#bruce wayne is carrie kelley's parent

[internetgiraffekid1673]

Did you know you can move onto other brainrots and STILL be stuck brainrotting on the old thing too? My brain is a decaying piece of wood that has become an essential breeding ground for several species of rot. One of them is still the BatFam variety, so onto the next member!

Initial traces of Carrie Kelley, my child! Be honest, how many of you who have seen the Nightwing and Red Hood posts thought that I was doing Tim next? Well HA! Joke’s on you, I make the rules here! I have a very specific order in my head, and I will stick to that order!

Carrie is technically an elseworld’s Robin from The Dark Knight Returns, but Robin is my favorite superhero, and anyone who has been Robin will get my attention (yes Robin. Not Batman or Nightwing or any of the individual characters who have been Robins. Robin as a hero, regardless of who it is, is my favorite). At this point, she’s actually graduated to Catgirl and then her own iteration of Batwoman, but in my head, she’s the same age as Damian or younger, so she gets to stay Robin in my art for a bit.

I did two traces here because, unlike other Batfam characters, Carrie is in so few comics that I can’t just FIND a perfect, full body action pose from an angle that I like. The first trace is by far the most popular and easy to find picture of her, but it has her hair blowing around in the wind. This is a Problem, you see, because Carrie’s hair is a special challenge for me. In The Dark Knight Returns, she has this very distinctive hair shape that I do not like looking at OR drawing. So I knew the pose I used for my reference was going to need to be a pose where I could update her hairstyle. But, I also needed a full body, and that first photo is iconic, so two for the price of one again.

Stylization time! Carrie was honestly really easy to stylize, her hair is just a bit of a nightmare for me. I finally got a handle on it after the complete project, but it took a WHILE! Anyway, I more or less just lifted her updated hairstyle from her Batwoman costume and some cosplayers. And no, I’m not giving her pants. Damian and Tim are edgy Robins, they can have pants. Dick, Jason, and Carrie are not edgy Robins, so they get short shorts. I did give up on coloring her sleeves green. Too much of one color for me to effectively handle when her gloves overlap her sleeves. Also, I need to draw more characters with capes. They’re so fun to draw!

Characterization pose! In the comics, Carrie wears her goggles as a civilian too. I interpret this as her needing glasses, so I gave her regular glasses instead because wearing the same distinctive goggles you wear as a superhero is maybe not the best way to keep your identity secret. Comics Carrie has like one friend that you don’t see after she puts on the costume, and her parents don’t remember they have a kid, so it’s not like she has a whole lot of people to be hiding her identity from, but it’s the thought that counts. Schoolmates and random civilians and nosy reporters and all that.

I put her in a Girl Scout uniform for her civvy outfit because I think that it’s important to her character. The whole reason Batman took her on was because she was 1) crazy/traumatized/determined enough to buy herself a Robin costume, fight petty crime on her own, and follow him into dangerous situations and 2) used her Girl Scout first aid training to save batman’s life and splint his arm after he got his sh*t rocked in an ill-advised fight. I figured a salute, even if it’s a bit of a sassy one, was a good pose for her not just because of this, but also because The Dark Knight Returns is a very depressing comic, and so Batman calls her “good soldier.”

If you saw the first two posts, you may notice that I did not trace the hero text for this one, and that I used the same font for both names. This is because 1) I didn’t feel like the regular Robin font with the spiky R fits Carrie’s vibe, but she doesn’t have any comics covers of her own I can steal from and 2) I feel like Carrie’s personality is the same as Robin and Carrie. Unlike with almost everyone else, there’s no posturing, no distinction, no divide there. So the same font works for both personas.

Nightwing Edition

Red Hood Edition

[wesavegotham]

Sometimes you just look at something and it gets worse with every second you think about it.

[incorrectbatfam]

What your LEAST favorite batfam member says about you

Dick Grayson: You think life is over and people become shriveled-up hags at 30

Jason Todd: You're an Arrowfam stan

Tim Drake: Your favorite Robin is either Jason or Damian

Damian Wayne: You call children "crotch goblins"

Duke Thomas: You own something from your childhood that would be worth a lot of money now had you not taken it out of the original packing

Cullen Row: You've spent a lot of your early teens struggling to accept your identity and in doing so behaved like a douche on Roblox

Stephanie Brown: You created a TikTok to make fun of TikTokers but that doesn't change the fact that you're still on TikTok

Cassandra Cain: You were weirded out by the alt kids in school only to realize later in life they had more courage than you by expressing themselves without caring about what others think

Barbara Gordon: You had a college reading level in 6th grade that stopped mattering once you entered college where everyone was the same as you and you're still salty about it

Harper Row: Your parents didn't let you dye your hair

Carrie Kelley: You had an unhealthy relationship with a stranger on Discord where you learned the meaning of gaslighting firsthand

Kate Kane: You didn't like the Barbie movie

Helena Bertinelli: You had a crush on someone who was way out of your league but took a shot anyway and they rejected you and now every time you see someone pretty you seethe with envy

Luke Fox: You think you can take a grizzly bear in a fight when your only hobby is watching Twitch streamers and eating cool ranch Doritos

Bette Kane: You had a Wattpad Mary Sue self-insert who had all the members of One Direction falling for her and was a vampire wizard demigod that won the Hunger Games but that's a secret you plan on taking to your grave

Alfred Pennyworth: Britain fucked over your country

Selina Kyle: You know a lot about sex for someone who hasn't even gone on a date

Bruce Wayne: You stand by your guns when you say eat the rich and don't make exceptions for the "wholesome" billionaires

[likeiknoworsmthin]

HC, Bruce is in an On/off (if we're on the same geography location) relationship with Selina and Khoa (each independent from the other) and they're free to pursue other people in the meanwhile, so the bat kids are just wanting to hook up Bruce with Clark and Diana to get ride of Khoa towards the years

Dick "I'm fine with the multiple partners cycle and the on/off relationships, all cool, but I draw the line at fuckin Minhkhoa Khan." Grayson.

Dick (12yo): Supes would be a good boyfriend? don't you think? So nice and gentle, so much better than that bet-asshole.

Bruce: Lenguaje. And Clark is already in a relationship, ¿I thought you like Miss Lane?

Dick: Yeah, but she's a girl. He doesn't have any boyfriend, and you could get him, will be fun.

Bruce: *Horrified at what he has done to Dick's concept of relationships* Most people just have one partner at a time like your parent...

Dick "Circus kid": ¡Ja! You should come up with something better, nobody does that, my parents used to kiss other people all the time.

Bruce: *refrains the urge to facepalm. Of course. And of course, thinking about his family, he has no one to use as an example* I'm really not making this up, most people date a person at a time. Besides, I think he's straight.

Dick: *confused* That doesn't even make sense!

Bruce: It means that he does not feel attracted to men. At all. I'm serious, Dick, don't bother him.

Dick: *snorts* Yeah, sure, B. *Wanders off of the bat cave*

A few weeks later, being baby-sat by Clark.

Dick: So... I heard a rumour

Clark: ¿Yeah? ¿Something you want to share?

Dick: Is it true that you only date a person at a time or is just for one of each.

Clark: *FLUSTERED, too flustered to function* ¿Wha-...?

Dick: yeah so you can have a boyfriend ¿Right? Or aunty Lo is in a relationship with Clark, ¿No? So ¿Superman can have a boyfriend? B does that sometimes.

[Clark.exe stop working.]

Later Clark's going to yell at Bruce for what kind of dive he's raising a poor kid in. ¿What the hell is he taught him with all his "playboy" thing? Poor kid will be traumatized...

Jason "My father is a cheater and my mom has to sell herself for her dose. ¿What even is monogamy" Todd.

Jay(13): So you like cats? *Just after a very dramatic fight between Diana and Cheetah, while Jason is visiting for the new museum exhibit*

Diana: .... *Utterly confused* Yes, of course.

Jay: Not to rain in your parade, but that cat-lady is too... Unique for you. Don't cha'? Should try the Gotham, flavor, she's classy and include a bonus bat.

Diana: *Holding laughter* I didn't mean it like that.

Jay: Yeah, sure, keep telling ya that. *Stops here, but tries to bouch for Bruce and Selina every chance he has. Diana is too amused.*

Casandra "My parents didn't even teach me how to talk, not even mention what a "normal" relationship is like" Cain.

Cass (15): *Shoves the three of them under a mistletoe in a holiday Wayne gala (It's Bruce's gala, Clark is working and Diana is a guest)* Now, Kiss.

Tim "My parents each have multiple lovers outside marriage" Drake.

Tim (14): *pulls a power point* ¿Have you ever heard the benefits included in date The Bat? Could be a interesting offer for you both. First of all, money will not be a problem anymore....

Clark *fresh out divorced and forced to confront that he is, in fact, NOT straight and his "brotherly love" for his best friends has nothing of brotherly in it"

Diana: *Remember when Jason used to try to pull this out, so she's a little nostalgic and very amused*

Steph "Actually I have a good basis but my dad is an asshole and monogamy never did nothing for my mother" Brown

Steph (15): So, you're kissing with the boss

Clark: No...

Steph: then you should.

Clark: I...

Steph: ¿Why no? You're a cute couple.

Clark: ¡We're not...!!

Steph: c'mon, just a kiss...

Carrie "My parents are monogamous but I don't know them enough to make an affirmation about it" Kelley.

Carrie (16): So, Boss ¿When are you going to stop your stubbornness and admit that you want to eat their faces?

Bruce: That's very crude and I don't.

Carrie: then you want them to eat your face. Tomate tomato.

[rowenllyn]

Batfam meets Carrie Kelley

Ok, I need the main timeline Batfam to meet Carrie Kelley.

And not in a writers just throw all the different timeline robins into one family, or a crack social media fic. I need proper post-Dark Knight Returns Carrie to universe travel or something and meet this Bruce Wayne and his family. Like, her life is wild. She is a pre-Tim Robin. She got introduced before Jason died?! Her characterisation is built up off Dick, off the original concept of Robin, as a symbol and nothing more, not really a mantle, but an idea. She is a whole different kettle of fish from the modern Batfam and modern interpretation and retconning and rewriting of the Robins, the Robin mantle and the Batfam, not even getting into the fact she's from the 80s. She actively lives in the 80s, like Reagan is president, modern technology is non existent and all that.

Like, from an outside perspective, Carrie's Robin is the leader of a guerrilla paramilitary Batman cult and vigilante organisation, with hundreds of "Sons of Batman". And sure, Bruce is behind the scenes, teaching and truly organising, being supported by pirate-coded, one-armed Oliver, but no one else knows that. To the outside world? Carrie's the big boss. And she's this tiny little pipsqueak in scaly shorts who just so happens to swear like a sailor or a goon on Gotham Docks. It's hilarious. The Batfam would be so confused and concerned about this girl. She has almost no training before going out, she literally got boot-camped in the like 2 weeks Bruce had between meeting her for the first time, where she proceeded to jump in the batmobile, set his arm and sass him, and him then having to go fight Superman and have a heart attack and fake his death.

And that's the other part! They would lose their mind about what the hell is going on in her world?? Vigilantism got outlawed?! People got forced to retire, leave the planet/country or face consequences. Oliver lost an arm?? Clark is an arm of the United States forces, acting as an attack dog pointed wherever Reagan wants?? They fought and Bruce had a heart attack and died?! Well he didn't stay dead, which is actually in character, but what the fuck Carrie?? And I just need her to be so nonchalant about everything that happened to her but also absolutely amazed by the technology and how many family members Bruce has. Also, seeing Bruce young is wild. She only knows old man grump Bruce, the true I work alone Batman. Seeing this Bruce and his family would be wild to her.

Also, the way that she would react to Bruce would be so interesting. Cause all of his kids are in fact his kids, yeah, even Steph to some extent, but Carrie? She's his Robin first, his student second. And his child never. Can you imagine the "good soldier" conversation? Whether that be her mentioning him saying it to her or her finding Jason's plaque (which by the way was Alfred's doing, which adds so many more layers to it) and being all like, awww it's lovely. And everyone else is horrified, including Bruce, cause he's realised that that is not how he should compliment his children and that is not a healthy means of declaration of care. But for Carrie that is true and it is what she is and she appreciates it. Because she is not his kid, and I don't think she really wants to be, she has parents, though they clearly don't pay too close attention to her if she's able to jump out windows and fight crime regularly, but she still has existing parents that fill that position in her life and Bruce is much more a martial arts sensei or a favourite strict teacher to her.

Like, she cares about the dude and all, but when they're sat around and Dick or one of the family members starts prodding Bruce about feelings and his personal life or whatever, she gets awkward, cause that's not her business. That's like seeing your teacher at the supermarket. She sees Bruce in the cave, during training and when he's giving advice, he's not a real person with a life, he's an NPC in her life, she jokes that he already fulfilled his dead sensei anime plot device when he faked his death for Superman, so now she sometimes ignores him when he's being pigheaded and pretends he's a ghost. BUT! That would be so confusing for the Batfam, cause yeah, he's their teacher too, their trainer and mentor, but he's also a parental figure in their lives, there's more to him and how they perceive him and having one without the other would confuse them so much. So when they see she's awkward about him being emotionally open they take it as a sign that they need to try hard and bring her into the fold, teach her how to get her Bruce to open up and she's just fully like, nuh huh, absolutely not, I don't wanna know any of that.

I just really want Carrie to be explored more in canon and in the fandom, beyond just an easter egg appearance, she's so interesting and so underexplored.

[to-the-stars8]

Warnings: Mention of suicidal thoughts

So, anyone who wants to hear it, here’s how I think the story of Batman and all of his Robins should have gone in terms of just writing it like it was story. Mind you, most of the basic elements of the Robin's backstory are gonna obviously be in here, just fyi if you just see things that you already know. I am would love to hear what you guys think, too!

Now, quick disclaimer, I’m just going to go with the four main robins only because I know them best— other robins such as Carrie Kelley or Stephanie Brown I’m not as familiar with. I hope to one day to also extend this to other sidekick/people Batman works with, but that’ll be a separate post. Anyway, one more warning; this will be long. 

Starting off with the death of Dick Grayson’s parents. Bruce sees them die, and instantly makes the connection between himself and newly orphaned Dick Grayson. It's one of the main reasons why Bruce takes him in. After all, he was once a boy so riddled by trauma and pain that he thought (at least in the beginning of being Batman) that violence and vengeance was the only answer. So, when Bruce adopts Dick, he doesn't want him to go down the same path. This is where I want to the conflict between Bruce trying to be not only a better person for Dick, but to also attempt to hold onto the feelings that drive his vengeance. Because, the way I would write it, Bruce is still pretty new at being Batman, he hasn't yet realized his "mission" isn't just getting his revenge on Gotham's criminals—It's creating a better life for the people there so they, too, wouldn't have to go through what he did. Though, another small disclaimer, I'll admit that I am missing a few pieces there.

Back to the main topic, if I lose you at all blame the ADHD, so Dick comes to Wayne Manor where he's angry at the world for what happened to his parents. Bruce, who is probably in his mid-twenties at this point, has no clue how to be a parent. He doesn't want to overstep his boundaries with Dick, but the boy is increasingly becoming angrier and angrier. The idea of Dick becoming anything like Bruce, in terms of being Batman, doesn't cross his mind because, unlike some DC writers, I don't think Bruce was actively looking for child soldiers.

Anyway, there is already the underlying push and pull factor between the two, which I think will probably define the rest of their relationship. And, like mentioned before, this is where I would want Bruce to try to be a better Batman, relying not on violence because he can see how it's affects others.

To further explain in a round-a-bout way, young Dick and Bruce are essentially mirrors of each other. And, I don't think Bruce entirely approves of how he, meaning Bruce himself, acts. Hence, why he begins to change Batman from a vengeful, violent vigilante (say that five times fast) to a hopeful knight of Gotham. Dick is his driving force of change, as well as the other Robins. So, when Bruce finally realized that Dick won't simply stand by and be the little boy that he should be—He gives him a chance to be something better than Batman. To begin his career as a vigilante as a hero with hope rather than rage. He's reluctant to do it, because he loves Dick. (Granted, Dick Grayson's Robin is absolutely filled with rage, but, in my story, Bruce is trying to lead from example)

And, just to move through the rest of it quickly so this isn't the same word count as the fucking constitution, as Dick grows so does Bruce. Batman is hopeful, and Bruce is gaining a family. Granted, it's small, but it's there. Along the way, he makes friends. Dick is the reason for this, though some credit can be given to Bruce himself. Despite being angry, Dick will always be outgoing, it's one of the best traits his parents passed onto him—And, he passes that along to Bruce. He begins to learn how a family functions, even if it's a hint of it. he is starting to realize there is more beyond the mask.

So, when the relationship between them starts to break down I would want to see that opposite reaction in the other relationships around Bruce. Because, before Dick, it was isolation, facade, anger, and Batman. Now, when he leaves, it's just that again.

I want to see this internal struggle between Dick letting Bruce be his father and letting him be his partner. Because, despite being similar, one holds more resent than the other. Dick can't stand that Bruce is trying to parent him because he had family, and now they were gone. He doesn't want to have a replacement family nor does he want to lose it again. With Batman, there comes the difference between ideologies. As Bruce strays away from untethered violence into something a bit more calmer, Dick is still filled with that same anger, causing a clash.

Eventually, it hits a breaking point when Bruce takes away the one thing that Dick himself created, the rope in their game of tug of war breaks. Dick leaves, Bruce isolates, and it seems that Gotham once again dissolves back to how it used to be.

Then, Bruce meets Jason. And, it's not like with Dick. It's different. Jason wasn't filled with anger or lost hope, he was a happy, hopeful kid. He wanted to be a kid, and Robin just happened to be a good fit for him, too. So, this is really when Bruce becomes Bruce not Batman. Bruce had gotten the taste of that with Dick, but Batman always seemed to have some tug in their relationship. At this point, I want to see Bruce realize just how much that affected his relationship with Dick and feel the remorse over that. I would want to see Bruce reach out to his eldest son, and be rejected because Dick is still wounded. In fact, Dick himself, despite legally being an adult, is a kid. He's hurt over Bruce essentially replacing, in his eyes, and finding a "better" son. This drives in harder the idea of Bruce wanting to not stop being Batman, but put more of an effort of just being Dad/Bruce. Again, Bruce is learning.

Back to Jason. Jason, in this story, would be one of the first Robins to really experience Bruce as a father. And, that turns the relationship of Batman and Robin less into a partnership and more into a father-son duo without one trying to control the other as much. Yet, there's still the distinction of just how different Jason is compared to Dick and Bruce. Jason never had a family, not a stable one at least, nor did he grow up financially stable. Jason was essentially the average poor Gotham kid, which did kick up a lot of backlash between the two. Yet, nothing too serious. In fact, I feel like Bruce would probably start being a lot more lenient with Jason at the beginning with just how easy he was as not just a sidekick but as a son.

And this is what I believe would lead to Jason leaning more into his violent tendencies compared to Dick. Now, before the torches do light, hear me out. I do not think Jason is an outwardly or inherently a violent kid. I think with the innate sense of justice Bruce would instill all of his Robins combined with being exposed to violence socially and now personally, it would lead to Jason seeing some flaws in Batman's logic. He might sense that since one person continuously abuses the system and gets away with hurting/murdering people that it might be better to eliminate the problem all together. This idea growing on Jason would lead to the death of Felipe, causing a huge and sudden rift between the two. Ultimately leading to Jason being kidnapped, tortured and killed all in pursuit of finding someone who might accept him despite Bruce never having rejected for what he did.

Eventually, after Jason died Bruce is in this hole of regret, remorse, and overall probably a bit suicidal. Afterall, he lost his son and feels like because he let Robin be that it caused Jason's death. So, when Dick re-enters the picture with Tim Drake, a boy finding and wanting to be Robin, I can see Bruce absolutely lashing out in grieving anger. Because, again being Robin had killed his son and he would be damned if that happened again. Yet, Tim being Tim was determined to show Bruce that it wasn't him or Robin that killed Jason—It was a mad man and a woman who deceived her son. Kind of playing into the idea it's not Robin who makes the boy, it's the boy who makes Robin. Not only that, but Tim is adamant that he will be Robin to not only prove this but also to show that Robin and Batman are two sides of the same coin. Ultimately, reverting back to Batman and Robin being a partnership instead of that father-son duo. At least, at first.

Bruce is protective of Tim, but there is definitely the drift in their relationship. Because, as we all know Tim's story, he still had parents when he became Robin so there was no need to fill that son position, for the lack of a better term, Jason had left behind. So, in a sense, I can see this relationship between the two starting off more like a boss and worker. Yet, as they continue to work together, Bruce would probably learn that Tim is making Robin, not the other way around. At this point, also, I can see Dick be more involved and bridge that gap with his father after seeing just how deeply he cares for his children.

Then, Tim's parents are murdered and I think the guilt would come back to Bruce, albeit a bit less extreme. He would feel responsible for putting this child in this situation and want to take him out of that. Yet, Tim is pushing against not only as a partner but as a potential son that which would definitely affect their relationship. This is why I personally would think that Tim and Bruce's relationship would be the most strained out of all of the Robins, though the two do share a deep connection it's just not as serious, again lack of a good term, as the other's.

Because I'm slowly getting more tired, I am going to try my best to get through Damian's. Again, guys, feel free to ask questions because this is just surface level stuff. If anyone makes it to this point, anyway or even reads this lol.

Alright, so just jumping into Damian, I think Bruce would treat Damian as he would have Jason. Unlike all the other Robins there's already a establish connection between the two before they even meet. I mean, Damian is literally his bio son and Damian is told that all throughout his life, so it would be a more of a one-sided connection at first then it grow on Bruce. Damian doesn't need training unlike all of his other predecessor's, the boy's already pre-programmed with skill. The major issue would be honing in on the assassination part of Damian and essentially Bruce's trauma from his other children.

So, right from the gate, I think Bruce would try to be a father to his Damian rather just Batman. And, I think Damian, at first, would not respond well to that. For his whole life, it's just been fight or die, nothing in-between. I think it would be interesting to see Bruce fall back into being a father, which, at this point, he already would have been since Dick returned and Tim and him slowly got closer. I think Bruce would be tougher on Damian simply because of how worried he would be for his safety and well-being. Bruce knows the League of Assassins and how it is absolutely no place for a young boy. So, Bruce would try to create normalcy like he did with Jason, but also be tough like he was on Dick. Overall, I think there's the same push and pull with them like with Bruce and Dick, but not to the extent as it was. After all, I would like to think at this point, Alfred convinced Bruce to go to therapy. Though, it can be said the two would also share a close personal relationship like Jason and Bruce.

I would go on, but, right now, I have a huge headache, so might edit later.

That's pretty much it guys. I know there might be some contradictions in this, but, to be fairly honest, this is just a streamline of thought. I think I read over this once, so any inconsistencies are just left. Please ignore. Or point out. It's pretty much either or. Again, I would love to know what you guys think. Hope you enjoyed this rant. I am going to bed now. ❤️❤️❤️

[ao3feed-brucewayne]

It's not Recruitment It's Desperation

by Mythic_Robyn Gotham city has seen many horrors since its founding. Gang violence, mass murder, attempted genocide at least once, unparalleled drug and human trafficking. Then Thomas and Martha Wayne were shot in an alleyway and everything changed. Even if it took years Bruce Wayne would make sure as few suffered what he did as possible. Doing it alone was, of course, a bad idea. Gotham’s solution was to send kids his way. At first having a prodigy was helpful, then it became two, then three, four, six and before Bruce knew it his mansion of empty rooms was far from empty. Words: 1242, Chapters: 1/10, Language: English Series: Part 5 of Spector's of the Present Fandoms: Danny Phantom, Batman - All Media Types Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Categories: Gen Characters: Bruce Wayne, Stephanie Brown, Cassandra Cain, Tim Drake (DCU), Dick Grayson, Damian Wayne, Barbara Gordon, Carrie Kelley, Jason Todd, Sam Manson, Duke Thomas, Alfred Pennyworth, Jim Gordon (DCU) Relationships: Dick Grayson & Bruce Wayne, Jason Todd & Bruce Wayne, Barbara Gordon & Bruce Wayne, Tim Drake & Bruce Wayne, Bruce Wayne & Damian Wayne, Stephanie Brown & Bruce Wayne, Cassandra Cain & Bruce Wayne, Duke Thomas & Bruce Wayne, Carrie Kelley & Bruce Wayne, Sam Manson & Bruce Wayne, Batfamily Members & Alfred Pennyworth, Batfamily Members & Bruce Wayne, Selina Kyle/Bruce Wayne, Jim Gordon & Gotham City Additional Tags: Ecto-Contaminated | Liminal Sam Manson, Good Parent Bruce Wayne, Bruce Wayne Tries to Be a Good Parent, Batfamily (DCU), Jason Todd is a Batfamily Member, Duke Thomas is a Batfamily Member, Good Sibling Cassandra Cain, Good Sibling Damian Wayne, Ghost Zone Culture (Danny Phantom), Jim Gordon is So Done, Bruce Wayne is Bad at Communicating, Protective Bruce Wayne, Protective Batfamily (DCU), Carrie Kelley is Robin, Sentient Gotham City via https://ift.tt/1LWpFYK

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Happy Hare where have you been? Buried all your children.

read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/74AIWYp by ToastedToad "Alfred," Bruce growled, his voice low and dangerous. "Find them." Alfred bowed his head slightly, a predatory gleam flashing in his eyes. "As you wish, Master Bruce. It will be done." As Alfred vanished back into the shadows, Bruce stood motionless, his heart pounding with a twisted combination of longing and fury. His children had escaped him once. That would not happen again. They would be found. And they would never leave his side again. ----------- aka the Justice League become vampires (focusing on Bruce and Clark) and track down their kids who are on the run to turn them and bring em home. Words: 1428, Chapters: 1/7, Language: English Fandoms: DCU, DCU (Comics), Batman - All Media Types Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings, No Archive Warnings Apply Categories: M/M, Other Characters: Jason Todd, Bruce Wayne, Dick Grayson, Tim Drake (DCU), Damian Wayne, Clark Kent, Kon-El | Conner Kent, Jonathan Kent, Diana (Wonder Woman), Duke Thomas, Barbara Gordon, Stephanie Brown, Carrie Kelley Relationships: Clark Kent/Bruce Wayne, Tim Drake & Bruce Wayne, Tim Drake & Dick Grayson & Jason Todd & Bruce Wayne & Damian Wayne, Bruce Wayne & Damian Wayne Additional Tags: Dark, Alternate Universe - Dark, Angst, Fluff and Angst, Alternate Universe - Vampire, Vampire Turning, Possessive Behavior, Overprotective, Vampire Bruce Wayne, Vampire Clark Kent, Dark Justice League, Dark Found Family, Forced found family, kinda kidnapping, but again theyre their kids sooooo, found family but dark and kinda messed up, dark found family has a death grib on my soul, Dark Bruce Wayne, Dark Clark Kent, semi-bittersweet ending, Bittersweet Ending, Platonic Yandere, Platonic Cuddling, parental yandere, Fledglings, Infantilism, Forced Infantilism, Batfamily (DCU), Batfamily (DCU) Feels, Overprotective Bruce Wayne, Clark Kent is Kon-El | Conner Kent's Parent, Other Additional Tags to Be Added read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/74AIWYp

[jaytodd2]

Brenna Martha Wayne

Face Claim: Gemma Arterton

Secret Identity: Owlette

She’s the female Bruce; a mix of Batman and Owlman. Basically golden age Batman when he first debuted in the Detective Comics, before the no-kill rule.

Never had a robin/talon. Like it’s not that she wouldn’t have taken them in… they just didn’t exist 🤩

Ends up in Batsy’s universe.

A little after Jason comes as the Red Hood but before the reveal.

Our girl is a detective so she scopes the scene first.

Realizes that she doesn’t exist in this world and her parents had a son instead of a daughter.

Puts the pieces together that Jason is RH quicker than anyone. It’s not because she’s one of the world’s greatest detective, but she’s in another universe. Clearly anything can happen including coming back from the dead.

Remember, she’s a bit like Owlman so she doesn’t really care that Jason has became a crime lord. She’s not afraid of teaming up with him either once she gets herself situated.

She uses the name Brenna Martha Van Derm.

The last name comes from her great-great-grandmother on her father’s side.

With her and Jason on the same side so to speak, it’s an easier takeover.

The showdown between Bruce, Joker, and Jason goes somewhat the same yet differently. Jason still gets hit by the batarang, but she puts a bullet in Joker. Maybe five just to be safe.

She and Talia are coparenting Jason!

She joins Halia’s relationship because I am a Hal/Talia shipper. Don’t judge me.

She does start her own company and quickly jumps to billionaire status. The Batfam can’t find anything illegal on her because she and jason are them so its definitely a circle of agitation.

Terry and Matt McGinnis, Drake Winston, Carrie Kelley, Respawn are all taken in by her.

I like to think that they went to Bludhaven after Dick left and set up base there.

Do the Bats eventually find out the truth? Yes, but like it doesn’t change anything. She’s there to stay, and they’ve already gaslit the entire world that Talia’s son Jason Todd Head is not the same Jason Todd-Wayne. It is incredibly rude and disrespectful to the Wayne family to continuously make such baseless accusations.

Ra’s just happy he has The Detective back in his family now. At this point, he doesn’t even care that she’s a woman.

Hal has two badass wives that can kill him with their thighs and knows he needs to marry them as soon as possible. He already has the marriage licenses drafted and will forge their signatures. He does not care.

Damian having a crisis because he already has a mother so she can’t be his mother and she’s the female counterpart of his father but he has a father and things get a lot more confusing when she marries Talia because she’s his new stepmother who’s the counterpart of her father who is her mother’s ex husband. he is going through it.

She joins the Justice League Elite and is a member of the Justice League Queer.

[dotthings]

Episode 2 of Gotham Knights was highly enjoyable. The cast is getting more and more into their groove and I got even more into the story. Appreciation to this series for giving me heists and sword-fighting and found family and angsty Robin feelings.

Misha Collins is bringing the quiet gravitas and sense of authority and goodness, so Harvey Dent (of all people) is the calm rock in the storm. He's giving this ballast. The kids are terrific and I enjoy the chaotic rag tag, having to rely on each other against all odds story for the fugitives but without a gravitas player like Misha to balance, the thing would lack anchoring.

Unsurprised that Cressida is untrustworthy. Although this was so obvious and revealed so early, I'm not completely convinced we know all her loyalties. And does she actually care about Turner? How did Bruce wind up with a COO person in his employ. Did he have a longer game in doing that?

Carrie Kelley is reminding me of the calm, multi-tasking Robins like Dick and Tim. Also her sad little face when confronted with Bruce's Batman things. Navia Robinson is really crushing it in this role. I also enjoy how Carrie went right for grabbing as much bat-gear from his office as she could and when the group was trapped, zip-lined everyone out. Her hiding those journal pages from Turner--she's trying to protect him from something. And she should have just stolen the whole journal, leaving the ragged torn pages alerts Turner that there's something to be found. The fact this was lampshaded in dialogue, so it's not writers being sloppy, so maybe it's meant as Carrie having a lapse in judgment, or maybe Carrie subconsciously wanted Turner to know pages were removed. She's hiding stuff from him but wants him to find out eventually? We'll see where that leads.

That battle Carrie and Turner had with Talon was awesome.

Very interested in Turner's realization that Bruce was in fact training him, preparing him, after all. Was it Bruce going cautiously to teach another Robin, or was it something else? This entire Court of Owls business has me suspicious and Bruce wanted Turner to know sword-fighting. Maybe not Robin training. Maybe self-defense. If the Court of Owls hunted his parents, his grandparents, if the Waynes have been the prey of the Court of Owls for centuries, he wanted Turner prepared. Maybe he was teaching Turner so he could take down the Court of Owls if he fell.

Cullen, Harper, and Duela debating over whether to just skip town -- what's great about that is I felt sympathy for all 3 of their pov's. Cullen caring about others and why he didn't want to abandon his new name. Harper wanting to look after her brother. Duela, in a way, being both right and wrong. The one sane person in the room because seriously, them going back into Wayne Tower was a stupid plan and them getting jailed or dead won't help anything, but Duela's looking out for number one nihilism and eagerness to abandon her allies wasn't the right move either.

And her allies (tentative friends) came to save her and Duela's brain cannot compute. Turner pointing out to her, she's worth saving too.

I am not trusting Brody. He's going a little too hard on the whole "I am so much nicer to you than that guy, Steph. Look how noble I am. As opposed to that loser. Look at all I do for you, Turner asks you for things." Yeahhhh I'm going to stick with Turner. Turner and Steph's friendship is one of the show's anchoring points and I am enjoying it immensely. It's not going to be without its troubles and complications and strains, but Brody's deliberately trying to drive a wedge and that's highly suspicious.

The belfry set continues to be my favorite.

Steph and Turner's rose window meetings give me joy.

[darker-dc-dimensions]

Bruce Thomas Wayne

Fist of Vengeance

Emojis used:♟️🦇

(placeholder image until i find something better)

General Information

First name: Bruce

Middle name(s): Thomas

Surname: Wayne

Age: unknown.

Date of birth: unknown.

Race: Half Jewish from his mother’s side, white on his fathers side.

Gender: Cis Male

Sexuality: Bisexual, leans towards men.

Current residence: None, he travels across universes at will.

Relationship status: Single

Social status: Doesn’t have a specific status as he jumps universes regularly, but in the big picture of everything he’s a very big deal as he’s the fist of Khal (An oc of mine, who is the creator of all magic and existence)

Universe (AU universe of origin): Fist of Vengeance

Traits of Voice

Accent (if any): Has no accent in any language, meaning he speaks languages perfectly.

Language spoken: English, the dead language of magic that only ancient magic beings speak.

Other languages known: Knows all languages, thanks to his magic blessing.

Volume of voice: tends to speak in the growly low batman voice, it’s become his normal voice at this point. His voice tends to have an almost ghost like sound to you, like with how ghost voices sound kinda breathy and nonhuman.

Physical Appearance

Height: 6´2

Eye colour: Purple, think a deeper purple. (thanks to Khal’s magic)

Skin colour: Pale.

Distinguishing features: The large number of scars on his body and the way he carries himself in general. His purple eyes. The magic tattoos on his body. His longer fangs, think like a vampire, and his sharp split tongue.

Build of body: broad and muscular.

Hair colour: Black.

Hair style: Short and ruffled, like he’s just taken his cowl off, which is the case most of the time.

Tattoos: Has magic tattoos all over his body, think magic circles, sigils, and symbols. Has a snake tattoo curled over his heart, think ouroboros (Khal’s symbol).

Piercings: Has a couple but doesn’t wear them.

Typical clothing: Wears his batman suit, which is an updated version of his usual one. It’s got a lot of magic worked into it, and it looks more like knights armour with a longer cape than the normal suit batman wears.

Is seen by others as: a myth, a scary figure that you don’t want to meet. Most don’t believe he exists, as only those who are ancient in age or unbelievably powerful in magic know Khal, and by extension his fist, exists.

Health

Sleeping habits:  doesn’t sleep.

Energy level: has all the energy in the world, never gets tired physically, but is exhausted mentally.

Eating habits: doesn’t need to eat but will at times for nostalgia.

Memory: has perfect memory, remembers everything and anything down to the smallest detail.

Any unhealthy habits: probably the way he guilts himself and lets it control his life and his duty.

Relationships

Parents:  Thomas Wayne (Biological), Martha Wayne (Biological), Alfred Pennyworth (never adopted on paper, but Bruce saw him as his father)

Siblings: none

Any enemies (and why): way too many at this point.

Children: Dick Grayson (adopted), Jason Todd (adopted), Damian Wayne (Biological, With Talia), Cassandra Caine (Adopted), Duke Thomas (Adopted), Stephanie Brown (Adopted), Jean-Paul Valley (Adopted in spirit but not on paper), Carrie Kelley (Adopted), Jarro (Adopted), Helena Wayne (Biological, with Selina), Ryan Wayne (Biological, With Selina),  Terry Mcginnis (Adopted, depends on universe), Matt Mcginnis (Adopted, depends on universe), Bruce Wayne Jr (Biological, unknown mother), Athanasia Al Ghul (Biological, with Talia), Tallant Wayne (Biological, with Talia), Kull (Biological, with Diana), Harper Row (Adopted, depends on universe), Cullen Row (Adopted, depends on universe), Lance Bruner (Adopted),

Friends: has none at this point, but used to have the league and others.

Best friend(s): has none at this point, but it used to be Clark and Diana.

Important friends/relatives (explain): finds all his friends and family important.

Love interest (if there is one): None, but used to have a thing with Clark, but they didn’t get to make it official before Clark was killed.

Combat

Peaceful or violent: Attempts to stay peaceful if it’s possible, but isn’t against using violence and even deadly violence if needed.

Weapon (if applicable): mostly uses batgadgets you’d see any batman use, but has claws and uses swords and guns if needed too.

Style of fighting: can use pretty much any fighting style, just uses the one needed for the situation he’s in.

Others

Occupation: Knight of Khal (an oc of mine, whos the creator of all magic and existence). Gave himself to Khal to be his fist of vengeance after Khal restored Bruces destroyed home dimension. Became something far beyond human after this.

Current home: None, jumps across dimensions at will.

Favourite types of food: Mulligatawny Soup, white chocolate cookies with cranberries, Enchiladas Mole, I think he just enjoys anything Alfred makes, and Bruce enjoys food from a lot of different cultures.

Favourite types of drink: Strong coffees and non-fruity teas.

Hobbies/past times: Writing, Reading, knitting (does this when he has to pass time between dimensions), working out, training.

Guilty pleasures: Nachos, think the loaded unhealthy ones you get at the movies or on the street.

Pet peeves: Finds over arrogant people annoying, or people who think they are above everyone else. Those who treat those weaker than themselves badly.

Pets: Used to have many pets before becoming the fist of vengeance.

Favourite colours: Black, Blue, Red, Green, Yellow, Purple (think batfam colours.)

[ao3feed-harleyquinn]

take two: it takes two (to make a thing go right)

read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/VRvEYct by narration_ator after wind, after rain // when the dark is done // as I wake from a dream // in the gold of day // through the air there's a calling // from far away // there's a voice I can hear // that will lead me home -“the road home" You’ve held many roles over the years. Daughter. Sister. Sidekick. Vigilante. Superhero. CEO. Socialite. Gotham’s Princess. Leader. Wife. Aunt. Mother. A Wayne. A Kent. A remainder. You’ve been Batgirl and you’ve been Batman. You’ve lost each of your siblings. You survived the apocalypse and rebuilt the world in the wake of the loss. You’ve raised children—both your dead siblings’ kids and your own. You’ve trained an uncountable number of young heroes. When the end comes, it’s fitting. Your life’s work interrupted, your children’s lives falling under the same curse of losing parents that everyone else in your family has suffered. Your only regret, as you die in your husband’s arms, is that their father is now gone, as well. Then you wake up. Words: 953, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English Series: Part 1 of it takes two (to make a thing go right) Fandoms: Batman - All Media Types, DCU, DCU (Comics), Young Justice - All Media Types, Superman - All Media Types, Teen Titans - All Media Types Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Characters: Reader, Kon-El | Conner Kent, Bruce Wayne, Dick Grayson, Barbara Gordon, Jason Todd, Cassandra Cain, Tim Drake (DCU), Stephanie Brown, Damian Wayne, Duke Thomas, Luke Fox, Lucius Fox, Alfred Pennyworth, Helena Bertinelli, Harleen Quinzel, Pamela Isley, Selina Kyle, Helena Wayne, John Grayson, Elainna Grayson, Carrie Kelley, Lucy Quinzel, Lian Harper, Clark Kent, Jonathan Samuel Kent, Lois Lane, Jonathan "Pa" Kent, Martha Kent, Diana (Wonder Woman), Donna Troy, Harper Row, Kyle Rayner, Hal Jordan (Green Lantern), Oliver Queen, Connor Hawke, Mia Dearden, Barry Allen, Wally West, Bart Allen, J'onn J'onzz | Hank Henshaw, M'gann M'orzz, Zatanna Zatara, Arthur Curry (DCU), Kaldur'ahm | Jackson Hyde, Other Character Tags to Be Added Relationships: Kon-El | Conner Kent/Reader Additional Tags: Time Travel, Time Travel Fix-It, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Alternate Universe - Time Travel, Alternate Universe, Established Relationship, Marriage, Secret Marriage, Secret Relationship, Old Married Couple, Secret Identity, Superheroes, Vigilantism, Reader-Insert, Reader is a Wayne (DCU), Bruce Wayne Tries to Be a Good Parent, Kon-El | Conner Kent is Superboy, Clark Kent is Kon-El | Conner Kent's Parent, Lex Luthor is Kon-El | Conner Kent's Parent, Mentioned Jonathan "Pa" Kent and Martha Kent, Other Ships Not Mentioned in Tags, Other Additional Tags to Be Added read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/VRvEYct

[zahri-melitor]

Okay, contenders for why I listed this out to seven or more daughters, because everyone’s very fixed on two answers (and I’m pretty sure who they’re counting):

None – this is DC’s favourite answer for many periods actually. Amused how few votes this is getting.

Cassandra Cain – Cass was legally adopted at the end of Batgirl 2008, then written out of continuity after Flashpoint, and since her return I think has not officially been confirmed as adopted on page?

Helena Wayne (current) – Bruce’s future daughter with Selina who might now count as from another timeline. Currently starring in the JSA.

Helena Wayne (pre-Crisis) – arguably a different future daughter Helena of Bruce and Selina from a completely separate timeline given their backstories involve different parents dying and very few overlapping details other than their names.

Helena Kyle (postboot) – welcome to my favourite old conspiracy. Officially Helena Kyle is the daughter of Selina Kyle and Sam Bradley, as confirmed by a DNA test run by Bruce himself. In practice – DC spent a lot of time trying to fake everyone out going back and forth over who was Helena’s dad (look. Look at her name) and there’s an old conspiracy that Bruce made sure the test said he wasn’t the father, to make life easier for everyone involved. Also Bruce got a little bit of dad time in with baby and toddler Helena. Look, it’s a 2006-2007 thing.

Helena Bertinelli – definitely not biologically related to Bruce, definitely not adopted by Bruce, definitely never treated like a daughter by Bruce, but technically sort of a reincarnation of Helena Wayne (pre-Crisis) if you count that sort of thing. Also was running around Gotham being Not Your Kid at the same time Jean-Paul Valley was doing the same thing while also referring to himself as the prodigal son, making the lines very blurry.

Athanasia Al Ghul - Oh heck I was just reminded this Talia and Bruce kid exists in various alternate continuities. I don’t think Athanasia exists as a future daughter anywhere.

Barbara Gordon – acting as a parental figure/we’re counting unofficial daughters-in-law, round one. Barbara would heavily dispute this. (The Bruce who kissed Barbara’s forehead when she was dying of Brainiac poisoning would probably say she’s an unofficial emotional daughter. The rest of the time he’d refuse to engage with the question)

Stephanie Brown – acting as a parental figure/we’re counting unofficial daughters-in-law, round two. Steph would like to point out that she has two (usually) living parents, even if Crystal Brown has never been consistently drawn from issue to issue and Arthur’s occasionally dead or pretending to be dead, and she’s never lived at the Manor thank you very much. You can be a Robin without being Bruce’s kid.

Koriand’r – well you did just suggest unofficial/potential future daughters-in-law count, round three.

Carrie Kelley – she’s a Robin, she’s a girl, she was under Bruce’s mentorship as a vigilante while Robining… but she also had her own two parents and never lived with Bruce.

Harper Row – she’s a vigilante he watches over, Bruce does spend a fair bit of time worrying about her living arrangements.

Claire Clover – she’s a vigilante Bruce was mentoring, he was emotionally close to her for a period.

Mary Kowalski/Miracle Molly – Gotham vigilante clause, wasn’t she living in part of the Manor/Cave at one point?

A confusing number all named Helena, no others – we’re preferencing biological daughters of Bruce only and nobody can get an accurate count on how many of them there are!

Am I missing any other options people would like to add on?

Okay here’s a poll everyone will have very strong opinions on:

I love to see working, tell me who you are and are not counting and why

[jasontoddsguns]

A random person: I love Batman and robin

Me: Oh, Which robin is your favorite?

A random person: There’s more than one?

Me: Can I tell you about them?

A random person: Sure!

Me: (deep breath) So dick grayson is the first robin. He’s the one most people think of when someone mentions robin. His parents were acrobats who fell to their deaths. Bruce wayne happened to see this and was like,”huh,I guess I’m a dad now.”Dick is known for being the most social of the bat family. He even formed the teen titans. He later goes off on his own as Nightwing. Jason Todd was the second robin. His dad was an abusive asshole and his mom was a drug addict. His mom overdoses and Jason takes to the streets. He tries to steal the wheels off the batmobile and batman catches him and is like, “huh,I have two sons now.” Jason was violent during his time is Robin and readers generally disliked him. DC did a poll to see if Jason should die or not. Readers decided to kill him. Long story short Jason is brutally murdered by the Joker. He gets resurrected later and becomes the Red Hood, a gun toting antihero. So while Jason is dead Batman has become absolutely brutal on criminals because you know, his son is dead. Rich kid named Tim Drake, who already knew Batman’s identity because he’s a smart cookie, notices this. Tim goes to Dick and he’s like, ”bruh your dad is losing it, be Robin again.” Dick is like, “no you.” After a lot of nagging and blackmail Bruce finally accepts Tim as Robin. Bruce is also like, “huh, I guess I have three two sons now.” Tim later becomes Red Robin because Dick was being an asshole. The fourth robin? (idk timelines are tricky) is Stephanie Brown, a.k.a the first female robin. Her dad was a villain named the Cluemaster and Stephanie was like, “hell no” She breaks into the bat cave and demands to become robin. She later gets fired and goes after blackmask to prove herself. She “dies” but really she fakes her death. She later comes back as batgirl. She also went/goes by spoiler. Damian Wayne is the 5th robin. He is the son of Talia al Ghul and Batman. He really wanted the robin mantle and repeatedly tried to kill Tim Drake for it. In general he’s a little asshole, but he has a soft spot for animals and superboy. He later becomes robin to Dick Grayson’s Batman. Last but not least Carrie Kelly. She’s not cannon anymore but she deserves a mention. She also uses a slingshot and is just straight up a vibe.

[philtatosbuck]

every day i discover a new bruce wayne child over the multiverse.

Bio Kids: Tallant (I consider him to be separate from Damian), Kull (A child between Diana and Bruce), Damian, Athanasia (Brutalia Injustice daughter), Terry McGinnis, Matt McGinnis, Helena Wayne, Kiki Wayne, Alina Shelley Wayne (Possibly?) and Aion Wayne

Adopted Kids: Dick, Jason, Cassandra, Tim, Duke.

Not adopted kids, but he's a parental figure/people consider him to be?: Barbara, Stephanie, Carrie Kelley, Harper Row, Cullen Row?

That's twenty fucking kids bro