#anti irish

[victusinveritas]

[troythecatfish]

Irish MEP Clare Daly calls for tangible action against Israel

Pointing out that formal Irish recognition of Palestine is already decades late, the Independent MEP proposed that more needs to be done. She suggested an arms embargo and the suspension of Irish trade with Israel.

Source: Mintpress

[millingroundireland]

What was the Irish Potato famine and why does it matter?

Anti-Irish riot in Philadelphia in 1841, Lithograph by H. Bucholzer in 1844.

Many have written about the Irish Potato Famine, which some call the Great Famine or Great Hunger. Most seem to agree it began in 1845, although some say it ended in 1849, and others say it ended in 1850, 1851 or 1852. [1] Some say the causes were due to the fact that "most of the Irish countryside was owned by an English and Anglo-Irish hereditary ruling class"and most were "absentee landlords that set foot on their properties once or twice a year, if at all," while the average tenant farmer, like John Mills, lets say, "lived at a subsistence level on less than ten acres...there was never any incentive to upgrade their living conditions," and they often allowed "landless laborers, known as cottiers, to live on their farms," with poor Irish laborers becoming "totally dependent on the potato for their existence." Others, like Harry George, said that "...at the period of her greatest population (1840-45) Ireland contained something over eight millions of people" but a large "proportion of them managed merely to exist, lodging in miserable cabins, clothed with miserable rags, and with but potatoes for their staple food" and when the "potato blight came, they died by thousands" not due to the "inability of the soil to support so large a population" but it was a "horde of landlords, among whom the soil had been divided as their absolute possession, regardless of any rights of those who lived upon it." He also wrote something, trying to disprove the Malthusian theory, that

Consider the conditions of production under which this eight million managed to live until the potato blight came. Cultivation was for the most part carried on by tenants-at-will, and they, even if the rack-rents they were forced to pay had permitted them, did not dare to make improvements, which would have been but the signal for an increase of rent. Labour was thus applied in the most inefficient and wasteful manner and labour, that with any security for its fruits would have been applied unremittingly, was dissipated in aimless idleness. But even under these conditions, it is a matter of fact that Ireland did more than support eight millions. For when her population was at its highest, Ireland was a food-exporting country. Even during the famine, grain and meat and butter and cheese were carted for exportation along roads lined with the starving and past trenches into which the dead were piled. For these exports of food, or at least for a great part of them, there was no return. So far as the people of Ireland were concerned, the food thus exported might as well have been burned up or thrown into the sea, or never produced. It went not as an exchange, but as a tribute - to pay the rent of absentee landlords; a levy wrung from producers by those who in no wise contributed to production. Had this food been left to those who raised it, had the cultivators of the soil been permitted to retain and use the wealth their labour produced, had security stimulated industry and permitted the adoption of economical methods, there would have been enough to support in bounteous comfort the largest population Ireland ever had. The potato blight might have come and gone without stinting a single human being of a full meal. For it was not, as English economists coldly said, "the imprudence of Irish peasants" that induced them to make the potato the staple of their food. Irish emigrants, when they can get other things, do not live upon the potato, and certainly in the United States the prudence of the Irish character, in endeavouring to lay by something for a rainy day, is remarkable. They lived on the potato because rack-rents stripped everything else from them. Had Ireland been by nature a grove of bananas and bread-fruit, had her coasts been lined by the guano deposits of the Chinchas and the sun of lower latitudes warmed into more abundant life her moist soil, the social conditions that have prevailed there would still have brought forth poverty and starvation. How could there fail to be pauperism and famine in a country where rack-rents wrested from the cultivator of the soil all the produce of his labour except just enough to maintain life in good seasons; where tenure-at-will forbade improvements and removed incentive to any but the most wasteful and poverty-stricken culture; where the tenant dared not accumulate capital, even if he could get it, for fear the landlord would demand it in the rent; where in fact he was an abject slave who, at the nod of a human being like himself, might at any time be driven from his miserable mud cabin, a houseless, homeless, starving wanderer, forbidden even to pluck the spontaneous fruits of the earth, or to trap a wild hare to satisfy his hunger? No matter how sparse its population, no matter what its natural resources, would not pauperism and starvation be necessary consequences in any land where the producers of wealth were compelled to work under conditions which deprived them of hope, of self-respect, of energy, of thrift; where absentee landlords drained away without return at least a fourth of the net produce of the soil; and when, besides them, a starving industry had to support resident landlords, with their horses and hounds, agents, jobbers, middlemen and bailiffs, and an army of policemen and soldiers to overawe and hunt down any opposition to the iniquitous system?

Others said it was related to a monoculture. Some readers may say that this doesn't matter based on the fact that Margaret Bibby and John Mills came before the famine began, likely in the early to mid 1830s, varied years before any famines. Although, considering the famines in 1830-1834, 1836, and 1839, which I talk about below, this may have been a favor. However, this does matter because at least some Mills family members were undoubtedly effected by this event.

This post was originally published on WordPress in June 2018.

Famine was nothing new to Ireland. It has been "common in Ireland in the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries—for example in 1740–41 (bliain an áir ‘the year of the slaughter’), 1756–7, 1800, 1807, 1821–2, 1830–34, 1836, and 1839—but it was also common elsewhere in Europe," with the western seaboard the worst affected. But what began in 1845, ending possibly in 1852, was a horrible catastrophe, which the government failing to deal with the problem, leading to further crisis. Some say that with the "devastating fungus destroyed Ireland's potato crop," leading to "starvation and related diseases," over hundreds of thousands, if not a million, may have been killed, with others blaming capitalism as the cause of what happened.

Regardless of what you blame, the reality is that there was a strong population decline from 1841 to 1851 in Ireland,  changing the social and cultural structure of the island as a whole. In the process, however, the landscape of parts of the U.S. was changed as well from incoming Irish immigrants, as 3/4 of those who left Ireland came to the U.S. The heart of Ireland's economy had been sunk. But, Irish history was to go on.

With the information about Ireland's other famines, specifically the ones 1830-1834, 1836, and 1839, before the "potato famine" beginning in 1845, it could help us answer some of the the remaining questions, determining more push and pull factors from County Tipperary in Southern Ireland, connect to the stories of John and Margaret's children, and down the line.

© 2018-2023 Burkely Hermann. All rights reserved.

Notes

[1] Joel Mokyr, "Great Famine," Encyclopaedia Brittanica, accessed May 11, 2018; "Sources in the National Archives for researching the Great Famine by Marianne Cosgrave, Rena Lohan and Tom Quinlan: Introduction," National Archives of Ireland, Sept 1995; Brian McDonald, "British fail to attend Famine ceremony," Independent, May 17, 2010; "The Irish in Philadelphia"; "Fertility trends, excess mortality, and the Great Irish Famine"; John Gibney, "Where was your family during the famine?," Sept 2008; "The Great Irish Famine," Nov 1998; Dan Ritschel, "The Irish Famine: Interpretative and Historiographical Issues," 2009; Mark Ward, "Irish Repay Choctaw Famine Gift: March Traces Trail of Tears in Trek for Somalian Relief," American-Stateman Capitol Staff, 1992; Jim Donnelly, "The Irish Famine," BBC, Feb 17, 2011; "The Irish Potato Famine," Digital History, 2016; Eleanor Bley Griffiths, "What was the Irish Potato Famine?," RadioTimes, May 11, 2018.

[seachranaidhe]

TUV candidate lambasts GAA club and Linda Ervine for 'misrepreseation' of east Belfast

The mother of the director of BBC NI demonstrating her ignorance of gaelic culture and her unashamed bigotry. She’s a perfect fit for the TUV. TUV candidate lambasts GAA club and Linda Ervine for ‘misrepresentation’ of east Belfast https://twitter.com/jgtsport/status/1658580874273648640?s=20

[arguablysomaya]

black haired jason my love and light

brown haired jason the keeper of my heart

red haired jason

white streak jason my reason for being

[vyorei]

More protests!

[nando161mando]

Pro-Israel Twitter is calling for Ireland to be conquered to 'solve the issue of living space' and so they will 'no longer make fun of Israel'.

https://x.com/metaltxt/status/1843746509348843817

[defleftist]

The only appropriate way to spend St. Patrick’s Day is to continue to stand up against the occupation and oppression of all people around the world. 🇵🇸🇮🇪

[thererisesaredstar]

While Revolutionaries as individuals can be murdered, you cannot kill ideas. -Thomas Sankara

Mural in Belfast, Northern Ireland

[tales-from-syscord]

I believed this happened a couple of years ago? But I'd thought it was a very peculiar experience for me to share.

So, I used to be in this traumagenic server with what seems like a lot of blacklists and claims to be POC friendly. It was one of our few DID/OSDD focused discord servers that we joined when we first suspected we have DID. (We got diagnosed a year later.)

I remembered being in a ticket with one of the mods because they looked at the names of our alters through pk. They then LITERALLY did some google research on the name origins and made it something like this.

" Hi! We noticed your names may be considered cultural appropriating blablabla

Casey = Irish

Ari = Jewish

Please consider changing your names!"

And then had the nerve to even ask me what my race is, but I felt so uncomfortable?? I said Asian. They want me to specify further. I said Southeast Asian. And if my memory serves me right, they wanted me to specify more than that.

When I looked at that message where I had to change my own and my alter's names, I felt like they were JOKING?? HOW IS CASEY A CLOSED NAME??? It's.. a generic name used by pretty much everyone in the world.

They mentioned how Irish is a closed culture, and I think they mentioned Irish discrimination during the US immigration and all. I understand, but at the same time, Irish itself isn't a closed culture at all?? Not to mention, I've been using Casey as my name for quite some time now.

Ari being linked to Jewish makes no sense to me either. People sometimes use it to shorten the name 'Ariana' for short, but I also see many non-Jewish people also using that name too.

Ari is an alternative spelling of our body's name, so we don't feel weird using our irl body's name (which is Arabic) to the people online. It's not a sense of shame of the body's name but more privacy concerns, easier pronounciation, and having our own individuality.

It's worth mentioning that a lot of Muslim and Christian names are derived from Judaism, too. The Muslim and Christian names just have a different spelling to it, so I don't know what the hell they were thinking.

I felt so mad and felt this was all too ridiculous. I had to keep my cool and leave because what kinda server is this??? That claims to be POC safe?? I'm sorry if I don't sound the most open-minded, but it's just a weird experience to me, really. When I think of cultural appropriating, I would think of taking a name from, let's say, a Romani name or a Tamil name, and then use it without realizing the significance of that culture just because it looks pretty for some aesthetic. Not whatever tf this server was pulling.

As an Irish system, what the fuck?? Casey is definitely not a "closed culture Irish name," LMAO?? You're not overreacting DW anon, that's just wild.

[cowpokezuko]

There are three genres of folk music:

Colonialism but we're sad about it

I have lost my one true love and now I'm going to play a sad banjo song

Workers of the world Unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains! You can and should beat the shit out of capitalists and their thugs.

[dougielombax]

“bUt NAeBodY sPakeS iT¡ tiS a DEaD LAnguaGe, sHUrE¡ WHiT’s tHe PoiNt? Let iT DiE.”

Okay.

Okay.

Could you perhaps tell us WHY the language you fear so greatly is threatened or dead?

No. Do go on.

Tell us.

Why is it dead? What happened to those who spoke it? Why weren't they able to pass it down the generations?

Why is this so?

Because they sure as shit didn’t just stop speaking it for the sheer hell of it!

You don’t know?

Oh dear.

No it’s not natural.

And it’s not about nativism, you daft shite!

Imagine being scared of a language!

Why does it threaten you so?

Why do you act like it shakes the foundations of your state?

Tell me.

Pathetic!

…

Many such cases.

MANY such cases!

[troythecatfish]

[librastrai]

a larger post inspired by @tovezza's dives into the irish treatment of jews in their country cause i am an irish born jew, as well as an irish traveller & the hypocrisy i've seen from goyim regarding recent antisemitism + the i/p conflict is crazy.

they will call jews in the middle east settlers while throwing fits that minceiri, their own indigenous minority population, calls them settled & will throw out the most vile racism in opposition to it. settled irish + their government will prop up the colonization of themselves by the british as a shield against any accusations of racism (as recent as the very current riots in dublin spurred on by anti immigrant racism), & antisemitism (to denying ireland's own lack of action during the holocaust,) & the antisemitism raging in their every day society & now in government who are saying they're "more principled" regarding one of the most complicated sociopolitical conflicts in a region mired by it.

oh really? really, holohan? sympathy for palestinians is rooted in your own history of being colonized (which is used a shield consistently)? you can be more principled about the oppression of an indigenous people (which both palestinians & israelis are)?

explain the 1963 commission by the irish state, regarding the "itinerant problem" of which there was a system plan regarding the forced assimilation of irish travellers / minceiri into settled irish society.

explain how the plan was to sterilize minceiri women against their will, castrate minceiri men & forcibly steal our children, putting them into settled homes or insitutions run by the catholic church which spurred on untold amounts of abuse. abuse we are still healing from. how actions taken against us directly repeat actions taken by the nazis against romani women + men in their camps.

explain the ongoing genocide of minceiri folks that began way before this commission, hundreds of years of violent oppression, of theft, of cultural genocide & restriction to move. how the rate of minceiri folks imprisoned far outweighs our national population. how the camp sites we're forced onto, because our cultural way of life is restricted & criminalized, have no running water, no electricity, barely any food. how they're places you wouldn't even raise dogs, let alone expect humans to survive. not thrive, survive. how all of this is sounding very fucking familiar.

ireland's issue with jewish refugees from the shoah is built upon their insistence that their own indigenous minority, minceiri, refused to assimilate despite being beaten, raped, stolen & they knew they would not be able to do the same to jewish people.

i love my country, i have always loved my country & it's history & the gorgeous place it could become. it is not that place while it is perpetuating antisemitism time & time again, using it's own history of being colonized as a shield against criticism & ignoring it's own bloody, disgusting history of violent colonization & cultural genocde.

jewish people deserve better, irish jews deserve better & minceiri deserve better.

[bugwolfsstuff]

Im bored, lets play a game

How do you think Rachel Smythe, creator of Lore Olympus would fuck up your country's mythology/gods if she did a lore olympus-esque webtoon of it?

[jadeyarts]

what if i drew a fop self insert like not even to do anything specific just to exist in the art style. lol