#abortion talk cw

[orchidbreezefc]

never mind that last posttttt

i should really look into people who talk about abortion exclusively in terms of women before reblogging when im on mobile with no shinigami eyes

like what did i think it was, that this sj blogger on tumblr getting into reproductive discourse just hadn't heard the news about trans people existing--

anyway here's the same message from a non-terf: the right to an abortion is unconditional, even if it's because a fetus is disabled. there is a conversation to be had about how the social pressure to abort a disabled fetus is based in eugenics, and we should have that conversation, but no individual should be kept from an abortion or forced to bear a fetus, period. bodily autonomy is not conditional.

(but make it trans rights)

[stagesofkiller]

too freaky to say in the main channel but most probable scenario is horrordust breeding kink gone wrong 💀

Oh my god. I’m getting flashbacks to that one Killermare fic i absolutely despise. Breeding kink results in actual child for some reason 💀.

Well now I wanna know how they handled this. Killer probably immediately dipped out like

Not his circus, not his monkeys.

Did they have to hide the kid from Nightmare. Did they just abort it immediately.

{ @what-have-i-unleashed }

[littlemoondarling]

A critical review of a Wendigoon video, pls read it all if you're interested and pls be civil♡♡

Uhm so we all know wendigoon right? Beloved horror youtuber, for good reasons too, his videos have such a comforting vibe that I rewatch them whenever I'm feeling depressed, but recently I got to thinking about a couple of things and they are making me.... slightly uncomfortable with his videos.

The first and biggest thing comes from this video which is about the game "Faith: the Unholy Trinity" which is a game about demons, possession, baby sacrifice, exorcism, etc. All told from a very Christian pov (as most media tends to be) which is no problem, the problems start when we delve a little deeper into the uncomfortable implications about the main possessed girl Amy and her story.

Tldr, she started volunteering at a what is clearly supposed to be an abortion or neonatal care clinic where a demonic cult uses it as a front to sacrifice babies for the evil causes... which idk if you can start picking up on the very concerning implications of that.

Now Wendigoon spoke with the creator of the game who explained that the (what I will call) corruption route that the mc goes through is to make it clear that someone doesn't just get possessed by demons, that they have to go out of their way to get to that point.

And we know that Amy was a good girl before she volunteered in the abortion clinic, which when u visit it (starts in the video at about 2 hours 12 mins) it is made clear immediately that it is not... great.

You first see a letter from the owner who tells the who I assume is the secretary to notify him before returning any calls from the health department because they don't want another "surprise inspection" (the owner is revealed to be a demon and a cult leader btw :))

When you walk further into the clinic, you are met with a disturbing and grotesque demon (which is usual for a horror game but please try to see how the underlying message is clear) where a cop (who is 100% a good guy and hasn't been indoctrinated into the cult) helps you int defeating it. There are also stretchers covered in the blood of the sacrificed corpses under them. It is also made clear that they are injecting the women who seek treatment there with a substance to make them hallucinate and so they don't wake up during the "procedure".

And if you want to get a secret ending, you have to go back and fight a demonic lady who unleashes demonic babies at you who look a whole lot like fetuses but that is just my opinion.

The whole game revolves around a demon cult leader who made an abortion clinic to use the 'babies' as sacrifices and to experiment on the women. If that isn't the most right-wing reactionary Christian pro-life talking points, idk what is.

The issue is that Wendigoon doesn't address the blatant demonising of neonatal care/abortion clinics and the disgusting pro-life implications that are baked deep into the game's DNA, he just keeps praising it and it's creator without batting an eye at any of this. And the comments don't even acknowledge it!

This isn't to cancel wendigoon or anything, I've just been thinking about this specific video for a while and I want to get my thoughts somewhere bc I personally didn't see much talk ab this.

[the-big-boss-of-hell]

Then go with it. Your health and sanity should come first

It also removes any possible leverage from unsavoury people

Alastor sat motionless for a while, the weight of his thoughts pressing heavily on his shoulders. He glanced at the baby sleeping peacefully in the bassinet beside him. His fingers tightened around the edge of his notepad before he slowly started to write.

Alastor: "I want to smile again."

Ozzie read the words and gave a gentle nod, his voice soft but filled with quiet encouragement.

Ozzie: That’s a good reason, Alastor. You deserve to feel like yourself again.

Alastor: continued to write* "I can’t let him win. Not after everything. I have my baby now. He needs me. I can’t take care of him if I’m not okay."

Ozzie: *reading the note, his tone supportive* You’re absolutely right, sugar. You’ve already been so strong for your little one, and choosing what’s best for both of you takes even more strength.

Alastor: *his hand hovered over the notepad before he added a final note* "I want to go through with it."

Ozzie: *smiling softly, his voice warm* Alright, sweetheart. I’ll make the arrangements. We’ll take care of this in a way that’s safe, private, and as easy on you as possible.

Alastor gave a small nod, his gaze dropping to the baby again. The tiny bundle in the bassinet squirmed slightly, letting out a soft noise before settling back into sleep. Alastor’s lips twitched, almost as if he were trying to smile, but the weight of his decision still hung heavily.

Ozzie: *standing up and placing a hand on Alastor’s shoulder, careful not to startle him* You’re doing the right thing for yourself, Alastor. For yourself and for your little one.

Alastor glanced up at Ozzie, his red eyes filled with gratitude and lingering fear. He nodded again, his grip on the notepad loosening as he set it aside.

Ozzie: *gently* I’ll be back soon with everything we need. In the meantime, just focus on your baby. You’re already doing such an incredible job.

As Ozzie left the room, Alastor leaned forward, resting his elbows on his knees as he looked down at the baby. For the first time in what felt like ages, he let out a long, shaky breath.

His baby stirred again, and Alastor reached out, lightly brushing his fingers against the soft red hair. The smallest flicker of warmth touched his expression—a faint hint of the smile he longed to feel again.

Alastor: (internally) ‘I think I have a name for you now. My little light’ (externally) L-lu…mi…eire…

[maternity-morningstar]

*quietly slides Lucifer an abortion clinic card* no one else needs to know. You have enough babies right now.

Lucifer: *eyes the card, swallowing hard as he takes it in his hand, staring at it for a moment in silence. He closes his eyes, his brow furrowed in thought, clearly conflicted. He takes a deep breath and opens his eyes, glancing at the card again.* It's not something I ever thought I’d consider... but I have to think about what’s best for everyone. I can't be selfish, not with all the little ones who already need me. *He feels a pang of guilt, thinking about the decision he faces. His heart feels heavy, and the idea of taking that step makes him feel even more overwhelmed. He knows he’s at his limit, and yet the thought of making that choice feels like an impossible burden. He sets the card aside, shaking his head slightly* I need to think about this... carefully. It's not a decision I can make lightly. No one else needs to know, not until I decide. It’s my body, my choice... but I need to be sure I can live with it either way.

[haystarlight]

Okay but I can't stop thinking about this

Obviously, back in Ancient Greece, there were no options like we have today. Sex resulting in a child was unpreventable. So the gods really couldn't do anything about the demigod children because goodness knows they're not gonna stop falling in love with mortals.

But things are different now and I wonder about how the invention of contraceptives and the facilitation/legalization of abortion (in some places, at least) would affect the gods.

(longer discussion under the "keep reading", content warning for talk of abortion, sex and how shitty some male gods are)

(Athena doesn't facture in because her method of making demigods is batshit, this is for the demigods that were made with sex) (and for The Big Three, more specifically)

Like I talked with my partner the other day and he says he thinks it's totally possible to abort a demigod fetus and I agreed with him. Because, even though they're stronger than normal humans, half-bloods can definitely die. So, if you were pregnant with a half-blood fetus, I think you *could* abort it like a normal human one.

HOWEVER

What would the god dad think about that. Would they be, like, offended that a mere mortal would have the gall to reject a gift from a god? would they try to punish the mortal for not wanting the demigod fetus? would they see it as "impertinent"?

Or would they be relieved like "oh nice! one less half-blood child to worry about!"?

I'm especially thinking about Zeus, Poseidon and Hades. Obviously. Because they're the ones that made a promise not to have more babies. The others made no such promises but, in their case, you'd think preventing the birth would be in their best interest, right? because you're helping them keep their promise? they should be happy, right?

But, then again, the gods are irrational a lot of the time.

Also, condoms.

Idk if god sperm would be stronger than human sperm. Like, maybe there's a chance the condom wouldn't work to stop it (they do sometimes fail, after all, "only 97% effective" and all that). But this is assuming condoms can stop even god sperm.

Again, you think The Big Three would be like "awesome! a way to keep my promise of no more kids and still have sex!" or would they be like those dude bros that don't like wearing condoms cause "they're too small for me!!!" (shut up they're not)

I'm thinking Zeus at least gives definitely the "I would never wear a condom how dare you" vibe.

Tbh, maybe the gods should try seeking out mortals that already have their tubes tied. That sounds like a plan.

Also for not-maiden goddesses like Aphrodite and Demeter, for example. You think they can just, you know, decide not to get pregnant? cause they're goddesses, maybe they can just do that? tho, since they don't have an oath that tells them not to, they probably don't care enough to decide to not get pregnant anyway?

Also, wild to think the kids whose godly parent is their mom get recognized as demigods from birth, that's crazy.

Also also, I think I remember one character in the books that's a child of Apollo with another man. Which it's cool for the queer representation but also HOW. Like... Rick, is Apollo mpreg canon in the books?! RICK?!

(I'm sure if you ask Rick all this, he just says "I write these books for kids, please leave me alone" but THE WORLD NEEDS TO KNOW)

(I'm pro choice, in case that wasn't totally clear. I'm not saying mortals should be punished for not wanting demigod kids (which is a fictional thing anyways). Of course not. I was just wondering what would the gods think of that)

[phantomeros]

milgram ocs

+ extra for the lucky father

credit for the idea of the first panel @ / charcoyours on twitter with their mob psycho meme i just kept Going after it

[weiner-does-preg]

I know you said you don’t like kids, but are you still curious about experiencing pregnancy?

This blog is about ocs

But I have no desire to ever become pregnant. Like i said it would probably ruin my life as I like being active, working out, running, being strong and masculine. And I have no doubt the hormonal changes would make me suicidal and reverse life saving side effects that testosterone helped me with. So if I wasn’t able to get an abortion or have a miscarriage and for some reason I ever got pregnant it would probably be over for my lifetime. The idea of a parasite growing inside of me is quite distressing and disgusting so yeah…

It would be awesome if my partner got pregnant but not me. This blog is about ocs

[tlozypaka-tina]

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[black-salt-cage]

"tiktok censorship has you kids by the testicles these days"

You proshippers would know a lot about kids and their genitals, wouldn't you?

hey antis here's the question of the day: tell me QUICKLY why you want proshippers to hurt children so bad. why do you want to sacrifice the innocence and safety of children to win your internet gotcha argument?

on a totally unrelated note, how's your buddy Kyle Carrozza doing?

[shapeshyft]

Is the fact that you didn't know Graydon wasn't a mutant the only reason you didn't abort him?

Baby Blue Canon Questions Research Segment! feat. anonymous!

Her extremities are cold. Even as her dermis shifts and cracks, layers and layers of skin cells being generated to keep frostbite from clinging to her, to keep it from clinging to the babe swaddled in her arms. They're already naturally blue, this 'natural hue' would have no purchase with them. An explosion behind them. The castle is on fire. She promised she'd be safe- No!

❝ F-five minutes. I'll be back before you know it. Sleep. Sleep. ❞

She's warm. Hot, even, judging by the way she shifted in her seat. Legs uncrossing, body sliding a touch into the depths of the chair, a bead of sweat pooling at the nape of her neck- and then being absorbed back into her flesh. No.

❝ If I'd known just what an annoyance that waste of nine months would've been, I'd have done away with him. Mutated or otherwise. That he lived to even see adolescence was a mistake on my part... a weakness I didn't know I was carrying at the time. ❞

Graydon wouldn't have been the first. He wouldn't have been the last. She was an old hand at emptying herself of life and love by that point... it- Fuck!

❝ It certainly wasn't any lingering sentimentality for time spent with Victor, if that's what this is meant to imply. I could've fed that animal the scraped remains of our child with a Negroni, and he'd have thanked me for the delicacy. ❞

[salsflore]

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[emberoops]

okay so i am doing some preliminary googling before i reach out to Professional, and there's a framework for personhood which breaks it down into multiple different categories, which i think is very helpful?

like, it talks about moral personhood - which isn't what most people mean, but includes both regular people and corporations - the capacity to behave in a moral or immoral way, and going along with that, the presumed obligation to behave in a moral way. i can think of some people who would object with this notion (goldwave, im looking at you mostly, although im sure there are others who would object also)

then theres metaphysical personhood, which is what most people are discussing, and the qualities that make someone a person in this way aren't pinned down; it's very hotly debated. there's a number of different schools of thought who all view this completely differently.

there's physical personhood, which is mostly not debated but is also viewed very differently by different schools of thought

and there's legal personhood, which is important to the novel, but not the question of it. like, it's integral to the setting, and probably i will have it so that legal personhood has been extended to artificial lifeforms, but that doesn't answer the question of what makes a person, really, because the type of personhood the book is about it more metaphysical.

anyways, this breakdown is really useful. i can automatically say that artificial life forms would be moral persons in this setting; they have ethical programming, surely. if you understand what is moral and immoral, you have to choose between them; you behave in either a moral or immoral fashion. having the capacity to understand these things, i think, is the bar - otherwise people who haven't studied enough philosophy to have a strong system of ethics could be argued to not be moral persons, and i disagree with that. (I don't think the argument would be sucessful, anyways.)

the article i read also breaks down some of the proposed qualities of metaphysical personhood, and this opens the door for a sort of metric through which personhood can be evaluated.

[the-big-boss-of-hell]

Al are you worried about it going like the last pregnancy or is it because of whom it's from?

Alastor stiffened at the question, his eyes widening slightly. He gripped the notepad in his hand tightly, his knuckles turning white. His expression wavered between shock and deep discomfort, the tension in his posture practically radiating.

He slowly lowered his gaze, shaking his head as if trying to push away the question entirely. With trembling hands, he started to write on the notepad.

When he turned the pad around, the words were stark and shaky:

Alastor: "Both."

Alastor hesitated, but he began to write again. This time, it took longer, the strokes of the pen slower, more deliberate.

Alastor: "Last time, I couldn’t protect them. What if I fail again? And this time... it’s theirs. It’s his. I can’t... I can’t look at it without seeing them."

[doomdoomofdoom]

I am only the tiniest bit disappointed that these people werent running for the chair to beat him over the head with it.

I think we should integrate that next time

[inkykeiji]

OMG sd!nat knocking up his sugar baby thoughts??

abortion!!!!! :)

gentle reminder that i’m not into talking about pregnancy or anything of that sort on my blog hehe <3