#bruce go to therapy

[ihatechosingnames]

This post will be short.

After seeing Bruce skip town to be Batman full-time and alone, I say he needs to see a therapist, an exorcist (for Zur and every version of Zur he created by jumping dimensions), and a second therapist. In this exact order.

This man has not heard of "burnout syndrome" which he probably has since he did Zur, Red Mask, Insomnia, whatever and Gotham War one after the other without rest. His mind needs as much rest as his body, he doesn't need to push it till he dies.

The thing is I was hoping that this arc would have lead to some kind of revelation for Bruce to change to became a better man, but it's since the golden times of Robin-Dick that this man has made questionable decisions, and I'm not talking about letting an underage grieving child to go out and fight adult criminals. I'm talking about Zur, that he created to protect himself from "psychological attacks". I'm talking about the machine he created to "cure" Jason of his murderous way, which I theorized he created for the Joker. It is heavily implied (by the bold characters) he created both Zur and the machine around the same time.

Which makes me ask: for who he created originally this machine?

Dick, asking what happened to Jason, before disconnecting Bruce is a good move, I haven't read a lot about Dick (I mean, the last thing I've read about Dick was Vampire King Dick) but it seems that until the last minute he was conflicted, knowing what happened snapped him

the argument Bruce tries to use on Dick, about saving Jason's future victims, reeks about hypocrisy. He could have used to "cure" the Joker from his murderous insanity. Bruce truly thinks this is a cure and Jason's violence is a sickness

I don't think Dick would have been so calm in the last conversation with Bruce if he knows this.

I'm not exactly happy that Bruce has left behind his family by telling Dick and Barbara to be the parents. First of all, a group of family is not defined by traditional roles. Dick and Barbara can lead their family of brothers and sisters by still being their siblings, not their parents. Second, how dare he leave his children. In good and in bad, especially in the bad, he is their father and he just leaves. What about Damian? What about Tim? Steph? Cass? Duke? Jason?

In my opinion, at that point, Dick should have decked him again.

Bruce has a moral responsibility towards all of them, for being not only their mentor, but also being a father figure for them. Being a parent is not a job you can decide to pass on to the next person.

On the other side, I think it was much needed. Bruce was literally at the bottom and was digging even deeper, he now needs to climb up from the grave he dug. Hopefully, the next arc is going to be exactly this, Bruce getting better, in his own time. The chances he actually goes to a therapist are very low, near the impossible, but someone can hope.

[ihatechosingnames]

Why did I get to know that DC killed (?) Jason Todd (AGAIN, as their writing isn't killing his character half the time) from this meme?

dc fans how we feeling

[batboopp]

bruce wayne they could never make me hate you. they could also never make me like you either. good god you are fucked up

[lygma-nygma]

Being a batfam fan is funny because people will make a post like “here’s my headcanon-“ and it’s just something that’s directly canon to the story then post about major canon events and get everything wrong.

[astronomic-explorer]

god dc fanon is actually crazy. "dck was gonna put tim in arkham!" BITCH HE TOLD TIM TO GO TO THERAPY 😭

[starry-bi-sky]

"Stillborn? No, no, still born." -- DPXDC AU

Based off a comment I saw where Bruce knew about Talia's pregnancy in the earlier comivs, and was ecstatic to be a father. So much so that Talia feared he'd give up being Batman for it, so when she gave birth she put the baby (Damian) on a doorstep and (seemingly) told Bruce that the baby was stillborn.

Instead of Damian, that baby was Danny! Meet Daniel Brown, the 14 year old foster kid whose been living with the Fenton family for the last two years. He's about two years older than Damian.

His last name, "Brown", was a generic surname given to him because the note he came with didn't have one on it. It just had the name "Danyal" on it, but albeit 'Daniel' was the one that had been put into the system for, I'll be totally frank here, racism reasons.

(I looked it up to make sure, and it's generally not permissible for foster parents to change the names of their foster kids even if it's a permanent residency, and for that reason Danny doesn't have the last name "Fenton".)

Danny's got ✨~issues!~✨ He's been through a handful of homes growing up, most of them terrible for a variety of reasons. Which has, as a result, left lasting scars. He's generally a very sweet kid, just very distrustful and jumpy. He's got the signs of a kid suffering from PTSD, and a handful of other issues including attachment and insomnia. His inferiority complex could rival Damian's, and that's going to make for an interesting mutual hatred for when they finally meet.

(something I'll get into later)

He still has the blanket he was found in. It's made of a very high quality material and is a beautiful emerald green with little golden thread accents, it's high quality as a result has Danny clinging onto a desperate hope that his bio family might be out there, and the only reason they gave him up was because of some outside factor. It's been taken a few times in old foster homes, and he's flipped out each time.

While he still calls Jack and Maddie by their names, he likes them well enough. The bar isn't that high though, and while they're some of the better foster parents he's had, "better" doesn't equal "safest". Their laboratory malpractice. Basically, C- Fenton Parents. They're negligent by virtue of being engrossed in their work, but they do care equally about Jazz and Danny. So he doesn't hold it against them that much.

He kinda prefers it that way, their loud affection is overwhelming and Danny doesn't know what to do with their attention, even if he craves it. It's a bit of a complicated situation.

They took in Danny because they genuinely wanted another child, but didn't want a big age gap between them and Jazz. It was actually Jack's idea to foster, and they discussed it with Jazz beforehand. She was all for the idea. Thus, a handful of weeks later, a ton of paperwork, and inspection later, and Daniel Brown entered their household with a trash bag in one hand and eyes like shards of stained glass.

His relationship with Jazz is kinda strained, but that's by virtue of her constant psychoanalyzing and helicoptering. Like with the parents, Danny's overwhelmed by the attention and also just, straight up doesn't like the fact that she's telling him that there's something wrong with him. He knows that, thank you. He pushes her away when she does this.

Other than that though? When Jazz isn't smothering him and is acting like an actual sibling and not a third parent, they're pretty close, and Danny really likes her. They've hung out a few times on their own volition, and Jazz showed him how to take better care of his long hair.

His school situation,, pretty similar to canon with the bullying, albeit with a few more instances of him blowing a fuse and lashing out against his attackers. He's a rather angry kid, but it's quiet. It builds up, piles on top of itself, until eventually, like a volcano, it erupts and burns everyone within radius.

Danny's got a fire core, not an ice core. Phantom's hair is made of white magma; thick and heavy, setting itself on fire when his anger runs hot. When he gets angry, his skin begins to char and split open to reveal pulsating lava underneath, and he crackles and pops like a raging forest fire.

I haven't decided yet on how he meets the batfam -- i've got two ideas but they're both in opposition to each other, and drastically alter how the rest of the plot goes. But I do know that him and Damian hate each other in the beginning. And it has nothing to do with inheritance or "being the blood son" -- although their blood relation absolutely plays the major role in their disdain for each other.

Simply put, they're jealous of each other for the same thing: thinking that the other was wanted.

Damian hates Danny because, unlike Damian, Bruce knew about Danny since conception and wanted him from the moment he heard about him. He had a whole nursery set up, and still does. He never took it down -- just locked the door. Damian was thrust upon Bruce without warning, and he feels like he forced himself into the family. And while on some level Damian knows and understands that Bruce wants him and loves him as much as his other children, that doubt and feeling of inferiority still remains. He looks at Danny and sees him with what Damian always feels he needs reaffirmed.

Meanwhile, Danny hates Damian because he looks at him and sees him with everything Danny's ever wanted. He hates him because Damian grew up knowing both of their parents, with one of them for most of his life, and then moved over to the other. There was never a moment where Damian was (seemingly) left to doubt his place within the family. Damian was raised with the very same woman who left Danny on a doorstep, with no clue to his identity beyond a little green blanket and a note with only a first name. Damian was wanted everywhere, and Danny was wanted nowhere. Damian is Danny's replacement in his eyes.

(It's the little revelation that Damian grew up with their mother that elevates Danny from being quietly envious of Damian to downright despising him. What did Damian do, that Danny didn't? He could live with Damian living with Bruce -- Bruce didn't know Danny was even alive. But him living with their mom? Are you fucking kidding him?)

Damian never outright attacks Danny physically, but it's not like he hides that he didn't like Danny. Meanwhile, Danny, in all his repressive anger, quietly despised him from a distance until finally one wrong snide side-comment has him blowing up and it becomes a screaming match. They're both just enough similar to each other that when they look at each other they really just see a mirror.

They'll work it out together, eventually. But it'll be ugly and cruel and explosive, and they'll start mending the bridge to become brothers in more than just blood relation in the end.

But yeah, stillborn Danny has... a lot going for him.

[mamawasatesttube]

you know how bruce is often doing shit like bringing up his dead parents all the time apropros of nothing? like

(action comics #784)

well i think it would be REALLY funny if he pulled that one at kon sometime, because:

(supergirl (1996) #76)

i need this actually. like i NEED this. can you imagine??

bruce: you don't know pain like i do. i watched my parents die-- kon: well hey, at least you HAD parents! bruce: ...hn.

like what would his dramatic brooding ass even say to that. lmaooo

[tim-drake-scholar]

Sorry but Tim referring to Bruce as “dad” kills me bc I think he’s like 18/19 here so he’s only been legally adopted for a couple years or so? They really are all siblings and they really are a family! I love that Damian looks so confused about physical affection!!

[timdrakewhump]

Not a fan of Batcist EVER but especially with Tim. Bruce? Dick? Jason? He once idolised them all - he probably still does a little. Either way, the power dynamic doesn’t sit well with me. The others I just don’t like because of age and also because it’s WEIRD. not to shame anyone but I am a little.

[hopefully-helpful-daemon]

People need to realize that this 'emotionally repressed' 'bad at communicating' 'doesn't know how to show love so doesn't even try' Bruce that's so popular with fandom, can't exist at the same time as 'best father of the year' 'tried his hardest' 'kind, compassionate grandfather' Alfred that the fandom loves so much !

[im-a-lil-bitch-boi]

EDIT: after bein explaimed to the affects lobotomy can have on someone, ill have to amend this post by sayin i would not lobotomize the joker. i would srill do SMTH, jus not like. . . this. makin this edit as i still agree w alot here aside from the lobotomy and vegetable comment(which have neen explained to me as ableist). also another reason for this edit is so others can see this w out me havin to take this down but also so i dont have to do major edits whilst half asleep 👍

ngl of i was Batman i woulda lobotomized the joker i,f he kill my son. fuck him, and fuck Superman! that mfer aint finna srop me

Supes: u cant kill the joker

me: ik that y ima lobotomize him, he killed my son. u think ima let him get away w that?

tbh i woulda lobotomized him the 2nd time he commited mass murder ngl, i ain fuckin round w thqt shit. Barbaras not gonna become disabled bc of him, Tim aint gonna become joker jr, amd Jason sure as hell aint finna die bc the jokers gonna become a fuckin vegetable when Dick is still Robin

ALSO i woulda gotten therapy the moment i realized i was fuckin up Dicks n i's relationship. i woulda offered him to join me in some family therapy n not do wut emotionally constipated Bruce "I am Vengence" Wayne did tf

[undertheredhood]

imo gotham war should end with the batkids tying bruce up and dumping him at a therapist's office to sort out his many issues

[tiger-grace]

Employer: what would you say your biggest weakness is?

Gothemite: probably my relationship with my father

Employer: isn’t that everyone in this city’s?? hired

[puppetmaster13u]

You know what would be hilarious. @phoenixcatch7 Possessed Doll au. A goon stuck in an office with automatic doors. The kids have just learned about (or it's just come out) the fnaf game (or the DC world equivalent). Can you imagine them instantly deciding to fuck with that goon (or three), just instantly sharing the same braincell

[rubydubydoo122]

"Girldad" Bruce Wayne pisses me off so much

Understandable.

Bruce pretty much only has boys, except for Cass. And I guess Stephanie, but not really. I mean, Bruce was really sexist towards Steph during her Robin days, but mainly the fandom talks about Bruce being a girldad towards Cass.

But I still understand why it feels odd for Bruce to be called a "Girldad".

Bruce didn't teach her how to ride a bike, or have tea parties with her growing up. He didn't struggle to learn how to tie a ponytail for her, or awkwardly help when she was having her first period, but that's because. Bruce didn't raise Cass, Cass raised Cass. Bruce didn't raise any of the younger girls who entered his life as mentees

Does that mean they aren't going to love each other in a familial way? No, of course not.

But I do think prime 80's comics Bruce Wayne would be a total GirlDad. But as the writing went on, and as he became more of a male power fantasy, Bruce's character changed into someone who was a bit mysogenistic. That Bruce is the one who interacts with both Cass and Steph, not 80's comics Bruce.

But the fun thing about fanon, is that we can mix and match different charactarizations of different characters, use different AUs and tweak backstories.

Though, I do understand certain fandom takes being infuriating and needing to rant about them(trust me) so if you want to rant more about why you don't like "Girldad Bruce" in my inbox, I'm down.

[starry-bi-sky]

new Danyal al Ghul au just dropped! --or at least some art of it did. I call it the "Stillborn? No, no, still born" au (or stillborn just for short)

it's based off a batfam comment I saw that mentioned in the early comics Bruce knew about Talia's pregnancy and was ecstatic to be a father. So much so that Talia feared he'd give up being Batman for it, so when she gave birth she put the baby (Damian) on a doorstep and (seemingly) told Bruce that the baby was stillborn.

I saw it, thought "mm, tasty!" and thought what if that baby was Danny instead of Damian? By default I was thinking of making him a few years older, however, it works just as well with demon twins. I need to think it over. Meet Daniel Brown! 14 year old foster kid whose been with the Fentons for the last two years! He has SO many issues haha. hah. lmfao even.

Danny's theme song is literally just "Good Kid" from the Percy Jackson musical, to sum him up.