#bi cenelian

[yourfavusescontradictorylabels]

Fluttershy from My Little Pony Friendship is Magic is a naturecoric xenofluid bi cenelian!

Her joyfriend Discord (also from MLP) is a panagender diamoric gaybian he/him lesbian!

They both support all good-faith contradictory labels!

Fluttershy from My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic is a naturecoric, xenofluid, bi cenelian!

Her joyfriend Discord is a panagender, diamoric, gaybian, he/him lesbian!

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Mspec related cenelian flags :D ✨

mspec cenelian | bi cenelian ply cenelian | omni cenelian pan cenelian | abro cenelian

The colors are a combination of cenelian and the respective mspec orientations flags'. I didn't use every single color/stripe, and some of the colors are edited a bit, but this is just to make them match the style of other mspec related flags, and also for aesthetic purposes, not trying to take away from any meaning. I tried to keep the main colors though.

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List of flags I referenced, (they're in the order of cenelian, mspec, bi, ply, omni, pan, & abro)

[pupiipawzz]

anyone else simultaneously both gay and straight in all directions?

[queerpridedits]

More Orientation Userboxes

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Flag Key:

cenelian • cetero

bi • pan

poly • omni

abro • m-spec

[redtail-lol]

Mspec enbian yay

Water themed

Aquarian

General mspec enbian label and flag

Bi Enbian Flag

Pan Enbian Flag

Poly Enbian Flag

Omni Enbian Flag

Abro Enbian Flag

Flameric Enbian (Mono Enbian)

I forgot my banner whoops

[genderstarbucks]

Can I have a strayt cenelian combo flag?

Strayt + Cenelian!!

[gloaming-sometimes]

first of all, the way you worded this comes off as belittling, i dont know if that was your intention but thats how it feels. i'll answer regardless but know that i and anyone else with a nuanced identity are not obligated to to justify our identities to you because you dont understand it or at the very least respect our right to self determination. im going to be so honest with you when i say that sentiments like this in the queer community (as in "i dont understand your identity therefore it is bigoted to me personally/the rest of what i deem the 'real' community") is a deep plague to us. stupid ass discourse (which is almost exclusively an online phenomenon, btw) is not helping progress us as a community with ourselves or with non-queers, it isnt helping fight the often times life or death issues we face and it sures a hell isn't helping/uplifting anyone in our community; in fact i would argue it is doing the exact opposite of all those things.

anywho, on to answering your actual question. you clearly already know the literal definition of these terms but i feel your understanding of what being bi, pan, otherwise mspec, lesbian, gay, etc is incomplete (and i am not claiming mine or anyone else's is either, out of eight billion people it would impossible to understand every label as every individual sees themselves in relation to it). so let me just go over some things:

bi does not always mean attraction to two genders (often defined as two or more), it does not always mean attraction to both men and women (for example you could only like women and nonbinary people or any other combination of genders), and it is not always static attraction to the same two genders at a fixed preference (see the term bi-cycle, people who may or may not identify as abro/orientationally fluid may also identify as bi. not every bi person always likes two or more genders at the same time)

m-spec does not just mean bi, pan, omni, poly/poli/ply, abro. it is an UMBRELLA TERM for anyone who likes more than one gender. that can mean a lot of things to a lot of different people.

lesbian/gay/homo have not always meant exclusive attraction to the same/similar gender. lesbian started out as an umbrella term much like how sapphic is used now and gay started out as a derogatory term. in my opinion nothing about the term homosexual/romantic/etc indicates that it is exclusive, just that it is attraction of a same or similar gender or is queer in nature

heres a more tangible example of the labels being used like this: a bi lesbian who does not like men (likes women + nonbinary people, may or may not identify as enbian/diamoric/cenelian/etc), a genderfluid person who is only attracted to women so is sometimes hetero and sometimes lesbian (not inherently an mspec identity the way i described it), a multigender person who is homo- for both genders making them gaybian/sapphillean/etc (thats what i am!), a bi/abro/fluid person who always/commonly likes men and sometimes likes women might identify as bi/abro gay/straight, so on and so on. and thats not even getting into split attraction model (for example being bisexual homoromantic). are you starting to understand that conceptualizing queer labels as being rigid, "opposites" of each other and incapable overlapping is not reflective of people's experience with their identity and the way they chose to label it?

i feel like the reason behind some people understanding queerness like this goes back to recent gay rights movements which, while have been pretty affective and by far are a net positive, has "dumbed down" queer reality to make it easier for non-queers to understand. to make us more digestible, more conforming to "the norm" (which i have gripes with as it leaves many of behind, specifically those of us who cannot or dont want to conform to those norms). an unfortunate side effect of this is that now almost all queer representation in pop-culture is seen through this lense of digestibility, of respectability politics, which leads to even people in our own community (especially those who dont know an in person community and/or dont know queer history) understanding what we are and what we are capable of being as less than what it is.

if you'll notice mspec gays/lesbians/straights include both terms in the name, because the person in reference to the term is both. "why are you terrified of just being bisexual" i am just bisexual, i am also just lesbian, i am also just gay, i am also just something that no label will ever be able to fully describe. i like labels for myself though, they make me happy, so i stitch them together in a way that is me. do you understand yet? having a nuanced identity like this is not biphobic, homophobic or denying yourself what you are; it is quite the contrary, the labels i use were born from a deep love for myself, for how i experience identity. if you think being bisexual makes you "normal" thats your problem because i promise that is not the case. and ill say it! there are MANY ways relationships between a man and a woman can be queer (trans person with a trans person, trans person with a cis person (if that is how they see their relationship), transman/masc/etc in a lesbian relationship, transwoman/fem/etc in a gay relationship, aromantic or asexual spectrum, polyamory, male-female mspec relationships, and more). people seem to think that the label fits the person, the label controls what they experience, but that is not the case. all queer labels are opt-in, you choose them, that is the point. what they mean to the individual is extremely personal and unique to them. they are entirely subjective much like nearly everything else in life.

expand what you think it means to be queer, kill the cop in your head.

I habe so many questions for tumblr

what the fuck is a mspec straight, mspec lesbian, mspec gay.. like genuinely why don’t you just say bisexual?? Or pansexual?? Are you scared of being that? I mean I think it’s a little biphobic and homophobic to be scared of just saying you’re mspec 🤷‍♂️ why are you so terrified of the concept of just being bisexual. It’s like you quiver at what you truly are, because you’re scared of being seen as “normal”. just my thoughts lol.

[revenant-coining]

hi! could you find a bunch of mspec mono terms? i’ve been looking for some kind of thing that has a lot of them compiled into one post, so it would be really helpful. thanks!

here ya go! we’re sure there is more but here’s all the one’s we found on tumblr!

Abro (x)

Abro Achillean (link)

Abro Cenelian (link)

Abro Equaric (link)

Abro Gay (link)

Abro Sapphic (link)

Abro Straightbian (link)

Abro Straightrian (link)

Abro Straightlian (link)

Abro Straightgay (link)

Abro Trixic (link)

Abro Uranic (link)

Bi (x)

Bi Achillean (link)

Bi Cenelian (link)

Bi Equaric (link)

Bi Het/Straight (link)

Bi Lesbian (link)

Bi Gai (link)

Bi Gay (link) 1

Bi Gay (link) 2

Bi Gay Man/Turian/Veldian (link) 1

Bi Gay Man/Turian (link) 2

Bi Straightbian (link)

Bi Straightrian (link)

Bi Straightlian (link)

Bi Straightgay (link)

Bi Strayt (link)

Bi Trixic (link)

Bi Uranic (link)

Mspec (x)

Mspec Achillean (link)

Mspec Cenelian (link)

Quasic (Mspec Cenelian) (link)

Mspec Equaric (link)

Mspec Gai (link)

Kelvian (Mspec Gai) (link)

Mspec Mono (link)

Mspec Trixic (link)

Mspec Sapphic (link)

Jupiteric/Mesrien (Mspec Straight) (link)

Mspec Straightbian (link)

Mspec Straightrian (link)

Mspec Straightlian (link)

Mspec Straightgay (link)

Mspec Strayt (link)

Metisian (Mspec Strayt) (link)

Mspec Uranic (link)

Omni (x)

Omni Achillean (link)

Omni Cenelian (link)

Omni Equaric (link)

Omni Lesbian (link)

Omni Gai (link)

Omni Gay (link) 1

Omni Gay (link) 2

Omni Gay Man/Turian/Veldian (link) 1

Omni Gay Man/Turian (link) 2

Omni Straightbian (link)

Omni Straightrian (link)

Omni Straightlian (link)

Omni Straightgay (link)

Omni Strayt (link)

Omni Trixic (link)

Omni Uranic (link)

Pan (x)

Pan Achillean (link)

Pan Cenelian (link)

Pan Equaric (link)

Pan Lesbian (link)

Pan Gai (link)

Pan Gay (link) 1

Pan Gay (link) 2

Pan Gay Man/Turian/Veldian (link) 1

Pan Gay Man/Turian (link) 2

Pan Straightbian (link)

Pan Straightrian (link)

Pan Straightlian (link)

Pan Straightgay (link)

Pan Strayt (link)

Pan Trixic (link)

Pan Uranic (link)

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Lexay - Simplified flag

Being Gay but sometimes experiencing what might be attraction to women or other dissimilar genders, but not actually being sure if it's true attraction or not do, to trauma, intrusive thoughts, intense need for affection related to a mental disorder, hypersexuality, identity disturbance related to a mental disorder, or any other reason related to neurodivergence. Or experiencing attraction to women or other dissimilar genders specifically because of one(or more) of the reasons above.

Lexorbian - Simplified flag

Being lesbian but sometimes experiencing what might be attraction to men or other dissimilar genders, but not actually being sure if it's true attraction or not do, to trauma, intrusive thoughts, intense need for affection related to a mental disorder, hypersexuality, identity disturbance related to a mental disorder, or any other reason related to neurodivergence. Or experiencing attraction to men or other dissimilar genders specifically because of one(or more) of the reasons above.

Lexelian - Simplified flag

Being cenelian but sometimes experiencing what might be attraction to binary or dissimilar genders, but not actually being sure if it's true attraction or not, do to trauma, intrusive thoughts, intense need for affection related to a mental disorder, hypersexuality, identity disturbance related to a mental disorder, or any other reason related to neurodivergence. Or experiencing attraction to binary or other dissimilar genders specifically because of one(or more) of the reasons above.

Lexhet/Lexright - Simplified flag

Being hetero/straight but sometimes experiencing what might be attraction to the same or similar genders, but not actually being sure if it's true attraction or not, do to trauma, intrusive thoughts, intense need for affection related to a mental disorder, hypersexuality, identity disturbance related to a mental disorder, or any other reason related to neurodivergence. Or experiencing attraction to the same or similar genders specifically because of one(or more) of the reasons above.

Kinda like be Nebulasexual and Abasexual , but only for some genders. These could use these labels for one or multiple types of attraction, for example someone could lesbian for their romantic attraction and lexorbian their sexual attraction.

the names come from the Latin word perplexor, which you can probably guess what that word means.

In terms of flag design they're based off the homo/heteroflexible flags. With the center section using the color symbolism used on the bi flag, blue for attraction to dissimilar genders, pink/red for attraction to similar genders, although in this instance it's not inherently actually attraction. I also tried to make the overall colors of the flag look a little more "uncertain", if that makes any sense.

[haunted-thing]

flag needs id

pt: turainelian/end pt

turainelian

(pronounced tur-i-nelian)

a flag for when one is: bi,pan,gay,turian,cenelian,straight,darcian, and a non sam asexual!

requested by anon!

taglist: @puriette , @squidedibles , @jiiamp , @idolkisses

[eclipian]

Royal Stars Sisasystem

pt: royal stars sisasystem

reminder beings will almost definitely not turn out exactly as described, and these can be edited and changed as needed.

number of members: 6

divider credit

System Name: The Royal Family , The Royal Stars , The Royals

Collec. Name(s): Altair , Astra , Astro , Astrum , Caelus , Callisto , Castor , Coeles , Comet , Cosmos / Cosmo , Orion , Sideralis / Sidereus / Sidereal , Sidus , Sirius , Stello , Nebula , Jupiter

Collec. Pronouns: Ao/Aos , Quoi/Quois , Star/Stars , Shine/Shines , Bright/Brights , Gala/Galaxys , Ae/Aer , Astra/Astras , Astro/Astros , Stardust/Stardusts , Ri/Rings , Celeste/Celestes , Cosmo/Cosmos , Lux/Luxs , 🌌/🌌s , ✨/✨s , 🎇/🎇s , 🪐/🪐s , 🌍/🌍s , ☀️/☀️s ,⭐/⭐s ,🌟/🌟s , 🌀/🌀s , ☄️/☄️s , 🌠/🌠s , 🌙/🌙s , 👑/👑s ,💎/💎s , 🔭/🔭s , 🚀/🚀s

Collec. Gender: Galactian Alignments , Aurorian , SPAN , Starbodiment , Liosfamilovic , Stargender

Collec. Orientation: Starorientated , Astroceptum

Origins/Modifiers: Starplurid , Stelocus , Stargenic , ARoAB

Aesthetic(s): Spacecore , Fantasy , Dark Fantasy , Royalcore

Names: Stellan, Kallisto, Leo, Cyrus, Astrophel, Elrond

Pronouns: He/Him , Hy/Hym , Hey/Hem , Star/Stars , Quoi/Quois , Ao/Aos , H⭐/H⭐m , King/Kings , K⭐ng/K⭐ngs , Roy/Royals

Gender: Solarian , Stargender , Regogender , Kinglover , Kingthing

Orientation: Romeric ,

Title: King

Names: Aster, Esther, Estelle, Estella, Stella, Astra, Elanor, Andromeda

Pronouns: She/Her , Sh⭐/H⭐r , Star/Stars , Stel/Stels , Cro/Crown , Spa/Space , Shi/Shine , Sie/Sier , Shie/Shier , Shy/Hyr , Ze/Hir , Shi/Shine

Gender: Lunarian , Stargender , Eaglenebinvisia , Queentitleic , Reginogender , Queenlover , Queenthing

Orientation: Julietian ,

Title: Queen

Names: Stella, Carina, Astra, Astrid, Aurora, Twyla, Arabella

Pronouns: Shy/Hyr , She/Her , Sh⭐/H⭐r , Ri/RIngs , Sta/Stars , Sol/Sols , Shi/Shine , Sie/Sier , Shie/Shier , Shy/Hyr , Ae/Aer , Ao/Aos , Quoi/Quois

Gender: Stargender , Demigirl , Staricesse , Stargirl , Princinogender , Princessthing , Princessplit

Orientation: Bi Lestar , Planchanti , Lithoaroace

Title: Princess

Names: Orion, Altair, Castor, Sirius, Cepheus

Pronouns: He/Him , Hy/Hym , Sta/Star , Co/Comet , Roy/Royal , Shi/Shine , Li/Light , Sol/Sols , Sol/Solars , Bri/Bright , H⭐/H⭐m , Ae/Aer , Ao/Aos , Quoi/Quois

Gender: Solarian , Demiboy , Stargender , Starryprincegender , Princestar , Pristaric , Starboy , Princogender , Princething

Orientation: Bi Cenelian , Ficto , Nebularoace

Title: Prince

Names: Elara, Cressida, Despina, Lyra, Vesta, Roxana

Pronouns: She/Her , Sh⭐/H⭐r , Shy/Hyr , Sta/Stars , Shi/Shine , Sie/Sier , Shie/Shier , Ae/Aer , Ao/Aos , Quoi/Quois

Gender: Futch , Juxera , Lunarian , Stargender , Domesticstar , Novastrea , Starfrilled , Stardecorated , Dreamlady , Nightmarelady

Orientation: Lesbian , Demiaroace

Title: Lady in Waiting

Names: Astrophel, Archer, Rhea, Badar, Jupiter, Orpheus

Pronouns: They/Them , Th*y/Th*m , Th⭐y/Th⭐m , Ao/Aos , Quoi/Quois , Star/Stars , Shine/Shines , Bright/Brights , Ae/Aer , Astra/Astras , Astro/Astros

Gender: Otter , Stellarian , Eclipsian , Stargender , Panknight , Knighthing , Knightpresentic , Knightcenic , (not gender) Knightsensus

Orientation: (just) Objectum

Title: Knight

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mspec/multispec straightlian | bi straightlian ply straightlian | omni straightlian pan straightlian | abro straightlian

(straightlian = straight cenelian. Can also be called straightcelian or cenelihet.)

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Mspec straight cenelian flags :D

These are similar to my mspec straightgay/straightrian/straightbian/straightlaurian flags. These are basically just a mix of all the base flags colors, tan/purple/dark brown for (straight)cenelian, grey for straight, and the rest for either multispec, bi, ply, omni, pan, or abro respectively.

[objectsarebestest]

Vexillum things:

“Am I actually this label? Or am I just really attracted to the flag?”

Not me crushing on the lesboy, enbyhet, autoplatonic, and bi cenelian flags. No, I totally didn’t do that. I definitely didn’t wish I was that label so I could have an excuse to hang the flag in my room and make kissy faces at it occasionally.

Eh, I guess I’ll just go back to daydreaming about starting a revolution and creating my own nation so I get to design that nation’s flag. And it would be the hottest flag ever to exist. You have no idea.

[beyond-mogai-pride-flags]

Femerraric Pride Flag

Femerraric or femeraric/femerasric: an umbrella term for those who are not attracted to women anymore; a label in which one's femaric attraction has partially or fully vanished.

Few examples: an errasexual folk or otherwise asexual folk who once experienced attraction to women; a taken/"ideally" monogamous pluralian (e.g. bi/pan/omni/tri/ply) partnering a non-woman; a straight woman who used to be attracted to women, but realized she is bennetian/str8 after all; a gay man who dated women due to compulsory heterosexuality; an enbian/cenelian, suptilic enboric, or viramoric/toramoric folk who used to be pan/omni; an abro- or otherwise affectionally fluid person; or otherwise someone who is currently nofemaric person and once experienced attraction to girl.

[themaveriqueagenda]

How does nonbinary in orientations work? I feel as a nonbinary/maverique person they should be included. But one criticism I see often is that you can't tell someone is nonbinary based on appearance, thus you can't be attracted to nonbinary people. Which doesn't entirely make sense to me, but I do see it often. Or that nonbinary attraction orientations should be limited to other nonbinary people using them, I don't have any opinion either way for this.

hi anon!

somehow i'm only seeing this now.

i made a post about this whole thing on my personal blog but i can't find it because tumblr's search is horrible.

but basically, for mspec orientations, nonbinary are already always included except for bi people who are specifically only into men and women.

as for other established orientations that kind of have a binary undertone, it's really up to the nonbinary person whether they want to be included or not. i think both "nonbinary people are included in all orientations" and "nonbinary people aren't included in all orientations" are incorrect because nonbinary people are not a monolith. nonbinary people can be included in every orientation. it's a potential rather than an inherent fact. that part of the discussion is actually something i talked about on my podcast, if you're at all interested to hear more.

as for orientations that are explicit in their attraction to nonbinary people, if they haven't literally been coined to mean nonbinary loving nonbinary, i don't see why binary people shouldn't be able to be attracted to us. i've seen some terms that previously just meant "attraction to nonbinary people", like cetero, be redefined as nonbinary loving nonbinary, but we already have terms for that (enbian, cenelian, in some ways diamoric), so i think it's unnecessary. this argument often comes from the idea that people who are attracted to us are automatically fetishising us. that argument seems exorsexist in and of itself as it's pretty much based on the idea that nonbinary people are undesirable and that no binary person could ever want us for who we are, which, speaking from personal experience, is not true. attraction to nonbinary people is no more or less fetishising than attraction to men or women, holding nonbinary people to weird different standards is messed up. i'm not sure why this line of thinking is so common among certain nonbinary folk.

you're absolutely right that the argument that you can't be attracted to nonbinary people because nonbinary doesn't have a look makes no sense. people seem to forget that manhood and womanhood don't have looks either, and that people often lose/gain attraction when they find out that someone is a certain gender. this idea also doesn't go that well with limiting these labels to nonbinary people only, because i frankly don't think i'm somehow better at telling that someone is nonbinary from their looks than a binary person. gender can't be seen, even binary gender, unless someone is literally wearing a t-shirt that says "i'm a woman". it's all about holding nonbinary people to different standards rather than treating us equally to men and women or about letting us have autonomy about where we want to be included.

[neopronouns]

A term for experiencing all monosexual attractions separately at once (so for example being lesbian + gay + cenelian + hetero + whatever else at once, without that adding up to being bi or pan or any other mspec term) ~Zev & Hazard

queued!