “the enormity of my desire disgusts me” and “there’s only one thing I want, don’t make me say it” LOVE that. it’s so fun. denial and repression and self-loathing! some of my favorite ingredients for a romance.
#time to talk the romos#it can show up in any narrative in many ways#but the way in romance it pulls another person into the process#is SOOOOO fun for me#with romance being character-focused and with the plot tied to emotional/relationship development#(when it’s done well) you get to see it in both an individual and systemic context#how it manifests in solitude and its impact on relationship patterns#how it’s masked or displayed#whether the character is aware or unaware#whether the character is trying to break these patterns or are furiously clinging to them#fight or flight lol#anyway that’s why I just ended up rotating that one single father bl in my head for so long#I feel like writing-wise I’m kind of lukewarm on it? but themes-wise it grabbed me by the throat and shook me like a rattle#the love interest’s whole thing is how at his core he wants affection but has only gotten it through dysfunctional means#because what he’s wanted has always been dismissed or rejected or minimalized for the sake of someone else#well yknow he’s an orphan and was taken in by his maternal uncle so there’s always been resentment if he does better than the ‘actual’ son#so the pattern is#starting from his cousin and his cousin’s girlfriend#is seeing affection and going ‘I want that’ and ‘stealing’ another person’s partner#and then instantly being disinterested because if it’s so easily ‘stolen’ it’s not the affection he actually wants#and since it continues outside of that context of. well essentially revenge#it just continues into solely experiencing unfulfilling relationships#so when the love interest recognizes his own interest in the main character#he’s trying to continue his cycle of ‘surely if I sleep with this person I’ll lose interest’ except by this point *that’s* the self-delusion#he’s found a person that he connects with and with whom he wants a genuine relationship#and it’s devastating to him!!!!!!#lmao I love it
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lavender marriage / beard for the soulmate or timeloop au
#insofar as Destined To Be With This Person Romantically is akin to; you know; the demands of Romance irl#but where it's like. the universe has arranged the marriage. the universe has [marriage traditions from ''abducting A Bride is fine'']#like what's the equivalent of trying to juke / thwart the Destined Pairing in [vs fantastical premise where Reality demands it]#horror angle of being the person pushed towards the soulmate. horror angle of Being designated someone's soulmate#or even the person they Must have some kind of interaction with to Proceed lol. it Must happen#plus being the person in a loop who doesn't get to know about the looping; bonus points for the horror#sure you're not dealing w/the horror of loop awareness lol but that the lack of awareness / info puts you on the back foot#that you Are aware this elevated vulnerability could be happening anytime whether you are clued in about it or not#the ol What They Don't Know Can't Hurt Them like well is that true. does it make the Unknown Hurting perfectly fine actually#like imagining if there was knowledge like at any given time someone could be in their timeloop & you have no idea lol....#sure could affect things in ways. & in a reality here where people sure break out ''well we gotta See What Happens if we kiss/date &c''#anyway so bring it around to how do you ward it off. shift the [this would all be scary yeah] to the comedy side of the horror same coin#lavender marriages of soulmate aus b/c Sigh Well If We Gotta; Then#figuring out the parameters like when how does the universe decide you've Learned Your Lesson lol. [omniscient god?] issues now#but is it omnipotence as well. time looping might suggest it but you kiss the right person like well damn that's romance cue enough#can you be my beard so i can leave Today :/ yeah the timestream is requiring it (cue whatever Proving / Arguing that this is happening)#but still already fond of the Just Cranking My Thang Crazy Style out of the timeloop. loop just gets sick of it#all the Flexibility in what loops / Destined Relationships are For yeah sure but this is about the inherent You Gotta. You Have To.#the Horror Element is unsurprising b/c it's like yeah....yeah that's the narrative of Romance for you#or the broader narrative of ''the way this person feels about you means they want xyz from you / are entitled to a kind/level of access''#i think ''kicked out of the timeloop for not learning any life lessons just cranking my thang'' And ''but what if god is doing this to me#but without truly unlimited omniscience &/or omnipotence'' is also basically hiagb#which Nodding at how Romantic Love comes up in there but as a Wrench In The Gears vs destiny or even true solution(tm)#hm what if the person made aware of someone else's loop is the assigned Destiny but is like i gotta get outta here lmao#you have until the end of the day. you have until they Maybe tell you again....#either party being Helped by some third party like wow check out This surprising partnership we've discovered :o well anyway. no romo#tl;dr just like the comedy of evading the horror of romance as Destined Meaning & Meanintful Destiny irl. in the au contexts#& i said lovelessness lol no Replacing it w/true lifelong friendship. no replacing it w/''cranking your thang? whoa replaced w/Yourself''#[you just are you should just be] + nothing one Has to do to escape the demands of [the universe?] or [person demanded by the universe]#no authority & no Love (but what if the You Gotta was framed in positive language once there's a tiny bit more wiggle room actually)
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Ive thought about what I might want to be called in terms of dating, right, with the whole no biney business. and like, datemate always had a nice - symmetry, and it's very to the point, and it's cute. but also - it's cute, and maybe I want an option that is not cute.
anyway I had the idea of using the word thembeau and I can never go back. datemate is out, partner is out. if you can't claim me as your thembeau then we're nothing sorry 😔
#x: axel talks#last line is v lighthearted btw#since it may not be clear based on the point of the post : romo is not be all end all. for me and it shouldn't be for more ppl#very many meaningful relationships to be had that are not romo#just thought it would be a funny way to wrap up the post y'know?#I mean this WHOLE dang post carries the qualifier that I'm still not even sure what romance is for me or if I want it#there's a reason I've been self-identifying my sexuality as ???? for a while now#literally when I talk to queer folks irl I will say my sexuality/orientation is 'like a million question marks'#anyway this post brought to you by not only post-midnight axel but ALSO post-AMBIEN axel haha wow#I am either about to pass out or about to have the weirdest time. I'm hoping for sleep but losing optimism lmao. ugh.
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You all need to be reminded that Queerplatonic Relationships are long term committed relationships that originated from aromantic people who want the consistency and loyalty in romantic relationships without the expectations of performing romance. If you don't want to commit to a platonic relationship, then you don't want a QPR ("platonic" word here is used as the opposite of "romantic" instead of "sexual" because some queerplatonic partners can be sexual and others can be non-sexual).
QPR is not just a quirky term for intense emotional friendship because any friendship can have that intimacy but not all friends commit to each other in the way that makes the relationship queer. The queerness in queerplatonic means we have a relationship that's so devoted and yet platonic because we are debunking amatonormativity here that dictates to us (by society) that romantic relationships must be the priority.
If you just want to kiss and hug your friends and hold their hands or anything else intimate but you don't think you can be committed to that friendship, it's not queerplatonic relationship you want. If you're misusing queerplatonic term, you're erasing the meaning of this word that helps aromantic people communicate our boundaries, expectations and experiences as queer people. Please just respect us. Treating QPR like it's just a "friendship" is as rude as treating it as "romance lite". I want a commitment but no romo. It's that simple.
Edit: This is not gatekeeping or exclusionary. All this post is saying is that QPR is a non-romancebased commitment. Anyone can have a QPR if you can be committed to people even if you aren't expecting romance from them. Any misunderstanding over this is not my responsibility. Maybe read better.
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cuddling w chris while watching a movie in his bed and falling asleep on his chest and he finds it so cute and falls asleep after
cuddling with chris then falling asleep
𐙚 shortish fic!
warnings: boyfriend!chris, slight angst,
authors note: this has been in the drafts for a while sorry about that, but i was just watching ‘a walk to remember’ and thought hey how about i finally get up and start posting some fics.
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CHRIS ISN’T THE SUPER AFFECTIONATE TYPE. sure he’ll want to go out on cute dates here and there, or do cheesy couple things, but if you ask him to couple up on the coach or in his room and watch cheesy romo coms his first response will be no.
you weren’t always annoyed by this though. you knew how scary it is for him to be a relationship considering how intense youtube has been for him, but it always deep down seems to bother you.
it was a late thursday night and chris had just finished filming with his brothers when he noticed you sitting on the couch strolling through instagram with a cheesy movie on, he couldn’t help but smile a little bit. nick had editing to do so he immediately darted to his room, while matt sat on the opposite end of the couch, staring at his phone.
you looked up at chris, smiling before bringing your eyes back to the tv. "how was filming?" you asked, leaning for the blanket to your right, and covering your lower half.
chris groaned, laying his head on top of your from behind the sofa. "you know how hectic filming is." you really do. as his girlfriend you’ve only been in a few videos bc of how creepy and weird the fandom is, but it does get a little intense.
“yeah…" you muttered, shutting of your phone and making room on the couch for chris. "we could watch a movie? something less cheesy."
chris straightened, looking at you then his brother. "umm maybe we could watch it in my room? and it’s your turn to pick a movie."
your eye brows scrunched as you looked at matt. matt looked up from his phone, confused as he looked at you and chris. then it clicked in his head and he immediately stood up from the couch. "oh no! by all means i’m going to my room. sitting in a room with just the two of you is like sitting in a room with-"
"okay thank you matt!" chris said stopping him from finishing his sentence. you giggled as you also stood up from the couch. "but is okay we can just watch in my room. besides i’m already exhausted."
matthew nodded, but still dashed to his bedroom down the hall. in his head he was taking no chances.
you wrapped your blanket around your shoulders, and slipped into your slippers beside you on the couch. it was nearly twelve o’clock so you were already dressed and ready for bed. you had no plans staying the night due to your crazy early classes in the morning, but you just couldn’t help yourself.
chris moved beside wrapping a lazy arm around your shoulders as you guys made your way upstairs.
you sat on his bed, while he made his way towards his dresser, looking for some pjs to toss on. he ended up finding some plaid pajamas and a plain white t-shirt to toss on. he grabbed his laptop from the corner of the room, before settling on the bed beside you.
"so we can watch anything but the notebook. deal?" chris said opening the laptop. you groaned, pushing yourself into his long arms.
"come on you forced me to watch some karate movie a few nights ago."
chris gasped as he remembered last movie night. "karate kid is the movie of the century. you can not dis on that movie ever babe."
your eyes rolled, as your moved your hands to the keyboard. “yeah yeah, whatever." you opened netflix, scrolling through the now trending movies, to then opening the romance movies.you see the past movies your boyfriend had been a baby through, and you simply just giggle to yourself. but when your eyes land on a walk to remember you gasp while chris groans,
"again?" he whines, looking at the title.
“what do you mean again? we’ve never watched this together." you correct, looking at him. he kisses your forehead gently, looking down at you. "but you have and that doesn’t seem fair." he replies.
"alright fine." you say, clicking out the movie preview and continuing to scroll.
chris frowns looking at the change in tone. as much as he hates romance movies he hates upsetting you more. "wait no if you really want to watch it we can."
"no im not going to force you to watch something you don’t want to watch." you say, trying not to sound annoyed or sad.
“no im serious we can watch it. you just have to promise not to fall asleep." he says, smiling at your face slightly light up.
you click back in the movie, rubbing your face against into your boyfriends chest. "no promises. i’m already sleepy." you giggle, while chris rubbed his fingers through your messy hair.
and you were beyond right. twenty minutes in you were passed out. snoring slightly and holding chris like he was a teddy bear. he wasn’t even watching the movie, he was watching you.
the way you were smiling at something in your sleep and slightly drooling seemed so adorable to him. your hair was just scatted across his chest while he kept playing around with your loose strands.
his eyes glanced at his phone in his hand and frowned at how late it was. he turned off the running movie, putting the laptop on his end table, being so careful not to wake you.
you rolled over to your side, so you were completely against chris’ chest. he just couldn’t stop smiling.
he rubbed your cheeks slightly, before kissing your temple good night, drifting asleep with you in his arms moments later here with you.
#ellieswifie#gracie writes#fem!reader#fluff#sturniolo triplets#chris sturniolo fluff#chris sturniolo x reader#chris blurb#chris#chris sturniolo#christoper sturniolo
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So, about how I see Link Click's Lu Guang and Cheng Xiaoshi relationship:
As it stands in canon? Queerplatonic partners. And it's convenient for the plot that they're like this.
Because of Chinese censorship it can't be explicitly romantic, yes I know it. Let me tell why it's queerplatonic for me. The way these two have intertwined their lives and futures together?!
Owning a business and living together, that hint in ep2 (comparing them to the subtextually older lesbian couple who also came across as queerplatonic bc censure) where Xiaoshi wonders/fears if years down the line he and Lu Guang will separate/break up implying their partnership is for life as far as he's concerned (the parallel can be taken as a subtext romance too but follow me we're talking text), the way they were already going also on vacancies together three years prev in canon, etc...
Without entering on their complimentary powers and the way the dives need both of them if they want security in not screwing the past, and the inmense trust and vulnerability the dives themselves require?
They're not simply best friends either.
Those aren't the actions of normal, totally not queer friends. Cheng Xiaoshi checks out women on the dives, sure, (and men too when the host is feeling it which I love bc they can't address it directly bc censorship and then it comes across as Xiaoshi being super confident in his own relationship to sexuality/gender) but I don't think he would ever date bc Lu Guang is already there, filling that place in his life minus sex and romance but all that same companionship and intensity of feeling.
These two meet in what, the last year/s of High School and then proceeded to latch onto each other with a commitment reserved for romantic partners.
And I know you want to say, "it's the censorship! they'd be romantic and canon if not for the censorship!"
Are you sure? Are you sure the story would work if there were explicit romance in it? (I mean, if they could I'm pretty sure they would have nailed it anyways but allow me my a-spec delusions) Cheng Xiaoshi and Lu Guang feel so much like an already established pair, they work like one, and Link Click is not about them coming together like many other stories. Are you sure this would work as BL?
There's a distinct difference on the way they start the show already like six years at least since they're best friends and three or two since they live together. That's not usually how it goes. I'm talking not just romances but every buddy or nakama anime/show, where the protag has to learn to work with who will be his best friend or rival. These stories usually have the same kind of plot progression as a romance which is why they work so well when you make the subtext text.
But a story where the main romance is already established and we're following a plot that has nothing to do with it? Much more rare, even stranger to find them well done although there are some very good ones and with the friendships instead of romo they're more common. For example, Soul Eater, which is all about the trials of it and how they hace to truly come to understand each other. That's Link Click a bit, but not even then.
Link Click juggling a budding romance between Lu Guang and Cheng Xiaoshi with all the other stuff is going on?? Messier for sure. I don't know if people would have liked it as much or if the donghua would have been as well done.
As it is, Link Click has the exact level of emotional connection between our protags it needs to have incredibly high stakes emotionally and at the same time not need a detour by romantic scenes/fanservice that would derail the plot or the other charas importance. That it happens to be pretty queer anyways in a platonic way?
Nice for the aroace-spec folks watching the show xD
Btw, I'm pretty sure in season 3 we're going to get more of Lu Guang's PoV, the origins of their powers and the past between him and Xiaoshi. It'll probably dig more into the aspect of "testing their bond and coming stronger bc of it" which is were the romantic subtext usually comes through...
—unless you're very very good at writing like Arakawa in FMA, who nailed the brotherly relationship without tipping into incest subtext which I've seen more than a few writers fumble. or the latest D&D film for the platonic childrearing and partnership for a no familial example between a man and a woman also very very difficult to get right for writers dunno why—
... but until then, for now I'm incredibly satisfied by the canon.
The other read of course it that they're already a couple since well before the start of season 1, and to mentally edit what we saw in canon with that lens (it wouldn't be very difficult honestly) but reading only the text? Queerplatonic partners!
There also how Xiaoshi and Lu Guang don't have that anxiety/insecurity of their bond that makes it so easy to read the want for something, like a romance for shipping purposes. Despite the disagreements on the Dives or the trials of season 2 or Lu Guang keeping secret Cheng Xiaoshi future/past death they read very steady which is fun. I love some good established relationship, you can go to deeper places when the base is already secure and the risk is higher for the characters. Plus I love domesticity! Yes, I do my angsty/Gothic leanings notwithstanding. Don't you know you need a home for the Gothic to be effective?
#link click#meta#link click meta#lu guang#cheng xiaoshi#shiguang#my thoughts#all of this to say that I don't exactly ship them#Although I've been tagging fanart and meta with their shipname#bc I dont not ship them#honestly?#it's because despite it all I'm very much a canon girl so I can't help but see shiguang on that same romo-not romo limbo#canon present us with#loving the fics though#and Lu Guang is so tragic timetraveler for love coded is not funny#which is the reason I'm sure season 3 will give me that shift towards a more romantic lense to their relationship#also the way they made sure to sibling-fy qiao ling and cheng xiaoshi was fun XD#in conclusion: I think Link Click being a danmei wouldn't have worked#precisely bc it wasnt created as danmei the story as it is works almost perfectly#and right now Im not sure if I would want the romance at the expense of everything else the plot is doing#....qiang jin jiu did it well on the second half though#but it had the first part to go from a enemies-to-lovers and establishing the romance#I don't think I've seen a danmei start with a established romantic relationship bc the genre being a romance tells you that's#what's going to be centered#link click would had to be a just a time travel thriller with queer elements (which it is)#and I don't know#I'd love it but I bet we'll have lots of people annoyed/annoying bc they're here for the romance#Instead of taking the story for what it is#but then romance (queer romance) doesn't devalue the storytelling#ah the conflict of wanting a-spec queer stories VS censorship
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Hey! I mean no disrespect by this at all I'm just genuinely curious, in your bio it says you're an emotionless / loveless aplaroace, but you're taken? How does that work?
Oh hey, you're fine. So, I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume you know that aromantics can still date, and aces can still participate in intercourse or other. You don't need attraction to do these things, though I'm sure it certainly helps! There identities that are on the aromantic/asexual spectrums where they can experience attraction as well or want to participate in these sorts of relationships(ex: romo or sexual positive aro/aces). Now apply this to the broader aspec/anattractional spectrums.
I will say that emotions can be similar. You don't need to have emotions to be in different kinds of relationships.
Emotionless/loveless are terms I go by to describe my overall experience and/or identity. It does not specify how much emotion or love I can experience, it's just easier to go by the terms instead of describing it all, as like with my aplaroace label which does not specify which identities I go by under that.
I also find it matters little to certain people and they treat me like others who experience even less than I do.
Now with all of that out of the way, I am on the aroace spectrums so I do experience attraction to an extent, and I experience it only with my two partners. All three of us have varying and different types of attraction. I also experience some other non-rose attractions to my partners and even for people outside of them, such as communal or community based attraction, impersonal attraction, solaic, et cetera.
You can really have any type of relationship, as long as it's consensual and in good faith, it's really limitless. Maybe you don't care about that and that's totally fine. Labels, identities, relationship styles/dynamics are for us to use or enjoy but it doesn't mean we have to. But I do and it makes me happy. My partners know I support them and wouldn't want either to be in a relationship with me where they are unhappy or discontent.
#ask#anon#text wall#aspec#anattractional#emotionless#loveless#relationship anarchy#loveless aspec#loveless apl#aplaroace#aroace#apl#aro#ace#aplatonic#aromantic#asexual
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People making Robin mean to Steve is one of the biggest reasons I loved your one sided Ron*nce post. Because I genuinely cannot see Robin just overlooking how much Nancy hurt Steve just because Robin has a crush on her. Like even in small ways, I think Nancy did a number on Steve. I look at their relationship and see Steve being told he’s over dramatic, stupid, and that his hobbies and anything that makes him Steve is automatically less than Nancy’s hobbies and desires. Idk I just can’t see Robin hearing about that or about anyone treating Steve badly and not taking Steve’s side. Stobin should have the same brain always
Ahhh yes thank you!! Yeah it simply doesn't make sense to me with the history there. Because like. Even if we do not think Nancy cheated on Steve (which I believe she did, regardless of what TPTB say) she still broke his heart. Regardless of whether or not Steve thinks it's justifiable that she did, Robin wouldn't let that go. She holds a grudge like a motherfucker. The girl she liked had a crush on Steve and he also ate bagels messily in class and didn't know her name and she held onto that for at least two if not three years. No way that after she has finally found her forever person she'll let him being hurt go!! If she can hold onto a petty grudge she can hold onto a heartbreak grudge for her best friend. She does not like people who are mean to Steve and would not be one of them in the way she is sometimes made to be in fics(outside of legitimate misunderstandings, disagreements, normal friendship conflicts) (sorry I've rewritten this like 3 times trying to figure out how to say this without dissecting the st/ncy dynamic in s2. [which i ended up doing and then copy pasting that into a blank doc because oh. i have points. but off topic for this. But it's still a bit ranty] this gets a bit long, but I did delete a weird siderant in it so it's more on topic? I do have a stobin and r//ance point I SWEAR and I hope this is cohesive)
Like, I think Steve 100% blames himself for the breakup. We see this in s4. but also the show tries to make us believe that that's the truth and not Steve seeing Nancy through rose-coloured glasses which is wild. Unreliable Narrator Steve about his own love life is just. it makes sense with everything that we see happen between him and Nancy and how she very much has fault in the ending of their relationship, and should have taken more responsibility and at least broken up with Steve after she slept with Jonathan, but allowed Steve to shoulder the blame for being a "shitty boyfriend" when he really wasn't.
The way the breakup is framed as Steve's fault from the beginning of S2 is kinda wild to me because...Steve was right?? I ALSO wouldn't want to be discussing telling people the top secret government conspiracy that people had been murdered to keep it quiet over in the school library. That's not shitty boyfriend behaviour that's smart person scared of the government that can and will kill you if you blab behaviour. And Nancy even admitted she waited for Jonathan to make a move before going back to Steve, and then she cheated on him with jon! These are not things that Steve knows about or is responsible for! Why does the show make it seem like Steve is entirely at fault here!
Anyways I think Steve must not have told Robin everything and just used his "I was a shitty boyfriend" line on why they broke up for robin and while yeah, she's not good at reading people, she does know when to not push her sad looking friend into talking about a rough breakup. Which is why Robin is on the St/cy train in s4. If she had known everything, (once again not even touching the cheating) I cannot see her pushing Steve towards Nancy. She loves Steve and wants him happy, and thinks maybe if Nancy keeps giving him eyes, knowing Steve has changed in the past year and a half, Robin thinks maybe something can come of it! that's sweet! She's trying to get her friend back together with an ex he cares about, that obviously seems into him too, and doesn't know the extent of their breakup. Unfortunately canon did not make it clear Steve or Robin or Dustin or Eddie know Nancy and Jonathan are still dating? Which makes it very weird, and not make sense, so I am choosing to believe through a game of telephone with the kids Robin and Steve think Nancy and Jonathan broke up and that's why she didn't go to cali.
But Robin doesn't have all the facts so when he does tell her all about the end of his and Nancy's relationship, yes, and Robin is squinting at him because he is acting like it is his fault his heart got broken, but from all the facts given, it doesn't actually seem that way. She's not the best at reading people but she knows Steve, and it just...doesn't add up for her. Because all the things he said he did make sense to Robin, not wanting the government to kill you is actually very reasonable etc... And Steve is still so sad about it and clearly it still affected him getting his heartbroken like that. So Robin, who can hold a bagel crumb grudge like literally no one else, will obviously hold some resentment towards Nancy for hurting Steve like that even if Steve doesn't blame her, because Robin knows what it's like to just...not understand what you did wrong and still blame yourself for it. She's neurodiverse! If we use Rebel Robin, she lost Barb as a friend for seemingly no reason to her other than Barb finding a better friend(I think?) and it wasn't so dramatic as a breakup, but still. I think seeing that Steve had legitimately tried with the tools he was given to support Nancy and be a good boyfriend but blamed himself, and Nancy letting him do that, would strike a chord with Robin. She would Not let it go.
Robin might want to be Nancy's friend, especially if Steve is encouraging it, and insisting that it's fine and they did save the world together, but you're right! she could never overlook the fact that, not only is Nancy Steve's ex which makes things awkward anyway, but she also broke his heart and let him take the blame for it even if he doesn't realize it. (not to mention!! the cheating!!! I am still looking for post s2 st/ncy fic that let's them actually talk about it but it seems like that's just not addressed by the shippers? which is unfortunate because I'd read it, but I don't ship it enough to care to write it myself. Ya feel?) She could probably move past it for friendship if Steve was okay, but I also just...don't think they'd be super close friends.
Tbh I don't see Nancy really wanting to stick around with the Hawkins crew more than exchanging holiday cards and maybe a wedding or big event or something. It'd be nice for her to have people she knows she can rely on, but her goals are so much bigger than that and she'd want to get away and move on, especially if it was for sure over and done. She wants a lot more than Hawkins, and canonically only stays in contact with people involved with the Upside Down if they're dating her or related to her. I know we love to make everyone happy friends big found family but in canon...I don't think Nancy is really looking back at her hometown once she leaves for uni.
I don't think I can even picture Robin having a crush on her in anything other than "pretty badass girl appreciation" way because knowing thabout the st/ncy breakup would probably kill any butterflies before they hatch for Robin.
She couldn't do that to Steve. She couldn't do that to herself! I've seen people complain that a lot of the... not criticism but reasoning for not liking r0nance makes it about Steve so here's this. Robin wouldn't like Nancy not only because of all the Steve stuff, but because they simply do not vibe romantically.
Robin needs someone who will be able to smile and shrug off some of her rants or rambles or even find them endearing. Nancy needs to be alone for a while but in a partner someone is able to push back against her to challenge her and encourage her to her ambitions (this is something with Nancy robin I think would struggle with, with how Nancy was dismissive of Robin and her ideas, which might lead to insecurity for Robin) Robin is involved with people from the Upside Down, she's best friends with Steve, she obviously is familiar with Dustin and Erica and possibly Max. Nancy wanting distance from that aspect of her life wouldn't gel with the company Robin keeps.
I also think not wanting to risk hurting your friend or ruining your relationship with your best friend over a crush is completly legitimate reason for not pursuing a relationship (romo or not) of any kind. Like. jeez. God forbid you care what about your friends feel. It's frustrating when people treat that like it's a stupid reason when it's not!!
Robin wouldn't date Nancy because it may not ruin her relationship with Steve from Steve's side, but from hers. It'd make her question herself and what kind of friend she is. Would she want Steve to date an ex of hers that broke her heart? Even if she blamed herself for it? She wouldn't. Does she think Steve would ever do that? absolutely not, because Steve doesn't want to even risk hurting her. She values her friendship with Steve way more than a crush or a potential girlfriend. She's confident in their relationship far more than a fledgling romantic relationship. She doesn't want to even risk the chance of losing Steve, regardless if he says he's okay with her dating Nancy. Robin doesn't want to be the person who puts romance before her best friend, because she adores Steve, he's her person, they want to combine, and she knows Steve would never do that to her. It's Robin's choice! And I believe she would choose Steve.
Also, this one point is about shippers, it's sorta...super frustrating when so much of the reasoning of people wanting it to be canon prioritizes Nancy. Even when they try to make it about Robin it's about Nancy because it seems like they just. ignore that Robin's best friend is Steve, and that Nancy was annoyed by Robin rambling and being a bit Weird. different interpretations I guess but Nancy was jealous of Robin because of her closeness to Steve and also found her annoying! they got closer in the end and Nancy definitely respected her for the rant in the office, but she would still find those traits annoying. A lot of these points come from viewing r//ance as a potential canon ship when...it's not. (I think it is legitimately so hindering that a lot of shipping is about it being canon or whatever when no? it's just fun to explore a dynamic between characters! which is also why I don't get romo r//nce bc I think they'd have a really weird and kinda awkward relationship. which is fun and neat to explore even if it's messy!)
but still, it wouldn't happen in canon and that's fine!! it's okay to like fanon content! not everything has to be canon. and it's frustrating when people insist on there being a strong possibility of canon r//ance when there isn't. That's not a bad thing! It's just a thing! I'm sorry but based on what is going on with Robin and Vickie very likely being either in a relationship or on the cusp of one in s5, and everything going on between Nancy, jon, and Steve, there's no room for it. It wouldn't make sense to shoehorn it in when Vickie is literally Right There and smiling and enjoying being around Robin more than we saw Nancy being.
People doing this also insist it'd be good for Robin when really they just don't want Nancy to be with Steve or Jonathan and it's like yeah neither do I. I think Nancy should be single. Don't put that shit on Robin. Having them get together at the end is just not allowing Nancy time to be single and find herself and explore the big wide world, and not be tied to Hawkins. Nancy deserves a big post grad adventure without worrying about the upside down.
Let Robin have a cute redhead girlfriend who understands that sometimes she cannot stop her mouth but thinks she's funny and knows that she's gonna sometimes be Very Weird with Steve. Just because a character was created to be a love interest doesn't mean they cannot be interesting. Look at our boy Steve! He was initially supposed to be Nancy's jerk boyfriend who dies and look at him now. :')
Also. It'd be sooooo weird for Nancy there. Steve's her ex! Her gf being best friends with her ex would be weird for her!
and the argument that Vickie is boring is...like ok. more than one person is allowed to ramble when a bit fluster but okay. then so is Barb. She was also barely there. so is tommy. like. people are allowed to not like characters or like ships or whatever. But c'mon. Cut the girl some slack!
Vickie is an eveasdropper who wants to barg into stobin's weird thing. I believe she returned fast times stopped at fifty three minutes and whatever seconds on purpose to suss out if Robin got it. She got so distracted by complaining about her ex she over peanut butter two slices of bread. She thinks Steve is funny. She's a bit of a freak and I think if we continue to see more of her she'll fit nicely with stobin!
Literally I only think R0nance would potentially date in an au where steve and nancy never dated and robin and nancy did instead in a first teenage loves kind of way, but ended up being too different and prioritizing contrasting or conflicting things and realizing that they don't work as a couple. Like. Even there it doesn't really make sense to me? I mean I'm writing the post o66 au with that, the first teenage love r//ance because I do think that, given the right circumstances they would potentially fall in love. But I don't think it would last long term. They're too different about too many things to be compatible I guess.
Anyways yeah I can't vibe with Romo ships that have to disregard or ignore key factors of characters or their deep and loving platonic friendships with others. Sorry I wrote so much about this it probably makes no sense. Peace and love and remember stobin are platonic soulmates who are each other's number ones :)
#steve harrington#robin buckley#vickie stranger things#anti ronance#anti stancy#i guess? listen i didnt mean for this to be this way i just have lots of overlalping thoughts#and its late and im tired and i hate when people treat robin caring about steves feeling and wanting to avoid hurting him#as something inherently... idk. wrong? inserting a man in wlw relationships when. its just being kind to your friend.#plus robin made her relationships about steve long before fhey were friends so not out of character this time its because she loves him tho#findaanswers#anonasaurus#its not even thst i hate the ships i can and do enjoy a stancy fic once in a while its just. i love stobin most#and when romo ships are prioritized over their friendship i get annoyed. and rnce is a frequent perpetrator of this#finda's rambles#i also prefer canon divergent fics so in those for me rnce doesnt work off the bat. other idk i simply dont vibe with it#nancy wheeler#stobin#stranger things#stranger things meta
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master-list of arospec labels and microlabels
I like collecting knowledge of a lot of queer labels,arospec ones being no exception,so I'm doing a big post with all the ones I know, for fun and because it could be helpful for questioning folks out there!
all under the cut!
Aromantic: someone who experiences little to no romantic attraction, experiences it very rarely/vaguely, or otherwise has a significantly different/complicated experience with romantic attraction than most (alloromantic) people. It is a spectrum and anyone on it can simply call themselves aro if they want.
Greyromantic: someone who experiences (or has experienced) romantic attraction, but vaguely and/or rarely.
Demiromantic: someone who experiences romantic attraction only in the specific circumstance that they're really close with that person (or people), they do not experience "love at first sight."
Frayromantic: the opposite of demiromantic, someone who only experiences romantic attraction towards someone they're not close with, and if they ever get to know that person (or people) better,the attraction eventually fades.
Lithromantic: someone who can experience romantic attraction,but if that attraction is ever reciprocated, then the feeling abruptly (or slowly) stops.
Aroflux: someone whose romantic attraction can fluctuate, and is never really static, meaning their (romantic) feelings for someone may change every now and then, fading and intensifying over time.
Cupioromantic: someone who doesn't experience romantic relationship, but wants or has a romantic relationship.
Aegoromantic: someone who doesn't experience romantic attraction,but likes things that are "romantic" (movies,books,aesthetics,etc)
Non-sam aro: An aromantic person who doesn't use the split attraction model, they are "just aro"
AlloAro: an aromantic person who experiences sexual attraction.
Aroace/Arose: an aromantic person who is also asexual/in the ace spectrum.
Apothiromantic: someone who doesn't experience romantic attraction and is repulsed by romantic things and/or acts.
Quoiromantic: someone who doesn't understand what romantic attraction is,doesn't think the term "romantic attraction" is applicable to their experiences at all,or someone who doesn't think defining whether or not they experience romantic attraction is useful or important for them.
Bellusromantic: someone who doesn't experience romantic attraction but enjoys things that are typically seen as romantic acts (kissing,cuddling,etc)
Arospike: someone who usually doesn't experience romantic attraction, but occasionally experiences a sudden rise of attraction, before it eventually fades again.
Nebularomantic: someone who is aromantic because of their neurodivergency or their neurodivergency plays a big role in how they experience their aromanticism.
Reciproromantic: someone who doesn't experience romantic attraction unless the person falls in love with them first.
Alicoromantic: someone who knows they're on the aromantic spectrum but doesn't think any other label fits their experience.
Orchidromantic: the opposite of cupioromantic, someone who experiences romantic attraction but doesn't want a romantic relationship.
Myrromantic: someone who identifies with multiple aromantic spectrum labels at the same time.
Uniromantic: someone who only experiences romantic attraction to one (1) person for a long period of time, and this attraction is never felt for anyone else.
Platoniromantic: someone who can't distinguish between romantic and platonic attraction, therefore can't really say if what they're feeling for someone is romantic or platonic.
Caedromantic: someone who is aromantic because of their trauma.
Idemromantic: someone who doesn't experience romantic and platonic attraction differently, but can distinguish between their "platonic" and "romantic" relationships based on external factors.
Romo aro: an aromantic person whose attraction,experiences,or feeling may be considered romantic in some sort of way.
Loveless aro: an aromantic person who doesn't label any of their feelings as "love", sometimes because the word "love" is usually used to indicate romance and they want to avoid that, because the word doesn't have any meaning to them,as an act of rebellion against amatonormativity,etc.
Lovequeer aro: an aromantic person who chooses to center other types of love who are often seen as "less" than romantic love and/or their unique personal experience with these other types of love.
#aromantic#arospec#aspec#queer#aro#greyromantic#demiromantic#cupioromantic#loveless aro#lovequeer aro#+ a loooot more#raysaystuff
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hi there!!! my name is almond (he/him), this is an aromantic positivity blog ive decided to make
i am aroace and while i do think that theres a severe lack of ace, aroace and aspec representation and education as a whole i feel like aromantics especially lack representation. this blog is a way for me to show more aro pride and make myself (and hopefully other aros) feel happier and more recognized!!! 💚🤍🩶🖤
this is intended to be a safe space for all aros - loveless aros, arospecs, alloaros, aroaces, questioning aros, romo repulsed aros, aros in romantic relationships, aros who want romantic relationships, everything else and all in between <3 i will not tolerate ANY aphobia on this blog whatsoever!! aphobes will be blocked immediately
proship/comship will also be blocked on sight
More about me/this blog under cut
About this blog
i plan on posting about a lot of stuff on this blog regarding aromanticism! i imagine ill mainly be reblogging posts, though i may make my own positivity posts, character headcanons, flag icons, art, etc.
my askbox is open for anything!! questions about aromanticism, your own experiences, your own headcanons, requests for flag icons, silly comments, etc :] although im not great at answering asks in a timely manner i will try to answer every ask to the best of my ability!
(for flag icon requests: only requests for flags under the aromantic umbrella will be used, sorry!! a combination is fine though (for example: alloaro/lesbian, aroace/gay/trans, aro/bi and the like are all acceptable as long as it still includes some sort of arospec flag). no real people, no fandom blacklist. if im not comfortable with it i wont answer the ask)
About me
as stated before, i am aroace :] sex repulsed ace and.... confused with romance. ive had a very complicated relationship with my aromanticism and went through a LOT of denial, though after learning more about what aromanticism really means, im prouder than ever to say im aro. which is part of why i made this blog! i hope that through sharing my experiences and positivity i can also help some fellow aros who struggle with their identities<33
i am also in a romantic relationship with another aroace person. neither of us know what the fuck romance is but we love each other and i think its great<3 i love my partner in a way that im not sure is romantic but is nevertheless deep and meaningful. our love is romantic but also not but also very romantic see.
why luigi? ummm. i like luigi and hes green
my other blogs if youre interested:
@walnutcookie (fandom/personal blog)
@two-trucks (mainly reblogs)
tagging system:
#my posts - posts that are made by me, not reblogs of others
#💚 icons - flag icons ive made
#💚 colorpicked - colorpicked flags ive done
#💚 requests - requests ive done (icons, colorpicking, etc)
#💚 talking - my own text posts
#💚 asks - replying to asks
#💚 submissions - submissions from others
#💚 art - my own art
#aro#aromantic#aromantic positivity#aro positivity#aromanticism#aroace#💚 icons#💚 colorpicked#💚 requests#💚 talking#💚 asks#💚 submissions#💚 art#my posts
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Labels are so weird sometimes
I don't identify as a guy at all, I consider myself somewhere in between male and female and I love that, I like being between. But at the same time, I want people to perceive me as a guy. A guy who wears makeup and and jewelry and skirts sometimes and heels. But I want people to perceive me as a girl who wears punk clothes and suits and ties and graphic eye liner and boxy clothes.
I never want someone to call me a girl, I usually don't want someone to call me a guy.
I don't consider myself nonbinary, or agender, or genderfluid, or any other identity between male and female. But I don't consider myself a trans man or a trans woman or a cis man or woman either. Genderqueer fits a little bit but not enough for me to want to identify as genderqueer.
I'm just, queer.
And that's for all of my identities. Gender and sexuality? Queer, I don't care enough to find a label and I don't want a specific label I just want queer. I have different kinds of relationships with different people, but I don't really want the label polyamorous I'm just queer. I'm on the aroace spectrum, (still trying to figure that out) and that's really the only label I talk about besides queer but even then it's really just online or with people I'm in some sort of relationship with. To anyone else I'm just queer.
I say a lot that "I don't use pronoun, and nothing else matters unless you want to date me or fuck me." All you need to know is I'm queer.
It's kind of weird not having a label at all for anything, especially in a world that's so set on having labels for everything. It's weird just being ambiguous. But not having labels also kind of means I don't feel as connected with people who have the labels that I "should" use.
I don't feel connected with a lot of trans people because the ones I know do have labels. I don't feel connected to trans guys even though I want to be perceived as a guy because I don't consider myself a guy like they do. I don't feel connected to a lot of nonbinary people because yes I'm in between but it feels different than the way a lot of people describe it. I don't connect with agender people because I do have a gender, it's just not really here. I don't feel connected with polyamorous people because my relationships are outside the norms of what polyamory usually is. My relationships don't really feel like a typical relationship, and that's another thing I don't want to label. I don't really label dating or romantic or sexual or queer platonic or soft romo. My relationships just kind of are.
And that's not to say that anyone who feels the same way as me about gender and sexuality shouldn't identify with other people, I think it's wonderful if you do. But I don't and that feels weird.
I just kind of, am. I'm queer. I'm, something. And that's really it.
There wasn't really a point to this, I just wanted to talk about it.
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the way people ship riz despite him being a romance-repulsed aroace… frankly it gives ‘you haven’t met the right person yet’…
Oh yeah, I mean his worst fear is a "romance partner" who tells him he's different to everyone he loves because he doesn't want relationships and they're all gonna find someone more important to them and then people are like "hm....pretty Romo vibes to me....I think I'll pair him off with someone"
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is dune a lentil bean. does she like women
yes i could only see her being with a fellow lesbian (sorry if any of her simps arent lesbians) but i also need to add onto this that i dont think she would ever find a relationship because
1. she would suck ass at it and 100% be controlling and manipulative and lie and be a terrible freak about everything. she also wouldnt date you if you werent up to murdering strangers obviously
2. they (by they i mean all the iterators every single one no exception) dont have any karma 2 drive or the capability of feeling those ways in any form so TECHNICALLYYYYYY the right term for her would be homoromantic????? i guess???????? didnt find a widely accepted lesbian-specific version. the right terms for all of them would technically just be the romo ones but whatver whtvr
3. every single member of her group is her younger sibling and she murders every single stranger she runs into (disregarding the very rare exception), so the dating pool is pretty much dry lmao
but yes the easy answer is yes shes a lentil bean who like women
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