#anti-oppressive christianity
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Mary is wife, mother, and child to the same male power-figure. She is utterly meek, abject, passive. In her, the ancient power of the Goddess is captured, chained, used, cannibalized — "metaphysically cannibalized," in Ti-Grace Atkinson's critical phrase — domesticated and tranquilized. It is no accident that Mary is portrayed as giving birth in tranquility and bliss, as a reward for her asexuality and total submission (thus "redeeming" the crime of Eve)—while Christ, her son, takes on the suffering and dramatic childbearing role of the Mother. For he twists on the cross in labor, to give birth to a redeemed human race. Pierced by a soldier's sword, blood and water pour from his body—exactly as from a woman in childbirth. The figure displayed on the crucifix in Catholic churches particularly is a male parody of the female experience—of menstrual bleeding, of childbirth, of ontological physical suffering for the human race. But while Christ coopts this female experience into his own power and glory—women, who really do these things, have been forced to hide the signs of our bleeding and childbed "crucifixions" as unclean processes, and badges of corruption, inferiority, and shame. The deified male martyr flaunts his "sacrifice" everywhere, and we are supposed to bow down to it. Women, the real thing, are required by "decency" to hide our messiness out of sight.
-Monica Sjöö and Barbara Mor. The Great Cosmic Mother: Rediscovering The Religion of the Earth.
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LGBTQ Christians, like a lot of Christians, value their feelings and comfort over the very real harm caused by Christianity and the people who've been harmed by it. Good for you that your denomination is affirming and you have every right to practice the religion of your choice but how fucking dare you try to dictate how people should feel about a god and religion that has been used as a tool to oppress the very community you're a part of.
#maybe its not my place to say#but it grinds my gears that LGBTQ Christians act more fucking offended by UwU people critiquing their religion or being rightfully angry#than actual violence and stigma that Christians perpetuate against LGBTQ people#sorry babe your fucking religion has been a tool oppression of queerness for fucking centuries#fuck off with your UwU but my church is accepting#i don't give a shit your experience IS NOT UNIVERSAL#ex christian#religious trauma#anti christianity
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I was blown away by this post and need to talk about it, or I will never sleep lol. I wish I could show you our entire conversation but the OP deleted all my comments so I couldn't screenshot anything.
https://whereserpentswalk.tumblr.com/post/747399887511060481/the-nazis-that-you-see-in-movies-are-as-much-a
"Nazis weren’t atheists or pagans. They were deeply Christian and Christianity was part of their ideology just like it is for modern conservatives. They spoke at lengths about defending their Christian nation from godless leftism. The ones who hated the catholic church hated it for protestant reasons."
The nazis, including Hitler, were absolutely not supporters of Christianity, you don't even need to be a Christian to see why this is so problematic. The main idea of Christianity is that Jesus is the Messiah, the one and only Son who loved the world so much he sacrificed his life to pay the debt of our sins.
Jesus isn't just not Aryan, or not white. He is a Jew. Christians literally worship him, seeing him as both fully human and fully divine.
Hitler taught that Jews were inferior, the scum of the Earth, deserving of inhumane treatment and death. Why would he support a religion that worships a Jewish man as the Messiah?
Furthermore, the gospel teaches that ALL people, regardless of sex, race, ethnicity, etc. We're made equal in the eyes of God, and that we all came from the same two people.
Hitler taught that the Aryans were the superior race, and preached the inferiority of anyone else. Why would he support a religion that so blatantly contradicts his teachings?
But wait- if Hitler and the Nazis were against Christianity, why did they employ Christian rhetoric in speeches? Why did they negotiate a treaty with the Vatican?
If you are a psychopath vying for support and leadership in an overwhelmingly Christian nation, are you really going to talk about how useless you see Christianity, or how it is a threat to your rule? Of course not. Hitler was a demagogue. He wanted to appeal to the common 1930s German citizen, which meant he would need to appeal to Christians.
It wasn't until he had secured power that he could finally show his true colors, breaking his promise to the Vatican to not interfere with the rights of the church. Among the many groups persecuted in the holocaust were Christians, especially Roman Catholics. Clergy in Germany and other territories were closely supervised to make sure they didn't contradict the Nazi teachings, Catholic organizations were shut down, and many prominent Christians were sent to camps for forced labor and execution.
I pointed out some of these the the OP, to which they responded
How stating that the Nazis weren't supporters of Christians and that Christianity cannot coexist with Nazism makes me a holocaust denier, I don't know. I'm not the one denying that a certain group was persecuted by the Nazis (the OP stated in a comment of theirs that the Christians put into camps were only attacked for their ethnicity, not their religion) and trying to make it look like the Nazis actually loved and cared about that group.
I also don't understand how Christianity is inherently antisemitic. I asked the OP what about it was antisemitic, so after deleting all my comments, they blocked me. If you have the answer, let me know, I am genuinely curious.
It makes me sad to see that people actually believe this kind of propaganda. Also, if you're going to make a post about the evils of Nazism, you probably shouldn't use misinformation to villianize and scapegoat a group, or censor people who speak out against said misinformation. Just saying.
#christianity#athiest#conservatives#liberalism#ww2#propoganda#religion#antisemitism#anti christianity#misinformation#bad takes#whereserpentswalk#truth#anti religion#athiesm#christian hate#censorship#dictatorship#ww2 history#ww2 germany#oppression#politics#jewish
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When Christianity is gone, nature will heal. Honestly though, the cognitive dissonance required to be devoted to a slave religion death cult really makes me understand why every historical society had some kind of class/ caste system. These people are incapable of critical thought and only survive because the billionaire oligarchs want them to
#canwediscuss#feminism#anti christianity#reminder that christianity was a tool of conquerors#kill the local leaders and force conversion on everyome#reminder that all of their holidays are pagan#anything a christian loves about christianity is not the christian part#joke about white people not having culture#you can thank the christians#the vibrant cultures of europe are pagan#the mass conversion of africa is a transaction of food for baptism#these people dont believe#they just want food and thats worth getting dunked and putting a book om your shelf#200 years from now “black people dont have a culture”#because christianity#also female oppression in western cultures is christian#as is the effeminization of males
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Leftists get comfortable with religion and religious people. No shut up do it.
#first of all being anti religion inherently disenfranchises already oppressed religious minorities#second#even with Christianity#you are going to find good passionate people who are Christian and agree with your political views#not just violently bigoted mega church goers#and there will be plenty of people who will refuse to give up their religion and that is FINE#and by being aggressive about being against religion pushes good helpful people away#if a better world is to be achieved you must accept there will be religion in it#and that’s not to say YOU have to be religious and it’s not to say we cannot criticize the parts of religion#that are bigoted or result in abuses of power#but religion has always been here and it always will#you just have to accept that#one of my best friends is catholic and she’s a good kind person who wants a better world as much as I do#religious person =/= bad person#joanna speaks
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I can't trust white people (white queers, white feminists, white atheists, white punks) to criticize Islam because they get real racist real fast
#rants n rambles#all of a sudden islam is the only bad religon in the world and that justifies racism#i remember when this ugly white punk was like showing off his battle vest and he had an anti islam patch and he was like#“well im against all forms of oppression and Islam is very oppressive therefore I'm against that” -🤓☝🏻#and then someone pointed out how he has a white supremacist band patch on his vest and how he doesn't have an anti Christianity patch either#this is why I only listen to ex-muslims criticize it
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im not gonna act like its as severe as hindutvas make it out to be but if you deny hinduphobia exists you're just a dumbass i think
#1. christians default mode is hating every other religion and ESPECIALLY the ones they deem satanic (no surprise that includes hinduism)#2. a lot of yall anti theist types only ever give more fuel to the idea that theres hinduphobia so maybe stop being a fuckin anti theist#if you want ppl to stop talking about it#3. any push to erase hindu history or historical sites is hinduphobia idc what you say#4. a lot of people in the west treat hinduism as a joke religion like thats the default emotion yall have for it and the way you approach#it. like ye'all treat buddhism with way more respect than you treat hinduism. tf is up w that. why is that a thing.#probably a combo between thinking eastern asians are more ideal and south/se asians as less ideal and also thinking hinduism is 'cringe'#and 'weird' and 'funny' and 'wacky' or whatever.#stg if i could go in to every piece of media that treats indians in general as a joke and strangle said media i would.#5. there has been many attempts at getting rid of hinduism before by many people and you cant act like that doesnt have a lasting effect#both on the hindus that were oppressed and the ppl who thought they were justified in oppressing their 'savage' religion 😒#and no im not gonna sit here and act like muslims are the problem or whatever tf its a small minority that are shitty so stuff it before#you even try it rebecky.
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Predeterminism and religion go hand in hand for most religions, Christianity, Islam, and Judaism included (the idea of God having a "plan" for you and that "everything happens for a reason") and this is especially harmful to trauma survivors, esp when that "plan" involved experiencing torment, in many cases, unfathomable. Love isn't abuse and that includes God. I'm not sure how this differs from someone abusing you and then calling it love, a lesson, or an opportunity for growth..
#atheism and trauma#atheism is social justice#harms of religion#trauma and religion#atheism is political#atheist vent#predeterminism#judaism#islam#christianity#religious trauma#anti oppression
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I has been 0 days since the last incident of batfandom antis being uncomfortably and conservatively Christian on main
#antis physically cannot stop themselves from wishing hell on queer and jewish people#you know - the exact people that the Christian church has had an active role in oppressing for literal centuries#like I know most antis are cultural christianz who haven't actually done the work to examine the harmful beliefs they were raised with#but they really don't even try to hide it#anyway get your homophobia and antisemitism and misogyny out of my fandom pls and thank u
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Such was the condition of women during eighteen hundred years of Christianity: legislated for as slaves; imprisoned for crimes that, if committed by a man were only punished by branding the hand; buried alive for other crimes that committed by men were atoned for by the payment of a fine; denied a share in the government of the family or the church; their very sex deemed a curse. The twentieth century is now about to open, showing no truly enlightened nation upon the face of the earth. From the barbarism of inhumanity, the world is slowly awakening to the fact that every human being stands upon the plane of equal natural rights. The church has not taught the world this great truth. The state has not conceded it. Its acknowledgment thus far has been due to the teachings of individual men and women that self-constituted authority over others is a crime against humanity.
-Matilda Joslyn Gage, Woman, Church and State
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LOL can't say I've ever seen someone say "dni if you're anti christian" but it took all my might not to be a shithead before hitting that block button
How you gonna be Christian and engage in something 90% of your religion looks down upon? Look inward.
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#God#Jesus#christianity#faith#anti violence#anti abuse#anti oppression#justice#hate all evil#God is a just God#help the oppressed#defend the weak#godly duties#godly responsibilities#God will defeat all evil#bible verse#heartlight
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Oh! So now, cancel culture is not a "right-wing conspiracy" anymore! Now it's happening, and it's a "GOOD THING ACKCHUALLY"!
Yeah, OP, go and spout your self-righteous balderdash to Zamii or to the Covingtongate kids if ya dare. Or any of the other cases you will find here.
Or better yet, how about I consider the fact that I found the original post reblogged, without any addition or nuance, from someone whom I consider a bible-believing sister in Christ. And this is already the second time that this sort of thing has happened within the past fortnight.
You know, by the way, fellas, that the Lord does not look favourably upon slander of the brethren? In other words, repent.
#This is extra rich considering how I and some other brethren had our common blog deleted and permabanned#(all the while we were often harassed and one of us was even doxxed)#merely cuz a bunch of bully gangs & mean girls were indignant that we dared to decry the persecution of Christians.#But I'm sure that it's all right in the end dear brethren who reblog BS like the OP?#Don't you feel so much better for taking the sides of bullies and Christophobes?#Yeah sure because you are 'standing up for the oppressed' and 'speaking truth to power' right?#Why don't you try an alternative for once and REPENT.#cancel culture#gaslighting#celebration parallax#abuser logic#law of merited impossibility#what a time for anti christophobia to get deleted
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Is anyone else getting random posts showing up on their dash from random Christian people on Tumblr I'm Jewish and I am not happy about this no I am not stop it get some help especially you Tumblr
To clarify my tags what I am saying is I do not believe there is such a thing as a good christian. All Christians who claim the title of Christian in the USA benefit from the fact that in the United States laws are literally made to cater towards the beliefs of the Conservative Christian majority in the government who seek to eliminate the rights of people like me. Until you, the quote unquote silent majority of quote unquote good Christians who don't actually believe in this stuff or so you say, speak up on behalf of those of us you can't and reach your really crappy awful terrible quote unquote brothers and siblings otherwise in Christ you're also the bad ones and I don't want any of you on my page.
#anti christian#no christians#go away#none of you are the good ones#seriously#you all benefit from#the systemic oppression of all other religions#jewish issues
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Women were burned with remarkable lack of compunction throughout the Middle Ages. If statistics were kept they have been very successfully concealed; but evidence indicates that the proportion of women to men who were burned alive from about 800 to 1800 was as much as ten thousand to one. Men were sometimes burned as heretics after having been mercifully strangled to death. But women were burned alive on countless pretexts: for threatening their husbands, for talking back to or refusing a priest, for stealing, for prostitution, for adultery, for bearing a child out of wedlock, for permitting sodomy, even though the priest or husband who committed the sodomy was forgiven, for masturbating, for lesbianism, for child-neglect, for scolding and nagging, and even for miscarrying, even though the miscarriage was caused by a kick or a blow from the husband. We read in the old chronicles of women in the last weeks of pregnancy being burned until the heat burst their bellies and propelled the fetus outward beyond the flames. The infant was then picked up and flung back into the fire at its mother's feet. We read of the little daughters of burnt women being forced to dance with bare feet one hundred times around the smoldering stake, through their mothers' ashes and through the still glowing embers in order to "impress upon them the memory of their mothers' sins." And all of this in an age when the only law of the land was the law of the church, when civil courts were merely the agents of the Christian hierarchy.
-Elizabeth Gould Davis, The First Sex
#elizabeth gould davis#femicide#religion is torture for women#female oppression#male violence#patriarchy#anti christianity#middle ages
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Ideally, atheists.
antisemitism and islamophobia are not opposites; they very often go together. you do not cure one with the other. if you hear rhetoric to the contrary, ask yourself: who does this serve?
#before you say anything#I foxus the vast majority of my anti-religion efforts on Christianity#but I do take exception to any religion which leads to oppression of others#that includes islam#jews are cool
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