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Montagu Barnes
#lockwood & co#lockwood and co#lockwoodandcoedit#l&coaw2023#montagu barnes#montagubarnesedit#smallscreensource#tvedit#cinematv#pearlcaddyedit#pearlcaddy l&co#500#i was torn between flo and barnes for this but i figured flo would be a popular choice#and i wanted to show some love for the grumpy unwilling father figure to seven chaos children#the way he's one of the only adults to acknowledge the tragedy of them being on the frontlines of all this#and he wants them to be safe#his delivery of shut up is iconic#his execution is dubious but his heart's in the right place#a simple set today but if you could see what it took to color some of these
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When Mabel comes out to Stan, sheās really scared that heās going to reject her and have an issue with it, so sheās emotional and asks him if he still loves and supports her and heās just like ā??? Kid Iāve been telling you all summer Iām one of the LBTGsā and then itās her turn to be like āwait what??ā because she thinks he had never mentioned a sexuality before, and it turns out Stan had been constantly telling the kids that heās āambidextrousā because he thought it meant the same thing as bisexual.
#the twins just thought he was really proud of being able to write with both hands#I like to think that he suspected that Dipper & Mabel were queer all summer but he didnāt want to force them to come out to him#so he just casually drops in being āambidextrousā so they know theyāre safe with him#and it was just a misunderstanding between them#they were both genuinely confused at the othersā reaction#gravity falls#gf#stanley pines#mabel pines
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On one hand, Young Justice is kind of neglected by the actual superheroes that should be looking out for them in a lot of crucial ways and very much failed by the adults around them
But on the other hand Red Tornado straight up hosts a parent-teacher conference where their respective legal guardians all show up, barring Batman whoās in traffic so Nightwing fills in instead because Robinās dad does not know heās a vigilante which is objectively hilarious
#Superboy does not have a name and his ass is constantly getting groomed like Clark please take a more active role in his life#And all of these guys need a healthy interaction with their respective legacies that does not involve heroing#Take them out for lunch! Play a video game with them! Let them be a kid around you without getting criticized!#Red Tornado had barely reconnected with his own humanity and heās taken a more active role in being like they are safe happy and learning#compared to the people who literally are the reason they exist in the first place#and is the only one who seems to recognize their potential and ability as a team! and he wants others to know that!#and itās kind of heartbreaking because the JLA should be paying attention to them and noticing how they succeed and instead just show up#at the worst possible time and take things out of context and criticize them and bestie I bet you they are a lot better of a hero#than *you* were at 14-16 because they actually are going out and making a difference and saving people#but the ones who should support them the most are barely there for them at all#someone give these kids healthy and appropriate emotional support I am begging you#yj#young just us#young justice#yj98#bart allen#tim drake#kon el#conner kent#superboy#robin#dc impulse#cassie sandsmark#wonder girl#cissie king jones#arrowette#greta hayes#slobo dc#empress#anita fite
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Technically a Cult
So! Danny has been hearing through the Grapevine that a large Cult has been Summoning all the biggest Magical Creature's for some reason. Demon Lord's, Fae Kings, even a few Gods. Clockwork was summoned a little while ago, and so was Fright Knight and Pandora
And he has been patiently waiting his turn for a while. Apparently everyone they summon has gotten a really good deal from them, all in return for a few favors, sometimes a promise to not go to a specific place.
Danny really wants to strike a deal with them. He wants to ask them for a favor so he can get out of work for a few weeks, he's been planning on taking a vacation with Sam and Tuck, but the Eyeballs are being annoyingly resistant.
He feels the familiar pull of Summoning, and realizes that it's time. Awesome, time to meet this mysterious Cult!
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Why is the JLA standing in from of him?
#Dpxdc#Dp x dc#Dcxdp#Dc x dp#Danny Phantom#Dc#Dcu#Danny wanted to he summoned by a Cult so he could strike a deal with them#He wants to take a Vacation from his Ghost King duties#The JL has been Summoning a bunch if powerful Magical Beings to do a threat assessment#And if they are too dangerous they make deals so the Earth is safe from them#Danny thinks the JLA is a Cult disguising itself as a group of Heroes#ļæ½ļæ½ļæ½Wow I never would have thought of that. Your Cult is Way smarter than most other Cults I seeā#The JLA is mortified#Constantine is amused#What did they think was going to happen when the summon all the biggest Magical Beings in the Multiverse#They're gonna gossip
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Thereās something so sweet about this scene. Not only Arthur is surrounded by his knights, his friends, he still canāt seem to forget thereās someone missing.
And the way he approaches Merlin is nothing funny or sarcastic: itās pure concern, itās love, itās respect.
Merlin admits heās scared, without thinking about it twice, because yes, this is Arthur, the same man who makes fun of me on a daily, but heās also my best friend, the man I love, and who I could lose, but I canāt tell him, but, oh God, if he needs to know I donāt want him to die. Iām the most powerful warlock on earth, yet Iām scared of Morgana, because she wants to kill Arthur, and Iām weak when it comes to him, Iām scared I wonāt be able to protect him as I should (especially since Merlin has heard the prophecy that spoke of Arthurās bane).
I like Arthurās stunned face. Merlin is referring to his life. āYou donāt care you could die?ā And not only Arthur is shocked by it, because he thought Merlin knew his reasonings by now, knew that Arthur would never risk losing his knights, losing Merlin. But Arthur doesnāt care as long as his men are safe, as long as Merlinās safe (because, letās be honest, this conversation is nothing but a way for them to tell each other how they feel towards one another, without exposing themselves to the danger of this revelation). And Arthur needs to make something clear:
āOnly about you.ā Because Arthur brings Merlin everywhere like heās a solider, a warrior, someone who knows how to fight with a sword, whoās an asset to Camelot and the kingdom itself, so he considers him an equal, someone he can sit with on a lower step and chat with about his fears, because he can be vulnerable with Merlin. Arthur knows heās safe with him.
Arthur includes Merlin in his speech, and this is something that could mean, āOh, so Merlin isnāt a friend, isnāt a brother, heās so much more.ā This scene is so impactful, because itās one of those rare moments where Arthur shows how deeply he can love, how much risk heās willing to take to bring peace to his kingdom and to his people: to the ones he loves.
And he knows his knights, he knows Merlin wonāt abandon him, because he has never done it, and Arthur truly believes Merlin has no reason to do it now, even if heās scared. Itās as if Arthur is asking, just to make sure, just to have the confirmation that they think the same of it.
And they do:
I wish I didnāt understand how much Iām willing to risk, and have already risked for you. Because this is why Iām here: for you and only for you.
The self deprecating smile, because Merlin canāt back down, he never will. Heās so frightened, yet not even the prospect of battling against Morgana and her army will make him run.
He has Arthur to protect.
The way he smiles, itās as if heās saying, āWhy didnāt I understand this sooner? Arthurās just like me.ā But itās the fact that they told each other this, they know now, after ten years, that theyāre willing to do anything and more for the other to stay safe, to be alive, even if one of them isnāt.
Merlin tells Arthur. He watches him intensely, because Arthur needs to understand. Heās honest.
Arthur gets it, and heās finally happy. Heās relieved that Merlin wonāt abandon him, that he will stay by his side, like he always is, protecting him, fighting with him, and helping him.
Arthur smiles at Merlin like heās seeing him for the first time, and he falls in love with him just that tad bit more.
#this is my favourite scene of them#there is just something so pure and honest about their stares and their words that does it for me#they watch the otherās reaction because they know what theyāre actually implying#and i know that this show is simple at the end#maybe there was just something to show and thatās it#maybe the dialogues were written with another purpose#but as long as there will be something that makes me truly believe these two are canon#i donāt care#itās in moment like this that you wonder because there is just something in arthurās words#the way he puts it#the way heās telling this to merlin and not to his knights because he wants to make sure merlin is reading between the lines#and arthur tells merlin to eat something to not think about it because now theyāre safe that the other knows#knows how much they love each other#i like this scene so much and arthurās small and pleased smile makes it all the better#arthurās happy if merlinās happy#and thatās all he needs#merthur#bbc merlin#merlin#arthur pendragon#merlin bbc#merlin x arthur
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Daddy, don't go.
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#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#wei wuxian#jiang cheng#jiang fengmian#Scenes that are tragic but still made me laugh: JFM wrapping the boys *right back up* after finding out it was YZY who tied them up.#I know he did it because he understands the severity of what's going on in lotus pier & the need to protect his children.#But it also comes off as 'Oh your mother said so? Yeah I'm not overruling her. Listen to your mother kids. I gotta go.'#You guys ever think about how the last time Jiang Cheng saw his parents alive it was them both pushing him away one last time?#I do!!! I sure do!!! Now you can too! Welcome to my sad little club. The refreshments are all saltwater.#And the subtle difference in who the parting is intended for. YZY meant to leave WWX with JC as a protector. JFM wants them both safe.#The reveal that Zidian responds to JFM aches so badly.#The fact the weapon she literally lashes out with also reveals her heart is so poetic.#I sure hope they can reconcile their feelings. I hope it all works out.#This is the last of the math boat jokes. Back to labeling the boats properly after this.
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The Fenton "Boor"
The Fentons have always been famous for their legal sale of weapons, usually based on ectoplasm and used to hunt ghosts. That's where they got most of their funds, whether it was to finance new inventions, their laboratory, or their children's education.
The problem began when they found out that Phantom was their son. Because of that revelation they accepted that they couldn't continue on the "weapon creator" path, how could they continue to create and sell weapons that help hunt down their baby? Even if they didn't trust all the ghosts Danny changed their perspective of the Infinite Realms and they were more or less at peace.
That is why they debated for hours on what to do to make money again, until they noticed something curious: Most of the people in Amity couldn't get drunk. It was a silly thing to focus on, but thanks to a quick investigation they noticed that after the portal opened no one had made it.
That's the reason they created a new brand of beer "Boor", which affected both ghosts and humans contaminated with ectoplasm. Their business quickly became a success and the beer was exported elsewhere (with many care and prevention labels).
When Jason Todd noticed "Boor" on the shelf at the bar he frequented, he snorted. The beer had a small ghost on the bottle, which caught his attention, he ordered it out of curiosity and when the waiter told him that the brand claimed "the product was capable of making even the dead drunk" Jason almost laughed.
Big was his surprise the next day when he woke up on one of Gotham's rooftops with a severe hangover. He had at least 8 missed calls from Nightwing and a bottle with a cartoon ghost in his hand.
#dpxdc#The Fentons created a beer#Jack wanted to call it Fenton beer#Danny didn't agree with that#Boor is not better but it stayed like that#dp x dc#dc x dp#The product is safe for most humans#and extremely effective with people that died before#Jason is excited#he couldn't get drunk since his death#The JL is curious because it works on most of them#even Flash#The Fentons created the beer mostly because Danny was complaining about being unable to do most things normal people could do#like getting drunk#because of his half ghost metabolism#he was sad about that#His parents helped#Danny is older here#stil living in Amity tho#Jason will track the boor creators later
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Prompt 169
Danny is from a world where everyone has wings, even if most have long since lost the ability to fly. Something about loading and aspect ratio, wings being too small, body too heavy, now mostly used as display, whatever.Ā
It doesnāt matter even if he had blueprints from when he was like six of a jetpack to help fly. It wonāt work anyway and hey, he has his ghost form! Which uh, might be perhaps, affecting his wings which were maybe sort of scorched black and practically down to the bone thanks to the accident.Ā
It doesnāt matter, he swears. Though heās admittedly relieved to see the new feathers growing in are different from Danās angry sunset. Even if theyāre not even supposed to be able to grow back. Alright, this is fine, no one is going to notice! Itās not like everyone knows about the poor Fenton kid whose wings were absolutely destroyed thanks to an accident! Itās fine.Ā
Heās not flying in a half-panic towards the Far Frozen while crying because his wings are coming back and heās so scared. He didnāt panic and instantly fled the moment Jazz pointed them out while changing the bandages.Ā
He definitely didnāt trip over something while wiping away said tears and blacking out from all the stress and all of his problems that he definitely mentioned to someone and isnāt keeping a secret. Definitely.Ā
Hawkwoman and Hawkman would like everyone to know that neither of them were expecting a very small child to be spat out of the villain of that weekās machine that should definitely not be a portal. A very small child, maybe nine or ten, with a multitude of concerning wounds both old and fresh. Which isnāt even beginning to touch on the wings.Ā
Feathered, like baby down despite the gnarled scars, unlike their own metallic, with the beginning of tiny specklings like stars amidst the darker fuzz peeking from the wounded flesh.Ā
Who?! Who dared?! Itās (at least to the forever reincarnating duo) a literal baby! They still have down! Tiny baby fuzz! Was it the portal?! Oh this villain is going to taste their maces for causing this if thatās the case!Ā
The rest of the Justice League would honestly like to know what just happened and are honestly unsure on if they should stop the twoā¦
#dcxdp#dpxdc#prompts#wing au#Shayera & Carter: THAT IS A BABY#Danny who is still very distressed when he wakes up: I donāt know whatās going on & might start crying at any moment#He got brought to the Watchtower#Yāknow what make it where his world is similar to a Flashpoint timeline & thatās why JL never came#He has no idea why heās tiny and just wanted to go to one of his caretakers#The League is trying to figure out how to get this kid home but also subtly asking how his home life is#Danny: Oh I guess my bio-parentās house is dangerous but my caretakerās homes are really cool and safe!#The JL now think this child is in foster care of some sort in his world#Danny does nothing to dissuade this assumption#Honestly itās really freaky for him to see people without wings & maybe clings to Hawkwoman & Hawkman#Look their wings might be metallic but at least they have them & he can actually recognize their body language#How can anyone deal with not being able to express with wings?!#Even if his were completely scorched from the Accident he could still move them and such!
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no one can convince me annabeth isnt creating a New Athens project. literally no one
#it makes so much sense#why would annabeth be okay with greek halfbloods just getting kicked out at 18#and shes always wanted to create something bigger than herself#camp halfblood has been her home since seven dont even#and percy would 100% be on board#youre telling him he can live safely near his mother and hometown with annabeth?#and that annabeth is creating something shes so unbelievably proud of and excited for?#just let them have their greek happily ever after#pjo#heroes of olympus#hoo#percy jackon and the olympians#percy jackson#annabeth chase#percabeth
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#mrs flood who are you: time lord edition
#dwedit#doctor who#mrs flood#fifteenth doctor#the master#jacobi!master#tenth doctor#jack harkness#martha jones#twelfth doctor#ninth doctor#*#okay here is my argument: mrs flood IS a time lord but her presence here has nothing to do with the doctor#instead she's here because of ruby. she's seemingly part of/related to the pantheon of discord & we know that ruby is connected to them too#so i think that she was deliberately placed as ruby's neighbor by the pantheon/oldest one/ruby's mom/? in order to watch over her#it also explains why she was there to check on ruby in 1.04. once she realizes she's on the phone w carla she says 'nothing to do with me'#and she leaves. which implies that it COULD have had something to do with her. if it had been something else going on#ANYWAY. to get to the time lordness of it all. rn i personally believe that she's a time lord that's been hiding on earth for 50+ years#bc i don't think she recognized the police box as a tardis initially. that first quote should be taken at face value.#instead picture this: she's watching over ruby as per usual. a police box is there - weird but nbd. then it dematerializes in front of her.#she drops her groceries. she's shocked. she kinda looks scared. if she already knew it was a tardis why would she react like that?#so imo she knows OF tardises. she DIDN'T know the police box was one. and she's worried the time lords have found her hence the fear.#but when nothing happens and nobody comes at her she realizes she's still safe#later when she sees the doctor she realizes the tardis is his/he must be a time lord. he doesn't identify her but that's happened before#so then when she asks him who he is i think what she's actually asking for is his title. WHICH time lord are you.#bc lbr if she knows abt tardises then she knows about time lords and if she knows abt time lords she knows what it means for ruby#to be joining him - and that's why she wishes ruby good luck. meanwhile this is clearly the outcome she WANTS (them to be together)#bc she gets visibly upset when the doctor seems to decide to leave without ruby.#and for once i'm not master clowning bc the list of names the doctor gives out is VERY interesting. some of them we've never heard before:#the bishop; the conquistador; later he adds the pedant and sagi-shi and reiterates the bishop AGAIN. so i wonder if she's the bishop.....
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I need a Loki who remains.
#mobius#loki#lokius#mcuedit#lokiedit#marveledit#loki spoilers#owen wilson#tom hiddleston#yes loki's there in those last shots bc the lighting is too obvious and mobius at least deserves that much#my man spent all season being supportive trying to cope and now his bf's a tree...#granted a tree who'll spend eternity watching over and keeping him safe while he exists in the palm of their creation#BUT STILL#all he ever wanted was for them to have some time to see the hot air balloons??? marvel we gotta talk š#loki s2 spoilers#marvel#owenwilsonedit#don#dianagifs
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Happy Halloween from the "New 'Do, Same You" Boys!
later:
#fnaf eclipse#fnaf sun#fnaf moon#fnaf dca#dca fandom#New Do Same You AU#Sun New Do Same You AU#Moon New Do Same You AU#Clip New Do Same You AU#Comet New Do Same You AU#crab art#digital art#bright colours#halloween#Wreck it Ralph#honestly Clip made Comet a Sonic onesie for two reasons#1) it's funny#2) he couldn't get Comet's measurements and didn't want to make them uncomfy so he went with a onesie as a safe option#i actually had this idea for a long time#cuz the NDSY characters really match Wreck-it Ralph#there will likely be a future chapter where they watch the movie together#and Comet will cry#because i always cry watching wreck it ralph š„²
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#Iāve been thinking about this scene a lot#I donāt think aziraphale is oblivious and i do think he is scared of the threat gabriel brings#But Aziraphale and Crowley have spent 6000 years lying to each other and pretending theyāre okay#So when he calls him silly or asks him to dance heās not being naive he knows thereās danger#but distraction and play are what they do best#They hide and scheme and plan separately even though they both want the same outcome#And would be so much stronger fighting together#But for them together is scary. Itās unknown. And itās dangerous#And so the game continues. The push and pull. Cat and mouse. Angel and demon#Being lonely with each other. In a misguided attempt to keep each other safe#As i said ive only been thinking about it a lil bit not at all really haha x#good omens#good omens 2#good omens gifs#aziraphale#gabriel#aziraphale fell#gomens#michael sheen#jon hamm#usersugar#tsusermels#userrlorelei#usereena#dailyineffablehusbands#my gifs
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emotional support frog
who will absolutely eat your hand.
#THIS FROG is a main character now#i dont make the rules#actually i do and you have to follow them#and the new rule is zuko has a badger frog and he doesnāt know what to do with it#he does not WANT the frog#it just wont leave him alone#he did not expect one of his first questions upon joining the gaang to be 'whats your pet policy'#also momo wants the frog now and it is unclear if his intentions are good#so zuko's playing it safe#abd unfortunately looking overprotective of his frog in the process#atla#zuko#also feel free to bug me for individual files#i can add em under the cut#when im not feeling lazy
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garyās twin sister, nadine!!
iām a sucker for the bonnie & neddy episode :ā)
#stravacious#i imagine gary dyed his hair pink bc itās her favorite and then she wanted it done too#theyād interact with each other a bit more in this world#in at canon bonnie kinda just locks him in a basement bc thatās all she can do but like. nadine needs to eat#i picture it more like he is her only safe person#she freaks out about other people so gary doesnāt bring anyone over#she might be a tablet girlie#sorry if this is too āmiku binder jeffersonā to ppl out of the at canon loop#their gum lullaby is just some rlly cute song their mom used to sing before she died#in my last at post i mentioned that they lived w their shitty aunt georgia (uncle gumbald) before gary moved them out#maybe sheās the reason nadine hates other ppl so much#adventure time#fionna and cake#gary prince
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You ever just see a Mouthwashing take that makes you want to bang your head into a wall? I literally just saw someone claim Curly couldn't have been emotionally abused by Jimmy before the crash because he was in a higher position of power than Jimmy.
-Shrimp Anon
The mouthwashing fandom has shown me that people genuinely do believe that certain types of abuse are not as detrimental as other types especially when they deem those immune/resistant, ergo, believing one is objectively worse no matter how it affects the person nor the intersections of power, history and dynamics at play.
Get ready cause this is a yap session:
Cause like it's heavily implied that Curly and Jimmy's friendship was toxic and abusive, pointedly in the direction of how Jimmy uses Curly's belief/comfort in him. Curly wasn't forced to enable Jimmy but he was emotional and mentally on edge around him in almost every scene in some way. Mental and emotional abuse are not contingent on what positions you have at work. Yeah, he's Jimmy's boss but he was Jimmy's friend first and it's like getting into Psych discussion to talk about how social power tends to overshadow any perceived organizational power in the human mind. People are concerned about their jobs ofc but they tend to hang onto and put more value/investment into their personal relationships, hence why there tends to be laws and restrictions around mixing the two.
I always see the sentiments that "Curly is a grown ass man", "Curly is bigger than Jimmy", "Curly is Jimmy's boss", "He just needed a backbone" as criticisms of Curly and while I do agree that on the surface level all of these to be true and viable ways Curly could've taken more control of the situation, I often look at the parallels of Anya and Curly as victims of Jimmy pre/post crash.
The way Jimmy talks to Anya post crash is how he talked to Curly in the pre-crash segments. It's hard to pin-point mainly because we know he hates and wants nothing to do with Anya compared to his contrary but similarly handled obsessions with Curly. It's a weird sort of "honey-moon" effect of abuse Jimmy does in terms of emotional and mental victimization. He is always horrid to Anya, always talking down or questioning her abilities and thoughts in a situation, this of course includes the harassment and assault. However, he has a moment of attempted gentleness/conditioning when he question her about the mouthwash when she's contemplating drinking it at the table. The key difference is he has no personal investment in Jimmy outside wanting nothing to do with him, meaning there is no sort of romanticized version of him that he can condition her off of. He knows this, hence, why he always reverts to trying to make her to scared to oppose him.
This sort of give and take of "kindness" doesn't work on her because she knows he is just doing it to take more from her than whatever he could possibly give but it reflects even the "softer" scenes between him and Curly where he always rewords or rephrases Curly's sentiments and concerns to sound more shallow. He is feigning a deeper understanding by reworking Curly's emotions into something bad and needing to be hidden. Everything is laced with envy and resentment, an outburst just around the corner, I mean he even slams the table in the birthday party scene, a tactic in emotional manipulation to set the victim on edge and cloud their ability to respond. Even if Curly knows Jimmy won't get physical in that moment, the physical actions is intended to make him back down in the confrontation in case it does. This is something that is just not person specific. It ingrains itself into how you interact with the world and life and it shows in major and minor ways with Curly.
Post-crash, the abusive nature is more in tandem to the physical victimization Anya went through and the stripping of voice and autonomy we see take place. Like the parasite in HFIM, Jimmy speaks for Curly most of the time and puts words in his mouth, similarly to how he takes Anya's plans as his own. He very commonly, with the both of them mind you, supplements the worst aspects of himself into them; pettiness, selfishness, lack of understanding... And tries to cover himself with their best qualities; kindness, planning, initiative, etc...
These parallel are just to say that positional power has little to do with if a person can be abused and how it can even be flipped to further the abuse. There is no doubt that Curly could've picked up on Jimmy's envy of his position hence another reason he never confronted him as a Captain but as a friend as doing so would immediately put Jimmy in a space to be confrontational/combative.
I think the disdain some people have when they talk about the heavily implied if not implicitly stated emotional/mental abuse Curly experienced being Jimmy's friend is when treating it as an excuse to why he didn't do more. I can understand that completely because it is not an excuse to why he didn't do more but is a very real reason people in his position in these scenarios can experience whether in the context of a work or social environment. However, I also think the way people talk about it really does demonstrate a bigger problem when talking about abuse when somehow who is/was abused is either part of the issue or enabled it.
Harkening back to the sentiments about Curly's inaction regarding Jimmy, I think the exact phrases I used/have seen show how there is an inherent belief that it is easier to overpower the effects of emotional/mental abuse that go in tandem with the perception of Curly as someone who should be able to. There is not an age you suddenly stop being susceptible to abuse nor a set point or low where you realize how it has affected you. You don't suddenly know to stand up or put a face on to face your abuser nor admit that you inadvertently enabled them to subjugate someone else to the same treatment. Maybe it's my psych brain but their is this growing belief that direct action is somehow easy or always the best method with the game shows you instances where it is not always the case. In real life that rings true too. He should have done more, but it's not impossible to see why he struggled to find a way or didn't even if it makes us mad.
It's not easy to suddenly gain a "back-bone". You don't immediately want to resort to aggression, especially if it mirrors the type you were a victim to. You don't want to believe you allowed yourself to be treated this bad, let it get that bad or allowed something bad to happen to someone else. It is easy to be in denial, to retreat to your thoughts or make excuses to avoid the painful truth. It's frustrating but in a way we know is relatable. It why we both hate and love Curly for it. We know we'd be better, we think we'd be better, we like to think we wouldn't falter in the same ways but it's always easier to say that from the outside looking in. It's easy to see what he was doing wrong because we are seeing it, not him, but the game really does make you picture what you would do if this was your raw reality and it's why this debate about Curly seems so never ending/contradictory. We can all say what we'd do but bottom line is that's much different when you're in the moment with all the emotions and human feelings attached.
I personally think Mouthwashing tackles the themes of rape culture, enabling, toxic masculinity, types of abuse and patriarchy in ways that are meant to deconstruct the typical straightforward views we mostly have of these concepts and how little subtilities of them are just as, if not more, detrimental than the overt/obvious parts. The game deals with the idea of little details and bigger picture in a way to show that sometimes the bigger picture is not the issue but the little details that make it up. It's why I have a personal dislike of depictions of Jimmy as the typical horrible person who would of course do something like this because the game is about noticing the little warning signs, the foreshadowing and foresight.
It's why I dislike the typical discussion of "bro code" and "boys will be boys" for the game because the game makes a point to avoid the standard depictions of such. It is about the type of men who still enable despite not condoning, agreeing or even perpetuating harmful beliefs because they can't see the little details or the ways it seeps into their everyday. The severity is not obvious to them as it was not obvious to Curly, Swansea or even Daisuke the way it was to a woman like Anya. There are little details about Jimmy that should ring alarms but if you are too naive like Daisuke, too distant like Swansea or too conditioned like Curly, they are just off markers.
There is 100% more constructive/concise ways to say "Curly was a victim of Jimmy's abuse on an emotional and mental aspect that clouded his judgements and perceptions in the scenario" while also critiquing on the side of "Curly still had a responsibility to protect Anya as a crew mate and Captain that he failed to do due to biases and stigma's he failed to surpass" without the weird condemnation people give him about should've knowing better than to let himself be manipulated by a person he considered a close, if not family/best-friend and had his own reasons to trust initially. Also stop being weird about victims of abuse in general with this fandom, like sorry not everyone has a like social epiphany the moment someone's nasty to them. People are treating it like you immediately know when you are in a toxic relationship immediately or comprehend when a person is actively dangerous and either it's your fault for not knowing how to leave/cut them off or you deserve it. Like the hypocrisy of people believing how certain fans treat the story reflect their irl views but not their own is crazy.
End statement is: I honestly don't even know man, I've been writing this too long and just like no man on that ship was perfect or really helped Anya when it mattered and I feel like pitting them against each other in discussion on who did the least or most or how it was justified sucks cause in the end Anya always did the most and best thing for herself.
#i also think it is because mouthwashing is first and foremost a game about rape culture and the patriarchy especially in work spaces#regarding women and centering conversation around Curly a man rubs people wrong because it does overshadow that commentary#but it still mixes other topics into its initial theming and message on how abuse conditions you to accept certain things that are harmful#and how getting used to a culture/enviornment does not mean you are happy healthy or most importantly safe in it. I personally like to#explore those aspects where it mixes all the themes so we can discuss the ways you have to watch out for things because there is a differen#in the idea Curly enabled Jimmy just because they were bros and because he was an example of another man afraid to step out from what#is a still oppressive system that does try to punish those who act against it even if they fall in the category of those who would benefit#from it as Jimmy and PE 100% represent that sort of misogynistic system where men that would be āgoodā are altered until they follow line#in a way both on the personal and professional level as PE is the corporate lock out and Jimmy represents the social and its just the issue#that the discussion of it sounds like āin defense of menā when I am more so trying to discuss how it is much deeper than men being scared t#upset other men but complacency is rewarded by not becoming another person subjugated hence as all the moments Curly does try to do#something we can tie it back to how Jimmy reacts and a possible penality from PE where we now need to address the ways to combat those#two concepts so we dont get cases like Curly or Daisuke or Swansea where male avoidance of the issue is considered neutral or even good.#i think most of this boils down the perfect victim mentality to where if someone who underwent or is being abused is not a perfect example#or accpetible type than their abuse can not be considered a valid or substantial reason for effects on their behavior compounded with the#fact that Anya's abuse at the hands of Jimmy is a systematic issue that Curly is a part of even if unwillingly and was more physically#violating and topical cause sometimes i have to remind myself that all media is still critiqued through the lens of the culture it came out#in cause i do think about what if this game came out inlike 2014 like the conversations would be sooooooo different could you imagine it?#but back the before statement Curly isn't perfect but I feel like boiling it down if hes a good person or man is not the point of the game#but more so good people can still be part of the problem and the idea of condemning a person for one act creates a false sense of#rightouesness and justice that does not aid the victim and in fact aids the abusers in escaping blame for their mulitple behaviors as we se#how the men on the ship tend to blame Jimmy for just one act against them including himself while there is a plethora of things Anya is#concerned about with Jimmy#and its not that Curly just made one mistake with Jimmy but more so we consider his actions more damning because he didn't stop Jimmy#instead of focusing on the fact Jimmy did what he did regardless of Curly and the consequence because we already know he's bad n maladjuste#which is problem in the conversation where the individuals are blamed but the system and perputrator are overlooked in a sense of acceptiab#complacency as we know how they are and the lack of tangibility to personally affect them on a larger scale like I should just make a post#on like cutting out the face when it comes it confronting systems of oppression rather than tag talking but just ask me to clarify if#you want that like im jus trying to say we avoid talking about Jimmy and PE so much cause it is obvious what they do wrong that we make#the initial and inherent problem out to be one aspect someone in this case Curly does and the the constraints they use to force actions
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