#Thomas Downes
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You won the fight already, surely that's enough?
#have a doodle#arthur morgan#thomas downes#rdr2#red dead redemption 2#red dead redemption#rdr#red dead redemption fanart
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Something I enjoy about Tumblr is that y'all make the kind of queer content that's so sadly lacking in RDR2. Today I'm beginning a three-part essay about gender (and sexuality) in the game. Here's Part I, discussing masculinity and how R* somehow manages to be homophobic about death (among other things). Also I say "penetration" a lot. Also:
How Arthur Morgan is more complicated than most people care to admit — especially where gender is concerned
Some extremely weird dialog that I don't analyze so much as say "would you look at this shit. What the shit is that"
No I did not have time to talk about John Wayne's real name being Marion but like who cares. People are so weird
#read dead analysis#red dead redemption 2#rdr2#red dead fandom#arthur morgan#bill williamson#micah bell#rdr2 arthur#thomas downes#lit crit#rdr2 bill#tilly jackson
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Vengeance is an idiot's game.
Looking at the Downes' for the second time is melancholic. The low, rumbling strings of despair that follow Arthur's debt collection, his constant yet accidental revisit of their family as their lives and his sickness progresses, it shows the different ways money is a pthsis for man.
But I got 2500 American dollars out of that mission so does it really matter?
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the tragedy of the downes
#fay draws#red dead redemption#rdr#rdr2#thomas downes#edith downes#archie downes#i love arthur as much as the next person but err i hate when ppl genuinely act like he did nothing wrong not in a meme way#like the whole point of the game is that he gets redemption for what he did#so to get redemption he had to do bad stuff#and what happened with thomas' death is the biggest thing he try to get redemption on imo#idk if im making myself clear or not im not good with words but the downes story like many stories in rdr make me sad#his last name is mispelled on the grave as its actually mispelled in the game 🤷♀️#it was just a quick drawing bc ive been thinking about the downes
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There's a thing I've been wondering about for a long time...
When you collect Thomas Downes' debt, Arthur will write about it in his journal. Not only that, he will accompany the entry with a drawing of a cauldron amid a forest.
When I first saw it I thought nothing of it, as I assumed maybe the drawing was referencing a random encounter I had earlier like the Witches Cauldron in Ambarino, given that it didn't tie in with anything about the mentioned mission.
But as time passed and I revisited the journal, I noticed that that assumption didn't make sense chronologically, at least for my gameplay experience. And then I searched on Youtube multiple videos that also aligned this drawing with Arthur's thoughts about Thomas Downes' debt collection, so now I'm certain that the cauldron drawing is directly correlated with that entry.
The thing is, Arthur is what I consider a pretty straightforward artist when it comes to drawing. He tries to replicate as faithfully as possible the animals, people, and landscapes he encounters on his journey. He doesn't characterize himself as being particularly abstract or metaphorical in his art.
That being said, and considering there was no presence of a cauldron or a forest like the ones depicted in his journal in Thomas Downes' debt collection, the thing I've been wondering for months and that I haven't been able to answer to this day is: Why a cauldron in the woods? What does it mean? What's the symbolism behind it? Why did Rockstar choose for Arthur to accompany the entry of one of the most important missions story-wise with that ambiguous imagery?
Please feel free to share your thoughts and theories
#maybe there's an obvious explanation and I'm just a dumbass#RDR2#Money Lending and Other Sins#Thomas Downes#Leopold Strauss#Arthur Morgan
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— 𝘬𝘯𝘰𝘸𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘸𝘢𝘳𝘯𝘦𝘥 𝘮𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘦 𝘪’𝘥 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘱𝘢𝘺
#:)#:))))))#arthur morgan#arthur morgan edit#rdr2#red dead redemption 2#rdr2edit#rdr#mine#long long time#linda ronstadt#archie downes#edith downes#thomas downes#emma my horse 🥹#isaac morgan#i guess i should tag him!#just cuz we don’t know eliza’s last name#there were times i had to put this down because i started bawling#and#i know i laugh maniacally at people’s pain watching my sad edits#but i had to watch this repeatedly 💀
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ive been avoiding doing the mission where you have to beat up mr downes because of tb reasons,,,, ive been perfectly content galloping around,, coming back to my roots (hunting & gathering) WITHOUT some sickness incubating inside of me. its been real nice....
anyway mary sent her first letter & now the game is FORCING me to go talk to downes........ i cant do any mission OTHER THAN THIS ONE. i cant even interact with objects or change my outfit. i have to beat someone up in this fruity ass baby pink button up. i look like a pansy......... im not just a fruit IM THE WHOLE BASKET
for fucks sake let me live TB LESS please!!!!!!! i want to go SHOPPING for SLUTTY CLOTHES!! I WANT TO HUNT FOR PELTS TO UPGRADE MY CAMP FOR MY BROTHERS & SISTERS!!!!!!!! LET ME LIVE IN PEACE!!!!!
#SIGH#head in hands#rd#rdr2#red dead#red dead two#red dead redemtion 2#red dead arthur#red dead redemption arthur#red dead redemption 2#red dead redemption#red dead redemption two#arthur morgan#thomas downes#rdr2 arthur#arthur rdr2#trbotunnels trbomouth#rdr2 spoilers
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going to collect the debt from thomas downes
#it being tuberculosis#arthur morgan#red dead redemption#rdr2#rdr2 fandom#red dead redemption 2#red dead fandom#rdr2 memes#thomas downes#edith downes#ethelposting
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If you ever feel safe remember
I'm out there
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🌄✨ Unravel the poignant narrative of Thomas Downes from Red Dead Redemption 2! This minor character plays a pivotal role, linking themes of morality, struggle, and consequence in the game. Join us as we analyze his background, his tragic fate, and how it impacts Arthur Morgan.
#Red Dead Redemption 2#Thomas Downes#Video Game Characters#Wild West Stories#Arthur Morgan#Game Narrative#Character Analysis#Moral Dilemmas#Video Game Storytelling#RDR2 Analysis#Horseshoe Overlook#Beaver Hollow#Gaming Community#Character Development#Video Game Lore#Epic Gaming#Rockstar Games#Narrative Themes#Family Struggle#Lifes Consequences#RDR2 Characters#Gamer Reflections#Gamer Insights#Video Game Fans#Gaming History#Wild West Gaming#Character Journey#Life And Death#Emotional Gaming#Fictional Tragedy
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Superman: I haven’t seen you at the watchtower for a while. Where have you been the last few weeks, Batman?
Bruce: Rehab.
Superman, worriedly: Oh, I’m so sorry- I never knew you struggled with that. If you don’t mind me asking, what for?
Bruce, grimacing as he watches public footage of Signal and Red Hood starting a dumpster fire out of Pro-Joker merch: ..adoption.
#‘bruce wayne is a bad dad’ ‘bruce wayne is a good parent!!’ NO. Bruce Wayne is a wine mom#he has tacky 2000’s beige signs around the house that his kids beg him to take down#wine. sleep. vigilante. repeat!!#jason steals them and puts them in Tim’s CEO office#batman#batfam#bruce wayne#jason todd#dick grayson#superman#clark kent#justice league#batman and robin#robin#incorrect batman quotes#incorrect batfamily quotes#I AM SO EXCITED FOR THE DYNAMIC DUO MOVIE#duke thomas#signal#signal dc#red hood#batkids#hes proud but can’t condone this or else it’ll turn into Duke and Jason burning down entire warehouses next#rehab was Alfred making him sit through lectures on communication
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A fanfic idea:
Bruce was able to rescue Jason before he died, and after this experience, Jason stopped being Robin.
He became afterwards the golden child, he goes to college (with a scholarship), helps out in the city library, teaches children (helps with their homeworks and helps them to study), works part time in a car garage in crime alley, and is a supportive brother.
And it pisses his siblings off.
Because there has to be something fishy because no one, really no one, is that perfect.
And there is something fishy.
He is also Red Hood.
No one knows, and the vigilantes never talk to Jason about "the family business" because he needs to concentrate on his studies and other stuff.
So imagine, Batmans suprise when the JL was able to catch Red Hood.
Someone takes Jasons helmet off in front of Batman, Nightwing, and other members
And Jason, who wears also a domino mask, doesn't look Batman in the face even as he says :
"Hey Dad. I can explain."
And Dick loses his shit, he laughs so hard because, Jason, The golden child, the one who gave up on being a vigilante, who reads to children in the library, is a goddamn crimelord.
Bruce just stands there frozen because wtf Jason?!
And Dick takes selfies with Jason being tied up and calles the other Batkids in because they should definitely not be left out of it.
(Edit: As someone who doesn't really write (or can write good stories), I want to say, feel free to use this prompt for a fanfiction. Just please give credits to me (because I don't know if someone else had also this idea and posted it) and please inform me if you publish something (because I want to read a fanfiction like this too))
#jason todd#batfam#comic#dc universe#dick grayson#bruce wayne#justice league#tim drake#damian wayne#cassandra cain#duke thomas#dc#dcu#dc comics#fanfiction idea#ao3 being down is fr an apocalypse#hope yall are safe
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As a reward for helping with a problem, John Constantine wants to give Bruce a chance to talk to his parents. “I can only do one at a time, thought, so, who’s first?”
Bruce sweats, “That won’t be necessary.”
The batkids watch like ??? they’ve seen Bruce in every state a man could succumb and raise, but they’ve never seen him scared. Alfred calmly steps forward, “Please do.”
“No. Don’t.”
John “I don’t want peace, I want trouble, always” Constantine smells some opportunity for chaos and grabs it.
The result of that is the very angry spirit of Thomas Wayne fixing Bruce with the glare of the year, “You dropped oUT OF MED SCHOOL?!” The entire mansion seems to tremble.
Bruce yelps like a scolded cat and runs around the dining table, “I was busy with BATMAN—“
“ Che cazzo è un Batman, — Get back here! You were there a year, — Che cazzo fai, CHE CAZZO FAI?! Pack your bags, you’re going back.”
To the batkids’ absolute horror Bruce starts to cry, face watery and bright, and they finally understand what Alfred meant by tantrums. “Non voglio tornare indietro, papà!”
“Non mi interessa, cazzo, — wait till your mother hears about this, Harley graduated with HONORS. What exemple are you giving to my grandkids? Don’t — Don’t run, GET BACK HERE!”
Tim sweats in high school dropout, Dick sweats in cop, Jason sweats in drug lord, Damian sweats in art kid, and Stephanie just sweats in general.
“Should, uh… Should we help?”
“Are you kidding? I haven’t seen Jason this happy since the Queen died.”
#I love Bruce getting scolded actually it’s cute#bruce wayne#thomas wayne#john constantine#John and Alfred drink tea and watch this go down with pleased smiles. this is possibly the happiest day of Alfred’s immortal life#batkids#batfamily#batman#dc comics#text#text post#batfam#battinson
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mr thomas downes 😔
#fay draws#red dead redemption#rdr2#thomas downes#im back somewhat#trying to get back into art#anyways the downes 😔 what a tragic one#i feel like some ppl are so quick to forget that arthur was quite the asshole during the beginning of the game#thomas make me sad he seemed like such a nice man#and when you think about the fact he stopped arthur from beating that man to death at the bar#but he wasn’t able to stop arthur from killing him#something something symbolism im not good with words
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watching Arthur's handwriting get messier as time goes on hurts me more than anything.
usual handwriting
and then towards the end of chapter 6...
never fails to make my heart shatter
#rdr2#red dead redemption 2#arthur morgan#if only he never beat thomas downes#credits to u/Lafayette307 on reddit for the screenshots!!!
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