#and they react with homophobia

[sapphicstoria]

You know what, I woke up to Chalastors screenshotting my edits just to shit on it and Chaggie, so im gonna put them on blast and rant because it pisses me off. Sorry, to those who don’t want to see this, but im tired.

If you cannot talk about your ship, without constantly bringing down another ship, then maybe it’s just not a good ship idk! And im sorry, but you cannot claim Vaggie is toxic or bad for Charlie, when you ship her with someone who does not make her feel comfortable, with someone who just uses her, with someone who has never once cared for her unless it was for his own good. Vaggie has done NOTHING wrong to Charlie, she does her best to be the best girlfriend she can be, she fights for her, risked her life for her, the way some people talk about her or their relationship is honestly reaching homophobic levels, then they wonder why people don’t like their ship. It’s infuriating. These two aren’t even the only people who talk poorly about them. Some people have even said it’s disgusting that they are getting a sexy song/scene in season two, yet yell still retweet so much 18+ fan art of their ship. 🙄

I don’t like ranting about other ships, and I was gonna ignore their comments, but they had to bring up MY collage to talk shit about them and Chaggie, so yeah, this pisses me off. And then someone else said I only like them for a “little representation”, like… acting like their mlw ship is anything interesting, when it’s just manipulator x victim. 😭 im not gonna always talk poorly about them, but god Chaggie haters piss me off soooo bad, I wanna scream.

[crystalpallette]

what was intended to be a sort of "battle of the doppelgangers" has turned into "ally loves her very scary gf so much"

[aftgficrec]

Hi, can you recommend fics with Andreil being discovered by the new foxes?

Here you go! -A

also see:

freshmen react to andreil 1 here, 2 here

freshmen react/pov outsider here

latest foxes react to andreil here

‘Me and You’ series here

‘midnight love,’ ‘flashes of intimacy ch 14 “devotion,”’ ‘Forever Is A Big Word,’ and ‘Master post for Fluent Freshman AU’ here

‘Allison asks how andreil got together’ here

‘AFTG/TFC minifics…Ch 21’ here

‘Teaching a caged bird to fly’ series here (particularly part 4)

you may also like:

Jack & Sheena being assholes here

Neil fights with Jack here

fics featuring the freshmen here

they match by Ani_Rygaard [Rated G, 2869 Words, Complete, 2021]

Baby Fox finding out about Andrew and Neil cause Neil called Andrew babe.

tw: alcohol, tw: homophobia

Never Have I Ever by hismiley16 [Rated T, 4332 Words, Complete, 2023]

The foxes induct the freshman with a post-preseason drinking game. Things get out of hand and Andrew shuts everybody up.

tw: alcohol, tw: homophobia

The Palmetto State Foxes Rules by Overherenow [Not Rated, 1536 Words, Complete, 2018]

A summary of rules for all freshmen for the Palmetto State foxes Exy team. And some upperclassmen who might forget.

The most beautiful thing ever by poly_pr1nce [Rated T, 1055 Words, Complete, 2018, Locked]

Kevin gets sent a clip from the last winter banquet, and when Allison sees it she agrees all the Foxes need to see it, especially the Freshmen/Cubs so they know what to expect when they piss Neil off or say stuff about Andrew

there's no way JOSTEN has a girlfriend by itadoriminyard [Rated G, 3246 Words, Complete, 2021]

“But it has to be her! Neil literally doesn’t spend time with anyone outside of this team. Like at all. Who could he possibly be dating? Someone on the team?” She asked sarcastically. She was met with silence. “Wait… are y’all serious?” Nicky was positively ecstatic at this turn of events. -- [The freshmen are determined to find Neil's secret girlfriend. Neil and Andrew are unwilling to aid their quest.]

The 5 times Neil wore Andrew's jersey and the 1 time Andrew wore Neil's by Hand_of_the_Alex [Rated T, 2489 Words, Complete, 2016]

Neil hadn’t meant to do it the first time, he just saw orange and white and slipped it on for his late night exy practices with Kevin. Kevin didn’t give any reaction further than an eye roll and a scoff before getting back to exy, so Neil finished the practise wearing Andrew’s jersey.

tw: homophobia, tw: nightmares 

five times christmas meant something by nomadicdeer (someonestolemycoffee) [Rated G, 2359 Words, Complete, 2017]

Neil Josten asks Andrew if they can celebrate Christmas. He decided he likes Christmas quite a bit.

[extravagantliar]

by the way if mother giselle has no haters yall must have buried my ass

[kid-called-crow]

my mom: I don't trust the LGBT community. there's so much marketing involved. Plus, there's people giving their salaries to the LGBT... it's dangerous.

me: you mean like, the Trevor Project and stuff? Those are usually for suicide prevention... also, what marketing? Ma, Who do you think is getting a profit out of all of this? The LGBT president?

my mom:

me: Ma, do you believe there is an LGBT president? That there is a hierarchy of Queers?

my mom:

me:

my mom:

me: Youre not joking?

my mother, half a century wise and with a master's degree: Of course I'm not joking.

[jakowskis]

what’s all this then

[gayboss-too-close-to-the-sun]

Okay but like

How much of the Tolkien fandom is homophobic?? Because from my experience Tolkien nerds are always either very homophobic or very queer positive, and I have no clue what the pie chart would show for how large each population is. It’s made me quite afraid of the fandom because I don’t know how to end up in only the gay parts and have had too many unpleasant encounters with the homophobic parts…

I know my exposure is only to a specific set of fans, so I don’t feel like I have enough experience to estimate and I’m just like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[whump-in-the-closet]

hey guys quick rant

my boss is being blatantly homophobic, saying the "woke left" ruined her local Shakespeare production...because someone who was nonbinary...was in it. Also, she just referred to gay people as "those homosexuals" in this really disgusted voice.

what the fuck

what the fuck

this is such bullshit

what do i even do? like...how am i supposed to react to that? i mean all i can do is keep working and pretend i didn't hear her, but that feels like a betrayal to myself and others. it's demoralizing to work here but i can't leave, it's hard enough to get a job where i live as it is. But as someone who's proudly queer, this is such a bad environment to be in (i don't think my boss realizes that though...there's no way she knows and is still making those comments)

anyway its monday. what the fuckkk

[saph-yells-into-the-void]

i feel hiroko, despite being a regular at a lesbian bar and having been with many women, still experiences some level of shame in her identity, at least in public. she's fine when being open about herself when in hidden spaces and among close communities, but when it comes to her public image or her real life, she is quick to make sure they don't overlap.

like realistically she had no reason to believe ayaka is straight. but because she likes her, she convinced herself of this to make ayaka feel unreachable to her so that hiroko doesn't have to confront her feelings at the workplace.

even ayaka comes out to her, hiroko still lies and pretends she's straight. it's something she's so used to: blending in with straight people. because while she can be open about being a lesbian at a hidden lesbian bar, she doesn't want a coworker to know that, someone who knows her in public. even if said coworker is queer. when she sees her two worlds overlapping, she is so quick to jump to the side that allows her to run away from her identity.

therefore when risa openly admits her crush on ayaka, "so proudly," hiroko is surprised. because hiroko can't see herself doing the same.

[rubyof-thesea]

oh that’s. holy shit i think they’re actually making her a lesbian

[dropthedemiurge]

there are not enough Be My Favorite reactions on youtube and tumblr, my brain isn't stimulated enough :(

[autistic-katara]

the urge to text him at 2am and tell him i love him nd then kill myself bcz im scared of his reaction

[yoshizora]

it's been both parts fascinating and annoying to see new dunmeshi fans already starting discourse and shipping wars over marcille/falin vs marcille/laios. the REAL shipping war should be laios/kabru vs mithrun/kabru. which idiot is kabru gonna kiss????? stay tuned you assholes

[sendmyresignation]

finally reading dance of days (thank you ohiolink and oberlin college <3) but my most consistent takeaway thus far. is oh my god. people who think punk is primarily ideological and not subcultural/musical. are so out of touch.

[leatherbookmark]

dear god that would be turbo cringe or whatever, but seeing all those annoying little things in fics over and over again really makes me want to write one in which they're not obligatory funnymoments but rather like, words that have meaning and weight and so on

[woomycritiques543]

None of Moxxie's flashback with Chaz showed anything romantic, and that actually makes me uncomfortable. I'm not sure how old Chaz is, but he reminds me of those adults that look for young people who are inexperienced to defile them.

TW: HOMOPHOBIA, SEXUAL HARASSMENT, GROOMING.

It does kind of feel like Chaz was grooming Crim's son.

He also let the arranged marriage happen, and didnt mind sexually harassing Moxxie once he was no longer giving him what he wants.

The show, of course, sexualizing the situation, as even if moments where the sa is "sad" the show still wants to have it sexualized one way or another, while also having their cake and eating it too by giving Moxxie a "pitty" scene because of what happened to go "OH NO! CHAZ DID SA! HOW SAD! FEEL BAD FOR MOX HERE WHILE WE LAUGH AT HIM BEING SA'D BY BLITZ EVERYWHERE ELSE! SO WE CAN MAKE BLITZ LOOK LIKE A BETTER PERSON THAT HE ACTUALLY IS FOR DOING THE SAME THING- BUT WORSE!" but then having more cake and eating it too by also going "BUT WERE ALSO GOING TO HAVE BLITZ HAVE SEX WITH THE GUY WHO JUST VIOLATED MOXXIE IN THE ROOM NEXT DOOR! Because gay men only want one thing, and that's sex and control over other people! Love? Actually love where no alterior motive from a gay man? What's that? Never heard of it! So here's someone crying about having been assaulted while you're supposed to laugh at the fact that his abuser is having sex with another of his abusers off screen!"

-and having ANOTHER cake by going "It was just a plan, he didnt actually do this for alterior motives (psst. yes he did, yes he fucking did.), Blitz just wanted to help! It's not like he could have just snuck into the car and did this in a way that didnt involve traumatizing you further as "comedic effect! Because that's not hypocritical and more like "I need you to not get hurt for the job!" than "I want to save you because I love you!"" and ANOTHER cake by going "Homosexual men can love too- OH WAIT! Not really because it's only when they're being "tamed" by a woman! Otherwise they're sexual predators waiting to prowl on innocent bi twinks with wives! So we basically only want them to be straight, but made them bi to cover up the fact that we only use our gay man in the show to be predators or fetishized one way or another!-and use the fact that they're bi as an excuse to sexualize the male attracted part of them or demonize it while having the "true love!" be with a girl! Because really- we wanted them to be straight, but made them bi at the last second to cover up our own internalized homophobia with gay men! Oh no, hide your children and women the gay men are comi- oh WAIT! I mean.... HOMOPHOBIA BAED GAY AND BISEXUAL ARE NOT THE SAME WE'RE PROGRESSIVE AND GOOD PEOPLE WE SWEA-"

I know ive said this before, but this episode, forced gay/mlm marriage and all, really felt like I was looking at "gay hate" art from a homophobe. It's just gives gross feelings all around. It literally had not just a homophobe spewing hate, but the episode itself being homophobic by having the only mlm marraige in the show be a forced one covered in dildos (how nice... /s) and then have the man he's forced to marry be a sex predator that his wife must save him from. Again- how the hell did Vivziepop read her own script and not find this entire premise to be homophobic?! HOW?! Again, look at the contrast, and try to tell me, to my face, that this does "NOT!" feel homophobic to you in any shape or form.

Literally, this entire scene was two gay men who sa'ed this bisexual man, who has a wife, having sex next door and traumatizing the man who has a wife because "HUR DUR MALE PREFERENCE BAAAAED!" while the bisexual man cries about being forced to marry a man while looking at pictures of his wife and crying about how he's going to be forced to marry a "sex predator" gay male stereotype that his "loving wife" will save him from, and oh yeah, the episode is about how the bi man being sa'ed and abused is wrong and how murder is "so terrible to do!" while the writers laugh at him being abused everywhere else and HB is about murder!

Again- read this out loud, and tell me how it makes you feel. Because for me, this felt like one of the the most homophobic things that I have ever summarized- and that's really saying something.

In summary: The creators are hypocrites, have internalized homophobia, and this entire episode honestly should have never existed- it's that bad and contridicts Moxxie's entire arcs with how he's supposed to be "more of a man!" but at the same time "be proud of being feminine except NOT REALLY-" So actually, everything with this show contridicts itself now that I think about it...

Also just to respond to this comment real quick: That's nice and all, until you realize that the entire episode was doing the exact thing you claimed it "wasnt" doing. Also "all gay men" you know what "gay" means? "Gay" means to be attracted to the same sex, it can be used in different contexts, same with how the entire community coined what was once considered as the "gay" flag. As the definition literally reads: "Gay men are male homosexuals. Some bisexual and homoromantic men may also dually identify as gay, and a number of young gay men also identify as queer." so if anything, saying "You're not gay, you're bi!" or "You're not gay, you're pan! You cant call yourself or other people gay, even a fictional character, if they're pan!" unintentionally erases the many people in the world who still say both things to describe themselves. It's the same as how not everyone who's lgbtq+ calls themselves "queer" yet lots of people call us "queer" anyway. So calling the fact that as someone who calls myself "gay", that "YOU'RE QUEERING "WRONG!" YOU CANT CALL A HOMOSEXUAL PERSON "GAY AND CAN ONLY DO THAT IF ITS A MAN WHO JUST LIKES MEN!" is queer gatekeeping as hell. Hell, the episode tried to do this kind of gatekeeping too, which makes no sense, and if they wanted to present this in a way that didnt intentionally erase the fact that a bisexual person can call themself "gay" they could have just had the balls/vag to have Crim call Moxxie a "f^ggot", you know... an actually homophobic term? Because I see what they were trying to do with Crim (like say "Not every homosexual person is the same we have different labels!") but the way it was executed felt more like "Im not gay! Im bisexual!" as in "you cant CALL me gay in any context because im bisexual!" which felt very weird to me as someone who's bi. The episode and how it presents gay/homosexual men in such a fetishized, looked down upon, or dehumanized way doesnt make this any better.