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ahasiw-okitowin · 9 days ago
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I have some concerns to address about tumblr user @lacroixgrimoire , James Lacroix. @baconvonmoose is another blog of theirs. James claims to be Potawatomi, and has spread some incorrect information regarding a Native spirit that many of our people are nervous about naming.
James I have a few questions for you. Are you aware of the difference between Algonquin and Algonquian? You state multiple times that your tribe (the Potawatomi) are a subdivision of the Algonquin. The Algonquin are an Anishinaabe people, who speak a language that has been categorized as belonging to the AlgonquiAn language family. My language, nêhiyawêwin, is also a part of the Algonquian language family, but my people are not Algonquin.
The Potawatomi are also Anishinaabe, which is not spelled Ashinaabe, and while they are related to the Algonquin they are not the same people.
You also seem to think that the Ojibwe (often called Chippewa in the states) are different than the "Ashinaabe". The Ojibwe are in fact the largest Anishinaabe group.
Niya oma nêhiyaw, I am a Cree, and in my culture we do not call people by their names when addressing them, we refer to them by their relation to us. We extend this same respect to many spirits and historical figures. Some spirits we do not say the name of during certain times of year when we believe they rest, as not to disturb them. Others we do not name as to not draw their attention. Names are considered to be very powerful in my culture, and it's for this reason many Natives feel uncomfortable using the name of dangerous creatures like the lip eater.
But of course, considering how closely our peoples are related, you must be aware of this.
You have also stated that the Algonquin are the first people to have told stories about the cannibal spirit you were referencing, but you must be aware that our cultures contain 10,000 plus years of oral history, and there is no way to know who told that story first.
James, I couldn't help but notice that you don't seem to reference being Indigenous on either of these blogs until late 2024. As well, on two Facebook pages and an Instagram page under your name, with your picture on them, I could not find any references to your Indigenous heritage. Is there a reason you have only started speaking about being Potawatomi recently, and on tumblr?
Out of respect to you, as someone who claims to be Potawatomi and therefore my relative, I'm not going to call you a pretendian. Rather I am going to say that if you are indeed Potawatomi as you claim, you need to learn the basics of your own heritage before you try to teach others cultural knowledge. As I'm sure you know, teaching and storytelling are taken very seriously in both our cultures, and traditional knowledge is generally passed down through elders and knowledge keepers, who are ALWAYS aware of who their people are and where they come from.
This is how we keep misinformation from spreading.
Ekosi.
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silvermoon424 · 6 months ago
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This is a prime example of how social media and internet clout-seeking has absolutely DESTROYED some people's sense of empathy. A famous TikToker had her newborn baby die of SIDS, and for some fucking reason people decided it would be a great time to cancel her for problematic stuff she'd said in the past. Someone crashed the baby's funeral to vlog it and shit on the mother.
I will say that I think some of the mother's past behavior warrants an apology, but I can't get over how ghoulish it is to drag someone whose baby just died. And how much of an actual fucking freak you'd have to be to vlog and try to get clout off of a baby's funeral. I'm the furthest thing from a luddite, but Jesus, social media has really set us back as a species.
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multifandomhellhole · 2 months ago
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I rarely say my takes unprompted but I genuinely can't stand modern fandom and need to scream into the void over it to thug it out.
it genuinely feels like fandom is in its gen alpha age of regression. I've noticed this heavily with other fandoms, for me I've seen it most in resident evil but now I'm seeing it in arcane too of ship wars being taken WAAAAY to seriously and just everything in general being surrounded by weird purity culture. Not to mention someone always trying to find some deep controversial reason into why you don't like a popular character or treating it like it's a direct attack. That weird portion can be left in 2020 with kinnies and IRL character shit.
What really pisses me off is that people especially on twitter, scream for fandom culture to be back, but the slightest mary sue, terrible animatic, out of character x reader, large age gap, weird fanfic, horrible but fun take, insensitive joke about a well loved character, and/or rare pair art gets crucified there. And y'all wonder why fandom is dead. Genuinely who wants to provide any material for an ungrateful bible thumping community and a hostile one at that? Or one that's so obsessed with canon.
Fandom etiquette is absolutely dead on any other website minus this one and even then I'm seeing some popular tweets that erase the fun of it here on Tumblr for some reason. Since I'm focused on arcane right now I'll be using that as an example. So what if people want to think jinx and Jayce would be friends? That doesn't mean they didn't understand the show or are less superior watchers to you. That means they don't have a stick up their ass. Who cares If someone makes a Viktor coughing joke? He does in fact cough a lot and it's placement can be funny. You are not morally ascended cause you didn't laugh at pixels fictional lung cancer. In fact you are morally shity for telling someone to kill themselves for joking about it.
Who cares if someone ships cait and Maddie over vi or vi with maddie. Or cait with ambessa or Viktor with sky or Viktor with silco. Literally the world kept spinning. Genuinely who gives a fuck it's an animated show about league not a real time war documentary 💀 Creepypasta literally turned a bunch of murders into a found family let's not forget how being delusional makes fandom more fun.
Like I said, Unfortunately since Im in an arcane place of focus this post will be using arcane examples but this does apply to every fandom.
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myobsessionsspace · 2 months ago
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You can’t reason with crazy
I don’t go here, never gone here. But anyone who knows anything about real person shipping has heard of larrys. People who ship ex One Direction members Louis Tomlinson and Harry Styles.
One Direction went on permanent hiatus in 2016 and towards the end of their active period the two who once had a close friendship drifted apart, Louis mentioning that shipping played in the awkwardness that developed between them.
Even after publicly shutting larrys down
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Larrys still exist… They. Still. Exist.
After Louis publicly shut down rumours & conspiracies several times online, in print, on tv interviews etc.
After ARGUING with Louis on twitter, Louis having a child and several girlfriends, Harry having several girlfriends and them openly
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Meanwhile Louis & Harry:
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Say something, don’t say something. Spend time together publicly or don’t speak to each other for years. Have a family, public relationships, live in different continents.
Louis & Harry live their lives with how they want with who they want not who Larrys want
Ignore or acknowledge them.
Larrys still exist.
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transsexualfiend · 6 months ago
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I strongly encourage you to unfollow and even block people who are constantly posting callouts and bewares for every little thing. YES there are shitty people out there. I'm not denying that. But it is also not safe to be around someone who is constantly digging through other people's social medias to find "bad things", especially when their idea of "bad things" is rooted in fear and misunderstanding, rather than an actual experience with said person.
For example I followed this person who would put people's FULL ACCOUNTS on blast and even dox them and say "BLOCK AND REPORT THIS PERSON because they're a CREEP and most likely a PEDOPHILE, R4PIST, ZOOPHILE, and POSSIBLE ABUSER!!!". Now naturally you want to believe someone when they say they are the victim of something. But that isn't what's happening here. This is a case of "Your kinkyness grossed me out and your sexuality is too vulgar for my tastes, so I will be attempting to put your life and privacy at risk". For this specific example, no evidence was provided to summarize why all of these extreme words were used, so out of curiosity I went to the account and... the person was just a trans woman posting furry porn and other nsft ramblings. That is not an offense. That is not abuse or pedophilia or zoophilia. Remind me again how it's "social justice" to keep calling openly sexual trans women predatory?
And I say block these kinds of people (the ones who feel the need to play "neighborhood watch" online) because chances are, eventually they will investigate YOUR business, and you might be found "guilty" of their personal morality crime.
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Neurodivergent shifting culture is spending days researching for every bit of information possible to a dr, in all the wikis, in every bit of media ever released about said dr, and then having to make a coherent timeline with the information that contradicts each other, to finally feel ready to shift.
That’s me. I just did that.
Neurodivergent Shifting Culture is…
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aph-poland · 2 days ago
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i wish you guys had a better understanding of the overlap of cultures between "correct greek sources uwu" and "incorrect roman propaganda >:(" during a time when our modern borders and concepts of nationalities did not exist. at a time when the greek language was just that, and the "country of greece" as we know it today was broken up and quarreling and politically divisive among it's own people and the achaean culture of conquering and usurping for power made for PLENTY of differing interpretations of myths and exaggerated stories, so please explain to me how this is not a breeding ground of propaganda as well? are you aware that all media endorsed by a state is propaganda? are you aware of the assumed projection and greek-on-greek biases of the conclusions of such myths that were ALSO made centuries later after original meaning and authors have been lost? are you aware that we live in a world STEEPED with propaganda right fucking now or how many of the present-day retellings are also serving as propaganda for something as well? did you know that "roman" authors as sponsored and claimed by the empire actually studied in greek temples and school halls and were of greek heritage and were experts on epics now lost to us that we can only piece together in fragments? did you know that religion plays a major role in how a story is purposely presented to new believers and that their legends intertwined with their worship and sanctity of the sacred evolves and becomes a cultural exchange of ideas? did you know "Homeros" the "author" credited with writing down these stories were stories that already existed and were passed down likely from the descendants of fallen heroes? meaning that the political ramifications of the trojan war (if it really happened) were still charged and present in each of these lovingly skewed versions that were woven together by this penname? did you know that homer might have been more than one person or a school of students over a period of decades transcribing chapters or that even that name itself is not what we think it is but instead meant to present this version of the trojan war from a "blinder side" like the name is a pun on the nature of the perspective, or who knows what other implications that we've now lost without the context.
you guys have GOT to put better respect on the collective human accomplishment of keeping these stories alive with living and breathing thoughts and narratives already known orally expanded upon in scholarly review of its time, especially since this is the exact shit you're ALL literally mimicking on tumblr dot com? how are you gonna say "virgil and ovid don't know what they're talking about" when you sit there and write fanfiction and draw "AU's" for a summary of a summary of a summary of a work you never read yet deem most superior writing of all lol. its very disingenuous to police what's "canon" and whats "not canon" by imposing rules that are of your own interpretation to gatekeep "greek myths" that have always been shared with the middle east and pockets of mediterranean communities and other nomadic groups studied by actual anthropologists. theres a reason why historians have been studying and changing their interpretations and re-evaluating internal biases with what's been assumed of these origins for years and theres a reason why white supremacy has played a subtle role (and later orthodox anti-catholicsm played into the sentiment of the rejection of roman interpretations of the shared religious mythos lol rip) but i really don't think any of you are ready or willing to think or talk about that lol lets go back to percy jackson instead huh <3
#you all graduated from the university of google it seems#cant even think of how to tag this lol but its anti-intellectualism to be literally prejudice in whats a pure myth and whats impure#when this religion was shared by all of them#you all forget greece was obsorbed by the roman empire does that mean those precious greeks were no longer greek? theyre roman too?#or do you suddenly understand the intersection of greek language vs greek culture vs greek blood vs greek religion vs greek immigration#vs greek politics vs greek history vs greek rhapsodes vs greek artisans vs greek enocomical trading vs greek revisionism and patriotism#and how every single one of these is completely different than the last and effects the nature of what you are attempting to study#but you're all experts im sure lol the scholars that preserved these stories and messages for u and loved them MORE were not as smart as u#pick and choose what you want to read but please listen to yourself first before you exclude entire cultures from their contributions#or at the very least stop telling people what not to read when you come from no authority or place of knowledge whatsoever <3 no one asked#yall tweet and make posts like theres no way you could be wrong its weird and pushy lol yall need a therapist to yell this out with instead#like dont be a fucking bully my dude its just dead demigods representing the fears of man across time and peoples#smoke a joint#roman mythology#?#dont even wanna put this in the greek mythology tag lol pjo fans with 14000 followers will dox me or call me antigreek or something made up
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thebellekeys · 2 months ago
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Well, I'm just saying you can try, but I doubt people will actually listen. People are gonna support who they support regardless. Why would you even be following people who stan people you don't like anyway? You could just unfollow and block those people, you know.
I'm not following any celebrity stan accounts or any people whose blogs are part of celebrity stan culture. My posts are not related to who my mutuals follow.
And I don't particularly care if "people are gonna support who they support regardless". Doesn't make it cool or necessarily right. Criticizing the cult of celebrity is always valid.
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ladyloveandjustice · 7 months ago
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i'm not one of those 'media literacy is dead and our youth is wrong' people but the tags on that atla poll are. making me want to say it.
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shadelorde · 9 months ago
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Kataang shippers point out the actual misogyny and colonialism in popular Zutara shipping without saying they’re “delusional” for their ship not being canon challenge (failed)
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princessgemma12 · 2 years ago
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On Disabled Antis
It confuses me so fucking much how so many disabled antis there are.
It's like. You support people with NPD? Oh, you're chill with personality disorders? People with violent intrusive thoughts? You're supportive of trauma survivors? Oh cool, me too!
Oh you... you're an anti and think they should keep those things lock up inside they're head instead of processing that shit? Great. Greatgreatgreatgreat.
Fuck you dude
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tianshiisdead · 1 year ago
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tbh, defending against an abuser by making public the slurs they called you and how they told you to your face they hoped your people would be genocided, and then getting your words dismissed as 'fandom drama and cancel culture' and being told you speaking up is 'what makes fandom toxic'... this is why poc online either don't say anything or are driven out of fandom spaces lol
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friendofyourboyfriend · 3 days ago
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Hi! My name is Arrow! I noticed you're a fan of the Boyfriend's Webtoon (Dw, I'm not here to be hostile, I'm simply curious) Could you explain why people think it's problematic? I didn't enjoy it that much while reading it, mainly due to the grammar and the weird stereotypes, but I'm curious to what your opinion is!
hiya arrow! a lot of people are waaaay more eloquent than I am. I know its not for everyone and I don't want people to feel obligated to like something that just isn't a good fit. however, I'll do a lil overview of all the shit refrainbow's been accused of. warning, will make you want to slam your head into a wall!
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drawing porn of a bts member when Ray was 17 and the BTS member was also 17 (I think it was Jungkook). while Real Person NSFW art seriously icks me out on a personal level, I need to say that there are currently 61,508 EXPLICIT FICS of the BTS boys on ao3. the culture of sexualizing them is really fuckin weird and I'm not touching it with a ten foot poll, but odds are if you're a specific age, you or a person close to you has been somewhat guilty of this sin.
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Using the N word in a tweet over a decade ago.
there's no real defense for this except the fact that while a lot of people are making fun of him in the comments of this tweet, there is a majority of black fans commenting about how they forgive him and how they're eye-rolling at all the non-black fans who are clutching their pearls about this. also, he is not a native english speaker and would have been about 14 in the post...
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Drew Venti in a sexual-ish way
Venti is a 2,000 year old loli situation who honestly looks anywhere between 13 to 21 depending on the artist, and you really need to get into his lore to figure out what he is. whether or not sexualizing him is okay is a masterclass in it of itself...anyway, refrain apologized
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"Anti semitism"
I am jewish so this one feels particularly stupid. in simple terms, a hate group in indonesia was trying to ban pokemon go because they thought it was a part of a jewish conspiracy. in an old tweet, Refrainbow was making fun of this thought process, but his tone might've seemed a little flippant. he apologized. this was dumb.
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apparently as a joke in a deleted tweet nerd was said to be a pro-shipper? I cannot find the tweet and I'm currently of the opinion its just a rumor? refrainbow has never reblogged or made art of anything bizarrely "problematic" to the best of my knowledge, and the original tweet is often referred to as being a poorly received joke. idk what to tell you, I don't think its currently canon if its been deleted, or if it ever was. refrainbow's media opinions are vanilla as can be.
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"having an all white cast" - no they aren't
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"being a white woman projecting fantasies for fujos to get off on-"
THIS IS A TRANSGENDER QUEER MUSLIM ASIAN MAN FROM INDONESIA, A COUNTRY NOTORIOUS FOR BEING SHITTY TO GAY PEOPLE. LEAVE HIM THE FUCK ALONE
ahem anyway
the boyfriends webtoon is NOT problematic, it never WAS problematic, and it's probably never going to get the chance to be problematic because the internet successfully cancelled it!
if the stereotypes are a problem, tbh I'd reccommend skimming the first season and then getting into the second with fresh eyes. the characters do have a few subtle traits that go outside their basic personalities, but those get fleshed out more in the 2nd. and sometimes something isn't for everything -- doesn't mean you gotta be an ass about it tho!
whenever I see hate for this comic, I take a moment to look at the pictures of refrainbow that he sometimes posts on his twitter, and think that's a person who is being emotionally impacted by actions on the internet. that's not anonymous, that's a guy.
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Wish I could have Halle Bailey as Ariel without that anti-Black bitch and her atrocious excuse for a rap. 🤦🏿‍♀️
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adhd shifting culture is trying to do a guided meditation but then daydream about your desired reality and not paying attention to the guided meditation and then coming up with new scenarios to write down and trying to figure out where it all fits in the timeline all while the meditation is still playing in the background-
you start it over to focus to listen but the cycle continues
Neurodivergent Shifting Culture is…
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ayphyx · 1 year ago
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Guys imma be real with you
This whole anti-criticism “don’t like don’t read”* culture is kinda making it unsafe for poc to call out racism in fandom spaces without being called “pro-censorship”, “antis”, “or puritans/puriteens”
*i don’t necessarily disagree with this take btw, i’ve just seen this phrase be used to deflect any form of criticism and its getting pretty annoying
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