#anti ship hate

[top-shelf-tender]

{{Anti’s tagging the ships they dislike in their hate posts and then wondering why shippers tell them off are really just like:}}

[veroverse21]

I’ve noticed that in the MHA fandom a lot of the people that have an overreaction to straight ships and get defensive over their gay ships always respond with “all these homophobic dudebros just want their straight ships,” or something cringey like that.

Like who still says dudebros?

It’s 2023.

Yeah that is super cringey of them. With what's going on in the manga currently there's going to be a ship war no doubt and we'll be seeing lots of that cringe woke shit.

[ace-maverick]

For the Fuegoleon x Nozel shippers and my commentary on whether Fuegoleon and Nozel are related (they are not) ❤️💙🔥☿️

I dug this up from the trenches of my camera roll. 🫣 Enjoy Fuegoleon x Nozel shippers!

*P.S. I removed this last time because of all the antis and hate it was receiving. I will not be so easily swayed again. If you don't like the Fuenoze ship, kindly keep scrolling.*

P.P.S To settle the long-standing debate whether Fuegoleon and Nozel are related, the simple answer is no.

(1) They share a common ancestor in Lumiere Silvamillion Clover, but he lived over 500 years ago and their bloodlines diverged, deriving the Silva and Vermillion royal houses.

(2) Yes, they both share Mimosa and Kirsch Vermillion as cousins; but, just because you share a cousin does NOT make you cousins. Fuegoleon and Nozel 👏 are 👏 not 👏 cousins 👏. They are EXTREMELY distant relatives and nowhere close to the inbreeding the House of Habsburg partook in from the 15th to 18th centuries. Look up "Habsburg Jaw" and you will see what I am talking about.

(3) I have been a member of this fandom since three years after its conception i.e. I have been a fan since 2018, which will be seven years in June of this year. I am intricately familiar with the lore from the Magic Knights Entrance Arc to halfway through the Spade Kingdom Raid Arc, and can confidently confirm Fuegoleon and Nozel 👏 are 👏 not 👏 cousins 👏. I am not here for shipping wars and I will not participate in shipping wars. Everyone is entitled to enjoy and partake in their own ships — platonic, romantic, bouyant🎣. The point is, don't poo-poo on other fandom members' Black Clover ships (whether they are canon or fanon). But absolutely no incest or pedophilia ships 😤 ... those are just 🤢🤮

Anywho, thanks for coming to my TED Talk. I will now shamelessly promote my Wattpad and AO3 accounts.

I have an ongoing Fuegoleon x Nozel work "Silver Clouds with Grey Linings" published on both platforms and a completed one-shot series of reader x Black Clover character and Black Clover character x Black Clover character one-shots posted on Wattpad. Give them a read!

And don't forget to like, comment, follow, and keep the Black Clover fandom alive! 🎉

[discourse-floofy-cat]

I’d tell antis to go fuck themselves, but they would call that “problematic” too

If you are someone who believes that you shouldn't ship characters that "act like siblings"--

Please describe to me what interactions between two characters who are not related signal to you that to you that they "act like siblings" and explain how those interactions differ from interactions that could be and are otherwise read as romantic in fandom ships.

[mfshipbracket]

[cozmo-system]

fuck. you.

yeah let’s just ignore real qualified therapists telling trauma victims they can cope without harm via fiction. everyone listen to some random dipshit on pinterest because the TOTALLY know more than anyone with years of education and experience

[hightowerz]

of course the show that is fundamentally centered around two sisters and their tragedies becomes centered around men and said sisters are sidelined and their arcs are pushed to the sidelines and all the phenomenal care that went into their characters went down the drain. ​one’s arc is literally “the traumatized / mentally unwell character’s happy ending is committing suicide because they are simply too broken to heal and be happy” trope, and her mental instability is forgotten. the other is reduced to a mere plot device, has no agency of her own, and her trauma and anger is treated like a complete and utter joke for the sake of a shitty ship, and because the writers literally, point blank, were bored with her. it’s so sad because the tragedy of these sisters is so utterly devastating, so encompassing and so intricately woven into the narrative. but make it about two men i suppose?

[autisticrosewilson]

"Oh Steph wouldn't like Jason just because they have similar backgrounds because he kills people/is a criminal/fights the bats!!"

This is in the 90's BEFORE he even tortured her. She doesn't go through with it, but she sees the evil he's capable of and its enough for her to justify it. She only doesn't because it "goes against what Batman taught her" but well.

That's the same man who would let her dad's friends infest her house for MONTHS until BLACK CANARY came to Gotham and handled it

A grown man who would go on to verbally degrade her, withhold the tools he gave everyone else, keep her intentionally isolated and then use her lack of resources against her.

So yeah. I'm sure Steph's faith in Batman and his teachings have wavered plenty. Just because DC casually discarded the way she was treated so she could play happy family with the boys, but she has NO REASON TO. Before she was aged down there was definite tension between her and Tim, and while Babs worked to get that relationship back, Bruce did no such thing. "Oh I'm just as proud of you as I was with the boys" when he thought she was dying doesn't fucking change how he treated her.

And of course, there's her own forray into betraying the family and being a criminal in The Next Batman series.

That's without getting into how she was compared to Jason, the way she watched a murdered east end kid be toted as another violent, reckless, idiot who didn't think and got himself killed.

"Oh but he tried to kill Tim!" First of all, you didn't read that comic. Jason was TESTING him, they were 2 years apart MAXIMUM, and Tim FOUGHT BACK. Jason gave him a little cut and a nose bleed that he slapped a bandage on and was fine. Damian also started his first meeting with Tim antagonistically and even though he was actively hostile to her, Steph still formed a close sibling bond. Her first meeting with Tim she threw a brick at him. He spent a not significant amount of time belittling her and telling her she wasn't cut out for hero work when she came back. This is the same guy who hallucinated Jason just so Jason could be like "Oh I got myself killed don't be like me!" Can we be real she doesn't give a shit. I guess you could count Hush but. I know they retconned it so that was Jason but when the fuck would he have had the time to do that between death, catanoia, the All-caste, and his murder tour.

Stephanie understands better than anyone that desperate circumstances lead to desperate people who do bad things. Stephanie understands being belittled and compared to a rich white boy who never had to fight to survive like you did. She understands being isolated from the hero community. She understands the evil that exists and the ways the system is corrupt, and that the bad guy never STAYS caught. And it's not like she has any big problem with people who kill, Babs said in 90's she would fucking LOVE Joker to drop dead and Dinah has killed multiple times. She literally switched places with Lady Shiva? These are both women Steph looks up to. You don't think Steph would feel any admiration at all for someone who gave Bruce a taste of what it feels like to be shown up? Someone who made Roman's life hell? Someone who made Tim put action behind his shit talking? An alley kid who came back and refused to be another statistic, who showed everyone who spent the last decade calling him stupid and reckless EXACTLY how cunning he can be? None? At all?

I just find it a little hard to believe.

[dutchbabey]

Finally blocked the dramione tag on tumblr

[peantisdeliriouts]

Ah yes. Very punk to accuse a group of mostly minorities of being predators who are anti-recovery because they are anti-censorship.

Real punks don’t make fake accusations. Real punks don’t shame others for their coping mechanisms. Real punks don’t adhere to right-wing ideology being advertised as progressive. Real punks don’t accept censorship.

[discourse-floofy-cat]

Or even a cop character that stays with the police force due to their belief in the capacity for change

Cough, cough Zootropolis

Things that aren't copaganda:

A cop character genuinely wanting to help and protect people, being deliberately and explicitly prevented from doing so by the police force, and leaving the force because they realize it's beyond fixing and they'll never be able to actually do any good as a cop.

Characters existing that have pro-cop opinions with no indications that you're meant to agree with them one way or another.

In RPGs, the player character having dialogue options that can include pro-cop opinions but also include differing opinions.

Basically, a piece of media having a population with varying opinions on cops, almost like not every person has good or agreeable opinions, imagine that.

[veroverse21]

Why is izuocha ship for MHA feels forced and why does bakudeku makes more sense?

Izuocha is extremely forced while BakuDeku is gorgeous and amazing and it makes sense.

Izuocha isn't forced. Bakudeku has 0 romantic chemistry.

[tessarionbestgirl]

Tb is sooo boring, because what you mean that you don't see the appealing of enemies to lovers, trauma bonding, war of roses parallel and the Romeo and Juliet coded on jaehaera and Aegon III?

[extremely-judgemental]

Imagine Eris playing fetch with his hounds but it is Tamlin who catches it because. . . instincts. No, not beast mode. Just flings himself in the air and catches it in his mouth.

[macbcth]

what your favourite dunmeshi ship says about you

farcille: you're classic, you make sense, you like to see the lesbians winning and also you're a bit of a monster fucker: you may or may not specifically have a wing kink

chilshi: you like your men hairy and fat, also you are not immune to panty-shot propaganda, your love language is acts of service

chilaios: you have a size kink

labru: you prefer mlm ships over any other pairing, you think character foils should fuck, you may be a sucker for blue eyes

laimar: your favourite trope is friends to lovers, also you like to see the bisexuals winning, you're also.. what the poets might call.... weird

marchil: your favourite trope is enemies to lovers, your love language is banter, and you're the kind of person who says 'i can fix him' far too often

kabumisu: your ship could burn down the world and violate the geneva convention and you would still call both of them babygirl, also you like angst

laios x monsters: you like tentacle porn

[tackykachowch]

How it feels to not like timebomb after s2