#youtube drama

[book--wyrm]

do i really need to explain what this is about.

[coffinwoodx]

like witnessing the french revolution beheadings firsthand in the 1800s

[skygemspeaks]

youtuber drama is really something else

what do you MEAN she responded to child grooming allegations by filming a ten minute long ukelele song in ONE TAKE?

[philsdrivinglicence]

Phapology hall of fame

- straight up calling YouTube "our majority stakeholders"

- "we are taking steps to review our process"

- the out of sync thank you at the end

- "we're sorry for the way we handled this, as well as for the way that we communicated it" - the fact phil was barely keeping it together for that line SENT me

[shoujoboy-restart]

[marcusbrutus]

It sucks how James Somerton was openly misogynistic for a number of years but no one really said anything until the hbomb video and plagiarism allegations. I’m glad hbomb brought it up because i feel like misogyny is very often overlooked in leftist spaces. I get the sense that misogyny isn’t viewed as that big of a deal compared to homophobia and racism because it doesn’t affect Real People (see: men). Hatred of women is not a joke and thousands of women are killed each year because of this hatred. Just because he’s gay doesn’t mean he gets a pass on his woman-hating.

[supergraphicultramoderngirl]

two ends of the white boy youtube spectrum: removing all of your free content to put it behind a paywall on another fucking subscription service (and then backpedaling because you read the room so fucking poorly) vs uploading your entire 2 hour comedy special for free when no one expected/demanded to be able to view it for free ever

[troythecatfish]

[siren-crown]

I've been thinking about the SSSniperwolf and Jacksfilms doxxing situation some more.

A lot of YouTubers who covered it said Jack went too far with how many videos he made parodying her content. Like?? That's the point. Sniperwolf does daily uploads of low effort reacts and Jack was copying that. Except he was showing how to make transformative reacts with things like Sniperwolf bingo. His channel JJJacksfilms is a direct parody of SSSniperwolf. Jack also never brought up Sniperwolf's past controversies or made things personal (Despite her being in an active lawsuit). He just focused critizing her reactions.

Also, SSSniperwolf was so dumb for escalating this to a crime. I don't even mean in the sense she was dumb for doing a crime, I mean in the sense she could have gotten out this react-gate pretty cleanly in the long run. These types of controversies have a life span for how long the public will support before they move on. If she just ignored Jack the momentum of his movement would eventually die out. She may take a few hits (apparently her views are going down) but she would not have been seriously effected in the long run. YouTube was probably never going to make big policy changes around react content. She could go back to doing her lazy reacts. Her doxxing Jack means this will follow her forever.

Now, I think the big reason why SSSniperwolf did escalate to doxxing is because Jacksfilms was effective. YouTube may not have been taking action, but small content creators were. In his recent videos more content creators were coming to him, asking him how to report their stolen content, and he walked them through it. Instead of letting her videos get claimed she edited the reported pieces out but this shortened her videos- making it so they don't qualify for ad revenue. I think this is what really got to her.

[sw1ft-sniff]

Since his first Cigarette to his first vape Proud to say I’ve been there for both Great job Tommy

THIS IS SATIRE

[we-crazy-feet-me]

To say that this aged like milk would be a missunderstatement.

[dasavvyexpert]

Are people really defending this run-of-the-mill anti-woke YouTuber just because Illymation wanted him reported for his reaction video to ‘Perks of Being the Fat Kid’??

[sapphiccyranodebergerac]

oh another youtuber who makes frat boy comedy has been accused of assaulting women in some way? how absolutely shocking.

[youcallyourselfafilmcritic]

Latest James Somerton Lore Drop:

[cherrytea556]

So, these exist

Even if Illy turns out to be shitty, I want you guys to know that TBYS is shitty too in different ways. If this gets more attention to the online public, I don't want anyone d riding TBYS like his fanbase does on a daily basis. Just because someone got done wrong doesn't make them a good person of all sudden, it's the online equivalent to a bad person dying and people saying they were a good person this whole time just because their dead.

[larsthefishoil]

As I'm actively reflecting on the new hbomberguy video, but more specifically James Somerton, certain things are clicking into place with resounding clarity.

I've watched Somerton's videos for years. At first I thought he was kinda overly dramatic, and had outdated stances on how little lgbtq+ was seen in modern day. He always seemed to talk like we are still living in the danger of the 80s with staight/cis people's apathy and hatred. In truth the phobias have just shifted in how they present and things have genuinely improved in a sense.

But the thing that is actually getting to me rn is the misogyny thing. I think he actually injected really shitty thoughts into my brain that I absorbed like a fucking kitchen sponge. He's protectiveness over queer people but specifically gay men from "prevented white women" actually got to me. For over a year, I was walking around occasionally thinking about how "women are sneaking BL manga into their bedrooms and grotesquely drooling."- im not citing someone theres quoteation marks cause its a dumb thought. But i thought this because that's how bad Somerton made it seem.

But the thing that got me out of that head space was this video by talistheintrovert.

https://youtube.com/@talistheintrovert?si=vmpEa_TPP2UE9eQk - here's the link to her homepage on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/08pCrSBw5EY?si=bECaT_xC16IfN5TI - vid about Good Omens

https://youtu.be/zzSlRZhS_qY?si=unQzSbCQUaTqhSbv - Heartstopper vs. Only Friends

sorry for the ugly link I'm on mobile.

I forget their pronouns so I'm using they/them but I might be wrong. I watched a lot of their videos all at once, so a lot of their ideas interlinked between videos to connect points. But they frequently talked about how straight and queer people interact with queer media and the complexities that unfold. Their underlying message was always that an individual's sexuality doesn't matter when interacting with media when it comes to gatekeeping who gets to appreciate queer content. Still most people consuming are queer people, but straight cis people also benefit and that's okay, it's great even.

Talistheintrovert shooed away icky feelings of straight women fetishizing queer men, which was a fear I got from James Somerton!

Idk this is a long post, but hbomberguy's ending soliloquy about trying to find happiness kinda reminds me of the many countless queer YouTube channels- big and small. Most of us aren't clawing for the position of top dog and like Somerton and seem a lot happier dispit of everything going on nowadays.

Anyways, stay safe, be accepting, and cite your sources or else hbomberguy will have to crawl out of whatever hole he hides in for the better part of each year and make a five hour long video about you :/