#and dont EVEN get me started on dean
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im so normal about destiel. really, i am. its just that i cant stop thinking about how castiel, an angel of the lord, something that couldnt-shouldnt-be able to feel love, pain, or sorrow was able to feel all of it because of dean. cant stop thinking about how he threw literal millennias of being a primordial being of light for a human. i cant stop thinking about how, out of every version in every universe that chuck created, he was the only one to rebel. because of dean. and i definitely cannot stop thinking about how his happiest moment, his doom, was to just. tell dean he loved him. not even getting an i love you back, he was just happy with telling him. really, i am so normal. i think about this a normal amount, actually.
#and dont EVEN get me started on dean#*slaps head* this bad boy can fit so much repressed homosexuality#seriously#im so normal about them#destiel#supernatural#castiel#dean winchester#deancas#i love them#so much
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dean winchester thinks he breaks everything he touches. thinks he doesn't deserve to be loved, thinks he's worthless. he can never live up to his own expectations. even crowley knows that nobody hates dean more than dean hates himself. dean loves his baby brother more than anything and he needs him; it's the most selfish part of him and he knows it, but he needs sam. so much that he'll do almost anything to keep sam alive, to keep sam with him. because dean can't stand the thought of living without him. he doesn't deserve to live anyway, in his mind.
#dont even get me started on sam#these gays are trying to murder me#dean winchester#sam winchester#sam and dean#the winchester brothers#supernatural#spn
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holy shit watching ruby manipulate sam in 4x09 is fucking heartbreaking.
this boy just lost his brother half a year ago. he’s drunk 24/7, an emotional wreck, suicidal, driven by anger and guilt, and constantly burdened with the fact that he INDIRECTLY KILLED the most important person in his life who is now BURNING IN HELL.
he just tried to offer his own soul to take dean’s place and was told that it wasn’t worth anything. he spends his nights in abandoned buildings because being in a motel without dean probably hurts too much. he is literally at rock bottom. he’s willing to die to bring dean back. hell, he’s willing to die just to avenge him. he’s in so much damn pain that he’s ACTIVELY trying to kill himself.
and ruby comes onto him? tells him how good she can make him feel, that she can make him feel better, that he just has to trust her. and he says NO. he says, i can’t, and pushes her away not once but TWICE. but ruby just keeps pushing. guilt trips him again. asks him if its so bad because she’s a demon, and sam must think, hell, i’m a demon too, i’m a monster, i killed my own brother, i’m worse than her.
even dean could see that this was manipulation. and sam immediately played the “but it’s okay because she saved my life”. and knowing how their relationship with ruby ends… man it hurts. it really hurts.
sam winchester has had his head fucked with so goddamn often and i don’t know how he even has it on straight anymore.
#oc#spn#supernatural#spn meta#sam winchester#DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED on the wincesty part of this#the ruby-dean parallels#she slots herself into that gaping dark hole in sam’s chest#and with dean gone sam has no real reason to fight it anymore
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SPN season 16 except Sam goes back to school and get shell shocked by the change in atmosphere and vibes
#signed a girl who is going back to earn another degree#no one knows where the library is and everything is done online now#dont even get me STARTED on acting like a hacker to bypass duo verification to access my own fucking canvas account#is this niche this might be niche#OH ALSO Im the only student in my classes who actually reads the prompts and doesnt use AI#and apparently there are fake accounts that take up enrollment so I dont even know if the student Im talking to on discussion posts is real#i graduated in 2023 WHAT HAPPENED IN THE COURSE OF ONE YEAR#Sam would be just as equally confused and frustrated and venting constantly and Dean would just be like :/ damn#supernatural#spn#spn shitposts#sam winchester
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Japan/Steve Jansen appreciation post because I love him. Everybody go listen to their album Adolescent Sex RIGHT NOW
#the japan guys are simply not real#they are a govt psyop cos how can 5 people as weirdly gorgeous as them just so happen to all be friends#and steve omfg dont even get me started#ive liked a lot of men in my time but he takes the cake as the most beautiful man ive ever seen#hes ruined my standards for men cos i dont wanna be with anybody that doesnt look like him#my unpopular opinion is steve is prettier than sylvo#japan the band#david sylvian#steve jansen#mick karn#richard barbieri#rob dean
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sometimes I think about how when I went to college for a year before I dropped out (basically failed out,) the counselors/dean told me they can't help me at all or give any accommodations unless I have an official autism/adhd diagnosis. that might sound logical at first, but when you think about it more, it's actually quite fucked up. if someone is struggling really bad, what's the harm in helping them? why do they require a paper to get even the smallest amount of help? people who don't need help aren't going to be failing miserably without help! even NTs could benefit from some adjustments to the horrible school system! (but changing the entire system is a whole other conversation that the school system isnt ready for)
but even if you do agree to jump through their hoops, you realize it's even more fucked up that the diagnosis process requires YEARS in most cases (in my case it took 4 or 5 years, can't recall exactly now, for autism/adhd diagnosis, which would have meant i finished school before getting it if i managed to mot fail out, or i wait that long before going back, which is a whole struggle itself) and they also tried billing me for THOUSANDS of dollars because of insurance issues!!
so you put a ton of time and money into this, and then get told the only accommodation they are willing to give you for autism and adhd is "a little extra time on tests"
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my test scores were the best part of my whole class experience. that was NOT what I struggled with!!!!! those tests were all online and could be done in the comfort of your home where you can accommodate yourself and have plenty of time left over when you finish them because you are comfy in your own space, (and also, no one was stopping you from having your notes/books/google open to find the answers,) and you don't even need a time consuming, expensive diagnosis for that!
SO WHAT'S THE POINT!!!!!!!
#mind you this was over 10 years ago now. it *could* have gotten better but id be extremely shocked if it has#autistic#autism#actually autistic#adhd#neurodivergent#audhd#school#school problems#yes i know theres rules or maybe even laws for this and its why they are like this but its bad and should change#if they offered smaller classes with less sensory overloading bullshit and other things i needed it would be great!#but they refuse to accommodate your actual needs and make up useless accommodations to legally say they help disabilities#ND people (not just audhd) and other disabled people that graduate with no useful accommodations are so strong and cool. proud of you!#ones who had to drop you youre also cool for not dealing with their bullshit snd allowing yourself to not suffer for a sheet of paper!#(though i know it can feel bad when everyone around you makes you feel bad for needed to drop out or failing out and not going back)#i completely stopped going to my psychology class because i started a week late due to scheduling issues and#suddenly we are told theres a paper due in 3 days and need to hse the textbook i didnt have yet as the source for it all#and it was in the syllabus i didnt get because i was a week late and didnt know we got one. the professor didnt notice me out of#the 100 other students in that large lecture hall. that room was also a sensory nightmare hellscape#too many students made things noisy and distracting. multiple fluorescent lights were flickering constantly and never fixed#the professor used a mic to speak to us and it had a constant horrible loud buzzing. it did that loud mic screech noise randomly#without warning. all the time. the quality of the sound was horrible so it was hard to understand her. on top of that she had a very thick#accent i wasnt familiar with so that on top of the horrible buzzing mkc quality that also cut her out constantly was auditory processing#disorder HELL. I dont know how ANYONE survived thst class but i seemed to be the only one struggling. everyone else turned in their papers#and i gave up and stopped going. was too late to drop the class to get my money back so i wasted probably a few thousand dollars#and THATS what i mean by give me reasonable and useful accommodation. test time would NOT make that class better at all#fix the mic and light issues at least or give me a smaller class with more attentive professor or something!#offer smaller classes for struggling disabled people! if the issue is not knowing who needs them then offer a switch to those struggling!#i got called onto a dean/counselor meeting because a professor noticed my horrible grades and stuff so its possible to catch us and help!#THESE SCHOOLS JUST NEED TO START BEING WILLING TO. dont make us do all the work to accommodate ourselves and expect to do well in school!
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im new here- is dean abusive?
imo yeah. smarter people than me have written dissections of the way he treats sam & others (he’s also Awful to his psuedo-son jack, but i haven’t gotten to that season yet), i’ve probably reblogged a bunch of them.
he certainly doesn’t mean to be & i don’t say it to condemn him as a person or as a character & i’m still very attached to him & he loves sam very much (not that that makes a difference in whether u abuse someone or not) - but the way he treats sam a lot/some of the time is emotionally abusive and sam is clearly badly impacted. s4 and s8 come to mind as his worst moments also ofc moc era - after that there’s less interpersonal conflict (up to where i am at least) but that’s because sam mostly stops disagreeing with dean not because dean actually gets much better <3 spn is cycles of abuse show after all. family is hell. dean’s learnt pretty much everything about how to behave from his abusive father and as a result. well. cycle continues
#anon i wonder which way ur approaching this from - having not considered that dean treats sam badly or having never thought of it as Abusiv#mutuals pls feel free to chime in with ur opinions#wrote a bunch of more detailed responses to this but none of them felt right so i was just like. eh#narrative portrays dean as right like All Of The Time bc the shows morality is deans morality its fucked up so that makes it harder for#fandom to see how awful he is sometimes#but i think a lot of people see his awful behaviour but just wouldn’t call it abusive and rather toxic etc because abusive#is such a ‘strong word’ and people have a lot of personal connotations with it#i don’t often even actually use the word abusive to describe him. but he is! and i’ve been watching s4 and he’s just So awful and it’s been#reminding me hugely#dean crit#<- i guess#spn#oliver talks#asks#it’s more than just like. being awful sometimes. bc it’s this systemic pattern of eradicating sam’s sense of identity outside of him#and punishing sam for ‘disobeying’ him (like s4/8)#dean winchester#supernatural#Also when you start recognising dean as abusive the show becomes a legitimate horror story because fucking hell!!!!#narrative just. sides with him most of the time!!!!#if u wanna think abt it for urself id say make sure u know what abuse actually Is and how it can present & then look at a lot of sam and#dean conflicts. do they seem equal? r both parties being as awful to each other? whats the context?#look away from the view the show is trying to get you to take via like. ending shots and closeups. and look at what theyre actually saying#to each other and what has actually happened#<- i feel like this sounds patronising i dont mean to be😭#if u already think sam&dean r fucked up and had just never defined it as abusive before then feel free to ignore me#there r probably posts in my dean winchester tag much better than this#<- okay apparently i had a lot to say actually. sorry for doing it in the tags
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Why are 2000-2009 shows infinitely better than most shows?? Gilmore Girls? 2000. NCIS? 2003. Bones, Supernatural? 2005.
#DONT even get me started on video games#OG RE4 was released in 2005#and so was God of War (even if I didn't play it it's still a banger)#I rest my case#gilmore girls#ncis#bonestv#supernatural#dean winchester#sam winchester#bobby singer#castiel#megstiel#sorry not sorry#meg masters#rory gilmore#lorelai gilmore#luke danes#javajunkie#temperance brennan#seeley booth#B²#leroy jethro gibbs#tony dinozzo#abby sciuto#ziva david#tiva#2005#2003#2000
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Was anybody else completely freaked by this episode???
Why was season one actually so scary??? On top of that, they did such a good job of making the "bad guys" just as sad as they were terrifying.
Sometimes, I re-watch season one just to try and feel that same level of awe I felt on my first watch through.
#supernatural#sam winchester#dean winchester#season 1#bloody mary#dont even get me started on that fucking scarecrow lol#supernatural season 1
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Look, I don't know about you guys but when people start talking about their comfort shows and its something really sweet and it's a sit-in-with-a-coffee-lazy-day kind of show and they ask about mine I just kind of freak...like
Them: wbu?
Me: (nervous laughter knowing my comfort show is supernatural and it's the most chaotic, weird ass show ever) ummm... it's this cool show, you probably haven't heard of it...haha
My social skills are non existent, someone help.
#and dont even get me started on ships#cough cough destiel#dean winchester#castiel#destiel#spn#sam winchester#supernatural#comfort show#socially awkward#nervous laughter
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comment so bad i read it in the jacksfilms your grammar sucks voice
#i cant even tell if this is being transphobic or not#ive gotta resist the urge to reply to every stupid comment on this stupid video bc im just trying to plan and compose an#actual response to the guy i just posted about. because hes started getting all 'people should be able to defend what they believe#on their own' when i suggested directing him to some literature that explains my point better than i was#girl sorry i wasnt giving you the worlds most perfect explanation... i like most people actually suffer from this affliction where#i cannot perfectly articulate my thoughts without constructing my arguments beforehand and planning out what to say#so yeah my youtube comments half of which i wrote from 2-4am are not the best representation of my thoughts#sorry i just read your reply and answered it instead of planning out a frigging essay!! soooo sorry.#bros got me saying things like 'frigging'. this is how bad it is#sorry for all the ranting about this btw i need an outlet for how annoyed the ppl i debate on youtube make me so that i dont start#just responding to all their arguments with 'dean suck cas good and hard thru his jorts' or something
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the thing is. i’m a proponent of samdean starting precanon. not always but in a lot of contexts i like it. it just makes so much SENSE. the reason they act Like That in the first episode. deans constant nostalgiaing about wanting things to go back to the Way They Were Before. two teenagers kept continually isolated from the world (in terms of being unable to build lasting connections) sharing a room in a motel their whole life their only model a guy who’s excellent at blurring lines. but their age gap is 4 years that’s a lot for teenagers. immediate insane power imbalance. icl in any form of weecest sam is a victim on some level no matter how you spin it
#idk like on one level i dont like weecest because of this. like it will alwaysss have that fucked up undertone to me you cant get rid of tha#sam is 4 years younger than him which is a lot for teenagers and dean has soo much authority over him. the power imbalance is impossible to#avoid. there is no weecest which isnt partially grooming. and my issue w this is not that i dont believe it#because i completely do. and in some ways it just makes soodoooo much sense to me. the deference sam still has to dean in canon even when#theyre 36 and 40. the way hell forgive anything. obviously there is more than that but i can’t think on it rn#tldr hendricksen was right#anyway my point was. if i’m thinking about wincest as ~omg so romantic!! i rlllly dont like fixating on weecest and instead prefer to think#it happened spontaneously in s1/2. (s2 is peak romance…….)#but normally i dont view sam and dean like that at all. they’re an abusive relationship. so i dont find it hard to believe that they started#off in a way that neither of them fully realised was Messed Up at the time but completely was#samdean
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im so fucking mad at myself at my mother at her dead husband at god fucking knows what. "concentrate on yourself" well i cant can i. now more than anything i should and i cant. losing my fucking mind istg
#i wasted the whole fucking weekend because i *had to* come visit her and once i visited i *had to* hang out with my fucking grandfather#watching him cry about grandma and bitch about modern times and the waiter not doing his job because the café was full to bursting#and it took longer than usual to get our coffees so ofc he had to loudly insult him in third person. oh and then he had to bitch about#gay people and women who dont want children too because of he did. and i sat there and listened to it because i HAD TO#wasted four fucking hours. and then i HAD TO go to the theatre with my mom because she got us tickets because she wanted this#to be a nice day for me but i dont have fucking time to have nice days rn but in order for HER to have a nice day i need to at least pretend#i am having one. so i wasted another almost two hours on that play#which was some modern uselessly loud to the point of being physically painful bullshit bad enough that we left mid-show#and then i had to go meet with her friends so lost another two hours and by the time i got home to write that bullshit thesis it was 11pm#and i barely got anything done till 1 am because i went through another stupid little mental breakdown and then it was almost 6 am#and i had to stop because i had a train at 8 and i already only slept like 3 hours that day#and then i got home yesterday totally fucking exhausted and i started reading stuff for the thesis but i was falling asleep so i laid down#'for 10 minutes' and i woke up today at 6. not having written a word lol#and now i could just say fuck it and defend it in september and it would make my life so much easier. but my voice teacher wants me#to get accepted for the masters degree even if im already planning to get the deans leave for the first semester so like. god.#i cant do this lol#i know i should have started earlier but i was kinda busy losing my fucking mind and lying in bed staring at the ceiling for hours#and contemplating dropping out completely lol god i hate my life so much it's unreal
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okay what you have to understand is that while against the kitchen floor is a dean song...willard! has cas written all over it
#guess who really started listening to will wood 😳#like just listen to me ok hear me out...#i dont owe u my heart or my body but shit i do fuckin owe u and im so sorry that i cannot be good as u are#the irony of dean not thinking of himself as human as cas learned to be is not lost on me#and even tho he fucks up constantly he cant bring himself to want cas to end their relationship (wtv it may be)#apologizing for the way he is bc tbh if dean never figures out how he feels simply because he himself doesn't know#what he wants he probably would end up just giving cas.his body because he owes him something and#he cant figure out what he can possibly give in the face of that all consuming frankly terrifying love#ahem. onto willard#ik i said cas knows how to be human but that's in dean's eyes. cas doesn't get being human at all even tho he does (?)#like his homeless/steve arc he cant get a grasp on how humans do all the things they do and live they way they live#the beginning of the song he talks about not being able to step on ants and crying for moths#now that could be cas talking about actual insect but ALSO humans! bc he's learned to care!!#but yea if cas had some sort of animal he saw every now and then while on the street? a cat or a rat etc that's how i envision#him with this song#he himself has been stepped on so many times! it started to feel like his place! not truly part of the winchesters not truly angel#just cas now...#is there room for me in your cage whether that be earth or a real rat he feels he understands#it's confusing for him to connect! never learned what to feel from childhood like humans do!#he was thrown into the deep end#they call me crazy but their words all seem made up to me -> honeybee cas fr#also i can see steve bringing a little creature into the gas n sip his own little guy#also the peace vs freedom thing. animals are put in cages. humans locked in heaven.#and cas has achieved free will but he has to wrestle with whether it's better to be content or break chains#you might seem behind bars but friend this cage is inside out! dean and sam are trapped in this destiny#but they both say fuck it !! but heaven wasn't just a cage to humans it's a cage for angels too#yeah ur fate is fucked but at keast you had a fate to change yknow. cas didn't just change his story#he didn't have one so he literally wrote it#i can't listen to this song without thinking about cas human hungry and alone#it's AWFUL out here socrates. it's DANGEROUS out here socrates. it's lonely out here socrates 🤡🤡🤡
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just said this in the comments of a friends post but i need to post it here too.
dean winchester is a fearless/speak now girlie because his life is a battle and he wishes it was a fairytale instead
#dont even get me started on how cowboy like me is about dean and cas#taylor watched the i love you scene and said i'm writing a song
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in lieu of watching the last two episodes of season five (i've been watching spn on dvd with a friend of mine so i don't want to watch it without them while were on winter break) i watched a couple episodes of season seven that weren't plot important and jesus christ, yall weren't kidding about supernatural going downhill after season five. it was all just completely devoid of the love and warmth you find in the earlier seasons?? where even when things are devastating, theyre devastating for an actual reason, not just needless shock value. in one episode dean kills a woman bc she's a kitsune right before her young son walks in and sees her dead body, and he threatens to kill the kid too?? what the fuck was that?? obviously dean has always been the "kill the freaks instead of empathising with them" kind of guy, but that just crosses a line. he had zero remorse or emotion the whole time. that doesn't make any sense. the whole thing was so fucked up that it became stupid.
it just frustrates me so much because there is something so special and beautiful about supernatural when it was good--there was horror, there was violence, there was gore, but it almost always meant something more than just what it was. i think about how emotionally devastating it was to watch an episode like heart or metamorphosis which both have the same type of sympathetic monster plot, and its easy to see when that trope is done well and when it isn't. these season seven episodes don't even feel like supernatural to me, they feel like some asshole's supernatural fanfiction that got turned into a tv show. shit sucks so bad
#and dont even get me STARTED on slash fiction#it was a great idea and the scenes of sam and dean as serial killers were pretty hot#but it was poorly executed :/#like u rly expect me to believe sam and dean can just go back to normal life that easily when there's VIDEOS#of them committing like five mass shootings in a row. give me a break#'the normal world thinks sam and dean are serial killers' thing worked so much better in the earlier seasons#so boooo season seven writers booooo#be better. i know that's literally not possible bc the episodes came out ten years ago but be better. god#anyways!#rambles#spn#supernatural#season seven#dean winchester#sam winchester#spn only had five season
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